From sneakums at zork.net Thu Feb 1 00:38:55 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] !Repair (Was: [Pigdog] Soliciting, yet again, for laptop recommendations, offers, suggestions) In-Reply-To: "George J.P. Perry"'s message of "Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:26:10 -0800 (PST)" References: Message-ID: <6u66iuu7a8.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "GP" == George J P Perry writes: GP> EZ2Fix... that's the charm against Fear of Breakdown. ?Send GP> in the clones, a laptop of clones. GP> 128+MB, 12+GB, 800+MHz, mp3, 14+", nic... reliable, GP> ez2fix... linux. Laptops are sometimes easy to fix, but if they're out of warranty (or if you dropped it and broke the screen) it will be expensive. Example: a motherboard for most types of Compaq laptop will set you back a grand or so. On the subject of screens breaking, it's not unknown for them to break spontaneously, but you will have the devil's own time convincing the manufacturer that you're not a bumble-fingered clod unwilling to take responsibility for your actions. C'est la vie, mon ami. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Thu Feb 1 00:41:09 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:25:41 -0800" References: <20010131232540.Q7728@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u1ytiu76i.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> They give up easy lately. Too easy. It must be a trick. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Feb 1 13:16:01 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <6u1ytiu76i.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: On 1 Feb 2001, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: > > NM> They give up easy lately. > > Too easy. It must be a trick. > get an axe. -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." -- Ben Franklin From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:42:34 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work Message-ID: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> http://salon.com/people/feature/2001/01/31/marijuana/print.html Any commentary from the Juggler? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:53:22 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201155322.C26483@zork.net> Waves of gar coming. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- evilbastard@necronomicon.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:53:43 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201155343.D26483@zork.net> It's hard to care any more. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- alisdair@nmia.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:54:16 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201155416.E26483@zork.net> Goddamn monthly mailman reminders. WIthout them, these twits would be stuck here for good. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- naru@shayolghul.org has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:54:34 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201155434.F26483@zork.net> Mmm, yeah, okay. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- matchstick@eidosnet.co.uk has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:54:54 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201155454.G26483@zork.net> Prepare to be cut. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- bitch@evilgenius.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 15:55:35 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201155535.H26483@zork.net> Look. There's two kinds of people here: Those on The List, and Australians. Now WHICH CATEGORY do you think you are in? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- benw@webmedia.com.au has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From jdub at aphid.net Thu Feb 1 16:05:58 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010201155535.H26483@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:55:35PM -0800 References: <20010201155535.H26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202110558.C24098@scooter.s1.nxt> > Look. There's two kinds of people here: Those on The List, > and Australians. Now WHICH CATEGORY do you think you are in? How about the 'If I have a .net email address, Nick will never know what hit him' category? - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- "GIMP is the primary tool in my graphics work. It is my gcc and Emacs." - Tuomas Kuosmanen (tigert) From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 22:17:21 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201221721.I26483@zork.net> What, is that supposed to be Italian or something? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- alex@pennace.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 1 22:18:25 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010201221825.J26483@zork.net> Tristero ain't coming, numbskull. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- napier@waste.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Feb 1 22:46:17 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010201221825.J26483@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 10:18:25PM -0800 References: <20010201221825.J26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010201224617.T672@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > Tristero ain't coming, numbskull. Shhhhhhhhhhh! -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 00:38:47 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:54:16 -0800" References: <20010201155416.E26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u3ddxscmg.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> Goddamn monthly mailman reminders. WIthout them, these twits NM> would be stuck here for good. Dude, that sounds like an argument for turning them off. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From joey at kitenet.net Fri Feb 2 00:43:09 2001 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <6u3ddxscmg.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:38:47AM +0000 References: <20010201155416.E26483@zork.net> <6u3ddxscmg.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202004309.G399@kitenet.net> Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: > > NM> Goddamn monthly mailman reminders. WIthout them, these twits > NM> would be stuck here for good. > > Dude, that sounds like an argument for turning them off. http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailman-haters -- see shy jo From jason at sopko.net Fri Feb 2 04:18:00 2001 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> Message-ID: Why don't they just decriminalize marijuana rather than going the 'You need a doctor's excuse' route? That sounds like something you had to do when you didn't want to take gym class. The government needs to get the fuck out of my life. http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/newsrelease/nov82000.htm ///Jason #!/usr/bin/perl @a=(Lbzjoftt,Inqbujfodf,Hvcsjt); $b="Lbssz Wbmm" ;$b =~ y/b-z/a-z/ ; $c =" Tif ". @a ." hsfbu wj" ."suvft pg b qsphsbnnfs". ":\n";$c =~y/b-y/a-z/; print"\n\n$c ";for($i=0;$i<@a; $i++) { $a[$i] =~ y/b-y/a-z/;if($a[$i]eq$a[-1]){print"and $a[$i]." ;}else{ print"$a[$i], ";}}print"\n\t\t--$b\n\n"; On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://salon.com/people/feature/2001/01/31/marijuana/print.html > > Any commentary from the Juggler? From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 03:48:56 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: ; from jason@sopko.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:18:00AM -0500 References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:18:00AM -0500, Jason Sopko wrote: > Why don't they just decriminalize marijuana rather than going the 'You > need a doctor's excuse' route? That sounds like something you had to do > when you didn't want to take gym class. The government needs to get the > fuck out of my life. > > http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/newsrelease/nov82000.htm Oh, wah, wah, wah. Ickle Federal Gowernment making the bwave wibertawian cwoss wiv its nasty pwisons and wegawwy mandated use of fworce and its thwort powice fwort poriwce fwowt pwowees fwowrt mind control officers? The faster you lot quit your girlyman whining, your bumfluff moustache-growing and your goddamn "considerations for the list", and actually get out there and start shooting up, the better. Guns or crank, I don't care. Just get the fuck out of my life AND/OR MY GOVERNMENT'S MAILING LIST. Fraternally yours, d. From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 04:03:24 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 03:48:56 -0800" References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> Message-ID: <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> The faster you lot quit your girlyman whining, your bumfluff DOB> moustache-growing and your goddamn "considerations for the DOB> list", and actually get out there and start shooting up, the DOB> better. Guns or crank, I don't care. That's rich, coming from someone whose recent article about CPRM was nothing if not "girlyman whining". Piss off. http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/01/28/stidordor03029.html DOB> Just get the fuck out of my life AND/OR MY GOVERNMENT'S DOB> MAILING LIST. Can we expect to see an article regarding this subject in next qeek's "Doors"? Oh Danny boy, the trolls, the trolls are trolling... -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 04:55:31 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:03:24PM +0000 References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:03:24PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: > > DOB> The faster you lot quit your girlyman whining, your bumfluff > DOB> moustache-growing and your goddamn "considerations for the > DOB> list", and actually get out there and start shooting up, the > DOB> better. Guns or crank, I don't care. > > That's rich, coming from someone whose recent article about CPRM was > nothing if not "girlyman whining". Piss off. > Well, I don't see you and your #windowsnt buddies slaughtering the children of MPAA officials to get them to adopt a compromise position. (They edit those bits out: all caps don't kern well, they said. Kept the picture though.) > DOB> Just get the fuck out of my life AND/OR MY GOVERNMENT'S > DOB> MAILING LIST. > > Can we expect to see an article regarding this subject in next qeek's > "Doors"? ?? I did the crackmonkey column last month. Did you not read your quote in it? > Oh Danny boy, the trolls, the trolls are trolling... > Five minutes with an irishman, and this always happens. Will you not do "The Rose of Tralee" next, and delight us all? d. From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 05:36:15 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 04:55:31 -0800" References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> Message-ID: <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:03:24PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: >> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> Well, I don't see you and your #windowsnt buddies DOB> slaughtering the children of MPAA officials to get them to DOB> adopt a compromise position. (They edit those bits out: all DOB> caps don't kern well, they said. Kept the picture though.) You've lost me here, senor. #windowsnt? Caps? Picture? DOB> I did the crackmonkey column last month. Did you not read DOB> your quote in it? I missed that one. Got an URL? >> Oh Danny boy, the trolls, the trolls are trolling... DOB> Five minutes with an irishman, and this always happens. Will DOB> you not do "The Rose of Tralee" next, and delight us all? Do I look like Finbarr Wright? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 07:02:11 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:36:15PM +0000 References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:36:15PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: > > DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:03:24PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: > > DOB> Well, I don't see you and your #windowsnt buddies > DOB> slaughtering the children of MPAA officials to get them to > DOB> adopt a compromise position. (They edit those bits out: all > DOB> caps don't kern well, they said. Kept the picture though.) > > You've lost me here, senor. #windowsnt? Caps? Picture? #windowsnt -> http://www.sopko.net/resume.html Caps -> Look down. Now to your left. Just before "Lock". Good. Picture -> Go to your outtray. Click on your last sent mail. Cut and paste the URL you gave there into your browser. Look. Goooood. > > DOB> I did the crackmonkey column last month. Did you not read > DOB> your quote in it? > > I missed that one. Got an URL? > http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/p/plonk.html > >> Oh Danny boy, the trolls, the trolls are trolling... You want to know something that's *actually* funny? Not funny like we're being here, you and I, with our funny words and aching laughter. Stark, objective, "peculiar" funny. Roger David Carasso - finest troll on the Internet circa 1989, FOUNDER OF THE INTERNET and inventor of the phrase "I see a great need", the person who perfected posting to country and western fan groups with the koan "YOU'RE ALL HICKS" (and setting Followups to misc.test), a man who was thrown off over ten Internet accounts for his ability to set USENET on fire - is now the Senior Scientist behind the question-answering mechanism at http://www.askjeeves.com/ Please don't ask me to explain this as well. You'll be able to Read The Fscking Manual to all of this in Heaven, I hope. > DOB> you not do "The Rose of Tralee" next, and delight us all? > > Do I look like Finbarr Wright? > Enough partisan hatred. Bring on the URLs! Q. English, Irish, San Franciscans, Apache Developers: what do we all love? A. French dance music remixes of the RMS song, naturellement! http://tompox.free.fr/ziq/FreeSoftware.html d. i was joking about the enough partisan hatred. From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 07:29:08 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:10 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:02:11 -0800" References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> Message-ID: <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:36:15PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: >> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:03:24PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: >> >> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> Well, I don't see you and your #windowsnt buddies DOB> slaughtering the children of MPAA officials to get them to DOB> adopt a compromise position. (They edit those bits out: all DOB> caps don't kern well, they said. Kept the picture though.) >> You've lost me here, senor. #windowsnt? Caps? Picture? DOB> #windowsnt -> http://www.sopko.net/resume.html That's not my resume, nor my Web-page. Who do you think I am? DOB> Caps -> Look down. Now to your left. Just before "Lock". Good. It *says* Caps Lock, but it's actually Control. DOB> Picture -> Go to your outtray. Click on your last sent mail. My *what*? *Click*? Dude, I am not mailing from a Winders box. I do have a group here called "sent". Perhaps you refer to that? DOB> Cut and paste the URL you gave there into your browser. DOB> Look. Goooood. Huk huk huk. DOB> I did the crackmonkey column last month. Did you not read DOB> your quote in it? >> I missed that one. Got an URL? DOB> http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/p/plonk.html I might have known you wouldn't have the balls to publish an article laden with Crackmonkey quotes in a national newspaper. Oh well. Call a bluffer's bluff, you'll always be disappointed. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 2 07:56:36 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010202075636.M26483@zork.net> Goddamn monthly mailman reminders. We need to SPAM CANADIA RAGGED. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- eanderso@ucalgary.ca has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 08:16:37 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:29:08PM +0000 References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:29:08PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > That's not my resume, nor my Web-page. Who do you think I am? > > It *says* Caps Lock, but it's actually Control. > > My *what*? *Click*? Dude, I am not mailing from a Winders box. I do > have a group here called "sent". Perhaps you refer to that? > > Huk huk huk. > > I might have known you wouldn't have the balls to publish an article > laden with Crackmonkey quotes in a national newspaper. Oh well. > > Call a bluffer's bluff, you'll always be disappointed. > I've run this reply through gzip, and it compresses to 1 byte. And when I check, it's the OS field, and it says you wrote it on Atari TOS. Still with me? Any questions yet? And while we wait for the next shift of painfully contrived abuse, here is some light music, courtesy of KPMG. http://www.consultants-conference.de/media/kpmgsong.mp3 From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 10:34:54 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:16:37 -0800" References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> Message-ID: <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> Still with me? Any questions yet? Your redundant Reply-To field intrigues me. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 11:31:59 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:00:08PM +0000 References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:00:08PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > > Why are you so fond of my inbox all of a sudden? > Oh, I'm sorry. Let's step outside again, shall we? > >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: > > DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 06:34:54PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >> Your redundant Reply-To field intrigues me. > DOB> And I like the superfluousness of your User-Agent comment > DOB> field. > > Oh, and yours isn't for what reason, precisely? > As anyone who stopped asking questions long enough to think might uncover, *my* mailreader doesn't reiterate exactly the same version details in the comment field as it did in the former product-version token. User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 ^^useful^^ It's this sense of needless waste among Emacs users that has directly lead to the present ecological nightmare. At least I can say that Reply-To was down to simply not caring. I do believe you LISP people actually enjoy watching coastal ports being drowned to feed your bloated Harkonnen-like appetites. d. > >From the Gnus manual: > > > *Son-of-RFC 1036* > > We do have some breaches to this one. > > > > _X-Newsreader_ > > _User-Agent_ > > > > These are considered to be "vanity headers", while I consider them > > to be consumer information. After seeing so many badly formatted > > articles coming from `tin' and `Netscape' I know not to use either > > of those for posting articles. I would not have known that if it > > wasn't for the `X-Newsreader' header. > > I agree with Lars' reasoning on this one. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 2 11:41:53 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> Message-ID: <87lmrox472.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "DO" == Danny O'Brien writes: DO> [...] your bumfluff moustache-growing [...] OK, if I didn't love you before, Danny, this phrase makes me officially head over heels. Beaujolais to bumfluff moustache growing! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 11:43:56 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:31:59 -0800" References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> Message-ID: <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:00:08PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: >> Why are you so fond of my inbox all of a sudden? DOB> Oh, I'm sorry. Let's step outside again, shall we? Dude, if I closed the door right now, you'd be cleft in twain. DOB> As anyone who stopped asking questions long enough to think DOB> might uncover, *my* mailreader doesn't reiterate exactly the DOB> same version details in the comment field as it did in the DOB> former product-version token. DOB> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 DOB> ^^useful^^ As you cannot fail to see, they are different. In beta versions, they are very different. DOB> It's this sense of needless waste among Emacs users that has DOB> directly lead to the present ecological nightmare. At least I DOB> can say that Reply-To was down to simply not caring. I do DOB> believe you LISP people actually enjoy watching coastal ports DOB> being drowned to feed your bloated Harkonnen-like appetites. Invalid argument. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From yosemite at dasbistro.com Fri Feb 2 11:46:37 2001 From: yosemite at dasbistro.com (Yosemite Sam) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <87lmrox472.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:41:53AM -0800 References: <20010201154234.B26483@zork.net> <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <87lmrox472.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010202114637.D20418@aztech-cs.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:41:53AM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > >>>>> "DO" == Danny O'Brien writes: > > DO> [...] your bumfluff moustache-growing [...] > > OK, if I didn't love you before, Danny, this phrase makes me > officially head over heels. > > Beaujolais to bumfluff moustache growing! > What about bumfluff mustache and beard growing? -- __ ( ) "Yosemite" Sam |HB J,o yosemite@dasbistro.com |SRB \| Histogram Valley, Nevada |DD From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 2 11:48:10 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> Dude, if I closed the door right now, you'd be cleft in twain. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think it's been REPEATEDLY STATED that there's a NO GAELIC rule on crackmonkey. Talk like a white man for once, you poteen-drinking bastardo! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 11:59:47 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Mr. Bad's message of "02 Feb 2001 11:48:10 -0800" References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6uhf2conyk.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MB" == Bad writes: >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> Dude, if I closed the door right now, you'd be cleft in twain. MB> I think it's been REPEATEDLY STATED that there's a NO GAELIC MB> rule on crackmonkey. Talk like a white man for once, you MB> poteen-drinking bastardo! I'm not so lame that I'll just pipe the output of a couple of dict commands into this buffer and C-c C-c it, but all of those words are ENGLISH. Is mise le meas, An Eireannach gan athair. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 11:59:35 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:43:56PM +0000 References: <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010202115935.A26667@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:43:56PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "DOB" == Danny O'Brien writes: > > DOB> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 07:00:08PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >> Why are you so fond of my inbox all of a sudden? > DOB> Oh, I'm sorry. Let's step outside again, shall we? > > Dude, if I closed the door right now, you'd be cleft in twain. Unfortunate clash of dialects, but I digress. > > DOB> As anyone who stopped asking questions long enough to think > DOB> might uncover, *my* mailreader doesn't reiterate exactly the > DOB> same version details in the comment field as it did in the > DOB> former product-version token. > > DOB> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 > DOB> ^^useful^^ > > As you cannot fail to see, they are different. In beta versions, they > are very different. > Yes, they are very different, aren't they? The second is the ingenious, human-readable form, many fathoms separate from the pure machine-perceived noumenon of Gnus/5.0803? Thank goodness I did not dare sup from *its* undiluted nature. Perhaps I would think it only 84.67166% of version 6. Or perhaps my head might just explode from having to cram such unleavened digital data into my carbon-based mind? Also, after beta versions, it is traditional to remove bugs. > DOB> It's this sense of needless waste among Emacs users that has > DOB> directly lead to the present ecological nightmare. At least I > DOB> can say that Reply-To was down to simply not caring. I do > DOB> believe you LISP people actually enjoy watching coastal ports > DOB> being drowned to feed your bloated Harkonnen-like appetites. > > Invalid argument. I don't see any invalids here, apart from the crippled stumps of discourse your torso weakly waves in my direction as I do the happy troll dance. With your mother. Who is naked. Talking of which, more music. Here's the UK dance remix of that German KPMG track. http://www.phrenetic.org/mp3/kpmg_jungle.mp3 Back after this word from our sponsors. d. I am naked too. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Fri Feb 2 12:12:47 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: On 2 Feb 2001, Mr. Bad wrote: > crackmonkey. Talk like a white man for once, you poteen-drinking > bastardo! > If you go to Beverages & More, you can buy "Bunratty" poteen that has an ominous looking "FOR EXPORT ONLY" stamp on it, to make it look harmful and deadly or something. I bought a bottle of it, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It has a good neutral grain spirit taste. Very clean. I paired it with some rare Brazilian butterfly that I found in my hamburger. I wish when I visited Bunratty castle when I was 17 they had given me poteen instead of that disgusting mead. -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." -- Ben Franklin From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 12:16:35 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Don Qi's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:12:47 -0800 (PST)" References: Message-ID: <6ubsskon6k.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DQ" == Don Qi writes: DQ> If you go to Beverages & More, you can buy "Bunratty" poteen DQ> that has an ominous looking "FOR EXPORT ONLY" stamp on it, to DQ> make it look harmful and deadly or something. I bought a DQ> bottle of it, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. That's no more poteen that vodka is. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Fri Feb 2 12:20:21 2001 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6uhf2conyk.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uhf2conyk.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <873ddwx2ey.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> I'm not so lame that I'll just pipe the output of a couple of IB> dict commands into this buffer and C-c C-c it, but all of IB> those words are ENGLISH. IB> Is mise le meas, IB> An Eireannach gan athair. Translation: "I have ingested too many LFPs, And soon I will die of literalism." ~LDJ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ Today is the car of the cdr of your life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Fri Feb 2 12:21:36 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6ubsskon6k.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: On 2 Feb 2001, Irish Bastard wrote: > That's no more poteen that vodka is. > Yeah, I bet in Ireland they've got "Hillbilly Moonshine" labeled "For Export Only" -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." -- Ben Franklin From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 12:22:01 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: The Lumberjack DJ's message of "02 Feb 2001 12:20:21 -0800" References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uhf2conyk.fsf@zork.zork.net> <873ddwx2ey.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6u66isomxi.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "LDJ" == The Lumberjack DJ writes: >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> Is mise le meas, IB> An Eireannach gan athair. LDJ> Translation: "I have ingested too many LFPs, LDJ> And soon I will die of literalism." Wrong. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 12:22:38 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: Don Qi's message of "Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:21:36 -0800 (PST)" References: Message-ID: <6u1ytgomwh.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "DQ" == Don Qi writes: DQ> On 2 Feb 2001, Irish Bastard wrote: >> That's no more poteen that vodka is. DQ> Yeah, I bet in Ireland they've got "Hillbilly Moonshine" DQ> labeled "For Export Only" Nope. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Fri Feb 2 12:24:20 2001 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: <6u66isomxi.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uhf2conyk.fsf@zork.zork.net> <873ddwx2ey.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u66isomxi.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <87y9vovnnv.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> Is mise le meas, An Eireannach gan athair. LDJ> Translation: "I have ingested too many LFPs, And soon I will LDJ> die of literalism." IB> Wrong. Hmmm, must be OLD HIGH GAELIC, not DEEP FRIED GAELIC as I had supposed. Oh, wait, here it is! "I have been trolled, I have lost, I will now have a nice day." Is that it? ~LDJ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ Today is the car of the cdr of your life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 2 12:26:40 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: The Lumberjack DJ's message of "02 Feb 2001 12:24:20 -0800" References: <20010202034856.D5290@spesh.com> <6uu26dpa0j.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202045530.A7415@spesh.com> <6upuh1p5ps.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202070211.A7878@spesh.com> <6ulmrpp0hn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202081637.B9326@spesh.com> <6uhf2dorw1.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202104710.B26086@spesh.com> <6u8znoq5af.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010202113159.A26447@spesh.com> <6ur91goooz.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uhf2conyk.fsf@zork.zork.net> <873ddwx2ey.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u66isomxi.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87y9vovnnv.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6uwvb8n85b.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "LDJ" == The Lumberjack DJ writes: LDJ> Oh, wait, here it is! "I have been trolled, I have lost, I LDJ> will now have a nice day." Is that it? Sure, why not? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From danny at spesh.com Fri Feb 2 12:37:12 2001 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] God's work In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:12:47PM -0800 References: <87d7d0x3wl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010202123712.B26667@spesh.com> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:12:47PM -0800, Don Qi wrote: > On 2 Feb 2001, Mr. Bad wrote: > > > crackmonkey. Talk like a white man for once, you poteen-drinking > > bastardo! > > > If you go to Beverages & More, you can buy "Bunratty" poteen that has an > ominous looking "FOR EXPORT ONLY" stamp on it, to make it look harmful and > deadly or something. I bought a bottle of it, and I enjoyed it quite a > bit. It has a good neutral grain spirit taste. Very clean. I paired it > with some rare Brazilian butterfly that I found in my hamburger. Beverages and More also sell Pimms, which, like many disgusting British liquids that I left behind me, namely tea and Sodastream Cola Concentrate, I now crave on a regular basis. Sodastream is a a DIY drink carbonation system which was a popular child's plaything in dentally carefree Britain, but according to google only exists now as a first stage CO2 booster for amateur rocketry, and a hit beat combo. Its main advantage was complete customisation of the amount of CO2 and/or concentrate you included in your soft drink. Important life lessons learnt included that sufficiently fizzy drinks can boil away your tongue, and that there's a reason it's called concentrate. Oh, wait, hold on. What's this? Ah yes,I have you now... http://www.vinotheque.net/sodastre.htm Excellent, I shall order one, and we shall try and make fizzy milk as I did when the world was young. Or Pimms, whatever, I'm an adult now. This was supposed to be a story about me and the Webvan guy planning a vast Pimms smuggling empire. But that was before the bubble burst. d. "Locations for refilling include your SodaStream dealer, fire stations, industrial gas suppliers, fire extinguisher repair facilities, and welding supply places." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 2 13:38:06 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] DeCSS Saves Crackmonkey Message-ID: <87ae844vgh.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Haha! ---8<--- From: Wendy Piggsflye To: "Mr. Bad" , Diox List Subject: Re(2): And just whose eigenface do you resemble? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:14:25 -0800 On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:26:41 -0800 Mr. enunciated: > >That's so great! Have you ever heard of the Security Camera Players? > > http://www.pigdog.org/auto/ArtFux/link/1806.html > >They roX0r! > >~Mr. Bad > >-- Dear Mr. Bad (if that's your REAL name), Yesterday a network weenie came up to the weasel lair and said we Mac people always got off easy. I grinned as he was saying that he had just blocked a site where another of his network weenie friends had said that window users would do serious damage to their machines, just by visiting. I mentioned that I had never heard such a feat was yet possible. He said that visiting: http://crackmonkey.org "forces the vfat.vxd to drop out of memory." Well being bored since I had cleaned out all the workorders in my queue the week before - and wanting to demonstrate the Macs SUPERIORITY (once again) to this weenie - I quickly went there in netscape and immediately saw the page is full of links to: DeCss As you are aware, DeCss is a) a code to unlock DVD encryption "so you can play DVDs in Linex" or b) a code to do something to Cascading Style Sheets. It took me about 30 seconds to access my dusty databanks on exactly what DeCss was - but as soon as I saw the link to the pigdog journal I exclaimed "hey a link to Douchy's homepage" so this has got to be mostly harmless! So not only do you have 6 degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon, but one degree from the next great internet hoax. Those weenies were scared ! s/s Skippy LustCrazedWeasels.com Customer Service ---8<--- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 2 15:07:37 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] This One Is For Mr. Marti Message-ID: <87u26c1y6e.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> ...but I figgered I'd send it to all of Crackmonkey, too. Here's the issue: ---8<--- From: DG To: Biddy Date: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: video copyrights >Actually - it is perfectly LEGAL to copy a rented videotape. I can't >site the statures - but its true. (someone like Mr. Bad will prolly have details.) > >Diana ---8<--- I'm not sure of the answer on this one. I'm fairly certain that you're within your fair use rights to make a backup copy of a videotape that you have BOUGHT. However, are you within those rights for a tape that you RENTED? My spidey senses say no. The justification for archive copying of something you bought doesn't seem to hold if there's a time limit on how long you can use the original. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 10:39:47 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato Message-ID: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://zork.net/~sneakums/badvogato.png I look forward to being bettered. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 10:50:49 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 06:39:47PM +0000 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 06:39:47PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > Hey. I wanna damn zork.net mailbox! Where do I sign up? -- Bob Bernstein | This space reserved | at | for cutesy irrelevancies | Esmond, R.I., USA | and embarassing personal | | disclosures. | From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 11:01:42 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:50:49 -0500" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> Message-ID: <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein writes: BB> Hey. I wanna damn zork.net mailbox! Where do I sign up? Everyone knows that if you whine loud enough and long enough, you'll get what you want. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 11:15:04 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 07:01:42PM +0000 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 07:01:42PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > Everyone knows that if you whine loud enough and long enough, you'll > get what you want. You mean just to shut me up I'll get a zork account? Great! Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme... -- Bob Bernstein | This space reserved | at | for cutesy irrelevancies | Esmond, R.I., USA | and embarassing personal | | disclosures. | From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 11:18:04 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:15:04 -0500" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> Message-ID: <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein writes: BB> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 07:01:42PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: >> Everyone knows that if you whine loud enough and long enough, >> you'll get what you want. BB> You mean just to shut me up I'll get a zork account? Great! I keep forgetting that sarcasm is strictly rationed back East, and that many people over there have never even seen it. Gar. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 13:02:45 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 07:18:04PM +0000 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 07:18:04PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > I keep forgetting that sarcasm is strictly rationed back East, and > that many people over there have never even seen it. The sarcasm was _so_ obvious it didn't merit a response, so I played it straight. > Gar. Hardly rates a gar. To return to the fray, what did you do to get your zork.net inbox? -- Bob Bernstein | This space reserved | at | for cutesy irrelevancies | Esmond, R.I., USA | and embarassing personal | | disclosures. | From pedro at zork.net Sat Feb 3 13:24:19 2001 From: pedro at zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 04:02:45PM -0500 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> Message-ID: <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Bob Bernstein: > To return to the fray, what did you do to get your zork.net inbox? Nothing. (And it's a user account, not an inbox. I'm surprised I had to explain this to you.) pedro From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 13:30:06 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:02:45 -0500" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> Message-ID: <6ug0hvmp41.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein writes: BB> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 07:18:04PM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: >> I keep forgetting that sarcasm is strictly rationed back East, >> and that many people over there have never even seen it. BB> The sarcasm was _so_ obvious it didn't merit a response, so I BB> played it straight. Running backwards is even more dangerous than running with scissors. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< This used to be real-estate, now it's only fields and trees. >>>> >>> >> > From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 13:58:03 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6ug0hvmp41.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <6ug0hvmp41.