[CrackMonkey] Lindsey Graham
Mike Goldman
whig at debian.org
Wed Feb 23 13:27:52 PST 2000
Rick Moen wrote:
> > Consent for the PROCESS, certainly. Look, nobody is FORCING people to
> > vote. So if you do it, you have willingly accepted the rules.
>
> The word "so", in the above, seems to imply causation. Yet, it's
> non-obvious how your conclusion follows from your premises.
It's nearly tautological. Voluntary participation :: acceptance.
Non-acceptance :: rejection.
> You may have intended to express your ending sentence as a personal
> opinion, but it's framed in the form of a logical deduction.
De gustibus non disputandum. I'm not expressing an opinion, but a conclusion.
> > It's like, when someone offers you a deal, and you accept the
> > benefits, you acquire the obligation.
>
> Supplementing that unsupported assertion with an analogy doesn't help
> much.
Not actually an analogy, but a translation into plain language.
> > You CAN complain, no matter what, but whether you have proper STANDING to
> > complain depends again on what you are complaining about.
>
> "Standing" is an undefined term, in this context. (It has a defined
> meaning in legal contexts.)
Standing: To adhere to fixed principles; to maintain moral
rectitude; to keep from falling into error or vice.
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