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203215815.9283F2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 03 Feb 2001 21:30:06 +0000, Irish Bastard stepped totally out of character and said: > Running backwards is even more dangerous than running with scissors. Oooo. He's replying in koans. I better be careful here or else I will once again reveal to the universe my abject pitiful stupidity. Golly, will I ever make the grade and be _really_ cool and happenin' like you crackmonkey kids? -- Bob Bernstein ..the "open source" movement has, at its roots, the point of _getting away from_ impractical things like defending principles on principle... Chris Browne in gnu.misc.discuss From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 14:01:40 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203220149.BD17A2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:24:19 -0600, Peter A. Peterson II stepped totally out of character and said: > > To return to the fray, what did you do to get your zork.net inbox? > > Nothing. He did nothing, or you did nothing? I've done nothing for a long time now and if I have a zork ACCOUNT I don't know about it. > (And it's a user account, not an inbox. I'm surprised I had to explain > this to you.) I'm surprised you were thrown off track by my invocation of poetic license. I'd already referred to it as a 'mailbox' and an 'account', so 'inbox' seemed like an acceptable albeit rough synonym. Yes? -- Bob Bernstein ..the "open source" movement has, at its roots, the point of _getting away from_ impractical things like defending principles on principle... Chris Browne in gnu.misc.discuss From nutella at zork.net Sat Feb 3 14:06:23 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 03:24:19PM -0600 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203140623.A9515@zork.net> 03Feb2001 03:24PM (-0600) From [pedro@zork.net] pedro [Peter A. Peterson II] > Quoting Bob Bernstein: > > To return to the fray, what did you do to get your zork.net inbox? > > Nothing. > (And it's a user account, not an inbox. I'm surprised I had to explain > this to you.) I use mine just to store my AOL buddy list. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From aaronl at vitelus.com Sat Feb 3 14:15:04 2001 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203140623.A9515@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 02:06:23PM -0800 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> <20010203140623.A9515@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203141504.A994@vitelus.com> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 02:06:23PM -0800, Bernard wrote: > 03Feb2001 03:24PM (-0600) From [pedro@zork.net] pedro [Peter A. Peterson II] > > Nothing. > > (And it's a user account, not an inbox. I'm surprised I had to explain > > this to you.) > > I use mine just to store my AOL buddy list. Maybe Bob's AOL window is over his zork window!! From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Feb 3 14:26:10 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203220149.BD17A2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:01:40PM -0500 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> <20010203220149.BD17A2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20010203142610.U26541@linuxmafia.com> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > He did nothing, or you did nothing? I've done nothing for a long time > now and if I have a zork ACCOUNT I don't know about it. Yes, but he does nothing with _style_. -- Cheers, People talking in movie shows, Rick Moen People smoking in bed, rick@linuxmafia.com People voting Republican: Give them a boot to the head. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 14:31:43 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203142610.U26541@linuxmafia.com> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> <20010203220149.BD17A2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20010203142610.U26541@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20010203223152.89B3A2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:26:10 -0800, Rick Moen stepped totally out of character and said: > Yes, but he does nothing with _style_. He's not a nothing monger, he's a nothing....stylist! Thank you, thank you, you've been a great crowd....drive safely now. G'night! Film trivia -> I am ripping off who (whom?) in what movie? -- Bob Bernstein ..the "open source" movement has, at its roots, the point of _getting away from_ impractical things like defending principles on principle... Chris Browne in gnu.misc.discuss From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 14:33:56 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203141504.A994@vitelus.com> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <20010203152419.A26832@flynn.zork.net> <20010203140623.A9515@zork.net> <20010203141504.A994@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20010203223405.057EC2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 14:15:04 -0800, Aaron Lehmann stepped totally out of character and said: > Maybe Bob's AOL window is over his zork window!! Nope. Turned out to be my Go.com popup. -- Bob Bernstein ..the "open source" movement has, at its roots, the point of _getting away from_ impractical things like defending principles on principle... Chris Browne in gnu.misc.discuss From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 3 15:48:21 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 06:39:47PM +0000 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > http://zork.net/~sneakums/badvogato.png > > I look forward to being bettered. Ignoring the Irish conversational backwash that follows this original posting, I'll give you another submission that Elisix and I got: http://zork.net/~nick/pix/badvogato-reptile.png Compared to this one, yours is arse-slow. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 3 15:50:41 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:11 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203215815.9283F2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 04:58:03PM -0500 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <6ug0hvmp41.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203215815.9283F2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20010203155041.R26483@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > Golly, will I ever make the grade and be _really_ cool and happenin' > like you crackmonkey kids? no -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 15:51:31 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "03 Feb 2001 16:58:03 EST" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203135049.A434@ruptured-duck.com> <6uofwjmvzd.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203141504.A456@ruptured-duck.com> <6uk877mv83.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203160245.B456@ruptured-duck.com> <6ug0hvmp41.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203215815.9283F2B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <6ubssjmikc.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein writes: BB> Golly, will I ever make the grade and be _really_ cool and BB> happenin' like you crackmonkey kids? The very act of asking is your answer. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 3 15:55:14 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <87u26bnwyl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> http://zork.net/~mrbad/badvogato.jpg ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 15:57:09 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:48:21 -0800" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: MM> Ignoring the Irish conversational backwash that follows this MM> original posting, Bernstein started this tide of irrelevancy. MM> I'll give you another submission that Elisix and I got: MM> http://zork.net/~nick/pix/badvogato-reptile.png Aware as I am of how bad mine is, I like it better than this feeble knock off. And I don't see the sad fuck who did that idiotic repitle posting it in public, where it sure to be PILLAGED. MM> Compared to this one, yours is arse-slow. And yet Badvogato is still without a logo. I realise that many people who use text-based browsers, or who do not load images, will never see such a logo, but a suitable one will strike FEAR into the HEARTS of those who consider signing up to Badvogato a trivial undertaking, since such people will not have the WIT or ELEGANCE to take proactive measures against NEEDLESS use of IMAGERY. PUNISH the UNBELIEVERS. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 3 15:58:54 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 11:57:09PM +0000 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203155854.S26483@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > Aware as I am of how bad mine is, I like it better than this feeble > knock off. And I don't see the sad fuck who did that idiotic > repitle posting it in public, where it sure to be PILLAGED. Since it pisses you off so much, I'll just put it up now. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 16:09:39 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Mr. Bad's message of "03 Feb 2001 15:55:14 -0800" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <87u26bnwyl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6u3ddvmhq4.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MB" == Bad writes: MB> http://zork.net/~mrbad/badvogato.jpg BZZZT! It's the wrong shape, d00d. Also, it sucks. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 16:10:41 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:58:54 -0800" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203155854.S26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <6uy9vnl33y.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: MM> begin Irish Bastard quotation: >> Aware as I am of how bad mine is, I like it better than this feeble >> knock off. And I don't see the sad fuck who did that idiotic >> repitle posting it in public, where it sure to be PILLAGED. MM> Since it pisses you off so much, I'll just put it up now. I expected nothing less than an unoriginal knee-jerk reaction from you. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 3 16:13:35 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6uy9vnl33y.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 12:10:41AM +0000 References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203155854.S26483@zork.net> <6uy9vnl33y.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010203161335.T26483@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > MM> Since it pisses you off so much, I'll just put it up now. > > I expected nothing less than an unoriginal knee-jerk reaction from > you. Sorry to disappoint. It's staying up until you provide a better one. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 16:15:22 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:13:35 -0800" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203155854.S26483@zork.net> <6uy9vnl33y.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203161335.T26483@zork.net> Message-ID: <6uu26bl2w5.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: MM> begin Irish Bastard quotation: MM> Since it pisses you off so much, I'll just put it up now. >> >> I expected nothing less than an unoriginal knee-jerk reaction from >> you. MM> Sorry to disappoint. MM> It's staying up until you provide a better one. Better lay your bets on the heat-death of the Universe while the odds are still good, then. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 3 16:18:34 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6u3ddvmhq4.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <87u26bnwyl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u3ddvmhq4.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <87k877nvvp.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: MB> http://zork.net/~mrbad/badvogato.jpg IB> BZZZT! It's the wrong shape, d00d. Also, it sucks. JEALOUS MUCH!? Hahahahahahahaha! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 16:22:53 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Mr. Bad's message of "03 Feb 2001 16:18:34 -0800" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <87u26bnwyl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u3ddvmhq4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87k877nvvp.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6upugzl2jm.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MB" == Bad writes: >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: MB> http://zork.net/~mrbad/badvogato.jpg IB> BZZZT! It's the wrong shape, d00d. Also, it sucks. MB> JEALOUS MUCH!? Hahahahahahahaha! Oh, terribly. I envy your l33t track-ball skillz. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 3 16:26:00 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6upugzl2jm.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <87u26bnwyl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u3ddvmhq4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87k877nvvp.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6upugzl2jm.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <87g0hvnvjb.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: MB> JEALOUS MUCH!? Hahahahahahahaha! IB> Oh, terribly. I envy your l33t track-ball skillz. No, you're mad because everyone loves my picture and they just pooped all over yours. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 3 16:30:41 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: Mr. Bad's message of "03 Feb 2001 16:26:00 -0800" References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <87u26bnwyl.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u3ddvmhq4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87k877nvvp.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6upugzl2jm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87g0hvnvjb.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6ulmrnl26m.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MB" == Bad writes: >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> Oh, terribly. I envy your l33t track-ball skillz. MB> No, you're mad because everyone loves my picture and they just MB> pooped all over yours. I was looking for more submissions. Preferably ones that sucked less than mine. I guess 1 out of 2 ain't bad. No... it's fucking awful. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 3 19:23:27 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A not-bad-enough logo for badvogato In-Reply-To: <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6usnlvmwzw.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010203154821.Q26483@zork.net> <6u7l37miay.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010204032341.555242B14D@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 03 Feb 2001 23:57:09 +0000, Irish Bastard stepped totally out of character and said: > Bernstein started this tide of irrelevancy. Never a tall order around here, *and* I did it without using 'meme' or 'leet'. -- Bob Bernstein ..the "open source" movement has, at its roots, the point of _getting away from_ impractical things like defending principles on principle... Chris Browne in gnu.misc.discuss From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 3 22:57:15 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn Them! Message-ID: <87k8776ilw.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> http://www.esperanto.no/ ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 3 23:33:10 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Esperanto Fortune File Message-ID: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Wake up each morning with some inspirational words from La Fundinto himself, L.L. Zamenhof. This collection of pithy sayings (snagged from esperanto.no and reformatted for fortune) was published in a 5-language volume of sayings in 1905 by Zamenhof's father, and then on its own as the "Proverbaro Esperanta" in the early 60s. It's all ready -- just download, strfile, and copy to /usr/local/share/games/fortunes. ~Mr. Bad P.S. Methinks this would be a good Debian package. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From yosemite at dasbistro.com Sat Feb 3 23:46:19 2001 From: yosemite at dasbistro.com (Yosemite Sam) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Esperanto Fortune File In-Reply-To: <20010203234315.E28874@aztech-cs.com>; from yosemite@dasbistro.com on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 11:43:15PM -0800 References: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010203234315.E28874@aztech-cs.com> Message-ID: <20010203234619.F28874@aztech-cs.com> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 11:33:10PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > Wake up each morning with some inspirational words from La Fundinto > himself, L.L. Zamenhof. This collection of pithy sayings (snagged from > esperanto.no and reformatted for fortune) was published in a > 5-language volume of sayings in 1905 by Zamenhof's father, and then on > its own as the "Proverbaro Esperanta" in the early 60s. > > It's all ready -- just download, strfile, and copy to > /usr/local/share/games/fortunes. > > ~Mr. Bad > > P.S. Methinks this would be a good Debian package. > Wow this is great Mr. Bad! But where is it? -- __ ( ) "Yosemite" Sam |HB J,o yosemite@dasbistro.com |SRB \| Histogram Valley, Nevada |DD From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 3 23:46:37 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Esperanto Fortune File In-Reply-To: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87bssi7uw2.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "B" == Bad writes: B> It's all ready -- just download, strfile, and copy to B> /usr/local/share/games/fortunes. Tricked you. http://zork.net/~mrbad/proverbaro.gz ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sirrmt at dingoblue.net.au Sun Feb 4 01:01:30 2001 From: sirrmt at dingoblue.net.au (Robert Thomson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Esperanto Fortune File In-Reply-To: <87bssi7uw2.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 11:46:37PM -0800 References: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87bssi7uw2.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010204200130.A6258@quixote.quixote> begin Mr. Bad quotation: > >>>>> "B" == Bad writes: > > B> It's all ready -- just download, strfile, and copy to > B> /usr/local/share/games/fortunes. > > Tricked you. > > http://zork.net/~mrbad/proverbaro.gz Ho ho ho, bonega trovito (kaj traduko), Sinjoro Malbona. Pli frue, mi kreis http://rmt.dyndns.org/rmt.png por sxerci kaj por ludi kun la GIMP-o. Humura, cxu ne? Gxis revido, rmt. -- Richa estas tiu, kiu shuldas al neniu. -- L.L. Zamenhof, "Proverbaro Esperanta" (1905) -- +++ATH0 From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Feb 4 01:05:06 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] informal art contest Message-ID: <20010204010506.A22558@zgp.org> $ freenet_request favicon.ico Freenet Core running on 4024 (build 161) State "PREPARED" reached. State "REQUESTING" reached. A message was sent to tcp/127.0.0.1:19114. A message was received from tcp/127.0.0.1:19114. State "FAILED" reached. The request was unsuccessful. Src:tcp/127.0.0.1:19114 htl:37 depth:7 id:7a6b439d1b2c4f0e type:Freenet.message.TimedOut was received Request failed gracefully. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From jdub at aphid.net Sun Feb 4 01:15:24 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] informal art contest In-Reply-To: <20010204010506.A22558@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 01:05:06AM -0800 References: <20010204010506.A22558@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010204201524.A5173@aphid.net> > $ freenet_request favicon.ico Where did all Don's cool go? - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I was there when geek became chic. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Sun Feb 4 10:51:48 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Esperanto Fortune File In-Reply-To: <20010204200130.A6258@quixote.quixote>; from sirrmt@dingoblue.net.au on Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 08:01:30PM +1100 References: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87bssi7uw2.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010204200130.A6258@quixote.quixote> Message-ID: <20010204125147.B25200@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Robert Thomson: > begin Mr. Bad quotation: > Pli frue, mi kreis http://rmt.dyndns.org/rmt.png por sxerci ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oh, HAH! For a second there, I thought that was just part of your crazy moon-language. Cxiblazxo! pedro From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sun Feb 4 12:46:14 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Esperanto Fortune File In-Reply-To: <20010204125147.B25200@flynn.zork.net> References: <87g0hu7vih.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87bssi7uw2.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010204200130.A6258@quixote.quixote> <20010204125147.B25200@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <877l366usp.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson writes: PAP> Cxiblazxo! Chiblajho al vi ankau, Pedro. Mi konsentas, ke la iks-metodo estas tre stranga kaj malbela. ~S-o Malbona -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dsaklad at gnu.org Mon Feb 5 03:08:27 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nuf Ced McGreevy Message-ID: Via Deja.com Usenet Discussion Service Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology http://deja.com By David Nevard Visitor's Guide to Boston Baseball Chapter2: Nuf Ced McGreevy http://people.ne.mediaone.net/buffalohead/Chapter2.html [2] Where is that McGreevy collection? [nuffced.jpg] [ http://people.ne.mediaone.net/buffalohead/Chapter2.html ] On our 1909 map can be seen (faintly) McGreevey Saloon at the corner of Tremont & Ruggles. Some say McGreevys Third Base was on Culvert (Whittier) Street, nearby. Then again, as this advertisement notes, he was on the Avenue (Huntington). A visit to the McGreevy Collection would probably help clarify things. Nuf Ced McGreevy was the leader of the Royal Rooters, fanatical Boston baseball fans. Tessie (Theme song of the Royal Rooters) Tessie, you make me feel so badly Why dont you turn around Tessie you know I love you madly Babe, my heart weighs about a pound Dont blame me if I ever doubt you. You know I couldnt live without you Tessie, you are my only, only, only. Read the story of Tessie and the 1903 World Series http://www.herringdesign.com/hd/hdq/dierker/baseball11.html According to our BL Makepeace 1987 Boston baseball calendar: "Michael T. McGreevy, Boston saloonkeeper and baseball fan extraordinaire, founded and led the 'Royal Rooters' for nearly thirty years, and amassed a rich collection of photographs, clippings, and other baseball memorabilia. When Prohibition forced McGreevy to close Third Base, his saloon at the corner of Tremont & Ruggles streets, he donated his collection to the Boston Public Library." Author Glenn Stout was for many years the curator of the McGreevy collection; his history of the Boston Red Sox is expected to be released in time for the team's hundredth anniversary in 2001. [ http://www.indiepro.com/glenn/bio.htm ] To view the McGreevy Collection, call Mary Beth Dunhouse, in the research library office, for an appointment. There is also a McGreevy scrapbook on microfilm, no appointment necessary. A BPL card is required to see either the collection or the microfilm. Any Massachusetts resident can get a borrower's card; out of state resident cards are for research only (picture ID required for either card). The Boston Public Library is in Copley Square. Call (617) 536-5400 Next Chapter http://people.ne.mediaone.net/buffalohead/Chapter3.html Home http://people.ne.mediaone.net/buffalohead/guide.htm By David Nevard Visitor's Guide to Boston Baseball Chapter2: Nuf Ced McGreevy http://people.ne.mediaone.net/buffalohead/Chapter2.html From smb23 at csufresno.edu Mon Feb 5 08:36:29 2001 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Bad joke Message-ID: <6b4896c2f8.6c2f86b489@scccd.org> After you read the joke, the questiom that arises is, does he journal? Copied from stupid joke email: Christian Computing Jesus and Satan are sitting around in the world between, having an argument over who is the better programmer. They discuss this for several hours until they agree to hold a contest, with God as the judge. Sitting at their computers, they begin typing furiously, lines of code filling up the screens, for almost three hours. Seconds before the contest is to end, a bolt of lightning takes out the electricity. A few moments later, power is restored, and God announces that the contest is over. He asks Satan to show him his programming. Visibly upset, Satan says, "I have nothing! I lost it all when the power went out." "Let's see if Jesus has fared any better," God says. Jesus pulls up his screen and shows God a vivid display as the voices of an angelic choir resound from the speakers. Satan is shocked. "But how?" he cries. "I lost everything, but Jesus' program is intact?" "How did he do it?" God laughed. "Everyone knows...Jesus saves." From geoperry at iww.org Mon Feb 5 10:09:09 2001 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Jimi Hendrix' images are up for grabs (Windows eXPerience) Message-ID: Only "neo" about colonialism: technology's opening new fields. -g From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Feb 5 10:55:04 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nuf Ced McGreevy In-Reply-To: ; from dsaklad@gnu.org on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:08:27AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010205105504.V26483@zork.net> What's all this sportsball shit? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Mon Feb 5 11:12:57 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [sween@modelm.org: RE: [Pigdog] 2400 8N1] Message-ID: <20010205111257.W26483@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from sween ----- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:21:53 -0500 (EST) From: sween To: pigdog-l@bearfountain.com Subject: RE: [Pigdog] 2400 8N1 In-Reply-To: Reply-To: pigdog-l@bearfountain.com yeah, and remember these days? http://gallery.drooldonkey.org/files/radioshack.jpg On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Kurt Weiske wrote: > > Telix for Windows came with a .wav version of the doo-dii-dee doo-dii-dee > alert sound that Telix for DOS used to make out the PC speaker. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pigdog-l@bearfountain.com > [mailto:owner-pigdog-l@bearfountain.com]On Behalf Of Paul J Collins > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:45 AM > To: Freaky Mutant Swine > Subject: [Pigdog] 2400 8N1 > > > > >From http://www.advogato.org/person/StevenRainwater/diary.html?start=80 > > > The only strange part of the whole thing is that our home dial-up > > connection was the last analog modem that I used and heard on a > > regular basis. I think I've listened to modem connect-tones nearly > > every day of my life for at least 20 years. It's going to be strange > > getting used to not hearing them. Made me start thinking again that > > someone should try to preserve some of those wonderful > > sounds. Perhaps an archive with WAV/MP3 files of all the classic > > connect tones - those strange tones the high-end US Robotics models > > used to make only when they connected with another USR; the old 300 > > and 1200 Baud connect sounds; the first DSI V.32 and V.32bis connect > > sounds. Hmmmm... better stop before I get all nostalgic for the good > > ol' days... > > -- > Paul Collins - - - [ ] > GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD > "This one's optimistic, this one went to market; > this one just came out of the swamp." > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Mon Feb 5 12:27:33 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: At least it's organic.] Message-ID: <20010205122733.A24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull Today's issue of BusinessWeek (Feb 12, 2000) reports, under the headline "Don't give us any crap" that the Swiss police protecting the World Economic Forum at Davos had loaded their water cannon with liquid manure, which was normally sprayed on fields as fertilizer. Squirting the demonstrators with manure would be a last resort... When asked about it, a heavily armed policewoman in Davos remarked: "At least it's organic." (Sorry no URL, its on page 12 of the magazine, available at newsstands everywhere.) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Mon Feb 5 14:06:39 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Mad Science! Message-ID: <20010205140638.C24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: john http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1154000/1154784.stm Mankind will soon have the ability to move the Earth into a new orbit, say a team of astronomers. [...] Using the well-understood "gravitational sling shot" technique that has been employed to send space probes to the outer planets, the researchers now think a large asteroid could be used to reposition the Earth to maintain a benign global climate. [...] But it would be a procedure that required some care. If the 100 km asteroid was to collide with the Earth then it would wipe out all life on our planet. "This danger cannot be overemphasised," the researchers stress. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dsaklad at gnu.org Mon Feb 5 16:37:12 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] What would it had been like?... if the lib... Message-ID: Deja.com Usenet Discussion Service http://deja.com Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology, ne.general, ne.politics, soc.libraries.talk What would it had been like?... if our Boston Public Library latched on to a kibologist for the BPL organizational culture graphical rectangles http://www.bpl.org/WWW/generalinfo/planapp.html#b and for the BPL organizational culture graphical circles http://www.bpl.org/WWW/generalinfo/planapp.html#d 1. It would be ASCII American Standard Code for Information Interchange http://www.google.com/search?q=ascii 2. ?... ...? oo-- dWs Guide to Problematical Boston Public Library Use Contents http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.weblogs.com/stories Search with http://www.google.com Enter "descriptive terms" AND guidetoproblematicallibraryuse From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Feb 5 18:13:44 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] informal art contest In-Reply-To: <20010204201524.A5173@aphid.net>; from jdub@aphid.net on Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 08:15:24PM +1100 References: <20010204010506.A22558@zgp.org> <20010204201524.A5173@aphid.net> Message-ID: <20010205181344.C24146@zgp.org> On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 08:15:24PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Where did all Don's cool go? Fucking with users of proprietary OSs is on-topic for this list. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 6 09:38:50 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ...Reasonable Expectation of Privacy... Message-ID: <20010206093850.E24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Marie Moffitt ----- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:13:05 -0800 Subject: Sorry to raise your hackles so early in the morning... ...but I thought you'd want to see this, if you haven't seen it already: http://www.cybercrime.gov/searchmanual.htm ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 6 09:59:42 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] THIS ISLAND OPRAH Message-ID: <20010206095942.F24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Gary Clemenceau ----- here are MORE, yes, MORE islands of horror and Oprah majesty. http://svbizink.com/frankplanet/default.asp?iid=163 smooches, -g. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 6 10:05:23 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat Message-ID: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from The Mighty Silverback ----- OK, here are some search strings people used to find Pigdog over the last month: - trampling - bestiality - midget - jenni - ass - prostitute - child sex - baby radio - dog fucking - pictures of crazy people - nakid girls - Clown pornography - nude XFL cheerleaders - milky mamas - sexualy position - jellowrestling - pointed tits - cb codes - suckass - poop - bodyperks - fusion splicers - pregnant porn - subliminal messages - dickwad - josie and the pussycats - electic toothbrush - beavers animal - looky by god - the tongue hurt - chicken fuckers - sexy russians - man fuck little boy - German Porn - It's 4:20 - Crazy People Pictures - scooby snacks - porn games - Most Evil People in the World - 10 Most Evil People in the World [better narrow that search] - sphinx napolean - Subliminal Seduction - Giant Penis - hacker clothes - George Orwell - skinheads - Silvia Saint - whales - burning man festival - Microsoft subliminal - Metallica sues - kim rollins - massive penis - whips and girls - freemasons - lapdancers - pervert sex - Canadia Living Health For Life - NAKED WWII LADIES - dumb motherfucker [!!!!!!] - vegemite - fetish dead body - female ejaculation ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 6 11:43:59 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] hack hack Message-ID: <20010206114359.I24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: "Paul Foster" "There's a little bit of a cheer that goes up when you see someone has found a way to put us on the TV and helped raise people's awareness about engineering," http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/02/05/MN60371.DTL ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 6 14:23:11 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Misunderstood visionary Message-ID: <20010206142311.A22538@zgp.org> "Kevin O'Connor is in My Hall of Fame" by Dana Blankenhorn http://www.clickz.com/print.jsp?article=445 "O'Connor understands that it's not the web, it's the power of a universal network that is the key to our time. So when analysts say things like, "he's consolidating the web ad business," they just don't get it." Poor Kevin. The analysts just don't get him. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Tue Feb 6 15:47:02 2001 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 10:05:23AM -0800 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 10:05:23AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > OK, here are some search strings people used to find Pigdog over the > last month: Through a project I'm working on, I have access to Google's full crawled domain name list. This includes subdomains, not just second level. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 6 16:23:11 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:47:02PM +0000 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:47:02PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > Through a project I'm working on, I have access to Google's full crawled > domain name list. STOP SPAMING you fuk or i will BALCK HOLE yr site!!!!!!!!!! -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Tue Feb 6 16:32:59 2001 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 04:23:11PM -0800 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 04:23:11PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:47:02PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > > > Through a project I'm working on, I have access to Google's full crawled > > domain name list. > > STOP SPAMING you fuk or i will BALCK HOLE yr site!!!!!!!!!! dtype != google heh I think I'm spamcop's biggest user. Manage to shut down one spammer's account every day or two now. -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 6 16:40:06 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:32:59AM +0000 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org> <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20010206164006.A25710@zgp.org> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:32:59AM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > I think I'm spamcop's biggest user. Manage to shut down one spammer's account > every day or two now. "Congratulations, you have won damages against a spammer under the new anti-spam law. You are now the owner of one Packard Bell computer, one Dade County, Florida bus pass, and one U-Stor-It full of HERBAL VIAGRA." -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Tue Feb 6 16:44:00 2001 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010206164006.A25710@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 04:40:06PM -0800 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org> <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org> <20010206164006.A25710@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010207004400.D26022@dtype.org> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 04:40:06PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > "Congratulations, you have won damages against a spammer under the new > anti-spam law. You are now the owner of one Packard Bell computer, one > Dade County, Florida bus pass, and one U-Stor-It full of HERBAL VIAGRA." Was that Florida bus pass one-way or two? My spam-pissiness (is that a word?) comes from receiving complaints for spam sent to 110K SourceForge email aliases and 5000 different mailing lists. -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From solitaire at tygger.net Wed Feb 7 04:01:12 2001 From: solitaire at tygger.net (solitaire) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:32:59AM +0000 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org> <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20010207120112.B72754@lioness.tygger.net> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:32:59AM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 04:23:11PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:47:02PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > > > > > Through a project I'm working on, I have access to Google's full crawled > > > domain name list. > > > > STOP SPAMING you fuk or i will BALCK HOLE yr site!!!!!!!!!! > > dtype != google > > heh > > I think I'm spamcop's biggest user. Manage to shut down one spammer's account > every day or two now. > Really? He must be getting seriously pissed at you. Was there a reason to pick on him in particular? And if he's getting new accounts within the day all the time, have you thought of changing your tactics? sol. . -- "It looks like rabbit dung. But in a *good* way." -- Penny From dtype at dtype.org Tue Feb 6 16:57:22 2001 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010207120112.B72754@lioness.tygger.net>; from solitaire@tygger.net on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:01:12PM +0000 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> <20010206162311.J22538@zgp.org> <20010207003259.C26022@dtype.org> <20010207120112.B72754@lioness.tygger.net> Message-ID: <20010207005722.E26022@dtype.org> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:01:12PM +0000, solitaire wrote: > > I think I'm spamcop's biggest user. Manage to shut down one spammer's account > > every day or two now. > > > > Really? He must be getting seriously pissed at you. Was there a reason > to pick on him in particular? And if he's getting new accounts within > the day all the time, have you thought of changing your tactics? s/one/a/ -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Tue Feb 6 18:34:26 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> Message-ID: <87pugvnrv1.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MDS" == M Drew Streib writes: MDS> (ass) 254162 So this means some freako waded through roughly 160,000 search hits to find Pigdog Journal. I guess the other 159,999 mentions of the word "ass" didn't quite work for him/her. "No, that's not quite IT... not QUITE the connotation that I was looking for... WAIT! What's THIS? 'Why the Future Sucks Ass'. By GUM, that's EXACTLY what I'm SEEKING. Perhaps a CLICKTHROUGH is in order!" ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 6 20:05:50 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live Nude Teen Linux Warez MP3 Chat In-Reply-To: <87pugvnrv1.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 06:34:26PM -0800 References: <20010206100523.H24692@zork.net> <20010206234702.B26022@dtype.org> <87pugvnrv1.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010206200550.D28423@zgp.org> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 06:34:26PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > I guess the other 159,999 mentions of the word "ass" didn't quite work > for him/her. "No, that's not quite IT... not QUITE the connotation > that I was looking for... WAIT! What's THIS? 'Why the Future Sucks > Ass'. By GUM, that's EXACTLY what I'm SEEKING. Perhaps a CLICKTHROUGH > is in order!" Naah, probably just spamware looking for email addresses that appear on the same page as the word "ass" -- obvious 100% OPT-IN QUALFIED OPPORTUNITY SEEKERES!!!!! -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From benb at iastate.edu Tue Feb 6 21:54:49 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Irony Message-ID: <3A80E329.41C7997B@iastate.edu> Alanis-style or not: http://www.issl.org/ The web site for the Information Systems Security Laboratory, of ISU, which spends a bunch of time finding out how people can make servers and such more secure. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.issl.org See what it's running for yourself. Ben From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 6 22:13:14 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Irony In-Reply-To: <3A80E329.41C7997B@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:54:49PM -0600 References: <3A80E329.41C7997B@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20010206221313.N24692@zork.net> begin Ben Brockert quotation: > The web site for the Information Systems Security Laboratory, of > ISU, which spends a bunch of time finding out how people can make > servers and such more secure. > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.issl.org So what? I mean, ANYONE can make a system like OpenBSD or Linux secure. It takes EXPERTS to lock down IIS. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 6 22:20:08 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 5 February 2001] Message-ID: <20010206222008.O24692@zork.net> HAW HAW ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily FREEDOM IS SUAVITY "There really isn't much value in free." Microsoft executive Doug Miller -- who works for a company that provides free email, a free browser, and six months of free Internet access -- on the value of Linux, Wired News, 31 January 2001 http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41527,00.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 6 22:20:56 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 6 February 2001] Message-ID: <20010206222056.P24692@zork.net> So if they're kissing cousins, does that make McNealy Elvis? ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily THE COBALT ACQUISITION WAS A VERY KINKY SHOTGUN WEDDING "I look at Linux as yet another Unix.... It's a kissing cousin. I don't think Solaris and Linux would be allowed to marry." Sun CEO Scott McNealy, raising unanticipated legal concerns about his company's recent acquisition of a Linux server manufacturer, News.com, 6 February 2001 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1014-201-4729965-0.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dsaklad at gnu.org Wed Feb 7 02:10:06 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] CFP2001 News, February 6, 2001 Message-ID: - ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:47:10 -0800 (PST) From: Computers CFP2001 News -- February 6, 2001 What happened last week in the world of CFP? Just take a look below at some of the news from last week. Come to CFP2001 to take on the topics and hear from and meet the people who are in the news and making the rules. CFP2001: The Eleventh Conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy March 6 - 9, 2001, Hyatt Regency, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA www.cfp2001.org REGISTER for CFP2001. Early fees deadline is February 18, 2001. Reserve your hotel room. Reduced rate deadline is February 15, 2001. CFP gathers together the world's leading members of the technical, government, business, education, non-profit, legal, law enforcement, security, media and hacker/cracker communities to address the cutting edge questions in computing, freedom and privacy: voting, privacy protection and invasion, intellectual property rights, computer and network security, national and international law enforcement, civil liberties, governance, cybercrime, freedom of speech, filters, surveillance, censorship, facial recognition at the Super Bowl (or, time to start wearing a ski mask to football games). And then there are the BOFs. See you at CFP2001. ITEM: International Crime Threat Assessment http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010202/tc/war_on_drugs_targets_tech_1.html http://www.terrorism.com/documents/pub45270/pub45270index.html The December 2000 report, prepared by federal law enforcement agencies, cites improving information and communications technologies as facilitating national and international crime. ITEM: Security Vulnerability Allows Email Tracking http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/05/technology/05JAVA.html http://www.privacyfoundation.org/advisories/advemailwiretap.html The Privacy Foundation released an advisory describing a Javascript exploit that allows the sender of a message to monitor comments added to it when the original recipient forwards it to others. ITEM: "Juno Virtual Supercomputer Network" http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_577191,00.html http://help.juno.com/privacy/agreement.html The ISP's new Service Agreement requires that customers allow Juno to install "computational software" on their computers and that they leave their computers on at all times if requested to do so by the company. ITEM: Ten Things I Want People To Know About Voting Technology http://www.calvoter.org/publications/tenthings.html By Kim Alexander, California Voter Foundation president. ITEM: BIND Vulnerabilities http://securityfocus.com/frames/?content=/templates/article.html?id=144 http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-02.html CERT discovered weaknesses in multiple versions of the Berkeley Internet Name Domain. ITEM: ISC Security Group http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-202-4697364-0.html In the wake of the BIND disclosures, the Internet Software Consortium announced a members-only discussion group to share information about security flaws before they become widely known. ITEM: Nortel Tracking Technology for ISPs http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0_4_4642663_00.html http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010131/n31479724_2.html Nortel's "Personal Internet" technology allows dynamic provisioning of bandwidth, but could also be used to gather user information. ITEM: Napster May Become Subscription Service by Summer http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,41469,00.html Bertelsmann CEO Thomas Middlehoff said, "I'm convinced we can introduce in June or July of this year a subscription model, with a real working digital rights management system." ITEM: Hidden Cameras at Superbowl http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A9757-2001Jan31?language=printer http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A23360-2001Feb3?language=printer Authorities used hidden cameras and face-recognition software as a security measure in Tampa during the week of the Superbowl; a police spokesman said 19 matches were made, of people who had not committed "significant" crimes; no arrests were made. ITEM: BountyQuest http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/031/business/BountyQuest_awards_first_4_prizes-.shtml BountyQuest awarded four prizes of $10,000 for information that could lead to the overturning of patents held by Cisco, Intouch Group, Oracle and Walker Digital. ITEM: LinuxDisk http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/16469.html This device driver allows a Linux system with inexpensive IDE disks to be used in a storage network instead of more expensive SCSI- or Fiber Channel-based systems. ITEM: NSA To Design "Crack-proof" System http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2681205-2,00.html The NSA is working with VMWare to develop Linux-based virtual systems that can securely segregate information of different classification levels on the same physical computer. ITEM: BBC Plans To Filter Access to International News Site http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-202-4688018-0.html The BBC is developing BBCNews.com to make its international news available, but plans to prevent UK-based users from accessing the site, which will be advertising-supported, to separate its commercial and government-funded ventures such as www.bbc.co.uk ITEM: Commission Recommends Creation of "National Homeland Security Agency" http://washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8824-2001Jan31?language=printer The U.S. Commission on National Security recommended merging the Coast Guard, Customs Service, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and Border Patrol into a single agency whose director would have cabinet-level status. The Commission's report also made recommendations concerning the State and Defense Departments, the National Security and Economic Councils, and Congressional Appropriations Committees. ITEM: Privacy Foundation Urges Review of PACER http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-202-4614534.html The proposed "Public Access to Court Electronic Records" system would allow citizens to access sensitive but non-classified court documents, which might contain social security numbers, medical information, or financial histories. The Privacy Foundation calls for the removal of personal information before records are put online. ITEM: EPIC Bill Track http://www.epic.org/privacy/bill_track.html EPIC lists "Privacy, Speech, and Cyber-Liberties" legislation introduced in Congress. ITEM: Electronic Voting http://www.notablesoftware.com/evote.html Rebecca Mercuri's page of e-voting information. ITEM: DeCSS Case http://www.eff.org/pub/Intellectual_property/Video/MPAA_DVD_cases/ EFF archive of amicus briefs and other documents. (Note: yow have received this mailing because you have been an attendee at a previous CFP conference or because you have requested information about CFP. If you wish to be removed from ouur mailing list, please send your request to: cfpinfo@well.com and be sure to note the exact email address to which this communication was sent.) - ------- End of forwarded message ------- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 7 02:32:59 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] CFP2001 News, February 6, 2001 In-Reply-To: ; from dsaklad@gnu.org on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 05:10:06AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010207023259.Q24692@zork.net> begin Don Saklad quotation: > ITEM: LinuxDisk http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/16469.html This > device driver allows a Linux system with inexpensive IDE disks to be > used in a storage network instead of more expensive SCSI- or Fiber > Channel-based systems. ITEM: YugoVoy This after-market modification allows a motorist with inexpensive Yugos to be used in a freight convoy insead of more expensive pickup or 18-wheeler systems. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dsaklad at gnu.org Wed Feb 7 05:05:12 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] How to design a study with respect to denial of service at our public library Reference Desks departments. Message-ID: 1. Would any of you folks have any interest in participating in designing a study with respect to our Regional and Massachusetts Library of Last Recourse City of Boston Public Library Reference Desk Departments and our other cities' public libraries Reference Desks Departments?... 2. Do you folks out there think it would even be possible to design a study?... email: dsaklad@gnu.org Guide to Problematical Library Use Contents http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.weblogs.com/stories Search with http://google.com Enter: "descriptive terms" AND guidetoproblematicallibraryuse Delays or denials of BPL Reference Desk Services have been a manner of arbitrary hypocritical resistance, marginalization or ostracism ironically by so called intellectual freedom advocate BPL librarians, not limited to, but especially regarding withholding from public library users, public library personnel and public library unions collective bargaining units labor relations advocates legitimately public BPL inside documentation or BPL's own gray literature of itself http://www.libr.org/Juice/issues/vol3/LJ_3.34.html#13 contrary to guidelines like Reference and User Services Association Guidelines for Behavioral Performance of Reference and Information Services Professionals http://www.ala.org/rusa/stnd_behavior.html Boston Public Library Questions and Suggestions Information Request Options http://www.bpl.org/WWW/ReferenceForm.html Boston Public Library General Information about the BPL Mission Statement http://www.bpl.org/WWW/generalinfo/mission.html Boston Public Library Long Range Plan 2000-2003 http://www.bpl.org/WWW/generalinfo/longrangeplan.html American Library Association Interpretations of the Library Bill of Rights http://www.ala.org/work/freedom/interprt.html American Library Association Office for Intellectual Freedom Site Map http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/oifsitemap.html Sent To: Deja.com Usenet Discussion Service http://deja.com Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk ne.general alt.censorship alt.religion.kibology crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey faife-l@faife.dk http://www.faife.dk stumpers-l@cuis.edu gopher://gopher.cuis.edu/11gopher_root2:[stumpers-l] dig_ref@listserv.syr.edu http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dig_ref foi-l@listserv.syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~bcfought archives@listserv.muohio.edu http://www.archivists.org/listservs/index.html#archives-archivists recmgmt-l@lists.ufl.edu http://www.arma.org/resources/listserv.htm Bernie Margolis, BPL President bmargolis@bpl.org David Young, BPL Human Resources Department dyoung@bpl.org Kathryn Dibble, BPL Public Services Director kdibble@bpl.org Sally Beecher, BPL Telephone Reference Department sbeecher@bpl.org Dorothy Keller, BPL Catalog Information Department and Interlibrary Loan Officer dkeller@bpl.org Helen Bender, BPL Interlibrary Loan Department hbender@bpl.org Marilyn McLean, BPL Science Department Curator mmclean@bpl.org Gail Fithian, BPL Government Documents Department Curator govdocs@bpl.org Mary Francis O'Brien, BPL Social Sciences Department Curator mfobrien@bpl.org Diane Ota, BPL Music Department Curator dota@bpl.org Ed Fenninger, BPL Sound Archives Department Curator efenninger@bpl.org Steve Olson, BPL Audio Visual Department Head solson@bpl.org Fran Majusky, BPL Adult Readers and Information Services Department fmajusky@bpl.org http://www.bpl.org/brls/resources/contact_info.html http://www.bpl.org/WWW/departments.html http://www.bpl.org/brls/news/news.html From dsaklad at gnu.org Wed Feb 7 06:12:20 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Linux in the Library Steven K. Wieda Webmaster/Database Developer Message-ID: Via http://www.simmons.edu/programs/gslis/programs/ce.html Linux in the Library NEW! Saturday April 7, 2001 1:30-5:00 p.m. Park Science Center, Room S150 In this course, you will learn about some of the possibilities that Linux holds for Library Information Systems delivery and utility, as well as how to set up, configure, and maintain your own Linux system. This course will feature setup, configuration, and maintenance of RedHat Linux, the Apache web server, and the SQUID Proxy Server. Faculty: Steven K. Wieda, Webmaster/Database Developer, University of Connecticut, steven.wieda@uconn.edu http://www.simmons.edu/programs/gslis/programs/ce.html From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 7 09:30:15 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] How to design a study with respect to denial of service at our public library Reference Desks departments. In-Reply-To: ; from dsaklad@gnu.org on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:05:12AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010207093015.R24692@zork.net> begin Don Saklad quotation: > 1. Would any of you folks have any interest in participating in > designing a study with respect to our Regional and Massachusetts > Library of Last Recourse City of Boston Public Library Reference > Desk Departments and our other cities' public libraries Reference > Desks Departments?... What exactly do you plan to study? > Delays or denials of BPL Reference Desk Services have been a manner > of arbitrary hypocritical resistance, marginalization or ostracism > ironically by so called intellectual freedom advocate BPL > librarians, not limited to, but especially regarding withholding > from public library users, public library personnel and public > library unions collective bargaining units labor relations advocates > legitimately public BPL inside documentation or BPL's own gray > literature of itself > http://www.libr.org/Juice/issues/vol3/LJ_3.34.html#13 If this is your subject, the study could be quite difficult. If these people have any experience at all, they've developed this internal network in order to deal with Regan-era nuthouse ex-pats. When a woman with two invisible goons starts getting a little overexcited about researching the deaths of local-area librarians, you need to be able to divert her off into the kaleidoscope exhibit that's been set up in the theater. Being able to alert fellow librarians without antagonizing the hophead who's bugging you about war atrocities perpetrated by the NFL is an essential survival skill. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 7 09:41:19 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Library ish Message-ID: <20010207094119.S24692@zork.net> http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36584-2001Feb7.html Road to Tycho, anyone? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 7 09:45:23 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Library ish In-Reply-To: <20010207094119.S24692@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 09:41:19AM -0800 References: <20010207094119.S24692@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010207094523.T24692@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36584-2001Feb7.html "Tech people _never_ give _their_ stuff away..." (emphasis _theirs_) -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Feb 7 10:08:17 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Library ish In-Reply-To: <20010207094119.S24692@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 09:41:19AM -0800 References: <20010207094119.S24692@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010207100817.O14112@zgp.org> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 09:41:19AM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36584-2001Feb7.html > > Road to Tycho, anyone? Modern scientific research is surprisingly vulnerable to low-tech vandalism. Sneak in the walk-in incubator and whiz in the tissue cultures of scientists who publish in proprietary "e-journals." -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 7 13:57:11 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Hello Sooty] Message-ID: <20010207135711.U24692@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Rob Windsor From: Mark Turk http://www.wankel.net/Images/sooty.JPG A guinea pig called Sooty had a night to remember after escaping from his pen and tunnelling into a cage of 24 females. He romanced each of them in turn and was yesterday the proud father of 43 offspring. [...] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Feb 7 16:45:02 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] This One Is For Mr. Marti In-Reply-To: <87u26c1y6e.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:07:37PM -0800 References: <87u26c1y6e.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010207164502.I672@zork.net> Mr . Bad writes: > ...but I figgered I'd send it to all of Crackmonkey, too. > > Here's the issue: > > ---8<--- > From: DG > To: Biddy > Date: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: video copyrights > > >Actually - it is perfectly LEGAL to copy a rented videotape. I can't > >site the statures - but its true. (someone like Mr. Bad will prolly have details.) > > > >Diana > > ---8<--- > > I'm not sure of the answer on this one. I'm fairly certain that you're > within your fair use rights to make a backup copy of a videotape that > you have BOUGHT. > > However, are you within those rights for a tape that you RENTED? My > spidey senses say no. The justification for archive copying of > something you bought doesn't seem to hold if there's a time limit on > how long you can use the original. 17 USC 117 for computer programs. You can make backup copies if you own the program but not if you've rented it. Further, I don't see anything in the Copyright Act that would allow this for rented videos, which aren't computer programs -- or even for videos that you buy except for the general provisions of 17 USC 107 which wouldn't necessarily allow that. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 7 17:13:13 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [destiny@zork.net: [Pigdog] Doctor Stumbles Onto Orgasm Machine] Message-ID: <20010207171313.Y24692@zork.net> Our favorite hack does it again. ----- Forwarded message from David Cassel ----- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:25:45 -0500 (EST) To: pigdog-l@bearfountain.com Reuters describes a doctor applying electrodes to a patient for pain therapy.... http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010207/od/orgasm_dc_1.html You can get the gist of the story from these four randomly-selected quotes. "She made a different sound." " 'You're going to have to teach my husband how to do that.' " "We were able to reduce her narcotics usage by about a half." "Is it reproducible? I sure hope so." --- "Um -- you're a weenie." -- Devil Doll ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Feb 7 07:53:17 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Register.com contributes to knowledge of geography Message-ID: <20010207075317.K7449@cty-alum.org> Maybe this is why American students are supposedly doing so poorly on geography tests: ----- Forwarded message from "register.com" ----- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:18:09 -0000 From: "register.com" To: schoen@loyalty.org Subject: .WS (WebSite) Domain Name Extension Available at register.com Dear Seth: In this issue: Our News * .WS (WebSite) Domain Name Extension Available at register.com! * Renew your Domain Name with a Few Clicks of the Mouse! * Stay Ahead of your Competition! Which Domain Extension are you Looking For? * Register.com's Corporate Services: Our Business is Doing Your Domain Business * Is the Domain Name You want Taken? 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To read .WS press releases, click below! http://chtah.com/a/tA6gY6JAEIqG3AEVzJ9ADtSBkhV/n14o2 *subject to availability *DON'T FORGET TO RENEW YOUR DOMAIN NAMES BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!* You had the foresight to register a domain name. Now, with the domain name market rapidly expanding, make sure you remember to renew your domain name before it expires and risk losing it forever! Just log into Domain Manager and click on Quick Renew: you can renew your domain name in moments for only $35 a year. That's less than $3 a month! Secure your piece of the Web today! http://chtah.com/a/tA6gY6JAEIqG3AEVzJ9ADtSBkhV/n14o3 [...] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Feb 7 17:37:41 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Register.com contributes to knowledge of geography In-Reply-To: <20010207075317.K7449@cty-alum.org>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 07:53:17AM -0800 References: <20010207075317.K7449@cty-alum.org> Message-ID: <20010207173741.S7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > Maybe this is why American students are supposedly doing so poorly on > geography tests: Indeed. If Tuvalu can glean registration dollars from the credulous, why not [Western] Samoa? > .WS (WebSite) NAMES ARE GOING FAST SO CLAIM Schoen.ws * TODAY! As your attorney, I advise you to wire your registration to Apia, immmediately. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 7 18:39:05 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010207183905.Z24692@zork.net> The australians we give jobs peeling potatos. Get cracking. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- rick@praxis.com.au has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From rick at praxis.com.au Wed Feb 7 21:29:20 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: Message-ID: a long time ago the insular CrackMonkey wrote: > Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe > Notification] > > The australians we give jobs peeling potatos. Get cracking. Get rooted. We don't do 'potatos' downunder. We learn to spell first. Like a colourful neighbourhood harbour view. And we don't need to hear ourselves speak 23.5 hrs/day at a brain-splitting 150 dB louder than the person sitting beside us trying to think. At least you septics picked up on Monty Python last year (only 25 years too late). Looking forward to this list! CYA rick -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 7 21:50:42 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: ; from rick@praxis.com.au on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:29:20PM +1100 References: Message-ID: <20010207215042.A24692@zork.net> begin Rick Welykochy quotation: > Get rooted. We don't do 'potatos' downunder. Ah, I see. You just roll over and root your bunkmate, is that it? > We learn to spell first. Like a colourful neighbourhood harbour > view. Great. I suppose you pronounce all of these to rhyme with "velour" as well. > And we don't need to hear ourselves speak 23.5 hrs/day at a > brain-splitting 150 dB louder than the person sitting beside us > trying to think. As they say in California, "Thanks for sharing." > At least you septics picked up on Monty Python last year (only 25 > years too late). Oh for fuck's sake. The autistics and bumfluff-moustachioed wanks in this country have been quoting that shit for decades. I can directly attribute the number of bad affected accents in this country to the Lionheart corporation's syndication of reject BBC programmmemmmemmemees. It's horrible. Imagine a gazillion Joaquin Phoenix- or Natalie Portman-quality fake limey accents, all of them crying "I'm not dead yet!" There simply aren't enough bullets in the world to fix that. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nutella at zork.net Wed Feb 7 21:59:38 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: <20010207215042.A24692@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 09:50:42PM -0800 References: <20010207215042.A24692@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010207215938.A2098@zork.net> 07Feb2001 09:50PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > I can > directly attribute the number of bad affected accents in this country > to the Lionheart corporation's syndication of reject BBC > programmmemmmemmemees. You're just peeved that they stopped showing "Are you being served". Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 7 22:02:55 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: <20010207215938.A2098@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 09:59:38PM -0800 References: <20010207215042.A24692@zork.net> <20010207215938.A2098@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010207220255.B24692@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > You're just peeved that they stopped showing "Are you being served". They did? Wow, maybe I'll get a television again after all! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From rick at praxis.com.au Wed Feb 7 22:17:53 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] buffalo trees Message-ID: Quite surprised to read this: http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/bison.html which I initially though 2 B a ripoff of our wallaby trees in Oz. Parallel evolution? -rick From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Feb 7 22:23:16 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] buffalo trees In-Reply-To: ; from rick@praxis.com.au on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 05:17:53PM +1100 References: Message-ID: <20010208002316.L25200@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Rick Welykochy: > http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/bison.html WATCH OUT FOR THEM PRIONS, RICK! pedro From bryanf at samurai.com Wed Feb 7 22:26:39 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] buffalo trees In-Reply-To: ; from rick@praxis.com.au on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 05:17:53PM +1100 References: Message-ID: <20010208012639.R25824@samurai.com> On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 05:17:53PM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: > Quite surprised to read this: > > http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/bison.html Myself, I was quite surprised to read this: http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/requirements.html Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From rick at praxis.com.au Wed Feb 7 22:29:23 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] buffalo trees In-Reply-To: <20010208002316.L25200@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > Quoting Rick Welykochy: > > http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/bison.html > > WATCH OUT FOR THEM PRIONS, RICK! zzz-zzzz--zzz-stumble--zzzzt--zzzttt -- ... stoooooomble eyem bedder gnow, weeeleeeee From rick at praxis.com.au Wed Feb 7 22:45:20 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] buffalo trees In-Reply-To: <20010208012639.R25824@samurai.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > > Quite surprised to read this: > > > > http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/bison.html > > Myself, I was quite surprised to read this: > > http://www.firstnaturefarms.ab.ca/jkitt/new/requirements.html And I was quite surprised that it took you so long to find it. Tomorrow: how to build box girder bridges, save the world's poor and starving, and new methods to die in your washing machine. -rick From sneakums at zork.net Thu Feb 8 00:44:04 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:59:38 -0800" References: <20010207215042.A24692@zork.net> <20010207215938.A2098@zork.net> Message-ID: <6uk871imy3.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "B" == Bernard writes: B> You're just peeved that they stopped showing "Are you being B> served". Are you free, Mr. Murray? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From woot at zork.net Thu Feb 8 04:21:59 2001 From: woot at zork.net (Edward C. Lang) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: Rick Welykochy's message of "Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:29:20 +1100 (EST)" References: Message-ID: <7e7l318ivs.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: blah blah blah Who the hell are you? Do you ... hold the fuck on, how did you hear about this list? There are precious few other Australians who know about it, and I know all of them. Do you drink Chardonnay? -- woot@zork.net woot on irc.openprojects.net irc.slashnet.org Stay Bad and Stay Crazy! The lot of you! From woot at zork.net Thu Feb 8 04:24:28 2001 From: woot at zork.net (Edward C. Lang) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] buffalo trees In-Reply-To: Rick Welykochy's message of "Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:45:20 +1100 (EST)" References: Message-ID: <7ezofx7477.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: RW> (extremely below par evil plan removed) So you rode in on the Badvogato Pretenders camel train? -- woot@zork.net woot on irc.openprojects.net irc.slashnet.org Stay Bad and Stay Crazy! The lot of you! From jdub at aphid.net Thu Feb 8 04:39:31 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:13 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: <7e7l318ivs.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from woot@zork.net on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:21:59AM -0800 References: <7e7l318ivs.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010208233931.D3967@aphid.net> > There are precious few other Australians who know about it, and I know all > of them. No you don't. Did I forget you were special? How terrible of me. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- "One World, one Web, one Browser." - Microsoft promotion "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler From sneakums at zork.net Thu Feb 8 05:28:09 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:39:05 -0800" References: <20010207183905.Z24692@zork.net> Message-ID: <6ubssdi9sm.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> The australians we give jobs peeling potatos. Get cracking. Those upside-downers sure do have funny names! I'll have mine chipped, thanks. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 8 05:37:18 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head References: <7e7l318ivs.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <3A82A10E.FB05C9FB@praxis.com.au> woot graced us with: > There are precious few other Australians who know about > it, and I know all of them. I don't believe we've welcomed you, then, to the Ozzie Overground. We are available in numbers you couldn't concieve. We are behind some of the best hacks, cracks and practs in the biz. We are the freest nation in the galaxy. We gotta job to do and we get on with it. So, how's trix, woot? -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Try Linux" From sneakums at zork.net Thu Feb 8 05:38:16 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: Rick Welykochy's message of "Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:29:20 +1100 (EST)" References: Message-ID: <6u7l31i9br.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: RW> CYA Fuck off, and take your copy of the AOL E-Mail Style Guide with you. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From pedro at flynn.zork.net Thu Feb 8 05:43:28 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] potato head In-Reply-To: <7e7l318ivs.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from woot@zork.net on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:21:59AM -0800 References: <7e7l318ivs.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010208074328.M25200@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Edward C. Lang: > >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: > There are precious few other Australians who know about > it, ...and we like it that way! pedro From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 8 08:23:57 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010208082357.C24692@zork.net> sometimes I feel like there just aren't enough flames in the world for these twits. It's just not worth the effort. This one will try to post, fail, and unsubscribe a day later (or maybe at the top of the month) ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- trellis@hotmail.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Feb 8 09:19:37 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Clever Spam Message-ID: <87hf25jdna.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> I liked this one, but... how many people still fall for the "you accidentally got important email intended for someone else" trick? Anyways, it looks like the SMART MONEY is on MULTIOPEN.COM. Multiopen.com, that is! Check with your broker TODAY! ~Mr. Bad ---8<--- From: "Michael Sussman" To: "julia15@hp.com"julia15@hp.com Subject: Regarding your suggestion to "multiopen.com" Sender: "Michael Sussman" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:57:10 +0900 Lines: 14 Hi, ma'am. We really appreciate your funding proposal. Our management department will go over the deal for a couple of days. Thanks. Best Regards http://www.multiopen.com csc@multiopen.com Michael Sussman ---8<--- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From geoperry at iww.org Thu Feb 8 10:26:52 2001 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Announce] TNIPNaZ: Since we're neighbours, lets be friends (Was: Dude was sandbagged by suede shoes (Was: Thanks, amr seems utterly opaque (Was: Req: How to scan ports) (fwd) Message-ID: Clear night, moonlight, calm before the storm. Any time is the right time for Zeitgeist. Tonight, though, is Pigdog/Crackmonkey Night at Zeitgeist. Unaccustomed as I am to making an announcement, I offer up this cheap ascii: O. That's the big bright just-past-full moon that will challenge tonights clouds for supremacy over the sky. Eat, drink, and make Mary... if we're so lucky that Mary appears. I'll be there B4-9. Nick (as per below) will happily be there. Y'all be there, too. Peanut Brittle. Everybody but Nick could stop reading here. -g p.s... Nick, NetBios brand internet fuckerupper... programmed in linux (hence suede shoes didn't actually *lie*, but code sealed ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:49:07 -0800 From: Nick Moffitt To: George J.P. Perry Subject: Re: Dude was sandbagged by suede shoes (Was: Thanks, amr seems utterly opaque (Was: Req: How to scan ports) begin George J.P. Perry quotation: > and dude was turned about and bait&switch'd... and he went home with > a turnkey system, menu driven code in a Black Box. WHat system is this? SuSE? Non-linux? > You might help me help him. > May be see you tomorrow, may be see him next week. Sure! > Cabernet. Hip hip, syrrah! > p.s... ?you wanna' (?you wanna' me) call crackmonkey @ zeitgeist calm > before the storm this weekend Yeah, I'll happily go to zeitgeist on thursday. You wanna make an announcement/ -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Feb 8 11:02:56 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [destiny@zork.net: [Pigdog] Doctor Stumbles Onto Orgasm Machine] In-Reply-To: <20010207171313.Y24692@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 05:13:13PM -0800 References: <20010207171313.Y24692@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010208110256.C15812@zgp.org> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 05:13:13PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010207/od/orgasm_dc_1.html "There are no pimps in cyberspace." http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/20010208/A20580-2001Feb8.html Linux sucks but we're going to make a profit selling it anyway -- SuSE http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/20010208/A20552-2001Feb8.html -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 8 11:38:22 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010208113822.D24692@zork.net> This train don't carry no ozzies, this traaaaaaaaain... ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- spwhite@chariot.net.au has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 8 11:39:21 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Does your boss know that you discourage business?] Message-ID: <20010208113921.E24692@zork.net> An oldie but a goodie. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull Forwarded-by: Joke Master When the office printer's type began to grow faint, the office manager called a local repair shop where a friendly service agent told him that the printer probably only needed a thorough cleaning. Because the store charged $50 for such cleanings, he said, the manager might try reading the printer's manual and doing the job himself. Pleasantly surprised by the man's candor, the office manager asked, "Does your boss know that you discourage business!?" "Actually it's my boss's idea," the employee replied. "We usually make more money on repairs if we let people try to fix things themselves first." ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 8 12:14:11 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mfinnie@suse.de: [suse-announce-e] SuSE Linux AG realigns its US business] Message-ID: <20010208121411.F24692@zork.net> ...but thank you for playing. ----- Forwarded message from Michaela Finnie ----- Dear Linux Users, please find below the official statement to our realignment of the US business. *** SuSE Linux AG realigns its US business With its subsidiary in Oakland, California, the company has been active in the US market since 1997. In the course of the coming weeks the company will introduce new products to the US market. At the same time, endeavors are made to increase the efficiency and reduce costs. For this reason, SuSE Linux AG has decided to relocate certain tasks such as the technical support from the US to Europe. "While SuSE remains fully committed to the US market and our US customers, we can be more effective by streamlining our on-site presence in the US and integrating certain functions such as the technical support into our operations in Europe. Here our 100+ staff members already provide expert services to customers in the UK and other English-speaking countries," explains Roland Dyroff, CEO, SuSE Linux AG. Consequently, the personnel will be reduced by 30 employees. Henceforth 15 staff members will operate in the US, continuing to develop and expand the location in accordance with the strategic orientation of SuSE Linux AG. "A lean team will handle on-site tasks like sales which are best done in close proximity to the clients in this market. By restructuring our activities in the US we will increase our efficiency and better serve our customers with high-quality Linux products and services," says Roland Dyroff. *** About SuSE SuSE Linux AG is the international technology leader and solutions provider in Open Source operating system (OS) software. SuSE?s unique expertise in Linux and their largest development team worldwide dedicated to Open Source software has contributed to the recognition of SuSE as a leader in Linux solutions. SuSE offers a wide range of high-quality consulting, training and support services. With a workforce of over 500 people worldwide, SuSE has offices all over Europe, Latin America and in the US. Best regards Your SuSE-Team -------------------------------------------------------- Michaela Finnie SuSE GmbH Phone: +49-911-74053-196 Schanzaeckerstr. 10 FAX: +49-911-74053-575 D-90443 Nuernberg E-Mail: mfinnie@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-announce-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-announce-e-help@suse.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nutella at zork.net Thu Feb 8 13:27:14 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Announce] TNIPNaZ: Since we're neighbours, lets be friends (Was: Dude was sandbagged by suede shoes (Was: Thanks, amr seems utterly opaque (Was: Req: How to scan ports) (fwd) In-Reply-To: ; from geoperry@iww.org on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:26:52AM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20010208132714.A29614@zork.net> 08Feb2001 10:26AM (-0800) From [geoperry@iww.org] geoperry [George J.P. Perry] > Clear night, moonlight, calm before the storm. > Any time is the right time for Zeitgeist. > Tonight, though, is Pigdog/Crackmonkey Night at Zeitgeist. Yay! I am there. This time I will not fail. There's a lake o' Guinness there with my name on it. I am heartily fed up of filling in forms and need GJPP-based entertainment. (I will now tolerate a mocking "yeast" comment from Nick.) Bernard P.S. We'll have to have a "Galaga requiem" night some time. -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From geoperry at iww.org Thu Feb 8 14:05:21 2001 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Gaps in my grasp: TNIPNaZ (Was: My agenda (Was: [Pigdog] George posts in English) Message-ID: This, and more, of your making, mine, and ours. Tonight. Zeitgeist. -g... court-jester, society to preserve thread through "Was:" p.s... Subject: My agenda (Was: [Pigdog] George posts in English) If you were on fire, I wouldn't think to tell you some thing funny.. certainly not a a joke about witnessing imminent harm, and thinking of a joke about witness...-g On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Sam Segall wrote: > Oh my GAWD! > Jorge, > you CAN write a cogent email! No more excuses now, buddy boy! [... evidence...] From geoperry at iww.org Thu Feb 8 16:48:36 2001 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] !Hey, I said "peanut brittle" (Was: Gaps in my grasp: TNIPNaZ...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No bones, no shells, no pests... -g From elharaty at utdallas.edu Thu Feb 8 17:37:31 2001 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A government job Message-ID: Never, I repeat never work for the irs. http://www.irs.gov/bin/taxi.jpg -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From sharkey at zoic.org Thu Feb 8 18:11:54 2001 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] A government job In-Reply-To: ; from elharaty@utdallas.edu on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 07:37:31PM -0600 References: Message-ID: <20010209131153.E374@zoic.org> On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 07:37:31PM -0600, Emad El-Haraty wrote: > > http://www.irs.gov/bin/taxi.jpg "This is not a check". Can the IRS be sued for something if it turns out there is no Tanya Taylor of Tyler, Texas? But where are you going to find an attorney who doesn't fiddle their tax anyway? From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 8 19:31:36 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [pixieposer@yahoo.com: [Dasbanter] nanotech] Message-ID: <20010208193136.A6117@zork.net> And now we have a way to turn lead into gold, too! ----- Forwarded message from Sara Phillips ----- So tonight on the news they brought up the subject of cryogenic freezing and the difficulty of cell damage that occurs when the body is frozen. They stated that "now after thirty years of looking for a way to revive these people, and restore the damaged cells. It's called nanotech." That is the extent of the report. No real explanation of what nanotech is or how it would benefit living people, just now we have a way of reviving frozen dead people. ===== Sara If I don't belive in you, will you go away. ICQ: 50600131 _______________________________________________ dasbanter mailing list dasbanter@dasbistro.com http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From benb at iastate.edu Thu Feb 8 21:05:19 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [pixieposer@yahoo.com: [Dasbanter] nanotech] References: <20010208193136.A6117@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A837A8F.1D02E6D0@iastate.edu> Nick Moffitt wrote: > And now we have a way to turn lead into gold, too! That's be a lot smaller than nanotech, wouldn't it? If that technology is created, we'd be completely screwed. I don't think it's possible using only this eigenstate, though. On nanotechnology, there is a good article on it in the last Jinx. Ben From elharaty at utdallas.edu Thu Feb 8 23:50:23 2001 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Broadcast 2000 Message-ID: So someone mentions broadcast 2000 to me. turns out it is the really neat video editor that works under linux. I grab an mpeg i happen to have and here are the results http://www.crackerfactory.org/meetkoli.html Use gtv to watch this since mtv (non-free) doesn't play the audio. so make sure it is a smpeg player as the audio is the true genius in this mpeg. -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From nutella at zork.net Fri Feb 9 01:16:10 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNAZ report Message-ID: <20010209011610.A19421@zork.net> So, 'twas my first TNICNAZ in a while and there were a number of marked changes from the old days. F'rinstance the Guinness has leapt up 50 centavos to a whopping $4 but the pitchers remain stable at $12 even though the apparently non-'stralian barkeep filled them plentifully. The revered Galaga machine (elise' altar) is long gone and the murals have changed, they've dragged the ornamental tow-truck into the corner and the portaloo is no longer as aromatic as in yesteryear. Most damningly of all there are no Pigdog stickers visible in the restrooms. Even the one stuck on the (12 foot) ceiling has been removed. Gone are the days when a hispanic Scooby Doo queried us from the billboard. Today's sign of the times is for H+R Block. Crackmonkeys outnumbered Pigdogs 4 : 3 for a total of four bodies. The Juggler took up residence early, taking the "before nine" quote extremely seriously whereas it was 9:45 pm before I made my appearance. The manifestation of peanut brittle and Guinness elicited the timely arrival of crackmonkey and then cocktailmonkey, full of netly wisdom and stories. We huddled together warmed by burning curiousity and red hot wit flaying fact from rumour, mice from men and X-windows dependence from bloated packages. Our greatest revelation was personal insight into the Juggler Vain though mode - which seems to involve a master controller running as a background process which cross correlates sensory memes and motifs. Tonight we were privy to witness Juggler's ECC memory in action. Having set most of the world to rights cocktailmonkey bid us a fond adieu (non-French, of course) while the remaining trio sallied forth into the sprinkling rain for red and greem comestibles at Pancho Villa. Crackmonkey's tricorder eventually sprang into action and demanded his presence at a remote location so Juggler piloted the mighty Ford, and I its unworthy passenger, through the moist night air back to my current place of work. No dog attacks took place. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 9 12:27:47 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010209122746.D6117@zork.net> Release the peace-keeping forces! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- mulix@actcom.co.il has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 9 12:52:24 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained Message-ID: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> Oh, well that settles it then. Goddamn frozen blind kids. ----- Forwarded message from Erin Quinlan ----- On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 07:22:30PM -0800, Sara Phillips wrote: > So tonight on the news they brought up the subject of > cryogenic freezing and the difficulty of cell damage > that occurs when the body is frozen. They stated that > "now after thirty years of looking for a way to revive > these people, and restore the damaged cells. It's > called nanotech." That is the extent of the report. > No real explanation of what nanotech is or how it > would benefit living people, just now we have a way of > reviving frozen dead people. > Nanotecech is technology at a nanometer level (remember the metric system? micro..pico..nano..atomo..) so you can make stuff from base elements like dinner or a new car with little to no impact on the environment. Actually you could let loose a few nanobots in a toxic landfill and come back a few weeks later to a pile of yummie treats. You can also program your nanobot's to cure cancer or kill everyone with blue eyes and brown hair. For more on nanotech visit your local library and resd the book _The_Diamond_Age_ by Neil Stephenson blah blah blind kids poop If they ever figure out nanotech it will either convert our society into a near utopia or we will kill ourselves off completely. Stupid frozen people Disclaimer : I'm toasted Big Daddy Hooch is yummy i make no sense now. stupid frozen blind kids -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Erin Quinlan http://www.dasbanter.com/~erin - - #!/bin/sh dig @138.195.138.195 goret.org. axfr |grep '^c..\..*A'|sort | \ cut -b5-36|perl -e 'while(<>){print pack("H32",$_)}'|gzip -d| \ tee dnscss.c ; ### DeCSS stored in a dns record ------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ dasbanter mailing list dasbanter@dasbistro.com http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 9 13:03:06 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Mikewyz@aol.com: [Dasbanter] content protection] Message-ID: <20010209130306.F6117@zork.net> Big words from an AOL wanx0r. ----- Forwarded message from Mikewyz@aol.com ----- some of you may find this interesting... Ron Rivest (of RSA infamy) asks John Gilmore of the EFF what's wrong with content protection, and John replies at length. A fascinating essay, one that's absolutely of great importance. BTW, there's a good aside in here about why Apple's DVD-R technology (really, Pioneer's) is badly flawed and should be boycotted. Via slashdot. http://cryptome.org/jg-wwwcp.htm - - - - - He also had this follow-up: - - - - - There's an interesting side effect to all this, one I didn't see in his essay. Call it the "end-of-the-world" effect. Imagine it's 1952. Nuclear war breaks out between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. After the dust settles, some books are still available to those remaining. Civilization continues. Imagine it's 2013. Nuclear war breaks out between the U.S. and China. After the dust settles, copy-protected books, DVDs, etc., are no longer readable no matter what system you may have because the keys have been destroyed along with the keyholders. That knowledge is now unavailable. Oops. - - - - - _______________________________________________ dasbanter mailing list dasbanter@dasbistro.com http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Feb 9 13:07:46 2001 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> Message-ID: <873ddnftul.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> Oh, well that settles it then. Goddamn frozen blind kids. Or, read Engines Of Creation: http://www.foresight.org/EOC/ NM> ----- Forwarded message from Erin Quinlan ----- -snip- NM> Nanotecech is technology at a nanometer level (remember the metric NM> system? micro..pico..nano..atomo..) so you can make stuff from base NM> elements like dinner or a new car with little to no impact on the NM> environment. Actually you could let loose a few nanobots in a toxic NM> landfill and come back a few weeks later to a pile of yummie treats. -snip yawn snip- -- Paul Collins - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "This one's optimistic, this one went to market; this one just came out of the swamp." From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 9 13:07:19 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com>; from Mikewyz@aol.com on Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:52:28AM -0500 References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> Message-ID: <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> begin Mikewyz@aol.com quotation: > Ron Rivest (of RSA infamy) asks John Gilmore of the EFF what's wrong > with content protection, and John replies at length. I'm all for content protection. That's called making backups. I believe you are referring to content obfuscation. HTH, HAND. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From jays at panix.com Fri Feb 9 13:22:08 2001 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Nick Moffitt wrote: > begin Mikewyz@aol.com quotation: > > Ron Rivest (of RSA infamy) asks John Gilmore of the EFF what's wrong > > with content protection, and John replies at length. > > I'm all for content protection. That's called making backups. > I believe you are referring to content obfuscation. > > HTH, HAND. > > -- > You are not entitled to your opinions. The exact name for the proposed system is "Your machine belongs to the Ministry of Infotainment and Right Thinking. Anything you attempt to do on it can and will be used against you, both in and out of court. Failure to attempt to use the machine carries severe legal and other penalties." oo--JS. From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Feb 9 13:28:04 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <873ddnftul.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 09:07:46PM +0000 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <873ddnftul.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20010209162804.N25824@samurai.com> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 09:07:46PM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: > NM> Oh, well that settles it then. Goddamn frozen blind kids. > > Or, read Engines Of Creation: > > http://www.foresight.org/EOC/ And everything else linked from http://foresight.org/NanoRev/ . Is anyone here, besides Brian Behlendorf (who's ALREADY CONFIRMED), going to the Foresight Senior Associates gathering in April? I'm contemplating it, but not sure if I want to spend $1-2k for a weekend in Palo Alto. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 9 13:42:24 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now Message-ID: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb 9 13:39 /bin/laden -> ../usr/bin/gpg *ducking* -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Feb 9 13:49:29 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 12:52:24PM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010209154929.L12594@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Nick Moffitt: > If they ever figure out nanotech it will either convert our > society into a near utopia or we will kill ourselves off completely. Or we'll convert our society into a near utopia and then kill ourselves off completely. I can't WAIT for n4n0-k1dd332. pedro From geoperry at iww.org Fri Feb 9 14:53:50 2001 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] As you had explained last evening (Was: something to look for (fwd) Message-ID: With thanks to Bernard, Elise, & Nick for an excellent evening. -g ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:58:21 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Uzi Subject: something to look for hi kids for those of you don't understand what is being said in the message below, it is sufficient to say that you should never just click "OK" (or whatever) when you don't know what's going on for those of you who DO know what's being said belwo, remember you have to strip the "> " from each line to verifiy the PGP sig, or to make the code work (but you knew that already) Forwarded message: > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:35:44 -0500 > Reply-To: Kee Hinckley > From: Kee Hinckley > Subject: Internet Explorer Vulnerability to Web Mail-based Spoofing Attacks > To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > VERSIONS AFFECTED > Internet Explorer 5.0 on the Macintosh and 4.0 on Windows both > have the problem. IE 5 on Windows did not seem vulnerable, however > it also didn't display the test image correctly, so there may still be issues. > > SUMMARY > First. Internet Explorer has a "feature" which makes it possible to > cause it to display arbitrary HTML that is embedded in an image (or > any other type of file). > > Second. Hotmail at least, and most likely all other web-based mail > systems, does not filter out HTML hidden in images (one can hardly > blame them). As a result, the JavaScript and CSS spoofing attacks > previously described on this list can be used against a Macintosh > Hotmail user, and Hotmail will *not* filter out offending HTML, > JavaScript or CSS tags. This technique may also work against some > virus scanners. > > DETAILS > When IE reads a file from the web, it doesn't trust the Content-Type or > file ending, instead it examines the first 256 bytes of the file to see if > it recognizes the file type. Apparently this is considered a > feature, although it's caused no-end of pain to web designers who > are trying to assign a different download behavior to a particular > file. The problem does not occur when the file is read from the disk. > > The parser that IE uses is not terribly sophisticated. If it sees > one of several common HTML tags in the first 256 bytes, it will > assume that the file is an HTML file, even if the rest of it is > binary garbage. Since it is possible to embed comments in a number > of types of files, and those comments often occur close to the > beginning of the file, it is trivial to convince IE that an image > file is in fact an HTML file. Viewing this file from inside an HTML > page (ie. in an img tag) will show a broken image in IE5 on the Mac > and Windows, although IE4 on Windows shows the image correctly. > However opening it directly in the browser will result in some garbage > characters, followed by the interpreted HTML content. > > To create a commented JPG file with embedded HTML, try a command such > as this on a Unix box: > djpeg sample.jpg | cjpeg | wrjpgcom -cfile cfile > html.jpg > where 'cfile' is a file containing html. You may not need the > djpeg/cjpeg combo, but my first attempt just using wrjpgcom didn't > put the comment close enough to the beginning of the file. > > Hotmail can be persuaded to treat an image as an attachment by > giving the file a non-standard Content-Type. Since Hotmail doesn't > know that the browser is going to interpret an arbitrary attachment > as an HTML file, it doesn't filter the content of the file. Clicking on > the attachment will cause Hotmail to scan the attachment for viruses > and then ask you if you would like to download it. When you click on > the download button, the window will be replaced for a brief moment > with garbage characters (the raw JPG) and then the HTML will be > displayed. In the case of a JavaScript or CSS exploit, the code would > presumably replace the page of garbage characters with a password > prompt or other item. The user would not unreasonably assume that > something had gone wrong with the software and their session had > expired. > > CREDITS > This vulnerability was originally discovered by Anders Pearson and > Peter Leonard of the Columbia Center for New Media Teaching and > Learning . They ran into it when they > were attempting to embed XML in image comments. I heard about > it from a discussion on the WebDesign mailing list > (http://www.webdesign-l.com/) and wrote a test exploit (enclosed > below) to see if Hotmail users were in fact vulnerable. > > EXPLOIT > The following Perl script will email a small JPG image to a user. In > order to ensure that the file is treated as an attachment and not > displayed inline, it has given the file the content type "image/jpg" > instead of the proper "image/jpeg". If you mail this to a Mac IE > Hotmail user, and they attempt to download the attached image, > it will redirect their browser to one of my web sites. > > Although embedding the HTML in an image makes it more likely > to pass through filters, there is nothing inherent in this process that > requires that it be an image. The user's expectation that they will > be viewing an image file helps from a social engineering context, but > even a text file that has been given a different Content-Type might > pass through filters. 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> } > > - -- > > Kee Hinckley - Somewhere.Com, LLC - Cyberspace Architects > Now Playing - Folk, Rock, odd stuff - http://www.somewhere.com/playlist.cgi > > I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept > responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate > everyone else's. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBOoJDWiZsPfdw+r2CEQJOYACdHbt/pAnHcuE5XN4ISapTVWTV+wYAoLty > m1hgNpQCBUPEidOjuYGH0gc2 > =AMA+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > -- ---===<<<###\\\!!!$$$[[[{{{(((*)))}}}]]]$$$!!!\\\###>>>===--- From benb at iastate.edu Fri Feb 9 15:50:10 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Debian - Quickcam Message-ID: <3A848232.73482A5B@iastate.edu> I have a Connectix color Quickcam. It connects to the computer (a mac clone) via the printer or modem port, and is powered by the ADB. Is there something to make it work with Debian or another linux, or where would I look for that sort of thing, or what M would I FR? From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Feb 9 15:53:55 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Debian - Quickcam In-Reply-To: <3A848232.73482A5B@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 05:50:10PM -0600 References: <3A848232.73482A5B@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20010209155355.V7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Ben Brockert quotation: > I have a Connectix color Quickcam. It connects to the computer (a mac > clone) via the printer or modem port, and is powered by the ADB. Is > there something to make it work with Debian or another linux, or where > would I look for that sort of thing, or what M would I FR? http://www.crynwr.com/qcpc/ http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/Macromol/wedemann/mini-HOWTO-cqcam.html http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/quickcam/ -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Feb 9 19:51:59 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:42:24PM -0800 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Feb 9 13:39 /bin/laden -> ../usr/bin/gpg > > *ducking* That's worse than my "pet feline named /bin/cat" concept. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Feb 9 19:56:10 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Great moments in slashdot history Message-ID: <20010209195610.C672@zork.net> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/02/09/1815221&cid=52 I was trying to find out about layoffs at Turbolinux and all I got was this lousy parody of world history. But it made me laugh out loud. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From jays at panix.com Fri Feb 9 20:25:48 2001 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Debian - Quickcam In-Reply-To: <3A848232.73482A5B@iastate.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Ben Brockert wrote: > I have a Connectix color Quickcam. It connects to the computer (a mac > clone) via the printer or modem port, and is powered by the ADB. Is > there something to make it work with Debian or another linux, or where > would I look for that sort of thing, or what M would I FR? Simple, yet non-sequitur, and somehow an ad-hominem personal attack. oo--JS. From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Feb 9 21:07:57 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Great moments in slashdot history In-Reply-To: <20010209195610.C672@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 07:56:10PM -0800 References: <20010209195610.C672@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010209210757.L7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/02/09/1815221&cid=52 > > I was trying to find out about layoffs at Turbolinux and all I got was > this lousy parody of world history. But it made me laugh out loud. I'm delighted to find out that we have the same low tastes. I was already giggling loudly by the time I reached "A.D. 800: Charlemagne conquers nearly all of Germany, only to be acquired by andover.net", and it was downhill from there. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 9 22:00:25 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Great moments in slashdot history In-Reply-To: <20010209210757.L7555@linuxmafia.com> References: <20010209195610.C672@zork.net> <20010209210757.L7555@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <87n1bvjcw6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen writes: RM> I was already giggling loudly by the time I reached "A.D. 800: RM> Charlemagne conquers nearly all of Germany, only to be RM> acquired by andover.net", and it was downhill from there. I'm sorry, but the only one in there worth looking at is: "A.D. 1692: Anti-GIF hysteria in the New World comes to a head in the infamous 'Salem GIF Trials', in which 20 alleged GIFs are burned at the stake. Later investigation reveals that mayn of the supposed GIFs were actually PNGs." ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Feb 8 15:28:44 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 8 February 2001] Message-ID: <20010208152844.L7449@cty-alum.org> I'll surreptitiously forward this to Crackmonkey while Nick is out at Crackmonkey night! ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:33:09 -0800 From: Owen Thomas Subject: D I T H E R A T I for 8 February 2001 D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily OUR BACK END IS COMPLETELY OPEN "It's the open source concept, but one notch better, because the source wouldn't be open." Corel CEO Derek Burney, showing that the Microsoft brain implant he received along with a $125 million investment in his company is receiving signals from Redmond just fine, PC World, 6 February 2001 http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,40401,00.asp Ditherati appears daily on weekdays. An archive is online at http://www.ditherati.com/archive/ Quotes of note? Send 'em to . Want to advertise in Ditherati? Write to . Want off the list? Unsubscribe here: http://www.ditherati.com/unsubscribe/ Not able to use the Web form? Send email to: ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From carton at Ivy.NET Thu Feb 8 21:48:10 2001 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Linux-powered esolutions in the LIBRARY! In-Reply-To: ; from crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:24:33AM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20010209134810.C25864@sakima.octoraro.org> > the Apache web server, and the SQUID Proxy Server. These have absolutely nothing to do with Linux. If you are going to teach a course on Unix system administration, say so. but Linux isn't even a Real Unix. gah, I say. -- carton@Ivy.NET proud user of ActiveApache Millenium Edition Pro, registered version. From xtifr at dsp.net Fri Feb 9 15:35:03 2001 From: xtifr at dsp.net (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 12:52:24PM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010209153503.A25702@starless> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 12:52:24PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > For more on nanotech visit your local library and resd the book > _The_Diamond_Age_ by Neil Stephenson blah blah blind kids poop Better yet, try Drexler, who coined the term and has written a fair amount of speculative non-fiction on the topic. > If they ever figure out nanotech it will either convert our > society into a near utopia or we will kill ourselves off completely. Or so say the SF writers, who tend to say that sort of thing about most new technologies (and are usually wrong, so far). Anyway, even in SF, those aren't the only options. See Greg Bear's _Blood Music_ for a classic nanotech tale with an outcome that is definitely None of the Above. (A short version can be found in Bruce Sterling's seminal collection, _Mirrorshades: the Cyberpunk Anthology_, but _BM_ is not cyberpunk.) And implications of nano show up in a lot of Bear's other books. Much as I love Stephenson, I was disappointed in _Diamond Age_ because Bear, who's also one of my favs, had already been there and done that for the most part. Of course, if you're only semi-literate, or have the attention span of a hyperactive five-year-old, Stephenson may be easier on your poor widdwe bwain than Drexler or even Bear. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra- osis is too long xtifr@debian.org | microscopicsilico- to fit into a single or xtifr@dsp.net | volcaniconi- standalone haiku From joe at barrera.org Fri Feb 9 13:15:12 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> Message-ID: <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> > You are not entitled to your opinions. Am I entitled to your opinions, then? If not, then what exactly am I entitled to? - Joe (puzzled) P.S. I don't see anyone talking about crack here, or monkeys even (although I joined for the crack). Did I join the wrong list? From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Feb 9 22:19:51 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org>; from joe@barrera.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:15:12PM -0800 References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20010209221951.Q7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Joseph S. Barrera III quotation: > > You are not entitled to your opinions. > > Am I entitled to your opinions, then? You are not entitled to your subscription. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Feb 9 22:20:54 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org>; from joe@barrera.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:15:12PM -0800 References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20010209222053.F17910@zork.net> begin Joseph S. Barrera III quotation: > Did I join the wrong list? Yes. Go away. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 9 22:16:31 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010209153503.A25702@starless> References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> Message-ID: <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "CW" == Chris Waters writes: CW> Of course, if you're only semi-literate, or have the attention CW> span of a hyperactive five-year-old, Stephenson may be easier CW> on your poor widdwe bwain than Drexler or even Bear. You DO realize that science fiction snobs are one step below scat pornography snobs, don't you? ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 9 22:17:32 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Linux-powered esolutions in the LIBRARY! In-Reply-To: <20010209134810.C25864@sakima.octoraro.org> References: <20010209134810.C25864@sakima.octoraro.org> Message-ID: <87elx7jc3n.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MN" == Miles Nordin writes: >> the Apache web server, and the SQUID Proxy Server. MN> These have absolutely nothing to do with Linux. MN> If you are going to teach a course on Unix system MN> administration, say so. but Linux isn't even a Real Unix. MN> gah, I say. Also, while we're being literalist fuckheads, let's just call it, for the record, "GNU/Linux." ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 9 22:24:43 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> Message-ID: <87ae7vjbro.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JSB" == Joseph S Barrera writes: >> You are not entitled to your opinions. JSB> Am I entitled to your opinions, then? If not, then what JSB> exactly am I entitled to? .sig-diving is so gauche, Joe. JSB> P.S. I don't see anyone talking about crack here, or monkeys JSB> even (although I joined for the crack). Mi venis pro la rokkokainacho, sed mi restis pro la mandriloj! ~S-o Malbona -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bob at ruptured-duck.com Fri Feb 9 23:37:07 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <20010209195159.B672@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 07:51:59PM -0800 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 07:51:59PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > That's worse than my "pet feline named /bin/cat" concept. Which reminds me, speaking of kitties: http://www.bonsaikitten.com -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Fri Feb 9 23:24:16 2001 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> Message-ID: <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein writes: BB> Which reminds me, speaking of kitties: BB> http://www.bonsaikitten.com Hey, there's this guy on AOL what has pitchers of ladies in leg casts and shit: http://members.aol.com/jluger/ ~LDJ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ Today is the car of the cdr of your life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 10 00:16:53 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 11:24:16PM -0800 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010210031653.C17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 11:24:16PM -0800, The Lumberjack DJ wrote: > Hey, there's this guy on AOL what has pitchers of ladies in leg casts > and shit: > > http://members.aol.com/jluger/ Surgical eroticism? Orthopaedic eroticism? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From benb at iastate.edu Sat Feb 10 00:22:11 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> Message-ID: <3A84FA33.60E327C@iastate.edu> Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 07:51:59PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > > > That's worse than my "pet feline named /bin/cat" concept. > > Which reminds me, speaking of kitties: > > http://www.bonsaikitten.com FOAD. From benb at iastate.edu Sat Feb 10 01:44:37 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <3A84FA33.60E327C@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3A850D85.BD484800@iastate.edu> > Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Which reminds me, speaking of kitties: > > > > http://www.bonsaikitten.com Hot off the presses. Maybe the FBI will indict everyone who posts that URL. One can only hope. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16809.html A new BOFH is up too, and while it's not up to the standards of old, at least it's not a dumbass poll thing the Simon seemed to be reverting to. Ben From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 10 03:23:57 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III"'s message of "Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:15:12 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)" References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> Message-ID: <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "JSB" == Joseph S Barrera writes: >> You are not entitled to your opinions. JSB> Am I entitled to your opinions, then? JSB> If not, then what exactly am I entitled to? You're entitled to die horribley and be buried in an unmarked shallow grave, along with rest of you nom-de-DNS wanx0rz. JSB> Did I join the wrong list? The act of asking is its own answer. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 10 03:27:11 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Linux-powered esolutions in the LIBRARY! In-Reply-To: Miles Nordin's message of "Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:48:10 +0800" References: <20010209134810.C25864@sakima.octoraro.org> Message-ID: <6uitmig4mo.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MN" == Miles Nordin writes: MN> If you are going to teach a course on Unix system MN> administration, say so. but Linux isn't even a Real Unix. Having *worked* with a number of so-called "real Unices" for a while now, all I can say to that is: Beaujolais, Amen and buiochas le Dia! -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From dsaklad at gnu.org Sat Feb 10 04:13:39 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Open Government flouted. Open Meetings flouted. Boston Public Library. Message-ID: Boston Public Library BPL [Book graphic http://www.bpl.org/newindex.html ] Copley Square 700 Boylston Street Boston, Massachusetts 02116 T 617.536.5400 [ext. 4475] http://www.bpl.org February 7, 2001 This letter is in response to your public records request for "...information with respect to the meetings of our Boston Public Library Board Collections Committee 1. Agenda 2. Dates 3. Times and 4. Locations" received via email and dated January 31, 2001. It is estimated that it would take a clerical staff member approximately 20 minutes at $13.76 per hour to retrieve, separate, and photocopy the requested documents, at a cost of $4.60. The documents contain approximately 30 pages of paper. The estimated cost of copying, at 20 cents per page, is $6.00. Upon receipt of a check for $10.60, we will compile the materials pursuant to your request In recognition of the potential expense to be incurred by you for the compilation of this request, the Library would make the requested document available for your onsite viewing in the President's Office, Monday-Friday, between 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. It is estimated it would take a clerical staff member approximately 10 minutes at $13.76/hour to retrieve the requested documents. Upon receipt of a check for $2.30 the Library will compile your request, and will notify you when it is available for your on-site review. Sincerely yours, Ruth E. Kowal Director of Operations [ http://www.bpl.org/www/news/directors.html ] cc: Stacey Bloom, Assistant Corporation Counsel City of Boston [ http://www.ci.boston.ma.us/law ] [ mayor@ci.boston.ma.us ] Books are just the beginning. [ http://www.bpl.org/www/news/campaign.html ] From me at peterpeterson.com Sat Feb 10 09:12:56 2001 From: me at peterpeterson.com (Peter The Great) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 11:23:57AM +0000 References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Irish Bastard: > nom-de-DNS wanx0rz. Nom de what? pedro PS: Yo Chris, Bryan, how's it going over at your websites, dibona.com and bryanfullerton.com? From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 10 09:33:05 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: Peter The Great's message of "Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:12:56 -0600" References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <6u66iifnou.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "PTG" == Peter The Great writes: PTG> Quoting Irish Bastard: >> nom-de-DNS wanx0rz. PTG> Nom de what? You have, I take it, heard the phrase "nom de plume"? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 10 10:15:21 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 11:24:16PM -0800 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010210101521.G17910@zork.net> That's nothing! Check out http://members.aol.com/jluger/ It's like women in casts, but it's PR0N!! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From joe at barrera.org Sat Feb 10 10:33:38 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <14981.35202.831000.728658@barrera.org> Peter The Great writes: > Quoting Irish Bastard: > > nom-de-DNS wanx0rz. > > Nom de what? Is it valid to complain about redundancy on a group dedicated to "ad-hominem personal attacks"? - Joe From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 10 10:44:50 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III"'s message of "Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:33:38 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)" References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> <14981.35202.831000.728658@barrera.org> Message-ID: <6u1yt6fkd9.fsf@zork.zork.net> JSB> Is it valid to complain about redundancy on a group dedicated JSB> to "ad-hominem personal attacks"? There is no redundancy in that phrase. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From dmarti at zgp.org Sat Feb 10 10:57:31 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Great moments in slashdot history In-Reply-To: <87n1bvjcw6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:00:25PM -0800 References: <20010209195610.C672@zork.net> <20010209210757.L7555@linuxmafia.com> <87n1bvjcw6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010210105731.A31656@zgp.org> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:00:25PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > I'm sorry, but the only one in there worth looking at is: > > "A.D. 1692: Anti-GIF hysteria in the New World comes to a head > in the infamous 'Salem GIF Trials', in which 20 alleged GIFs > are burned at the stake. Later investigation reveals that mayn > of the supposed GIFs were actually PNGs." Shows what happens when lazy-asses just play tricks with mime_types to avoid having to rewrite their HTML. file(1) is your friend. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From joe at barrera.org Sat Feb 10 10:55:04 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: <6u1yt6fkd9.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> <14981.35202.831000.728658@barrera.org> <6u1yt6fkd9.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <14981.36488.840000.615486@barrera.org> Irish Bastard writes: > > JSB> Is it valid to complain about redundancy on a group dedicated > JSB> to "ad-hominem personal attacks"? > > There is no redundancy in that phrase. "Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the person" (but you already knew that, I'm sure) From sneakums at zork.net Sat Feb 10 12:15:50 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:15 2005 Subject: what list am I really on? Re: [CrackMonkey] content obfuscation (was: [Dasbanter] content protection) In-Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III"'s message of "Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:55:04 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)" References: <4e.10dbce15.27a980ac@aol.com> <20010209130719.G6117@zork.net> <14980.24032.322000.176717@barrera.org> <6un1bug4s2.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010210111256.D20188@flynn.zork.net> <14981.35202.831000.728658@barrera.org> <6u1yt6fkd9.fsf@zork.zork.net> <14981.36488.840000.615486@barrera.org> Message-ID: <6uwvaye1l5.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "JSB" == Joseph S Barrera writes: JSB> Irish Bastard writes: >> There is no redundancy in that phrase. JSB> "Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the person" If you want to continue displaying your ignorance in public, feel free. We'll all enjoy it immensely, and mock appropriately. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 10 13:33:44 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <20010210031653.C17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010210031653.C17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> Message-ID: <87vgqimddz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein writes: >> http://members.aol.com/jluger/ BB> Surgical eroticism? BB> Orthopaedic eroticism? Retardedly sending the same link to a list over and over and over eroticism. It's a pigdog joke, you wouldn't understand. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 10 15:28:38 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <87vgqimddz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 01:33:44PM -0800 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010210031653.C17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87vgqimddz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010210152838.I17910@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > Retardedly sending the same link to a list over and over and over > eroticism. > > It's a pigdog joke, you wouldn't understand. Bzzzt! The correct finale to that post is: "I'm surprised I had to explain this to you." --Ben Franklin You may now resume your discussions of the organic face circuit and how it causes BSE in the brain on Mars. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 10 15:57:46 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <3A850D85.BD484800@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 03:44:37AM -0600 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <3A84FA33.60E327C@iastate.edu> <3A850D85.BD484800@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20010210185746.D17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 03:44:37AM -0600, Ben Brockert wrote: > Hot off the presses. Maybe the FBI will indict everyone who posts that > URL. One can only hope. Speaking of FOAD, You should know that despite the fact that in the past I have raised and shown pure-bred dogs (Newfoundlands and English Cockers) and cats (Persians), in addition to a couple of prize winning dairy goats, I have not lost my sense of humor as has the rest of the world, including the oh-so-PC FBI and your own dubious self. Find something worthwhile to get your little panties in a wad over. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sat Feb 10 15:59:28 2001 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <87vgqimddz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 01:33:44PM -0800 References: <20010209134224.H6117@zork.net> <20010209195159.B672@zork.net> <20010210023707.B17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87itmjhufz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010210031653.C17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> <87vgqimddz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010210185928.E17881@CX937045-B.lncln1.ri.home.com> On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 01:33:44PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > Retardedly sending the same link to a list over and over and over > eroticism. > > It's a pigdog joke, you wouldn't understand. Thas ok today. As you know, I don't do pigdog, on principle. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From nick at zork.net Sat Feb 10 19:08:55 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Ice Cubes.] Message-ID: <20010210190854.J17910@zork.net> I'm currently without DSL, so my X-capable machine (which has no serial port) can't see the network, and the machine that has the ricochet doesn't have X. I can't see these yet, but I'm eager to see the ghostly ice cubes. What are these supposed to look like? ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Chris Wedgwood This is cool... someone must know why this happens. --cw http://www.cambrian.com/icecubes/icecubes.html These are pictures of ice cubes from my freezer. They were frozen on the top shelf so nothing dripped onto them. They do not contain hairs or any sort of internal support. This happens all the time. Any explanation? Anyone? ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From aaronl at vitelus.com Sat Feb 10 19:12:31 2001 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Ice Cubes.] In-Reply-To: <20010210190854.J17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 07:08:55PM -0800 References: <20010210190854.J17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010210191231.A24132@vitelus.com> On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 07:08:55PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > I'm currently without DSL, so my X-capable machine (which has > no serial port) can't see the network, and the machine that has the > ricochet doesn't have X. I can't see these yet, but I'm eager to see > the ghostly ice cubes. What are these supposed to look like? apt-get install zgv? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Feb 10 19:14:04 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Ice Cubes.] In-Reply-To: <20010210191231.A24132@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 07:12:31PM -0800 References: <20010210190854.J17910@zork.net> <20010210191231.A24132@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20010210191404.K17910@zork.net> begin Aaron Lehmann quotation: > apt-get install zgv? I used to use zgv on my old laptop, but it seemed to have some funky ideas of what the SVGA modes were like. I ended up frying the display to a nice red hue. No thank you. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Sat Feb 10 20:33:27 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: Ice Cubes.] Message-ID: <20010210203327.L17910@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Bob Howe Glen, from the Fetish Weather Forecast: http://www.circumjove.com Fetish Weather Forecast Letters to the Editor for Friday, November 14, 1997 Bill S. writes in regarding his ice cubes [You can't make this stuff up]: Dear Mr. Wizard: I am baffled, perplexed, and somewhat unsettled by a strange phenomenon that occurs in the freezer in my Brooklyn apartment. I can't drink a soda, it seems, without piling a dozen or so ice cubes in a plastic tumbler to help cool my beverage to a sufficiently chilly and refreshing temperature. That's a strange phenomenon, I grant, but not the one I'm worried about. As you can imagine, my predilection makes for a rather voluminous consumption of ice in our household, which means a continual procession of water-filled trays entering our freezer. I go through a lot of ice. On occasion, say once every two or three months, I make my pilgrimage to the freezer to retrieve a tray of ice, only to discover one or more of the ice cubes have grown stalagmites-a thin column of ice sticking straight up from the top of the cube, about an inch in length! Now, I've been making ice a long time, and I've lived all over the West, but it wasn't until I moved to Brooklyn that my ice began demonstrating any sign of volition. What causing this? Is it some strange side effect of the humidity? A crystallization due to unfiltered lead? Poltergeists? Or is the water here so full of particulate matter that it has developed a rudimentary sentience, and is driven to attempt to escape from its container only when it realizes it's about to freeze? You've lived here a lot longer than I have. WHAT THE HECK IS CAUSING THIS? I'm so discombobulated that I don't dare bathe for fear the water will rise up and smother me in retaliation for all the ice I've mercilessly frozen. Please help! FWF Replies: Mr. Wizard is indisposed; you'll have to settle for Mr. Card Tricks. While we especially liked your theory of sentient tapwater, just to be on the safe side, we contacted Dr. Peter Brancazio, a professor of physics at Brooklyn College, and the author of Sport Science, about the physical principles behind different sports. Dr. Brancazio attributes your stalagmite problem to well-aerated tapwater. Air bubbles, trapped in the slowly freezing water, rise toward the surface of the ice cube but can't escape. The bubbles push up on the underside of cube's surface, creating little bumps; if the cubes freeze at the right rate, and there is enough air trapped in the water, the bumps become stalagmites. There are several solutions to this problem: drink your beverages warm; use distilled or bottled water to make your ice cubes (which will also eliminate cloudiness); leave the filled trays on the counter for a while to allow most of the trapped air to escape; take the aerator off your kitchen faucet; or have Karawynn plane off the tops of the cubes with a saw before you put them in your glass. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Sun Feb 11 01:43:54 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] Message-ID: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from openosgeek@hushmail.com ----- From: openosgeek@hushmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:29:21 -0800 (PST) To: nick@zork.net Subject: crackmonkey Your mailing list sucks ass. You personally are an ignorant elitist-wannabe. Although you are free to be an asshole (which you often are), you do the open source community a profound disservice with you attitude. You don't deserve to be affiliated with the community. Do us all a favor and get out. C. Johnson, PhD ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From benb at iastate.edu Sun Feb 11 02:12:02 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A866571.AE40D1B8@iastate.edu> Nick Moffitt wrote: > open source community a profound disservice with you attitude. You don't > deserve to be affiliated with the community. Do us all a favor and get > out. In my 4AM been-coding-to-much-useless-shit state of mind, I read that as "...deserve to be afflicted with the community.", and it made a lot of sense. > C. Johnson, PhD Does that make his opinion more valuable? "Wow, I thought Nick was an ok kind of guy, but since a PhD says he's a loser, he must be!" Feh. If I ever end up with a Ph.D. or masters, and I do something like that, somebody smack me. Ben From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Feb 10 22:53:00 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] In-Reply-To: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <87g0hl1zjn.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> Your mailing list sucks ass. You personally are an ignorant NM> elitist-wannabe. Well, right on the money so far. NM> Although you are free to be an asshole (which you often are), NM> you do the open source community a profound disservice with NM> you attitude. I agree. Nick, you're making everything wonderful about Open Source feel DIRTY and WRONG. NM> You don't deserve to be affiliated with the community. Modern hardware is too good for your stinky algorithm. NM> Do us all a favor and get out. Well, *WHEW*! I am SO GLAD that C. Johnson had the guts to finally say what we've all been thinking. Nick, the fact is that you've gone from being an ASSET to a LIABILITY. It's plain that EACH and EVERY ONE of us would benefit from you heaving ho. C. Johnson speaks for all of us in asking you to leave The Community. So, let me reiterate: GET OUT, and don't let the Open Source door hit you in the Open Source ass on the way out! NM> C. Johnson, PhD PhD, as in, "I went to school for 7 years to learn how to be a self-righteous prick with a low tolerance for being baited." ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Sun Feb 11 06:19:34 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] In-Reply-To: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:43:54 -0800") References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <6uhf21cnex.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> ----- Forwarded message from openosgeek@hushmail.com ----- NM> From: openosgeek@hushmail.com NM> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:29:21 -0800 (PST) NM> Subject: crackmonkey -snip- NM> ----- End forwarded message ----- Did this just come out of the blue? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From stu at brainfood.com Sun Feb 11 10:22:30 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] In-Reply-To: <87g0hl1zjn.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:53:00PM -0800 References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> <87g0hl1zjn.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010211132230.A4456@stu.ddts.net> On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:53:00PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > PhD, as in, "I went to school for 7 years to learn how to be a > self-righteous prick with a low tolerance for being baited." "piled higher and deeper" -- RAH -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From joakim at ximian.com Sun Feb 11 13:06:11 2001 From: joakim at ximian.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] In-Reply-To: <87g0hl1zjn.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:53:00PM -0800 References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> <87g0hl1zjn.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010211150611.A1185@ximian.com> On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:53:00PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: > NM> Do us all a favor and get out. > Well, *WHEW*! I am SO GLAD that C. Johnson had the guts to finally say > what we've all been thinking. Nick, the fact is that you've gone from > being an ASSET to a LIABILITY. It's plain that EACH and EVERY ONE of > us would benefit from you heaving ho. Much like RMS, I might add. -- Joakim Ziegler - Ximian web monkey - joakim@ximian.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.ximian.com/ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sun Feb 11 12:14:17 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] In-Reply-To: <20010211150611.A1185@ximian.com> References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> <87g0hl1zjn.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211150611.A1185@ximian.com> Message-ID: <873ddl0yg6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JZ" == Joakim Ziegler writes: JZ> Much like RMS, I might add. Or the entire Helix crew, en masse. I feel for Nick, though. Being kicked out of your community is never an easy thing. Man, I remember the day when the Prime Minister of Greece came to my house and told me that, by universal plebiscite of all Greek nationals and emigrants of Greek descent, I was being asked to leave the Greek community. It was so painful! I only got 3 votes in favor, which means at least one of my brothers voted against me. Bastardo! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Feb 11 12:35:25 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [openosgeek@hushmail.com: crackmonkey] In-Reply-To: <6uhf21cnex.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 02:19:34PM +0000 References: <20010211014354.M17910@zork.net> <6uhf21cnex.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010211123525.N17910@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > Did this just come out of the blue? It appears to have. I'm trying to figure out what hushmail is before I craft my response, which will likely be quite short. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Sun Feb 11 12:37:09 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: Ice Cubes.] Message-ID: <20010211123709.O17910@zork.net> I knew the face on mars was going to come back... ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- From: James Wallis >Forwarded-by: Chris Wedgwood > >This is cool... someone must know why this happens. > > --cw > > http://www.cambrian.com/icecubes/icecubes.html > > These are pictures of ice cubes from my freezer. > They were frozen on the top shelf so nothing dripped onto them. > They do not contain hairs or any sort of internal support. > This happens all the time. > Any explanation? Anyone? There was a correspondence in New Scientist's "Last Word" column about this phenomenon a while ago. (There was also a similar one in Fortean Times, but not only did theirs not reach any useful conclusions, they don't archive their back issues on-line nearly as well as NS does. I used to write for Fortean Times, and co-authored their first yearbook, but they stopped being the journal of record for weird phenomena about the time they did a special section on whether the Face on Mars was evidence of advanced alien civilisations and concluded that yes, it probably was.) http://www.last-word.com/lastword/answers/lwa198bubbles.html -- James Wallis Director of Hogshead Publishing Ltd (james@hogshead.demon.co.uk) Posting this from his home address (james@erstwhile.demon.co.uk) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From xtifr at dsp.net Sun Feb 11 05:12:20 2001 From: xtifr at dsp.net (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:31PM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010211051220.A28802@starless> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:31PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > >>>>> "CW" == Chris Waters writes: > CW> Of course, if you're only semi-literate, or have the attention > CW> span of a hyperactive five-year-old, Stephenson may be easier > CW> on your poor widdwe bwain than Drexler or even Bear. > You DO realize that science fiction snobs are one step below scat > pornography snobs, don't you? Then I've got something to aspire to. You do realize that Drexler's not SF? Bah, I'm talking to someone who refers to himself as "Mr. Bad", I suppose I should just be happy he found someone to read him my post. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra- osis is too long xtifr@debian.org | microscopicsilico- to fit into a single or xtifr@dsp.net | volcaniconi- standalone haiku From wayne at qconcepts.net Sun Feb 11 13:14:38 2001 From: wayne at qconcepts.net (Wayne Earl) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] hushmail Message-ID: From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Feb 11 13:17:35 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010211051220.A28802@starless>; from xtifr@dsp.net on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:12:20AM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> Message-ID: <20010211131735.A4379@zgp.org> On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:12:20AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: > You do realize that Drexler's not SF? What happened to all those classic books about Kirk and Spock making mad passionate freaky-freaky in space? Now that's some literature, let me tell you. I don't see the GOOD sci-fi books at the bookstore any more; it's all "Man-Kzin Wars XXXVI" and shit. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From chris.waters at pigdog.org Sun Feb 11 13:19:36 2001 From: chris.waters at pigdog.org (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010211051220.A28802@starless> References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> Message-ID: <87hf20zzmf.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "CW" == Chris Waters writes: CW> Then I've got something to aspire to. Good, keep on working on it. CW> You do realize that Drexler's not SF? Well, I think that that statement is open to interpretation. However, I -do- know that "Engines of Creation" is a pop science book, not a science fiction book, yes. The other two were schi-fi, though, eh? CW> Bah, I'm talking to someone who refers to himself as CW> "Mr. Bad", I suppose I should just be happy he found someone CW> to read him my post. Ooh! So painful. OK, I've seen the error of my ways. ~Chris Waters -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Chris Waters \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | Stay*Real*Watery | (X \x) ( ((**) "You don't deserve to be affiliated with the community." \ -- Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From xtifr at dsp.net Sun Feb 11 14:52:10 2001 From: xtifr at dsp.net (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010211131735.A4379@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 01:17:35PM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> <20010211131735.A4379@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010211145210.C28802@starless> On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 01:17:35PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:12:20AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: > > You do realize that Drexler's not SF? > What happened to all those classic books about Kirk and Spock making mad > passionate freaky-freaky in space? They're more popular than ever. Although I think books about Buffy are starting to crowd them a little. > it's all "Man-Kzin Wars XXXVI" and shit. Yeah, that series really started going downhill after XXIV. What I really like are those multi-volume 1200-page-each fantasy epics. I mean, if you can read a book that thick, that *proves* you're smart, eh? -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra- osis is too long xtifr@debian.org | microscopicsilico- to fit into a single or xtifr@dsp.net | volcaniconi- standalone haiku From xtifr at dsp.net Sun Feb 11 15:01:02 2001 From: xtifr at dsp.net (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <87hf20zzmf.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from chris.waters@pigdog.org on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 01:19:36PM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> <87hf20zzmf.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010211150102.D28802@starless> On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 01:19:36PM -0800, Mr.Bad wrote: > The other two were schi-fi, though, eh? That's pronounced "sigh fie", you dumbass! Say it now, and say it loud! > >>>>> "CW" == Chris Waters writes: > CW> Bah, I'm talking to someone who refers to himself as > CW> "Mr. Bad", I suppose I should just be happy he found someone > CW> to read him my post. > Ooh! So painful. OK, I've seen the error of my ways. Bah, that was barely a love tap. When I insult you, you'll know it, you goddamn, cocksucking, motherfucking, ass-licking, slimy little son of a three-toed bitch! I love you! *smack* p.s. I'd be careful about using my name if I were you, you never know who might be hunting me. Cheers. -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra- osis is too long xtifr@debian.org | microscopicsilico- to fit into a single or xtifr@dsp.net | volcaniconi- standalone haiku From xtifr at pigdog.org Sun Feb 11 15:09:50 2001 From: xtifr at pigdog.org (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010211150102.D28802@starless> References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> <87hf20zzmf.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211150102.D28802@starless> Message-ID: <87lmrcyfy9.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "CW" == Chris Waters writes: CW> I'd be careful about using my name if I were you, you never CW> know who might be hunting me. Cheers. It's my name now, amigo. ~Chris Waters -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Chris Waters \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | Stay*Real*Watery | (X \x) ( ((**) "You don't deserve to be affiliated with the community." \ -- Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From rick at linuxmafia.com Sun Feb 11 15:35:00 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <20010211051220.A28802@starless>; from xtifr@dsp.net on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:12:20AM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> Message-ID: <20010211153500.F7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Chris Waters quotation: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:31PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: >> You DO realize that science fiction snobs are one step below scat >> pornography snobs, don't you? > > Then I've got something to aspire to. Yeah, science fiction SUX, whereas magic realism RULZ. I read that somewhere in the Crackmonkey Literary Monthly, I believe. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From xtifr at dsp.net Sun Feb 11 15:57:36 2001 From: xtifr at dsp.net (Chris Waters) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nanotech explained In-Reply-To: <87lmrcyfy9.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from xtifr@pigdog.org on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 03:09:50PM -0800 References: <20010209125224.E6117@zork.net> <20010209153503.A25702@starless> <87itmjjc5c.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211051220.A28802@starless> <87hf20zzmf.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010211150102.D28802@starless> <87lmrcyfy9.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010211155736.B32102@starless> Chris Waters wrote: > It's my name now, amigo. Mon cher! That's so flattering! You'll turn my head! -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra- osis is too long xtifr@debian.org | microscopicsilico- to fit into a single or xtifr@dsp.net | volcaniconi- standalone haiku From elisix at zork.net Sun Feb 11 17:59:40 2001 From: elisix at zork.net (Elise Shapiro) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] guh Message-ID: <20010211175940.A7496@zork.net> http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/02/11/stirevnws02017.html From nick at zork.net Sun Feb 11 18:20:24 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [antiwes@execpc.com: Re: [Tron] Digest Number 381] Message-ID: <20010211182024.P17910@zork.net> And if you will now excuse me, I will return to my comic book store, where I dispense the insults rather than receive them. ----- Forwarded message from Kris Herzog ----- It's not that bad, I got married on Jan. 6th of this year in a comic book store. :) (the owner paid for my fiancee's plane ticket, so he was subbing for "Father of the Bride") Of course, it was also broadcast semi-live over the Internet as well... (15 sec. webcam and live streaming audio) :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "People who worship heroes must be prepared for disillusionment..." Richard Conway, "Lost Horizon" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ antiwes@execpc.com ICQ: 24746540 http://www.antiwesley.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "A Geek for all Times!" - Dave Adler, PMEB mailing list, 3/14/99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From rick at linuxmafia.com Sun Feb 11 22:20:35 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] guh In-Reply-To: <20010211175940.A7496@zork.net>; from elisix@zork.net on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:59:40PM -0800 References: <20010211175940.A7496@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010211222035.J7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Elise Shapiro quotation: > http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/02/11/stirevnws02017.html Hardly the only American company to have profiteered on that matter, but quite possibly the largest. I'm glad the story is becoming better known. Of course, in 1945, _German_ companies, that had been up to their bloody necks in all of that, collected $200 and passed go. I.G. Farben, Hoechst AG, and Bayer come most immediately to mind. After all, they were anti-Bolshevik, you know. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From schoen at loyalty.org Sun Feb 11 22:33:29 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] guh In-Reply-To: <20010211175940.A7496@zork.net>; from elisix@zork.net on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:59:40PM -0800 References: <20010211175940.A7496@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010211223329.D672@zork.net> Elise Shapiro writes: > http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/02/11/stirevnws02017.html It's easy to forget that there are reasons some people don't like computers, automation, or efficiency. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nick at zork.net Mon Feb 12 10:42:41 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> I hope you fall off of one of them Nigerian skyscrapers. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- robbie@shorty.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Feb 12 10:45:00 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:42:41AM -0800 References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > I hope you fall off of one of them Nigerian skyscrapers. http://www.shorty.com/~robbie/aboutme.html Politics: A cross between Libertarian and Republican with some Constitutionalist and a bit of Scorched Earth Party mixed in. I didn't vote for Bush or Gore because neither one of them are qualified to run the country. Awwwwww.... -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Mon Feb 12 12:59:49 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: <3A850D85.BD484800@iastate.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Ben Brockert wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16809.html yay, they mention rotten.com, my next-door-neighbor on the internet! perversion always has a home on area systems, the internet's first bandwidth coop. -- "porn, please" -- Ben Franklin From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Feb 12 13:01:53 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] shoot me now In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 12:59:49PM -0800 References: <3A850D85.BD484800@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20010212130153.W17910@zork.net> begin Don Qi quotation: > yay, they mention rotten.com, my next-door-neighbor on the internet! > perversion always has a home on area systems, the internet's first > bandwidth coop. Hmmm, I believe that was The Little Garden. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Feb 12 18:45:19 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Friday night pr0n Fight! Message-ID: <20010212184519.A12129@zgp.org> In the red corner, the proprietary application out of California, used in every web design shop, newspaper, and porno magazine in America, the program whose name has become a VERB...Adobe Photoshop! In the blue corner, also from California, the free, Scheme-scriptable, network-enabled, GUI-toolkit-spawning, "GNU Emacs for images"....the GIMP! Tonight's fight will answer once and for all which program makes the most realistic-looking pr0n using the actual JPEG Head of Utah's Porn Czar and actual genuine *virgin*, Ms. Paula Houston! http://www.sltrib.com/2001/feb/02112001/nation_w/70356.htm She starts her job today. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From sneakums at zork.net Tue Feb 13 00:41:13 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> (Monkey Master's message of "Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:45:00 -0800") References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u1yt3ht5i.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: MM> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: >> I hope you fall off of one of them Nigerian skyscrapers. MM> http://www.shorty.com/~robbie/aboutme.html MM> Politics: A cross between Libertarian and Republican with some MM> Constitutionalist and a bit of Scorched Earth Party mixed MM> in. I didn't vote for Bush or Gore because neither one of MM> them are qualified to run the country. So who did you vote for, Robbie? There were more than two candidates on the ballot, as I recall. Not approving of either of the sure-fire winners does not excuse you from making a choice. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Tue Feb 13 01:09:12 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. Message-ID: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/print/3010/ > So it comes down to this: Are you more interested in having a wide > variety of software available to run on your computer, or in helping > some organization attain the power and control that it seeks? And if > it's the latter, to whom do you want to give the control -- a > hegemonistic corporation whose goals are strictly its own, or a > batch of ivory-tower Bolsheviks who also do not have your best > interests in mind? Ah yes, the good old "rms is a Commie" argument. How I have missed you these past few months! -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From jdub at aphid.net Tue Feb 13 01:18:57 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 09:09:12AM +0000 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213201857.A11371@aphid.net> > Ah yes, the good old "rms is a Commie" argument. How I have missed > you these past few months! We're not just bad, we're "'free' software sycophants"! START: "Interesting, isn't it, how these two diametrically opposed views both rely on the sacred notion of freedom to make their cases." FINISH: "That, friends and neighbors, is freedom, and anybody who tells you otherwise is hiding an agenda." Fucker. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- "Free software never simply picks up its marbles and goes home." - Jonathan Corbet, LWN From robbie at shorty.com Tue Feb 13 02:34:21 2001 From: robbie at shorty.com (Robbie Honerkamp) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:42:41AM -0800 References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213113421.F24828@shorty.com> Thus spake Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net): > I hope you fall off of one of them Nigerian skyscrapers. Aww. I love you too! Robbie From robbie at shorty.com Tue Feb 13 02:37:31 2001 From: robbie at shorty.com (Robbie Honerkamp) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010213113634.G24828@shorty.com>; from robbie@shorty.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:36:34AM +0100 References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> <6u1yt3ht5i.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213113634.G24828@shorty.com> Message-ID: <20010213113731.A12600@shorty.com> Thus spake Robbie Honerkamp (robbie@shorty.com): Thus spake Irish Bastard (sneakums@zork.net): > So who did you vote for, Robbie? There were more than two candidates > on the ballot, as I recall. Not approving of either of the sure-fire > winners does not excuse you from making a choice. Correct. I sat in the wonderful Lagos traffic to get to the US Embassy and cast my (absentee) vote for Harry Browne, ThankYouVeryMuch. Not liking the two main party candidates doesn't mean I didn't vote for anyone. Robbie From robert at namodn.com Tue Feb 13 02:41:41 2001 From: robert at namodn.com (Rob) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 09:09:12AM +0000 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 09:09:12AM +0000, Irish Bastard wrote: > > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/print/3010/ > > > So it comes down to this: Are you more interested in having a wide > > variety of software available to run on your computer, or in helping > > some organization attain the power and control that it seeks? And if > > it's the latter, to whom do you want to give the control -- a > > hegemonistic corporation whose goals are strictly its own, or a > > batch of ivory-tower Bolsheviks who also do not have your best > > interests in mind? > > Ah yes, the good old "rms is a Commie" argument. How I have missed > you these past few months! Now. It's sure as hell not free speech if my speech can be modified by someone else to change its meaning entirely. It's not free speech if it's not even recognized as my speech, "my" in this case being ownership and rights to it, rather than who came up with it before somebody else twisted it to have a different meaning, to do something I had not intended. Yeah, too bad I can't hold a copyright or anything silly like that. Too bad I can't take his free speech above and make it "unrecognizable as his speech" like this : Now. It's sure as hell free speech if my speech can be modified by someone else to change its meaning entirely. It's free speech if it's not even recognized as my speech, "my" in this case being ownership and rights to it, rather than who came up with it before somebody else twisted it to have a different meaning, to do something I had not intended. Oh well. -- Rob Namodn From stu at brainfood.com Tue Feb 13 04:25:47 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010213113731.A12600@shorty.com>; from robbie@shorty.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:37:31AM +0100 References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> <6u1yt3ht5i.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213113634.G24828@shorty.com> <20010213113731.A12600@shorty.com> Message-ID: <20010213072547.A23451@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Robbie Honerkamp wrote: > Correct. I sat in the wonderful Lagos traffic to get to the US Embassy > and cast my (absentee) vote for Harry Browne, ThankYouVeryMuch. aaaargh he's that libertarian guy.. damn libertarians.. stole their party name from the libertarian socialists in the '70s.. apt-get install anarchism -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From sneakums at zork.net Tue Feb 13 04:48:30 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010213072547.A23451@stu.ddts.net> (Robert Edmonds's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:25:47 -0500") References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> <6u1yt3ht5i.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213113634.G24828@shorty.com> <20010213113731.A12600@shorty.com> <20010213072547.A23451@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <6upugmhhpd.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds writes: RE> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Robbie Honerkamp wrote: >> Correct. I sat in the wonderful Lagos traffic to get to the US Embassy >> and cast my (absentee) vote for Harry Browne, ThankYouVeryMuch. RE> aaaargh he's that libertarian guy.. damn libertarians.. stole RE> their party name from the libertarian socialists in the '70s.. RE> apt-get install anarchism Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: lilo 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/2467kB of archives. After unpacking 3.2MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From mdillon at standmed.com Tue Feb 13 07:55:34 2001 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010213113731.A12600@shorty.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Robbie Honerkamp wrote: > Not liking the two main party candidates doesn't mean I didn't vote for > anyone. shows how much you know. -md From sneakums at zork.net Tue Feb 13 08:04:03 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: (mike dillon's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:55:34 -0800 (PST)") References: Message-ID: <6ulmrah8ng.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "md" == mike dillon writes: md> On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Robbie Honerkamp wrote: >> Not liking the two main party candidates doesn't mean I didn't >> vote for anyone. md> shows how much you know. Don't you love the way they come around, displaying their ignorance like a child who filled his potty? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 09:10:07 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <6upugmhhpd.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:48:30PM +0000 References: <20010212104241.S17910@zork.net> <20010212104500.T17910@zork.net> <6u1yt3ht5i.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213113634.G24828@shorty.com> <20010213113731.A12600@shorty.com> <20010213072547.A23451@stu.ddts.net> <6upugmhhpd.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213091007.Z17910@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds writes: > RE> apt-get install anarchism > > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > lilo > 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/2467kB of archives. After unpacking 3.2MB will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Now THAT's comedy! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 09:21:24 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 09:09:12AM +0000 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213092124.A17910@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/print/3010/ > > I was pondering this when I got a note from a good friend in which > > he expressed, rightly, I think, outrage over a Microsoft site that > > attempts to whip up the crowds in righteous indignation over what > > that bad old Department of Justice is doing to keep Microsoft from > > being "free to innovate." With regards to the browser-in-the-OS bit, I don't think that the Microsoft stance is any different from that of the free software foundation. We should have the freedom to write whatever software we please, and then distribute it. Obviously, the terms of distribution are the great philosophical difference here, but Microsoft's point is valid. Arbitrarily saying "people should not write certain kinds of software" is what gets Jon Johansen in trouble. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 09:23:02 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com>; from robert@namodn.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:41:41AM -0800 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> Message-ID: <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> begin Rob quotation: > > Now. It's sure as hell not free speech if my speech can be > modified by someone else to change its meaning entirely. It's not > free speech if it's not even recognized as my speech, "my" in this > case being ownership and rights to it, rather than who came up > with it before somebody else twisted it to have a different > meaning, to do something I had not intended. > RMS believes that expressive or non-functional speech should not be freely modifiable. In other words, he doesn't want people re-writing the GNU manifesto to advise others to run proprietary software. Another colossal case of missing the point. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 13 09:53:09 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [andrew@sulli.org: [rescuemuni-announce] Help Muni Buy 175 New Buses!] Message-ID: <20010213095309.C17910@zork.net> YAAAR ----- Forwarded message from Andrew Sullivan ----- Dear Rescue Muni Member: We need your help! Muni is planning to buy 175 new motorcoaches to complete its fleet replacement. The Municipal Transportation Agency (MTA) board of directors has already approved the plans to acquire these buses; now the Board of Supervisors, acting as the SF County Transportation Authority board of directors, needs to allocate county sales-tax money to pay for them. There is a movement afoot to block this purchase because these buses are powered by diesel fuel, instead of alternative fuels such as compressed natural gas. Proponents of delaying the bus purchase argue that CNG buses would be less polluting than diesel buses, and therefore Muni should invest several million dollars in new infrastructure and wait several years to complete fleet replacement. Rescue Muni's steering committee strongly disagrees with this view, because Muni service would get significantly worse if the bus purchase is blocked - and because CNG buses are generally less reliable to operate, more expensive, and less powerful (particularly on hills) than are diesel buses. While we agree that low-emission vehicles make sense, we strongly believe that electrification is the right choice - Muni's been running zero-emission, quiet, and (sometimes) reliable trolley coach service for over 50 years. By unanimous vote, we submitted a letter to the Board of Supervisors urging that the bus purchase be completed - but WE NEED YOUR HELP. If you agree that Muni's riders can't wait 2-3 years (or more!) for a new bus purchase, please call or email your Supervisor - or all of the Supervisors. Below is a sample letter that we've put together - please feel free to modify it as you see fit. If you like, you can replace "Muni's motorcoach fleet" below with the specific routes you ride. The Supervisors' email addresses, listed by district, are: 9. Board President Tom Ammiano tom_ammiano@ci.sf.ca.us 1. Jake McGoldrick Jake_McGoldrick@ci.sf.ca.us 2. Gavin Newsom Gavin_Newsom@ci.sf.ca.us 3. Aaron Peskin Aaron_Peskin@ci.sf.ca.us 4. Leland Yee Leland_Yee@ci.sf.ca.us 5. Matt Gonzalez Matt_Gonzalez@ci.sf.ca.us 6. Chris Daly chris_daly@ci.sf.ca.us 7. Tony Hall Tony_Hall@ci.sf.ca.us 8. Mark Leno Mark_Leno@ci.sf.ca.us 10. Sophie Maxwell Sophie_Maxwell@ci.sf.ca.us 11. Gerardo Sandoval Gerardo_Sandoval@ci.sf.ca.us You can also copy all of the addresses into your emailer as follows: tom_ammiano@ci.sf.ca.us, Gavin_Newsom@ci.sf.ca.us, Jake_McGoldrick@ci.sf.ca.us, Aaron_Peskin@ci.sf.ca.us, Leland_Yee@ci.sf.ca.us, Matt_Gonzalez@ci.sf.ca.us, chris_daly@ci.sf.ca.us, Tony_Hall@ci.sf.ca.us, Mark_Leno@ci.sf.ca.us, Sophie_Maxwell@ci.sf.ca.us, Gerardo_Sandoval@ci.sf.ca.us Our letter to the Board is at: http://www.rescuemuni.org/diesel-letter.html Our press release is at: http://www.rescuemuni.org/pr_diesel.html Thanks for your help! Best regards, Andrew Sullivan Chair, Rescue Muni p.s. If you have comments about this, please feel free to email the Steering Committee at transit1@rescuemuni.org, or join the Rescue Muni discussion list at rescuemuni@yahoogroups.com. ------ Dear Supervisor [name]: I am writing as a frequent Muni rider and member of Rescue Muni to urge you to vote in favor of Muni's proposed bus procurement. As you know, Muni is asking the SFCTA to fund the purchase of 175 new buses to complete its fleet replacment program. These new buses are critical to Muni service; they will be replacing extremely old, noisy, polliting buses, and their acquisition wil make a huge difference for service quality. I frequently ride Muni's motorcoach fleet and currently receive mediocre to poor service due to the use of old, unreliable buses. If the new buses are ordered as scheduled, I and riders like me will certainly get better service, and will be less likely to drive cars around the city and downtown during commute hours. I understand that some are opposing this purchase because they recommend that Muni acquire compressed natural gas or other alternative-fuel buses instead. I oppose such a decision, because it will delay bus acquisition by several years, and because it will increase Muni's operating costs at a time when increased funding should be spent on more service. I agree with Muni staff that buying the new diesel buses now, in accordance with the clean diesel path of compliance with CARB emissions regulations, will lead to a cleaner fleet, with lower particulate matter emissions, more quickly, than the proposed CNG buses. In addition, CNG buses are well known to be less reliable and more expensive to operate than diesel buses; I am afraid that service quality will once again suffer if these buses are acquired despite their clear limitations. The best way to reduce Muni's emissions is to expand Muni's ZERO-emission electric fleet. I also strongly recommend that Muni and the Board expand plans to electrify major routes - this can both reduce emissions (and noise!) and increase Muni's service quality. Muni's riders have suffered too long from old, unreliable, dirty buses. Don't "un-Rescue" Muni by making us wait even longer for them to be replaced. Buy the buses now! Thanks, [You] You have received this email because you are a member of (or a subscriber to) Rescue Muni, a transit riders' association for San Francisco. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: rescuemuni-announce-unsubscribe@egroups.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Feb 13 10:09:01 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 09:23:02AM -0800 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Monkey Master quotation: > Another colossal case of missing the point. Yeah, but he sounded so "moderate", doing it. It's _much_ easier than thinking! -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 13 10:09:51 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix Message-ID: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> So, when exactly *is* the Unix gigasecond party? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 10:14:11 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:09:51AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > So, when exactly *is* the Unix gigasecond party? date +%s says we're at 982088020 now. I seem to recall that there was a CABAL meeting scheduled, as discussed on this list nearly three years ago. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 13 10:17:25 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:09:01AM -0800 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20010213101725.B30718@zgp.org> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:09:01AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Yeah, but he sounded so "moderate", doing it. It's _much_ easier than > thinking! Who the hell started all these damn "My Opinion About What Linux Needs to be Successful" sites? At least turn off images or block banners if you visit them, and maybe they'll go away. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 13 10:23:30 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:14:11AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:14:11AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > date +%s says we're at 982088020 now. I seem to recall that there was > a CABAL meeting scheduled, as discussed on this list nearly three > years ago. $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dhd at eradicator.org Tue Feb 13 10:27:37 2001 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: Don Marti's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:23:30 -0800" References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> Message-ID: <87pugmwi92.fsf@monolith.eradicator.org> Don Marti writes: > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' > Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 Surely you mean 1<<30. And I'll call you Shirley if I damn well please. -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~dhd/ From sharkey at zoic.org Tue Feb 13 10:37:35 2001 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:14:11AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010214053735.A4140@zoic.org> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:14:11AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > > So, when exactly *is* the Unix gigasecond party? > > date +%s says we're at 982088020 now. I seem to recall that there was > a CABAL meeting scheduled, as discussed on this list nearly three > years ago. 1000_000_000 0x3B9ACA00 Sun Sep 9 01:46:40 2001 (GMT) 1073_741_823 0x3FFFFFFF Sat Jan 10 13:37:03 2004 (GMT) 2000_000_000 0x77359400 Wed May 18 03:33:20 2033 (GMT) 2147_483_647 0x7FFFFFFF Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 (GMT) What's so special about 0x3B9ACA00 seconds anyway? -----sharkey "... party like its 0x7FFFFFFF" From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 10:41:36 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:23:30AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010213104136.F17910@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' > Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 apt-get install python -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 13 10:43:59 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213104136.F17910@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:41:36AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <20010213104136.F17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213104359.A31306@zgp.org> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:41:36AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > apt-get install python apt-get install do-that-in-one-line-of-python-fuckface -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From robert at namodn.com Tue Feb 13 10:53:44 2001 From: robert at namodn.com (Rob) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213101725.B30718@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:17:25AM -0800 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com> <20010213101725.B30718@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010213105344.D19775@claire.namodn.com> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:17:25AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:09:01AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > > > Yeah, but he sounded so "moderate", doing it. It's _much_ easier than > > thinking! > > Who the hell started all these damn "My Opinion About What Linux Needs > to be Successful" sites? At least turn off images or block banners if > you visit them, and maybe they'll go away. Damnit, Linux needs the users to look at banner ads!! How else can we fund software development except through paid commercial advertisement? It's commies like you who are holding Linux back from the enterprise and the desktop and the appliance and the PDA markets. Slap banner ads all over your site, before it's too late! -- Rob Namodn From joey at kitenet.net Tue Feb 13 10:55:30 2001 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <87pugmwi92.fsf@monolith.eradicator.org>; from dhd@eradicator.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 01:27:37PM -0500 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <87pugmwi92.fsf@monolith.eradicator.org> Message-ID: <20010213105530.D4573@kitenet.net> David Huggins-Daines wrote: > Don Marti writes: > > > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' > > Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 > > Surely you mean 1<<30. Well you can wait until 2004 to celebrate the epoch, but I don't intend to. You're one of those "but, but, the millennium's not until 2001" wankers, arn't you? I think he means perl -le 'print"".localtime 10**9' -- see shy jo From samp at aztech-cs.com Tue Feb 13 13:08:46 2001 From: samp at aztech-cs.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213104359.A31306@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:43:59AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <20010213104136.F17910@zork.net> <20010213104359.A31306@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010213130845.D5119@aztech-cs.com> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:43:59AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:41:36AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > > apt-get install python > > apt-get install do-that-in-one-line-of-python-fuckface > python -c 'import time ; print time.strftime("%c", time.localtime(10**9))' -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Aztech Cyberspace Histogram Valley, Nevada From stu at brainfood.com Tue Feb 13 13:33:30 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213105344.D19775@claire.namodn.com>; from robert@namodn.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:53:44AM -0800 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com> <20010213101725.B30718@zgp.org> <20010213105344.D19775@claire.namodn.com> Message-ID: <20010213163330.A24205@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:53:44AM -0800, Rob wrote: > It's commies like you who are holding Linux back from the enterprise > and the desktop and the appliance and the PDA markets. http://www.agendacomputing.com -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From rick at praxis.com.au Tue Feb 13 13:54:15 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> Monkey Master wrote: > date +%s says we're at 982088020 now. 982101199 next. From rick at praxis.com.au Tue Feb 13 13:55:34 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> Message-ID: <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au> Don Marti wrote: > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' > Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 Sun Sep 9 11:46:40 2001 next. From schoen at loyalty.org Tue Feb 13 14:17:03 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au>; from rick@praxis.com.au on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 08:55:34AM +1100 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <20010213141703.W672@zork.net> Rick Welykochy writes: > Don Marti wrote: > > > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' > > Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 > > Sun Sep 9 11:46:40 2001 > > next. The whole problem with that perl solution is that it doesn't qualify it with a timezone. Saturday 18:46:40 PDT, Sunday 1:46:40 UTC. I think there will be a party in PDT, at least; I asked Chris DiBona about this last week, but I haven't heard anything from him. I wanted to try to have a party and invite great historical Unix figures to talk about the past and future of Unix. In theory the party should be in New Jersey, but it might be good to have one nowadays in the Bay Area. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Feb 13 14:22:39 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213105530.D4573@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:55:30AM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <87pugmwi92.fsf@monolith.eradicator.org> <20010213105530.D4573@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20010213142239.E7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Joey Hess quotation: > You're one of those "but, but, the millennium's not until 2001" wankers, > arn't you? Yeah, those are real doofuses. As any fool can plainly see, it's not until 3001. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From chris at dibona.com Tue Feb 13 14:26:56 2001 From: chris at dibona.com (Chris J. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Gold, Baby, sept 9th. Message-ID: Hey all, So I don't know if you knew it, but chris and I moved to Placerville about 2 hours east of SF (1 hour east of sacramento, which will be know by it's airport designation "smf" because it looks like smurf), We've got a baby coming mid may but we should still be able to throw a party, but it will be in placerville (gold country, hence the subject line) But, if you are up for it, we'd love to ahve people over to thenew place to see the house, baby and bask in the coolnees that is sept 9th, 2001. Since the 9th is sunday, it demands a party (or par-tah) on saturday the 8th, so we can user in the day properly. So if want, we can do it this way, people can collapse on the floor, the guest room ,or at the local hotels, like the cary house hotel, which had black bart (the western robber, not the illicit t-shirt character) or at the bed and breakfast across the street or the many motel 6/holiday inns around. Otherwise, we could throw it at dons in mountain view or somewhere else. Chris -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com From spwhite at chariot.net.au Tue Feb 13 14:46:20 2001 From: spwhite at chariot.net.au (Stephen White) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213130845.D5119@aztech-cs.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Sam Phillips wrote: > python -c 'import time ; print time.strftime("%c", time.localtime(10**9))' and > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' both lose to: $ ruby -e 'puts Time.at(10**9)' Incidentally, it prints the timezone: Sun Sep 09 11:16:40 CST 2001 Now pardon me while I wank myself into a compunerdish frenzy, adding to the RMS homage stalactite above my bed. -- spwhite@chariot.net.au From mdillon at standmed.com Tue Feb 13 14:49:26 2001 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213141703.W672@zork.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Seth David Schoen wrote: > The whole problem with that perl solution is that it doesn't qualify > it with a timezone. > > Saturday 18:46:40 PDT, Sunday 1:46:40 UTC. $ perl -MPOSIX=strftime -le 'print strftime "%c", localtime(10 ** 9)' Sat 08 Sep 2001 06:46:40 PM PST -md From dtype at dtype.org Tue Feb 13 15:02:47 2001 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Gold, Baby, sept 9th. In-Reply-To: ; from chris@dibona.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:26:56PM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20010213230247.A27910@dtype.org> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:26:56PM -0800, Chris J. DiBona wrote: > Otherwise, we could throw it at dons in mountain view or somewhere else. Despite the poor crackmonkey attendance at my last party, I'm up for it as well. I've decided the house can hold >150 or so before it blows up. (or we move to a drunken roaming party, ala Douglas Adams) Any excuse for embarassing myself. Again. -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From chris at dibona.com Tue Feb 13 15:04:58 2001 From: chris at dibona.com (Chris J. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Gold, Baby, sept 9th. In-Reply-To: <20010213230247.A27910@dtype.org> Message-ID: That would be cool, I haven't been to Drews super keg-o-matic pad yet. Chris -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, M. Drew Streib wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:26:56PM -0800, Chris J. DiBona wrote: > > Otherwise, we could throw it at dons in mountain view or somewhere else. > > Despite the poor crackmonkey attendance at my last party, I'm up for > it as well. I've decided the house can hold >150 or so before it blows > up. (or we move to a drunken roaming party, ala Douglas Adams) > > Any excuse for embarassing myself. > > Again. > > -drew > > -- > M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org > > "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." > From mr.bad at shithousecrazy.com Tue Feb 13 15:05:11 2001 From: mr.bad at shithousecrazy.com (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Perjuring Running Dogs For the Man Message-ID: <87lmrarxp4.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Check this crazy action! Perjuring bastards! ~Mr. Bad ---8<--- From: "Collin Evans" To: Subject: DeCSS Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:27:51 -0500 Mr. Bad, Thought you might like to know that I received a letter from the MPAA about hosting your version of DeCSS at my website. In addition, my ISP (which happens to be my high school) got all up in arms about it, threatened to take my account away, my website down and dump hot oil all over me. While I'm sure that once they realize I didn't do anything wrong nothing will happen, I thought it might amuse you. The fact that the MPAA didn't even check to see what was being hosted is quite funny in my opinion. The letter from the MPAA follows. If you have any other questions, please feel free to e-mail me. Collin Evans ---------------- From: MPAA >>Subject: Unauthorized Distribution of DeCSS (File #73891) >>To: sstott@andover.edu >>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:53:41 -0500 >>X-MIMETrack: Serialize by POP3 Server on athena/PAA(Release 5.0.5 >|September 22, 2000) at >> 02/13/2001 08:52:39 AM, >> Serialize complete at 02/13/2001 08:52:39 AM >> >> >>MOTION PICTURE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA, INC. >>15503 VENTURA BOULEVARD >>ENCINO, CALIFORNIA 91436 >> >>UNITED STATES >>Anti-Piracy Operations >>PHONE: (818) 728 - 8127 >>Email: MPAA23@pacbell.net >> >>Monday, February 12, 2001 >> >>Name: Sasan >>E-mail: sstott@andover.edu >>ISP: Trustees of Phillips Academy >> >>Via Fax/Email >> >> >>RE: Illegal Provision of DeCSS/Circumvention Device >>Site/URL: http://student.andover.edu/austinpowers/ [with unknown IP >address] >>MPAA File#: 73891 >> >>Date of Infringement: 2/7/2001 3:45:52 PM EST >> >> >>Dear Sasan: >> >>The Motion Picture Association of America is authorized to act on behalf >of the following copyright owners: >> >>Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc. >>Disney Enterprises, Inc. >>Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. >>Paramount Pictures Corporation >>TriStar Pictures, Inc. >>Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation >>United Artists Pictures, Inc. >>United Artists Corporation >>Universal City Studios, Inc. >>Warner Bros., a Division of Time Warner Entertainment Company, L.P. >> >>We have received information that the above referenced Internet site is >providing a circumvention device commonly known as DeCSS. DeCSS is a >software utility that decrypts or unscrambles the contents of DVDs >(consisting of copyrighted motion pictures) or otherwise circumvents the >protection afforded by the Contents Scramble System (CSS) and permits the >copying of the DVD contents and/or any portion thereof. As such, DeCSS is >an unlawful circumvention device within the meaning of the Digital >Millennium Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section >1201(a)(2)(3). Providing or offering DeCSS to the public on your system or >network violates the provisions of Section 1201(a)(2) which prohibit the >"manufacturing, importing or offering to the public, providing, or >otherwise trafficking" in an unlawful circumvention device. (Title 17 >United States Code Section 1201 et seq. hereafter is referred to as the >"DMCA"). >> >>On August 17, 2000, a federal district court in the Southern District of >New York confirmed that offering, providing, or trafficking in DeCSS, or >any other device designed to circumvent CSS, violates the DMCA. The >district court granted a permanent injunction against (1) posting on any >Internet site, or in any other way manufacturing, importing or offering to >the public, providing, or otherwise trafficking in DeCSS or any other >technology primarily designed to circumvent CSS, and (2) linking any >Internet web site, either directly or through a series of links, to any >other Internet web site containing DeCSS. >> >>The district court's ruling makes clear that by providing DeCSS, the above > referenced Internet site violates the DMCA. This conduct may also violate >the laws of other countries, international law, and/or treaty obligations. >> >>We therefore demand that you take appropriate steps to cause the immediate >removal of DeCSS from the above identified Internet site, along with such >other actions as may be necessary or appropriate to suspend this illegal >activity. Failure to comply with this measure will subject you to liability >as described above. >> >>We also request that you: >> >>1. maintain and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent the >destruction of all records, including electronic records, in your >possession or control related to this Internet site, account holder or >subscriber, and >> >>2. provide appropriate notice to the subscriber or account holder >responsible for the presence of DeCSS on your system or network, advising >him/her of the contents of this notice and directing that person to contact >the undersigned immediately at the email address provided above. >> >>By copy of this letter, the owner of the above referenced Internet site >and/or email account is hereby directed to cease and desist from the >conduct complained of herein. >> >>On behalf of the respective owners of the exclusive rights to the >copyrighted material at issue in this notice, we hereby state, pursuant to >the DMCA that we have a good faith belief that the acts complained of are >not authorized by the copyright owners, their respective agents, or the law. >> >>Also pursuant to DMCA, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury under the >law of California and under the laws of the United States, that the >information in this notification is accurate and that we are authorized to >act on behalf of the owners of the exclusive rights being infringed as set >forth in this notification. >> >>Please contact us at the above listed address or by replying to this email >if you should have any questions. >> >>Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is >requested. >> >>Respectfully, >> >>Hemanshu Nigam >>Director >>Worldwide Internet Enforcement ---8<--- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad - mr.bad@shithousecrazy.com - http://www.shithousecrazy.com/ * s t a y * * r e a l * * b a d * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 13 15:21:05 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010213152105.G17910@zork.net> Yeah, we used to have some xpediors way back when, but hard labor and a life of righteous meditation saved them from their perversions. Stay away from our children! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- alex.bischoff@xpedior.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Feb 13 15:33:26 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213141703.W672@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:17:03PM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au> <20010213141703.W672@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213153326.F7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > In theory the party should be in New Jersey, but it might be good to > have one nowadays in the Bay Area. So, we should compromise, by having it in the Bay Area, but serving really good pastrami sandwiches. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From benb at iastate.edu Tue Feb 13 15:41:14 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <3A89C61A.5029E420@iastate.edu> Rick Welykochy wrote: > > Don Marti wrote: > > > $ perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"' > > Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 > > Sun Sep 9 11:46:40 2001 Mon Sep 9 01:46:40 1935 I think MacPerl is b0rken. From joakim at ximian.com Tue Feb 13 16:52:40 2001 From: joakim at ximian.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canazis. Message-ID: <20010213185240.G4340@ximian.com> http://www.geocities.com/nscwp88/canada.htm "The USA is sometimes Canada's ally but they think they own the world and are trying to take over Canada with their corporations. They are manly just our military ally, economoically though, they are destryoing us. Damn Free Trade!" -- Joakim Ziegler - Ximian web monkey - joakim@ximian.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.ximian.com/ From benb at iastate.edu Tue Feb 13 16:11:14 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Jeopardy Message-ID: <3A89CD22.7E0B8CF2@iastate.edu> One of the categories is 'Speaking Esperanto' today. I want to learn Esperanto, but there isn't an Esperanto class here. Guess I'll have to learn it online... From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Feb 13 16:14:45 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Gold, Baby, sept 9th. In-Reply-To: ; from chris@dibona.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:26:56PM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20010213161445.I7555@linuxmafia.com> begin Chris J. DiBona quotation: > So I don't know if you knew it, but chris and I moved to Placerville about > 2 hours east of SF (1 hour east of sacramento, which will be know by it's > airport designation "smf" because it looks like smurf).... That would put you a lot closer to PVF = Placerville Airport (El Dorado County's airport), at the east end of town. (Not certified for airline use, dusk-to-dawn operation only, runway length 685 meters.) Not that you asked, but I _am_ after all an airline brat. > ...we'd love to have people over to the new place to see the house, > baby and bask in the coolnees that is Sept 9th, 2001. Since the 9th is > Sunday, it demands a party (or par-tah) on Saturday the 8th, so we can > usher in the day properly. Sounds great! I'm bringing berry pies. -- Cheers, Before enlightenment, caffeine. Rick Moen After enlightenment, caffeine. rick@linuxmafia.com From nutella at zork.net Tue Feb 13 16:20:38 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canazis. In-Reply-To: <20010213185240.G4340@ximian.com>; from joakim@ximian.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 06:52:40PM -0600 References: <20010213185240.G4340@ximian.com> Message-ID: <20010213162038.A12142@zork.net> 13Feb2001 06:52PM (-0600) From [joakim@ximian.com] joakim [Joakim Ziegler] > >"The USA is sometimes Canada's ally but they think they own the world and > are trying to take over Canada with their corporations. They are manly > just our military ally, economoically though, they are destryoing us. > Damn Free Trade!" I see Canadia is going the same route as the USA concerning the "No, that is not incorrect. That is exactly the way we spell those words in this country." - or maybe "manly" was a Freudian slip... Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 16:30:29 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <3A89C61A.5029E420@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:41:14PM -0600 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au> <3A89C61A.5029E420@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20010213163029.H17910@zork.net> begin Ben Brockert quotation: > Mon Sep 9 01:46:40 1935 > > I think MacPerl is b0rken. Probably a 24-bit-ism, or maybe Macs use like 1980 as an epoch. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 16:30:48 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au>; from rick@praxis.com.au on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 08:54:15AM +1100 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <20010213163048.I17910@zork.net> begin Rick Welykochy quotation: > Monkey Master wrote: > > > date +%s says we're at 982088020 now. > > 982101199 982110641 Thank you, drive through. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 16:44:40 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213163330.A24205@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:33:30PM -0500 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com> <20010213101725.B30718@zgp.org> <20010213105344.D19775@claire.namodn.com> <20010213163330.A24205@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20010213164440.J17910@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > http://www.agendacomputing.com Dig the "rsync cradle". -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 13 16:45:54 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [i0lanthe@yahoo.com: robotfindskitten] Message-ID: <20010213164553.K17910@zork.net> Wowee! ----- Forwarded message from B Spitznagel ----- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:41:47 -0800 (PST) From: B Spitznagel Subject: robotfindskitten To: unclepedro@users.sourceforge.net, monkeymaster@users.sourceforge.net Greetings, o non-Leonard admins (for I have already conversed with Leonard), I have ported robotfindskitten to the PalmOS in order to provide the world with (a) pocket-sized robot-finding-kitten goodness and (b) a sort of highly evolved "hello world" for the bemusement of fledgling linux-based PalmOS programmers. Well, really I did it because a friend dared me to, but that's not what I'm here to talk about. It seems like the most sensible place to provide (a) and (b) [that is, the executable and source for the PalmOS port] at would be the robotfindskitten project (maybe as a separate package since the source code and build process (well, the makefile) is rather different), subject to your approval. Let me know what you think of this general idea and we can work out details or alternatives. (I have screenshots so you don't need to be able to run the executable to see what it looks like.) Bridget Spitznagel i0lanthe at users.sourceforge.net ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From joey at kitenet.net Tue Feb 13 16:47:08 2001 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: ; from spwhite@chariot.net.au on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 09:16:20AM +1030 References: <20010213130845.D5119@aztech-cs.com> Message-ID: <20010213164708.I16429@kitenet.net> Stephen White wrote: > $ ruby -e 'puts Time.at(10**9)' while [ `expr length $(date +%s)` = 9 ] && :(){ :;:;};do :;done;date Slow. Stupid. Shell. -- see shy jo From rick at praxis.com.au Tue Feb 13 17:17:07 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Jeopardy In-Reply-To: <3A89CD22.7E0B8CF2@iastate.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Ben Brockert wrote: > One of the categories is 'Speaking Esperanto' today. > > I want to learn Esperanto, but there isn't an Esperanto class here. > Guess I'll have to learn it online... damn! babel doesn't do esperanto! From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Feb 13 17:24:46 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:17 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canazis. In-Reply-To: <20010213185240.G4340@ximian.com>; from joakim@ximian.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 06:52:40PM -0600 References: <20010213185240.G4340@ximian.com> Message-ID: <20010213172446.A11745@zgp.org> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 06:52:40PM -0600, Joakim Ziegler wrote: > http://www.geocities.com/nscwp88/canada.htm Fucking asshole GIF user doesn't even know how to make a link to the lame-ass GIF site he got his stupid GIFs from. And if they were really proud to be Canadian they would have .ca domain names. Losers. "Check it out! I would make a link for you but my html thing won't read it right so just copy and past this into your address bar: http://canflag.ptbcanadian.com" -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Feb 13 17:33:11 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canazis. In-Reply-To: <20010213172446.A11745@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:24:46PM -0800 References: <20010213185240.G4340@ximian.com> <20010213172446.A11745@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010213203311.R321@samurai.com> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:24:46PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > > Fucking asshole GIF user doesn't even know how to make a link to the > lame-ass GIF site he got his stupid GIFs from. And if they were really > proud to be Canadian they would have .ca domain names. Losers. Especially now that .ca is deregulated, and no longer run by a bunch of anal academics. Now it's run by a bunch of incompetent dorks. > http://canflag.ptbcanadian.com" I do not endorse this site. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From jdub at aphid.net Tue Feb 13 17:37:26 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Apparently, we're *all* evil. In-Reply-To: <20010213164440.J17910@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:44:40PM -0800 References: <6uwvavgdaf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010213024141.A18222@claire.namodn.com> <20010213092302.B17910@zork.net> <20010213100901.Z7555@linuxmafia.com> <20010213101725.B30718@zgp.org> <20010213105344.D19775@claire.namodn.com> <20010213163330.A24205@stu.ddts.net> <20010213164440.J17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010214123726.B32386@scooter.s1.nxt> > Dig the "rsync cradle". Someone at linux.conf.au had an Agenda, and was showing it around (a lot, plenty or drooling going on). Everyone who saw it was especially impressed when Tridge declared computers that could run rsync 'suddenly useful'. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- "Can we have a special TELSABUG category, and everything gets dropped to fix them first?" - Telsa Gwynne From joe at barrera.org Tue Feb 13 17:43:11 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <3A89C61A.5029E420@iastate.edu> References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <20010213102329.C30718@zgp.org> <3A89AD56.397C19C0@praxis.com.au> <3A89C61A.5029E420@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <14985.58031.294000.798056@barrera.org> Ben Brockert writes: > Mon Sep 9 01:46:40 1935 Damn! We missed it already! From robert at namodn.com Tue Feb 13 17:47:52 2001 From: robert at namodn.com (Rob Helmer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canazis. Message-ID: <20010213174752.B31614@claire.namodn.com> On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:24:46PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 06:52:40PM -0600, Joakim Ziegler wrote: > > > http://www.geocities.com/nscwp88/canada.htm > > Fucking asshole GIF user doesn't even know how to make a link to the > lame-ass GIF site he got his stupid GIFs from. And if they were really > proud to be Canadian they would have .ca domain names. Losers. > > "Check it out! I would make a link for you but my html thing won't > read it right so just copy and past this into your address bar: > http://canflag.ptbcanadian.com" Sweet! gnome-term makes his html thing work right! this makes him right. -- Rob Namodn From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 13 18:16:22 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mr.bad@pigdog.org: Re: Smiley Markup Language - really is a valuable technology!!!] Message-ID: <20010213181622.L17910@zork.net> I'm in a big software design meeting, so all I'm doing is just forwarding shit! Yaaay! ----- Forwarded message from "Mr. Bad" ----- >>>>> "RKT" == Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga writes: RKT> I thoroughly enjoyed your little blurb about our 'Smiley RKT> Markup Language'. However, there really isn't any way to RKT> convey emotion (or our thoughts and motivations) directly RKT> through the Internet...it really is an important step to take RKT> and promising standard! Jeez, man. People have been using the written language for THOUSANDS of YEARS without having to do emotional markup. It's called CONTEXT, and it's quite sufficient to express thoughts, emotions, and motivations. Jonathan Swift didn't put a ";-)" at the end of "A Modest Proposal", and Hunter Thompson didn't need a "J/K" at the end of "The Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved." People who can't make this stuff clear with the 127 characters the ASCII gods gave us should get the hell off the Internet -- or at least keep their damn thoughts to a minimum. RKT> You probably would want to remove it from your RKT> 'laughable_technology' section, and herald it as the RKT> panacea for world peace! chance. I think that the application of XML to the realm of emoticons is completely ridiculous, and the link's staying in the Laughable Technology bin. Good luck on getting better press in the future, ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From benb at iastate.edu Tue Feb 13 18:52:52 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> <20010213163048.I17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A89F303.FE65EE83@iastate.edu> Monkey Master wrote: > begin Rick Welykochy quotation: > > Monkey Master wrote: > > > date +%s says we're at 982088020 now. > > 982101199 > 982110641 > > Thank you, drive through. That's the MacPerl problem. This: print localtime(time)."\n".time."\n".localtime(0)."\n"; yields this: Tue Feb 13 20:40:09 2001 3064941609 Fri Jan 1 00:00:00 1904 Why 1904? Thus, 10**9 was Mon Sep 9 01:46:40 1935 2*10**9 was Thu May 18 03:33:20 1967 3*10**9 was Sun Jan 24 05:20:00 1999 4*10**9 is Wed Oct 2 07:06:40 2030 And yet, I somehow doubt anyone gave cared on September 9, 1999, or now... Ben From aaronl at vitelus.com Tue Feb 13 18:59:03 2001 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <3A89F303.FE65EE83@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 08:52:52PM -0600 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> <20010213163048.I17910@zork.net> <3A89F303.FE65EE83@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> I'm an ex-mac programmer... so beware. The macintosh starts counting in seconds from Jan 1. 1904. Don't ask why. It does, however. On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 08:52:52PM -0600, Ben Brockert wrote: > That's the MacPerl problem. This: > > print localtime(time)."\n".time."\n".localtime(0)."\n"; > > yields this: > > Tue Feb 13 20:40:09 2001 > 3064941609 > Fri Jan 1 00:00:00 1904 > > Why 1904? > > Thus, 10**9 was Mon Sep 9 01:46:40 1935 > 2*10**9 was Thu May 18 03:33:20 1967 > 3*10**9 was Sun Jan 24 05:20:00 1999 > 4*10**9 is Wed Oct 2 07:06:40 2030 > > And yet, I somehow doubt anyone gave cared on September 9, 1999, or now... > > Ben > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From joey at kitenet.net Tue Feb 13 19:09:19 2001 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 06:59:03PM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> <20010213163048.I17910@zork.net> <3A89F303.FE65EE83@iastate.edu> <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20010213190919.D28902@kitenet.net> Aaron Lehmann wrote: > I'm an ex-mac programmer... so beware. > > The macintosh starts counting in seconds from Jan 1. 1904. Don't ask > why. It does, however. January 1, 1904, was chosen as the base for the Macintosh clock because it was the first leap year of the twentieth century. 1900 wasn't a leap year because leap years are skipped every 100 years for three centuries. On the fourth century, which will be the year 2000, the leap year isn't skipped. This means that by starting with 1904, Macintosh system programmers could save a half dozen instructions in their leap-year checking code, which they thought was way cool. http://www.mactech.com/articles/develop/issue_28/minow.html I'd be rather suprised if linux on a mac starts at 1904 too, though. -- see shy jo From rick at praxis.com.au Tue Feb 13 19:22:02 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > I'm an ex-mac programmer... so beware. > > The macintosh starts counting in seconds from Jan 1. 1904. Don't ask > why. It does, however. ever try to calculate the unix epoch time of someone born in 1969? From mr.bad at pigdog.org Tue Feb 13 19:29:49 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87vgqeq6vm.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: >> The macintosh starts counting in seconds from Jan >> 1. 1904. Don't ask why. It does, however. RW> ever try to calculate the unix epoch time of someone born in RW> 1969? I was born in 1968. What is my unix epoch time? ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jdub at aphid.net Tue Feb 13 19:32:07 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 06:59:03PM -0800 References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> <20010213163048.I17910@zork.net> <3A89F303.FE65EE83@iastate.edu> <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20010214143207.C32386@scooter.s1.nxt> > I'm an ex-mac programmer... so beware. So *that's* what it was. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Web development with PHP is like injecting pure rust with a high-pressure hose. For pain relief. From dkaiser at linuxcare.com Tue Feb 13 19:43:23 2001 From: dkaiser at linuxcare.com (David Kaiser) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Perjuring Running Dogs For the Man References: <87lmrarxp4.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <3A89FEDB.F8F52588@linuxcare.com> > >>Respectfully, > >> > >>Hemanshu Nigam > >>Director > >>Worldwide Internet Enforcement ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Isn't that title a complete oxymoron? Only someone who would back the DCMA would take on an idiotic title like that. -- dkaiser@linuxcare.com From joey at kitenet.net Tue Feb 13 19:52:27 2001 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: ; from rick@praxis.com.au on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 02:22:02PM +1100 References: <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20010213195227.F28902@kitenet.net> Rick Welykochy wrote: > ever try to calculate the unix epoch time of someone born in > 1969? typedef long int __time_t; joey@kite:~>perl -le 'use Date::Parse; print str2time("august 15th, 1969")' -11984400 -- see shy jo From rick at praxis.com.au Tue Feb 13 20:04:44 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <87vgqeq6vm.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: On 13 Feb 2001, Mr. Bad wrote: > >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: > > >> The macintosh starts counting in seconds from Jan > >> 1. 1904. Don't ask why. It does, however. > > RW> ever try to calculate the unix epoch time of someone born in > RW> 1969? > > I was born in 1968. What is my unix epoch time? stardate -3.4.17 (supplemental) From rick at praxis.com.au Tue Feb 13 20:06:14 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Perjuring Running Dogs For the Man In-Reply-To: <3A89FEDB.F8F52588@linuxcare.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, David Kaiser wrote: > > > >>Respectfully, > > >> > > >>Hemanshu Nigam > > >>Director > > >>Worldwide Internet Enforcement > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Isn't that title a complete oxymoron? No, a complete oxymoron would contain three mutually contradictive words. In this case Hemanshu and Corpus Dilectae co-convene. From nick at zork.net Tue Feb 13 22:09:32 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] From an old MIT telephony list from the 1980s Message-ID: <20010213220932.P17910@zork.net> ------------------------------ From: fmsystm!macy@hal.uucp Subject: More True Stories of Telephony Date: Fri Sep 22 17:21:23 1989 One of the best telephone jokes I've ever heard. And like any good telephone joke, it strikes a chord in all of us from the industry. If you haven't worked with Special Services, you may not appreciate it fully... Did you hear about the Telephone Man who was drafted into the Army? Seems he did well enough until he got out on the rifle range. As the sergeant approaches, he notices the Telephone man has his M-16 on full automatic and is blazing away firing rounds at a phenomenal rate. There's a rapidly growing pile of spent cartridges on the ground next to him. The Sergeant lifts his field glasses to observe the accuracy of this over confident trainee, and sees absolutely no marks on the target. Now, Sergeants are painstakingly trained by Uncle Sam to build the confidence and ability of all boot camp soldiers, so the Sergeant sizes up the situation and acts: "Soldier, you've wasted hundreds of perfectly good rounds of ammuntion and a thousand dollars of the taxpayer's good money and you haven't hit the target once! What in the [several arcane military terms deleted] is wrong here?" Now the Telephone Man knows he must immediately analyse the situation and correct the problem. His years of technical training from Ma Bell are called into play: The Telephone Man looks down the barrel of the gun. Then he carefully inspects the chamber. (Probably looking for the KS number so he can refer to the correct BSP for this weapon, no doubt.) He then rams a cartridge home into the chambers, arms the weapon, puts his finger over the end of the barrel and pulls the trigger. Of course, this neatly blows off the tip of his finger. The Telephone Man inspects the end of his finger, and thinks for a moment... "Well, gee, Sarge, I don't rightly know what the problem is...but it must be at the other end, 'cause its leaving here just fine!" Macy Hallock fmsystm!macy@NCoast.ORG F M Systems, Inc. hal!ncoast!fmsystm!macy 150 Highland Dr. uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!fmsystm!macy Medina, OH 44256 Voice: 216-723-3000 X251 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V9 #402 ***************************** -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Feb 13 22:19:08 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] From an old MIT telephony list from the 1980s In-Reply-To: <20010213220932.P17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:09:32PM -0800 References: <20010213220932.P17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010213221908.Q17910@zork.net> From that same archive: ------------------------------ From: Brian Kantor Subject: Re: Real Time Translations Date: 25 Sep 89 20:40:31 GMT Reply-To: Brian Kantor Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Because the old 5-level Baudot machines were notorious for mechanical difficulties, there was an end-of-line sequence that became nearly universal. It was CR-CR-LF-LTRS-SPACE. It got to the point where I could practically type that as one fluid movement, and later I programmed it into some communications software that had to talk to the beasts. The reasoning was: Two CRs to make SURE that the carriage returned, since lots of the old machines would simply pile up letters on the right margin if it missed one - and that would mean that you'd miss a whole LINE of text. Also, if the carriage bar (the rod that the carriage slid on) had gotten dirty or the oil had gotten gummy (as it did every few months), the carriage would return very slowly which could lead to the next few characters printing backwards across the page. LF to advance the paper. It would have been more dependable to send two of these but we didn't want to waste paper. LTRS to make sure the machine was back in letters mode, and also to give the carriage just a little bit longer to get all the way to the left side of the paper. SPACE because the repair technicians didn't alway get the left travel stop adjusted properly and the first two letters on the left often piled up on top of each other, especially if the rubber bumper had swollen with age - or absorbed oil. - Brian ------------------------------ -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at zork.net Wed Feb 14 00:41:31 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> (Aaron Lehmann's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:59:03 -0800") References: <20010213100951.D17910@zork.net> <20010213101411.E17910@zork.net> <3A89AD07.E482E785@praxis.com.au> <20010213163048.I17910@zork.net> <3A89F303.FE65EE83@iastate.edu> <20010213185903.A9996@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <6uhf1xhd1g.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "AL" == Aaron Lehmann writes: AL> I'm an ex-mac programmer... so beware. An ex-mac programmer who wrote a hack to auto-hide the menu-bar! Sick, sick, sick. AL> The macintosh starts counting in seconds from Jan AL> 1. 1904. Don't ask why. It does, however. That explains the fucked up epoch that Excel has perpetuated in the Windows version, then. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Wed Feb 14 00:43:28 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: (Rick Welykochy's message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:04:44 +1100 (EST)") References: Message-ID: <6ud7clhcy7.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: RW> stardate -3.4.17 (supplemental) "Supplemetal" refers to a log entry, and not to the current stardate. Shut up and fuck off. If you must defend yourself, continue on the Star Track list. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Feb 14 01:38:58 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Perjuring Running Dogs For the Man In-Reply-To: <87lmrarxp4.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@shithousecrazy.com on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 03:05:11PM -0800 References: <87lmrarxp4.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010214013858.G672@zork.net> Mr . Bad writes: > Check this crazy action! Perjuring bastards! > > ~Mr. Bad > > ---8<--- > From: "Collin Evans" > To: > Subject: DeCSS > Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:27:51 -0500 > > Mr. Bad, > > Thought you might like to know that I received a letter from the MPAA about > hosting your version of DeCSS at my website. In addition, my ISP (which > happens to be my high school) got all up in arms about it, threatened to > take my account away, my website down and dump hot oil all over me. While > I'm sure that once they realize I didn't do anything wrong nothing will > happen, I thought it might amuse you. The fact that the MPAA didn't even > check to see what was being hosted is quite funny in my opinion. The letter > from the MPAA follows. If you have any other questions, please feel free to > e-mail me. > > Collin Evans > > ---------------- > > From: MPAA > >>Subject: Unauthorized Distribution of DeCSS (File #73891) > >>To: sstott@andover.edu > >>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:53:41 -0500 > >>X-MIMETrack: Serialize by POP3 Server on athena/PAA(Release 5.0.5 > >|September 22, 2000) at > >> 02/13/2001 08:52:39 AM, > >> Serialize complete at 02/13/2001 08:52:39 AM > >> > >> > >>MOTION PICTURE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA, INC. > >>15503 VENTURA BOULEVARD > >>ENCINO, CALIFORNIA 91436 > >> > >>UNITED STATES > >>Anti-Piracy Operations > >>PHONE: (818) 728 - 8127 > >>Email: MPAA23@pacbell.net > >> > >>Monday, February 12, 2001 > >> > >>Name: Sasan > >>E-mail: sstott@andover.edu > >>ISP: Trustees of Phillips Academy Hmmm, Phillips Andover is a very reputable school. I would think they would have upstanding alums who would be disappointed at the suggestion that publishing (either) DeCSS is inconsistent with the school's mission. I wish my high school had students who were interested in publishing DeCSS. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From jmorris at intercode.com.au Wed Feb 14 01:44:05 2001 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <6ud7clhcy7.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: On 14 Feb 2001, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: > > RW> stardate -3.4.17 (supplemental) > > "Supplemetal" refers to a log entry, and not to the current stardate. Well, thank fuck someone around here knows all about propietary Hollywood calendar systems. > Shut up and fuck off. If you must defend yourself, continue on the > Star Track list. Penis! - James -- James Morris From rick at praxis.com.au Wed Feb 14 03:05:25 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix References: <6ud7clhcy7.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <3A8A6675.C9120829@praxis.com.au> Irish Bastard wrote: > "Supplemetal" refers to a log entry, and not to the current stardate. > Shut up and fuck off. If you must defend yourself, continue on the > Star Track list. Are you really a potato muncher? Or does your moniker refer to your lineage? -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Try Linux" From sneakums at zork.net Wed Feb 14 03:49:46 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <3A8A6675.C9120829@praxis.com.au> (Rick Welykochy's message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:05:25 +1100") References: <6ud7clhcy7.fsf@zork.zork.net> <3A8A6675.C9120829@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <6u8zn9h4bp.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "RW" == Rick Welykochy writes: RW> Are you really a potato muncher? Or does your moniker refer to RW> your lineage? Stick around long enough and you might find out. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From sneakums at zork.net Wed Feb 14 04:01:35 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me Message-ID: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=19965 > "People want to do more and more with their PCs," Gates > says. "Windows XP builds on their dreams, taking the power and > adaptability of the PC to a new level. It delivers on our vision of > bringing the most advanced Windows ever to home users, unlocking the > true and amazing potential of everyone's PC." > Windows XP is based around the idea of integrating "experiences" > into the operating system. For example, XP introduces the new "Luna" > look and feel, which the company says is very easy to use, yet > incredibly powerful for all types of users. The new user interface > facilitates task- or activity-based computing, and is the most > significant update to the Windows interface since Windows 95. The one "experience" that they will not be integrating is that of a computer that just works and doesn't patronise the user. ("This folder contains vital system files. If you're sure you won't sneeze, lean on the mouse and fuck everything up accidentally, click here.") -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From jdub at aphid.net Wed Feb 14 04:18:02 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213164708.I16429@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:47:08PM -0800 References: <20010213130845.D5119@aztech-cs.com> <20010213164708.I16429@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20010214231801.H11371@aphid.net> > Slow. Stupid. Shell. Speedy. Shell. SLUG. date -d '1970/01/01 utc + 1000000000 sec' /me kicks spoob in the pants. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- Australians don't dislike Americans, we just dislike the sight, sound and thought of them. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Feb 14 06:14:54 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [i0lanthe@yahoo.com: robotfindskitten] In-Reply-To: <20010213164553.K17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:45:54PM -0800 References: <20010213164553.K17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010214081454.B3632@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Nick Moffitt: > I have ported robotfindskitten to the PalmOS in order to provide the > world with (a) pocket-sized robot-finding-kitten goodness and (b) a > sort of highly evolved "hello world" for the bemusement of fledgling > linux-based PalmOS programmers. Well, really I did it because a > friend dared me to, but that's not what I'm here to talk about. Hopefully by the end of today you will be able to download the source and/or a binary from http://sourceforge.net/projects/rfk/ pedro From sneakums at zork.net Wed Feb 14 08:12:28 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] GAA Terms Message-ID: <6uvgqdfdlf.fsf@zork.zork.net> If you ever find yourself on a mission in Ireland, furthering an EVIL PLAN, these terms might help you blend in: (GAA, by the way, is the Gaelic Athletic Association, more properly known as Cumann Luthcleas Gael, or CLCG). --- Begin Forwarded Crap --- Holly - eg "I gave it holly" - I put a fair bit of effort into it Bollix - Pat Spillane or any Meath players or supporters Mighty - very good Hames - a right shite - eg. "he made a hames of that clearance" Timber - intimidation of a hurling opponent - eg. "show him some timber"! Lamp - a good thump - eg. "I swung for the sliotar, missed by 3 feet and lamped their fullback" A Crowd - A gathering of people that watch a match and hope for random acts of violence eg. "that crowd from Meath are a right shower of shites" Schkelp - To remove living tissue in the absence of surgical procedures eg - "That shite from Tipp took a schkelp out of my leg" Hatchet Man - Mountainy type, uses hunter/gatherer instincts. Bullin' - angry - eg "the centre half back was bullin' after I lamped him" Bull thick - very angry - eg "the centre half back was bull thick when I lamped him again" Joult - a push - eg "I gave him a joult and he has to wear a neck brace for two weeks" The Comm-a-teeee - Local GAA bullshitters in general Bushted - an undefined soreness eg. "Jayz me arm is bushted" The Bomber - a very popular nickname for a fat, hairy GAA player A hang sangwidge - consumed with " tay " on the sides of roads after matches in Croker or Thurles, usually contains half a pound of butter. Rake - A great amount of anything, usually pints of Guinness the night before an important match Namajaysus - "What was that for, referee?" Ya-bollix-ya - Corner back's formal recognition of a score by his opponent Leh-it-in-ta-fuck-would-ya - Full forward's appeal to a midfielder for a more timely delivery of the pass Mullocker - untidy or awkward player released for matches Burst the Bollix - Instruction to tackle your player. Row - Disagreement involving four or more players Massive Row - Disagreement involving both teams, including goalies, substitutes and supporters jumping fences Running Row - A massive row that continues out in the parking area and or dressing room areas usually resolved by the Gardai. --- End Forwarded Crap --- Questions? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From asf at acm.org Wed Feb 14 09:16:25 2001 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: Today, Irish Bastard wrote: >> Windows XP is based around the idea of integrating "experiences" >> into the operating system. Oh well, it looks like MS are (at last!) aiming to attract old-grown D&D junkies now. MS better make sure they get _lots_ of XP, then. And big, ugly monsters, too. -- Andreas Fuchs, , , antifuchs From bryanf at samurai.com Wed Feb 14 09:28:56 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: ; from asf@acm.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 06:16:25PM +0100 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010214122856.L321@samurai.com> On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 06:16:25PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > Oh well, it looks like MS are (at last!) aiming to attract old-grown D&D > junkies now. MS better make sure they get _lots_ of XP, then. And big, > ugly monsters, too. MS Windows of the Leech. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From joe at barrera.org Wed Feb 14 09:31:26 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <14986.49390.906000.97125@barrera.org> Andreas Fuchs writes: > Oh well, it looks like MS are (at last!) aiming to attract old-grown D&D > junkies now. MS better make sure they get _lots_ of XP, then. And big, > ugly monsters, too. Oh yeah, no problem. Start by looking in the registry. Lots of big ugly monsters in there. Twisty maze... - Joe From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 14 09:33:55 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010214093355.R17910@zork.net> I suppose it depends on your definition of "success". ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- brian@merilus.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Feb 14 10:43:47 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "IB" == Irish Bastard writes: IB> http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=19965 >> "People want to do more and more with their PCs," Gates >> says. "Windows XP builds on their dreams, taking the power and >> adaptability of the PC to a new level. It delivers on our >> vision of bringing the most advanced Windows ever to home >> users, unlocking the true and amazing potential of everyone's >> PC." I want to be able to share pictures with my family instantly. And setup should be a snap!. Also, email, news, sports, shopping on line -- it's all so easy! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 14 10:46:30 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 10:43:47AM -0800 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > I want to be able to share pictures with my family instantly. And > setup should be a snap!. Also, email, news, sports, shopping on line > -- it's all so easy! Wow. They got that SportsBall on them thar computurs? How do ya play? With a keyboard and screen? I think that's all part of the plot to DEHUMANIZE US WITH MACHINES. It's all so IMPERSONAL! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From asf at acm.org Wed Feb 14 10:54:33 2001 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <14986.49390.906000.97125@barrera.org> Message-ID: Today, Joseph S. Barrera, III wrote: >> MS better make sure they get _lots_ of XP, then. And big, ugly >> monsters, too. > Oh yeah, no problem. Start by looking in the registry. Lots of big > ugly monsters in there. Twisty maze... Mental note: ask game master for XP value of HKEY_CURRENT_USER. -- Andreas Fuchs, , , antifuchs From asf at acm.org Wed Feb 14 11:05:29 2001 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: Today, The nameless One wrote: > >> "People want to do more and more with their PCs," Gates > >> says. "Windows XP builds on their dreams, taking the power and > >> adaptability of the PC to a new level. It delivers on our > >> vision of bringing the most advanced Windows ever to home > >> users, unlocking the true and amazing potential of everyone's > >> PC." > I want to be able to share pictures with my family instantly. Try standing in front of them and looking like something. Voila! Visual experience! > And setup should be a snap! Grab the install CD tightly with both hands. Arrange your fingers such that both thumbs are near the center. Now pull your palms towards yourself and push your thumbs away. Voila! Emotional experience! > Also, email, news, sports, shopping on line Oh, now I get it. You wanted to do that in software? Sorry-we-can't-help-you, HAND. -- Andreas Fuchs, , , antifuchs From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Feb 14 11:12:24 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: MM> Wow. They got that SportsBall on them thar computurs? MM> How do ya play? With a keyboard and screen? I think that's MM> all part of the plot to DEHUMANIZE US WITH MACHINES. It's all MM> so IMPERSONAL! You know, I'm mad. Apparently this Windows XP builds on my dreams, taking the power and adaptability of the PC to a new level. I use Debian, and here's what Debian does: "Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer. An operating system is the set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run." WHAT!? None of this moon-man language! My computer is powerful and adaptable, dammit! Build on my fucking dreams! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Feb 14 11:15:52 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87n1bpdqjb.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "B" == Bad writes: B> WHAT!? None of this moon-man language! My computer is powerful B> and adaptable, dammit! Build on my fucking dreams! All right, I'm willing to meet Debian half-way and TELL it about my dreams, even though it appears the Windows XP does some kind of oneiromancy without needing my help. Anyways, I had this dream where I was naked and at school, and I had a test but I couldn't remember what course it was for or what room it was in. And then I woke up. Build on that. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bryanf at samurai.com Wed Feb 14 11:18:03 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 11:12:24AM -0800 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010214141803.D321@samurai.com> On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 11:12:24AM -0800, "Mr . Bad" wrote: > > WHAT!? None of this moon-man language! My computer is powerful and > adaptable, dammit! Build on my fucking dreams! I can't wait to see what MS comes up with based on *my* dreams! Here's hoping they don't go with the one where I show up for work with no clothes. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From zen at zork.net Wed Feb 14 11:20:56 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <87n1bpdqjb.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 11:15:52AM -0800 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87n1bpdqjb.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010214112056.D21973@zork.net> begin Mr . Bad quotation: > All right, I'm willing to meet Debian half-way and TELL it about my > dreams, even though it appears the Windows XP does some kind of > oneiromancy without needing my help. Anyways, I had this dream where I > was naked and at school, and I had a test but I couldn't remember what > course it was for or what room it was in. And then I woke up. Your dream is now the intellectual property of Debian, LLC. Additionally, it has been deemed unsuitable for use in real-world applications. Please desist from dreaming immediately. HAND. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 14 11:26:03 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <20010214141803.D321@samurai.com>; from bryanf@samurai.com on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 02:18:03PM -0500 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214141803.D321@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20010214112603.T17910@zork.net> begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > I can't wait to see what MS comes up with based on *my* dreams! > Here's hoping they don't go with the one where I show up for work > with no clothes. Ha ha. Okay, I'm declaring a month-long moratorium on dream jokes on this list. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mbp at linuxcare.com.au Tue Feb 13 17:31:43 2001 From: mbp at linuxcare.com.au (Martin Pool) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213164708.I16429@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:47:08PM -0800 References: <20010213130845.D5119@aztech-cs.com> <20010213164708.I16429@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20010213173143.C5576@linuxcare.com.au> On 13 Feb 2001, Joey Hess wrote: > while [ `expr length $(date +%s)` = 9 ] && :(){ :;:;};do :;done;date On my machine, this is fast and exciting: mbp/4 mbp$ bash mbp/4 mbp$ echo $BASH_VERSION 2.04.0(1)-release mbp/4 mbp$ while [ `expr length $(date +%s)` = 9 ] && :(){ :;:;};do :;done;date Segmentation fault It does look cool, though. -- Martin From bryanf at samurai.com Wed Feb 14 11:30:59 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <20010214112603.T17910@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 11:26:03AM -0800 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214104630.S17910@zork.net> <87r911dqp3.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010214141803.D321@samurai.com> <20010214112603.T17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010214143058.F321@samurai.com> On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 11:26:03AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > Ha ha. Okay, I'm declaring a month-long moratorium on dream > jokes on this list. Hey man, it's not my fault the hive mind is syncing up. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 14 14:00:42 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:18 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Greatest programmer on Earth Message-ID: <20010214140042.A17910@zork.net> The last message makes me wonder if he has a draft RFC about this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 89 13:40:13 EDT From: "Robert E. Seastrom" Subject: Master List of Internet Users Available > To obtain your copy -- > > telnet 128.146.1.5 4666| tail +4| compress > userlist.z ... > Allow about a minute for the full transmission! It is a > file... This is antisocial behavior of the worst kind! Blowing UNCOMPRESSED data across the network only to compress it on your end and then have to uncompress it again to read it will do two things: 1) It will eat a bit of CPU time on your machine. If you're on a single user workstation, then you aren't taking anyone else's cycles and that's fine. But if you are on a general-use timesharing system (like your organization's main VAX or something like that), you're bogging down system response for other users. 2) YOU ARE SENDING A LARGE AMOUNT OF UNCOMPRESSED DATA OVER A PUBLIC NETWORK. This will have detrimental effects on others who are using the network for telnets and FTPs. The explosive growth of the Internet over the past several years has made it well neigh impossible for the people who run NSFnet and the regionals to keep up with demand for network bandwidth. Don't make matters worse by capriciously moving large amounts of data over the Internet without compressing it first. There is no inherent benefit to sending a large file by telnet over sending it via FTP. I urge whoever is making this list available to the public to COMPRESS it, make it available for FTP, and have a mailbox set up so that people can send their information if they want to be included. I urge readers of TELECOM to NOT retrieve this file until it can be retrieved in a matter that is more considerate of others. ---R.E. Seastrom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 89 23:36:49 CDT From: TELECOM Moderator Subject: Re: Master List of Internet Users Available In the message just before this, I am roundly castigated for my anti-social behavior and for causing the untimely demise of the net. What a laugh. Frankly, Mr. Seastrom, you don't know what you are talking about. Here follows the *original* message from the directory compilers, AS IT APPEARED IN NEWS.ADMIN -- that old hangout of all the anti-social types here. Please note how the managers of the list at Ohio State University -- a fine, respected site on the net -- request that it be delivered. Please note also that in Unix lessons for the elementary beginning student, the letter 'Z' on the end of a file name indicates a compressed file. Please note also that contrary to the misguided information from the previous correspondent, the file *does come compressed*. Regardless, it is huge, even in compressed form. Now, here is the 'anti-social' message which started it all -- Article 3933 of news.admin: Path: accuvax.nwu.edu!tank!ncar!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu!hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu!bernstei From: bernstei@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,news.admin Subject: Pilot Project: User List Available Over Internet Message-ID: <278@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> Date: 2 Oct 89 20:24:53 GMT Sender: news@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu Followup-To: comp.mail.misc Distribution: usa Lines: 48 Xref: accuvax.nwu.edu comp.mail.misc:1198 news.admin:3933 As a pilot project, we are making available to the Internet a list of user names and electronic addresses. Please note that this project is not an official project of The Ohio State University. The list is compiled from public information only, by automatic methods. Do not mail requests to be added to the list; at this time we consider ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Internet security too low for an explicit add method. As of October 1, the list contains approximately ten thousand Internet names and addresses; it contains a few hundred non-Internet names and addresses, because our software isn't perfect. It uses about 450K of disk space, half that when compressed. We expect the list to double in size by December 1. We are investigating methods of expanding the list, verifying its accuracy, and removing outdated entries; for now, it is an unformatted, unreliable list with no guarantees of accuracy, suitable for manual searches. If this project proves useful and we are able to continue it, it should serve as a partial solution to the white pages problem while long-term solutions are designed. You need BSD UNIX telnet or its equivalent to obtain a copy of the list; hpuxa does not provide anonymous ftp access. Type ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ telnet 128.146.1.5 4666 | tail +4 | compress > userlist.Z followed by a line of anything, terminated by a line feed (not carriage return). After a few minutes, depending on your network speed, telnet will finish and the compressed list will be in userlist.Z. If you ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ interrupt telnet during this type (e.g., by typing ^]) the list will be mangled. Also, BSD telnet does not work in the background. [TELECOM Moderator's 'anti-social' note: Did YOU read the above paragraph carefully? Maybe RGS will go back and read it again! PT] The ``line of anything'' will be recorded here at hpuxa, along with your Internet address, for administration and to determine the popularity of the user list. You can leave no information at all, your username@host.domain and name if you want, or random garbage. This provides a convenient comment mechanism; precede your input by *** to ensure that human operators notice it. If this mechanism is abused, we will disable it. If you don't have tail or compress, just redirect the telnet output into a file. If you don't have telnet, UNIX, or an Internet connection, you cannot obtain the list from us at this time. Mail any lengthy comments to this address. If you complain about the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ operation of the list, make sure to suggest something better. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---Dan Bernstein, brnstnd@acf10.nyu.edu, bernstei@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu ===================================================== Mr. Bernstein, we thank you for your efforts on the list. And to our correspondent here who made such a stink, please direct your comments to Dan Bernstein -- let him know what a terrible thing he is promoting please. Maybe a copy to the University would be a good idea also. In the above reprint of the original message in news.admin, the emphasis marks - (^^^^^^^^ marks) are mine, and not part of the original. Your anti-social moderator, Patrick Townson ==================== From: kenr@bbn.com In article you write an unfortunate retort to a complaint about a transfer of a large uncompressed file. The instructions are > telnet 128.146.1.5 4666 | tail +4 | compress > userlist.Z >followed by a line of anything, terminated by a line feed (not >carriage return). After a few minutes, depending on your network >speed, telnet will finish and the compressed list will be in >userlist.Z. If you So far so good. If you're going to be a unix pedant you should try to get it right. The file doesn't "come compressed," and that's exactly why it has to be piped through "compress," on the receiving host after transmission. It ends up compressed because of that command (hence the .Z), but the compression occurs on the local system, and it's pretty clear from the instructions that the data gets sent along uncompressed. >What a laugh. Frankly, Mr. Seastrom, you don't know what you are >talking about. Sigh. Indeed? Mr. Bernstein, would you consider revising the operation of special port 4666 to allow for a compressed transmission? KENR@BBN.COM =============================== -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Feb 14 14:22:37 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] thousand million seconds of unix In-Reply-To: <20010213173143.C5576@linuxcare.com.au>; from mbp@linuxcare.com.au on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:31:43PM -0800 References: <20010213130845.D5119@aztech-cs.com> <20010213164708.I16429@kitenet.net> <20010213173143.C5576@linuxcare.com.au> Message-ID: <20010214142237.M672@zork.net> Martin Pool writes: > On 13 Feb 2001, Joey Hess wrote: > > > while [ `expr length $(date +%s)` = 9 ] && :(){ :;:;};do :;done;date > > On my machine, this is fast and exciting: > > mbp/4 mbp$ bash > mbp/4 mbp$ echo $BASH_VERSION > 2.04.0(1)-release > mbp/4 mbp$ while [ `expr length $(date +%s)` = 9 ] && :(){ :;:;};do :;done;date > Segmentation fault > > It does look cool, though. It would require infinite recursion depth. On my system it hits some kind of ulimit. Why not just usleep 300000? -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From joe at barrera.org Wed Feb 14 14:23:59 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org> Mr. Bad writes: > I want to be able to share pictures with my family instantly. And > setup should be a snap!. Also, email, news, sports, shopping on line > -- it's all so easy! Please remove brain slug before posting. Thank you. - Joe From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 14 14:27:56 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org>; from joe@barrera.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 02:23:59PM -0800 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20010214142756.B17910@zork.net> begin Joseph S. Barrera III quotation: > Mr. Bad writes: > > I want to be able to share pictures with my family instantly. And > > setup should be a snap!. Also, email, news, sports, shopping on > > line -- it's all so easy! > > Please remove brain slug before posting. Get off my list. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Feb 14 14:32:08 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org> References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org> Message-ID: <87wvasj3pz.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JSB" == Joseph S Barrera writes: >> I want to be able to share pictures with my family >> instantly. And setup should be a snap!. Also, email, news, >> sports, shopping on line -- it's all so easy! JSB> Please remove brain slug before posting. Get off my list. ~Mr.Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From joe at barrera.org Wed Feb 14 14:35:25 2001 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <20010214142756.B17910@zork.net> References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org> <20010214142756.B17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <14987.2093.482000.674094@barrera.org> Monkey Master writes: > begin Joseph S. Barrera III quotation: > > Mr. Bad writes: > > > I want to be able to share pictures with my family instantly. And > > > setup should be a snap!. Also, email, news, sports, shopping on > > > line -- it's all so easy! > > > > Please remove brain slug before posting. > > Get off my list. I'm sorry, I thought you would want to know that you had a Microsoft Marketing brain slug boring into your skull and forcing you to type Microsoft Marketing messages. Evidently it doesn't bother you. - Joe From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Feb 14 14:37:25 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Windows XP: the word "Luna" sounds suspiciously like "Aqua" to me In-Reply-To: <14987.2093.482000.674094@barrera.org>; from joe@barrera.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 02:35:25PM -0800 References: <6u4rxxh3s0.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87vgqdds0s.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <14987.1407.776000.139469@barrera.org> <20010214142756.B17910@zork.net> <14987.2093.482000.674094@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20010214143725.D17910@zork.net> begin Joseph S. Barrera III quotation: > I'm sorry, I thought you would want to know that you had a Microsoft > Marketing brain slug boring into your skull and forcing you to type > Microsoft Marketing messages. Evidently it doesn't bother you. Why are you still here? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 14 15:51:56 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010214155156.E17910@zork.net> Don't let the brain-slug door hit your brain-slug arse on the way out. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- napier@waste.org has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 14 15:52:25 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010214155224.F17910@zork.net> We get rid of the brain slug, and *this* is what we get? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- tranmans@hotmail.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Wed Feb 14 18:04:56 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [DarensList@DARE.com: The New D.A.R.E. Program] Message-ID: <20010214180455.G17910@zork.net> Gotta add ColdFusion into my spam filters. ----- Forwarded message from DarensList@DARE.com ----- From: DarensList@DARE.com To: nick@zork.net Subject: The New D.A.R.E. Program Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:20:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Allaire ColdFusion Application Server DO NOT REPLY TO THIS NEWSLETTER. [1]Click Here to Contact webmaster@dare.com [dare_mailing.jpg] _________________________________________________________________ February 14, 2001 The New D.A.R.E. Program WASHINGTON, DC, February 15, 2001-- The nation's largest and best-known substance abuse prevention program will be the beneficiary of an entirely new, state-of-the-art substance abuse prevention curriculum thanks to a $13.7 million grant that will be awarded by The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. [...] The University of Akron incorporated the most up-to-date evidence and science-based strategies for substance abuse prevention programming into the new curriculum. ----- End forwarded message ----- "It's the new-and-improved D.A.R.E.! Now with FACTS!" -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dsaklad at gnu.org Wed Feb 14 19:00:25 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] one-day Internet applications course on February 20 Message-ID: From: Philip Greenspun To: all-ai@ai.mit.edu Subject: one-day Internet applications course on February 20 Reply-to: philg@mit.edu Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:23:33 -0500 On February 20, I'm teaching a new one-day Internet applications course. The class is free (with a free lunch even!) and runs from 10:00 am to 4:30 pm. Here's what I'm trying to teach people: 1) ability to distinguish between good and bad Internet service ideas -- predicting stickiness 2) ability to select the appropriate tools and people to realize your service goals 3) how to build a common Internet service that is accessible from Web browsers, mobile phones (WAP and iMode), Internet appliances, and other Web services 4) a bit about voice interfaces to information systems, including an introduction to the VoiceXML standard 5) what is interesting from a service operator's and end-user's perspective about systems and standards such as XML, SOAP, Microsoft .NET, J2EE 6) the six required elements for a successful public online community 7) four optional elements for online community derived from sociology research The course is targeted at a general audience, ranging from MBA students who want to learn the shape of the tech world to former CEOs of dotbombed tech startups still trying to figure out how they managed to spend $87 million on a single Perl script. It is also good for engineers looking for a high-level perspective on what they're building. Bottom line: you can forward this invite to your friends in industry. Check http://philip.greenspun.com/teaching/one-day-internet for details of the new syllabus and http://www.arsdigita.com/events/event-info?event_id=2410 to just blast in a registration (free but since ArsDigita is ordering food they need a headcount). Regards, Philip From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Feb 14 21:06:01 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Too Hot for nettime-l!!!!!!! Message-ID: <877l2seds6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> The following piece of art was CENSORED by the moderators of nettime-l. Man, I guess I'm just too AVANT FUCKING GARDE for that list! Damnation! It's all right, I guess -- I understand that my work may be TOO CHALLENGING for the petty minds of the cyber-art world. 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Message-ID: Mock me. http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/ and particularily: http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/petersFashionPage.html sA Scott Allan From sneakums at zork.net Thu Feb 15 08:41:34 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. Message-ID: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/print/3012/ > Government and industry are not, actually, our friends, except in > the areas -- few in number and narrow in scope -- where their goals > and ours coincide. That's why the founding fathers put together a > Constitution and Bill of Rights designed not to give government > power but to limit the power of government. The philosopher James > Burnham many years ago articulated the truism that it's impossible > to do just one thing -- that you'll perhaps achieve the desired > effect, but you'll achieve some unanticipated effects as well. The > convenience of having a voice in your dashboard tell you where you > are comes with the risk of anyone being able to track you down, for > good or ill. The convenience of macros that execute automatically > when they arrive in an email message is counterbalanced by > vulnerability to attack. Some -- me -- would say more than > counterbalanced. ... > That's why it's worrisome that so many people talk about moving > Linux into "the mainstream." Look at the mainstream: It's no place > to be. It's where people who put convenience ahead of quality, > reason, and freedom live. ... > The point is, the things that would take Linux to the mainstream are > also the things that would strip it of its Linux-ness. Our suspicion > is a good and healthy, and our vigilance is wise. Selling it to the > masses, though, would require such changes as would relax that > mistrust. What we really want is for the mainstream to suffer an > attack of good sense and move to us, and that ain'tagonna happen. Reasons to be cheerful, one, two, X... -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Feb 15 09:58:15 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't care. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Scott Allan wrote: > Mock me. > > http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/ > oh boy. here's the friend's only section: http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/pixyfriend.html no really javascript is a great security measure. especially when you put the verboten page in your robots.txt -- "I'd push him in the pool, too" -- Ben Franklin From pedro at flynn.zork.net Thu Feb 15 10:00:46 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what did you learn today in school... Message-ID: <20010215120046.Q3632@flynn.zork.net> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Peterson [mailto:kevinapeterson@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:11 AM To: Jed Anderson; peter Subject: what did you learn today in school... now, tell me if you ever heard this in one of your classes.... during my constitutional law class, we were talking about gays in the military. one guy, about 24 years old and engaged, raised his hand and made this comment: "I understand that troop moral is an important thing for the gov't to have in your army. i mean, you want your army to be happy. Now, I remember seeing movies where they had some army units made up of only black men, and they seemed happy and able to encourage each other. Why not just have a gay unit? they would be able to support each other and.... well, sleep with each other if that would make them happy. I know I'm always in a better mood after I have sex...." an embarassed laughter went though the crowd..... and that's what i learned in school today.... later kp -----End Forwarded Message----- From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Feb 15 11:00:31 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [DarensList@DARE.com: The New D.A.R.E. Program] In-Reply-To: <20010214180455.G17910@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 06:04:56PM -0800 References: <20010214180455.G17910@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010215110031.C31712@zgp.org> On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 06:04:56PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > From: DarensList@DARE.com > To: nick@zork.net And you said I was lame for reading the Drudge Report? For fuck's sake. I'll be up at the C2C conference (Clay 2 Clay) later this afternoon in time for Greg Aharonian's "softtware patenteers will own your sorry ass" talk. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Feb 15 11:10:43 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [DarensList@DARE.com: The New D.A.R.E. Program] In-Reply-To: <20010215110031.C31712@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:00:31AM -0800 References: <20010214180455.G17910@zork.net> <20010215110031.C31712@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010215111042.E3175@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > > From: DarensList@DARE.com > > And you said I was lame for reading the Drudge Report? For fuck's > sake. Um, hel-LO! This was SPAM! Someone found my address as associated with a site called "crackmonkey", and decided to send me some mildly related propaganda. > I'll be up at the C2C conference (Clay 2 Clay) later this afternoon > in time for Greg Aharonian's "softtware patenteers will own your > sorry ass" talk. Report! Report! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From lee at hexkey.co.uk Thu Feb 15 04:53:48 2001 From: lee at hexkey.co.uk (Lee Maguire) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Too Hot for nettime-l!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <877l2seds6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 09:06:01PM -0800 References: <877l2seds6.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010215125348.A19278@enzo.hexkey.org> [2001-02-14] Mr . Bad wrote: > The following piece of art was CENSORED by the moderators of > nettime-l. Man, I guess I'm just too AVANT FUCKING GARDE for that > list! Damnation! Truely, crackmonkey is the McSweeney's of "stuff". and why I don't read 0xdeadbeef any more. YOU ALL ROCK! From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Feb 15 11:25:11 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Buy cigarettes, pack your duffle bag. Message-ID: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> Attention: Microsoft crawls to Washington to beg for protection from Linux, thereby losing following among Ayn Rand fans. http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc When the Ayn Rand fans start showing up at your local Linux User Group, please prepare to disappear to the Secret Mountain Super-Productive Elite Smart People Stronghold. Bring smokes. That is all. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Feb 15 11:49:19 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Buy cigarettes, pack your duffle bag. In-Reply-To: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> References: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> Message-ID: <87lmr7d8w0.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "DM" == Don Marti writes: DM> Attention: Microsoft crawls to Washington to beg for DM> protection from Linux, thereby losing following among Ayn Rand DM> fans. DM> http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc Listen, you Linux people and your JOIN-US-NOW-AND-SHARE-THE-SOFTWARE commie atheist pinko ways are destroying our Freedom to Innovate! Too much government destroys the freedom to innovate! Too much Free Software destroys the freedom to innovate! Everyone is coming after our freedom to innovate! Of course, by "freedom to innovate" I mean "god-given right to make obscene amounts of money fairly effortlessly." Which is what is American and what we must defend! Even if we must use Gestapo tactics to eliminate the free distribution of information! Take this example: Man 1: "Excuse me, sir? How do I get to Zeitgeist?" Man 2: "Oh, it's on the corner of Duboce and Valencia. Go that way two blocks and take a left." Man 1: "Thank you! I sure am glad I didn't have to pay any money for the innovative Microsoft Map(TM) for the Windows CE platform, since I could simply 'pirate' the information from you." Man 2: "Yes! Ha ha ha!" As you can see, giving away free information hurts everyone. Now, consider THIS variation: Man 1: "Excuse me, sir? How do I get to Zeitgeist?" Man 2: "Oh, it's on the corner of Duboce and-- UGH!! Ow!" Cop 1: "All right, scumbag, up against the wall! You information sharers make me sick! You are under arrest, of course, but in order to inform you of your rights, I will require you to pay me for that information." Man 2: [Face in wall] "MMmf. OAKTAY. Heerfm A dalla." Cop 1: "It's a pleasure to serve you. Your dollar will help build more innovations in Miranda rights readings, and aid in the American way. Now, I'm going to need you to agree to this 'cuff-through' license agreement. By accepting these handcuffs, you accept the license I am about to read you. You have the right to remain silent..." Man 1: [Wandering off] "Hmm, I feel bad that I almost had a criminal 'hacker' put some 'pirate' location information in my brain. Thank goodness I escaped in time! I guess I'll go buy the innovative Microsoft Map(TM) for the Windows CE mobile platform." [Entering store] "I would like to buy the innovative Microsoft Map (TM) for the Windows CE mobile platform." Microsoft Person: "Yet more benefit to violently enforcing the American Way! With this sale, we are now free to innovate even finer software, including ways to share pictures with your entire family instantly." Cop 1: [Appearing incongruously and rubbing chin thoughtfully] "Hmmm... Sharing PICTURES, eh? UP AGAINST THE WALL, SCUMBAG!!!" As you can see, a world where no one is allowed to share free information would be much more humorous and ironic, and feature lots of funny cop-on-man violence. Therefore, the Pigdog Forensics Team proposes that Free Software be banned and Jim Allchin made Emperor of the Universe. Thank you for your time. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Feb 15 11:53:41 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Buy cigarettes, pack your duffle bag. In-Reply-To: <87lmr7d8w0.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:49:19AM -0800 References: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> <87lmr7d8w0.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010215115340.F3175@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > As you can see, a world where no one is allowed to share free > information would be much more humorous and ironic, and feature lots > of funny cop-on-man violence. With deliciously homoerotic overtones! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at shithousecrazy.com Thu Feb 15 12:10:36 2001 From: mr.bad at shithousecrazy.com (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Buy cigarettes, pack your duffle bag. In-Reply-To: <20010215115340.F3175@zork.net> References: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> <87lmr7d8w0.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010215115340.F3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <87g0hfd7wj.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: MM> With deliciously homoerotic overtones! Really? I hadn't even recognized that. Beaujolais! Yet another fine benefit of FREEDOM to INNOVATE! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad - mr.bad@shithousecrazy.com - http://www.shithousecrazy.com/ * s t a y * * r e a l * * b a d * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Feb 15 12:24:22 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Buy cigarettes, pack your duffle bag. In-Reply-To: <87g0hfd7wj.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@shithousecrazy.com on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:10:36PM -0800 References: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> <87lmr7d8w0.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20010215115340.F3175@zork.net> <87g0hfd7wj.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20010215122422.G3175@zork.net> begin Mr . Bad quotation: > >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master writes: > > MM> With deliciously homoerotic overtones! > > Really? I hadn't even recognized that. Beaujolais! Yet another fine > benefit of FREEDOM to INNOVATE! Great! Let's reconvene HUAC right now! ''I'm an American, I believe in the American Way,'' he said. ''I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat.'' Goddamn, Anchower! Let's hear it for mutually-assured destruction! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From geoperry at iww.org Thu Feb 15 12:38:54 2001 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] M$' Jim Allchin says Linux is un-American Message-ID: "America is a Christain Nation with a Capitalist system." - Ben Franklin "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government encourages open source; and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat." - Jim Allchin From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Feb 15 12:48:21 2001 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] M$' Jim Allchin says Linux is un-American In-Reply-To: ; from geoperry@iww.org on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:38:54PM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:38:54PM -0800, George J.P. Perry wrote: > > > "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the > government encourages open source; and I don't think we've done enough > education of policy makers to understand the threat." - Jim Allchin First article in which every quote is a Ditherati keeper. Submit your favorite today. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From mr.bad at shithousecrazy.com Thu Feb 15 13:04:57 2001 From: mr.bad at shithousecrazy.com (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] M$' Jim Allchin says Linux is un-American In-Reply-To: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org> References: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org> Message-ID: <874rxvd5dy.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "DM" == Don Marti writes: DM> First article in which every quote is a Ditherati keeper. DM> Submit your favorite today. My favorite part is this juxtaposition: "'Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer,' Allchin said. 'I can't imagine something that could be worse than this for the software business and the intellectual-property business.' [...] Despite Linux's success in some markets, Allchin says he isn't concerned about sales competition from the product." So, is it a threat or not, Mr. Anchower? ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad - mr.bad@shithousecrazy.com - http://www.shithousecrazy.com/ * s t a y * * r e a l * * b a d * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 15 13:19:19 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] irc.microsoft.aynrand.org Message-ID: <20010215131919.I3175@zork.net> [zork(~)] nmap microsoft.aynrand.org Starting nmap V. 2.12 by Fyodor (fyodor@dhp.com, www.insecure.org/nmap/) Interesting ports on webcluster2.forethought.net (216.241.39.2): Port State Protocol Service 21 open tcp ftp 22 open tcp ssh 23 open tcp telnet 25 open tcp smtp 80 open tcp http 110 open tcp pop-3 111 open tcp sunrpc 113 open tcp auth 143 open tcp imap2 179 filtered tcp bgp 513 open tcp login 514 open tcp shell 515 open tcp printer 654 open tcp unknown 1112 open tcp msql 2049 open tcp nfs 3333 open tcp dec-notes 5050 open tcp mmcc 6666 open tcp irc-serv 7000 open tcp afs3-fileserver Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 16 seconds So Lukas is on their IRC server right now poking around. Crazy! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From jdub at aphid.net Thu Feb 15 14:28:06 2001 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:41:34PM +0000 References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216092806.A9299@aphid.net> > > What we really want is for the mainstream to suffer an attack of good > > sense and move to us, and that ain'tagonna happen. > > Reasons to be cheerful, one, two, X... Love those arguments that require laboured use of shithouse English to get across their point. AIN'TAGONNA HAPPEN! - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- No clue is good clue. From nutella at zork.net Thu Feb 15 14:42:16 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] We need more urban legends. Message-ID: <20010215144216.A3668@zork.net> A recent probe into California's power fiasco revealed that employees at PG&E were forced to leave the lights on all the time to reduce the supply and increase demand. During the gloom of one of the resulting rolling blackouts a young woman was mauled and killed by a pet attack dog and its genetically cloned sibling. During the height of the media fuss the dogs' owner successfuly sued the victim's partner as one of the dogs had chipped a tooth on the victim's pelvis. The partner took the case to the Supreme Court where the jury decided unanimously in this partner's favour. The Court ignored the jury. Ralph Nader stepped in and made a strong appeal. The Court immediately named George W. Bush the winner. George W. Bush then had the partner humanely destroyed by lethal injection. When asked why he replied "Oops! Force of habit.". In a much publicised trial a person accused of gross manslaughter was released when they pleaded the "doggy defence". The dogs' owner made a small fortune appearing on talk shows which they invested in SOMA warehouses deserted by failed dot coms and used them to train fighting dogs for use by muggers, gangs and Republicans. Unfortunately the owner lost public favour when it was discovered that they had taken naked pictures of the dogs when they were only puppies. In the investigation into the recent submarine collision it was revealed that the pay raise promised the armed services was being funded by offering the public rides in military equipment. On the day in question a total of one hundred and twenty-seven of the one hundred and thirty crew positions were occupied by civilians. When the roster was released it was found that all of these were members of a Pearl Harbour Survivors group. The Japanese group might have been rescued more quickly but the Navy helicopter was that day crewed by the Higgins family who wanted to get home in time for the monologue. Amazon.com amazed financial experts when they finally made a profit when they quit selling items and instead sold the name "amazon.com" for a small fortune. They decided to invest in eBook technology ("because we have all these warehouses in which to store books"). The rest of the profit was swallowed up by Barnes & Noble's one-click patent counterclaim. Barnes & Noble's victory was short-lived as Iomega took them to court claiming that their "click of death" showed prior art. Microsoft released Windows 2000 SE (code name "Chad") which charges users by the keyclick. Florida residents failed in their attempt to gain refunds for partially pressed keys. Microsoft made much fuss over the fact that Chad can read ext2 partitions but this turned out to be merely a mechanism for scanning for saleable valid e-mail addresses. In 2002 Microsoft released Windows 2001 which turned out to be the Win2k GUI running over FreeBSD. All computer magazines proclaim it to be the most innovative thing they have ever done. Microsoft SQL server is a rebadged version of PostgreSQL, IIS is Apache and Exchange is qmail. When GPL infringements are challenged Microsoft sends its lawyers to visit armed with ferocious dogs. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From dkaiser at linuxcare.com Thu Feb 15 15:04:11 2001 From: dkaiser at linuxcare.com (David Kaiser) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Buy cigarettes, pack your duffle bag. References: <20010215112511.E31712@zgp.org> <87lmr7d8w0.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <3A8C606B.9D8907D2@linuxcare.com> OK, I love digging for info on the internet... I thought I'd like to find Jim Allchin's e-mail addy so I could give him a piece of my mind about this whole destroying of competition thing. I google'd for "allchin@" Well, so google didn't bring back the coveted e-mail address, but I've got his office number and fax number, ( http://www.thestandard.com/people/display/0,1157,2304,00.html ) I'm sure those are screened by some intern, so they're probably not any good. I keep searching and I stumble across how much Allchin contributed to the back pockets of Ashcroft, McCain, Gingrich, http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/com_detail/C00227546 ok, so actually, that link is a summary of the "Microsoft Corporation Political Action Committee", but if you dig around under the Individuals link, you can see details, in fact Mr. Allchin's home address is even listed on the scanned copy of the Schedule A form. Now, who wants to send a free copy of The Cathedral and the Bazaar to 3038 E. Laurelhurst, so Jim can read it at home... ;) Actually, what really sucks is that if you tally up the donations that have gone through this fund, you will see these Microsoft execs at the rate of $1000 or $5000 apiece donated $2,166,675 big ones to further ensure the corruption of American politicans (even Lieberman got $5000.) I'm sure they wouldn't call it corruption though, they would use terminology like protecting the freedom to innovate, or preventing that great intellectual property destroyer, Linux from being used in Government. $2,166,675.00 donated by Microsoft to politicians. -- David Kaiser, Linuxcare, Inc. From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 15:06:32 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010216092806.A9299@aphid.net> Message-ID: <3A8C60F8.2D9A1831@praxis.com.au> Jeff Waugh wrote: > Love those arguments that require laboured use of shithouse English to get > across their point. > > AIN'TAGONNA HAPPEN! But as Nikita Kruschev was right all along, so are plundering sycophants who read trash like this: http://www.chinaeastwind.com/trailerpark/ -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Bite me." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 15:14:35 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <3A8C60F8.2D9A1831@praxis.com.au> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010216092806.A9299@aphid.net> <3A8C60F8.2D9A1831@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <01021518143504.00917@workstation> well as they say over exposure to these things we sayt help us makes us slightly homicidal, and cycopathic a bit. MIA On Thursday 15 February 2001 18:06, Rick Welykochy wrote: > Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Love those arguments that require laboured use of shithouse English to > > get across their point. > > > > AIN'TAGONNA HAPPEN! > > But as Nikita Kruschev was right all along, so are plundering sycophants > who read trash like this: > > http://www.chinaeastwind.com/trailerpark/ > > > -- > Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited > "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Bite me." > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Feb 15 15:14:53 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021518143504.00917@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 06:14:35PM -0500 References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010216092806.A9299@aphid.net> <3A8C60F8.2D9A1831@praxis.com.au> <01021518143504.00917@workstation> Message-ID: <20010215151453.J3175@zork.net> I wondered where you had gone. Enjoy your vacation? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 15:24:48 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010215151453.J3175@zork.net> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021518143504.00917@workstation> <20010215151453.J3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021518244805.00917@workstation> I guess you can call it a frces computer vacation, had some problems with my isp's but got it all strightened out. dont' worry i missd you to. I will jsut wait for an oportunity to say something stupid or demeaning later to some one. MIA, Ariel AKA Overlord On Thursday 15 February 2001 18:14, Monkey Master wrote: > I wondered where you had gone. Enjoy your vacation? -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 15:24:03 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] We need more urban legends. References: <20010215144216.A3668@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A8C6513.957A6D6D@praxis.com.au> Bernard wrote: > A recent probe ... Confused when the burglars left the camera behind, Ben "Jugnuts" Tinia shrugged, ate dinner and brushed his teeth before going to bed. The next day he developed the film and was bemused to find pictures of his toothbrush probing the heliophobic canals of the perpetrators of the burglary. -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of eating a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Bite me." From nutella at zork.net Thu Feb 15 16:10:18 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] M$' Jim Allchin says Linux is un-American In-Reply-To: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:48:21PM -0800 References: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20010215161018.A7321@zork.net> 15Feb2001 12:48PM (-0800) From [dmarti@zgp.org] dmarti [Don Marti] > On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:38:54PM -0800, George J.P. Perry wrote: > > > > > First article in which every quote is a Ditherati keeper. Submit your > favorite today. "We can build a better product than Linux," he said. So, presumably they just choose not to do it? Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 16:47:45 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] M$' Jim Allchin says Linux is un-American References: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org> <20010215161018.A7321@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A8C78B1.1B0985F2@praxis.com.au> Bernard wrote: > > 15Feb2001 12:48PM (-0800) From [dmarti@zgp.org] dmarti [Don Marti] > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:38:54PM -0800, George J.P. Perry wrote: > > > > > > > > First article in which every quote is a Ditherati keeper. Submit your > > favorite today. Revisiting: "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat." s/open source/proprietary monopoly/ to convert the above into a true statement. s/the American Way/apple pie/ to convert the above into a recipe. -- Rickster Welykochy "Toiled while being a rash test mummy for Microsoft? Fly Linux" From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 17:21:01 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job Message-ID: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> Let's play spot the oxymorons. -- Senior VB Analyst/Programmer -- Our client is the preferred provider of management consulting and technical services to many of Australia's top companies. An opportunity awaits for a Senior VB Analyst/Programmer to become part of a large team within this company. The successful applicant will join the development team (12 people) and help build a sophisticated web application. The skills you will require are VB, ASP, PL/SQL, Com, ADO and HTML. You will also be experienced in Visual Interdev. To join this fast growing international company send your resume to jobs@bestpeople.com.au or call Lee Golgerth on 9566 4272. -- -- Dick Welykochy "Risible crash test dummy for Microsoft? Be Linux" From mdillon at standmed.com Thu Feb 15 17:23:59 2001 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:19 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rick Welykochy wrote: > Let's play spot the oxymorons. perhaps are they obscured behind the hypomoron in front? or the point is that only you are cool enough to see them? do tell. -md From jmorris at intercode.com.au Thu Feb 15 16:26:08 2001 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rick Welykochy wrote: > -- > Senior VB Drinker > -- Now here's an interesting job in Toronto: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~taustin/downloads/safsig/goodjob.jpg - James -- James Morris From dhd at eradicator.org Thu Feb 15 17:28:35 2001 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: Rick Welykochy's message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:21:01 +1100" References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <87r90zbem4.fsf@monolith.eradicator.org> Rick Welykochy writes: > Our client is the preferred provider of management consulting and technical > services to many of Australia's top companies. An opportunity awaits for a > Senior VB Analyst/Programmer to become part of a large team within this > company. > > The successful applicant will join the development team (12 people) and help > build a sophisticated web application. The skills you will require are VB, ASP, > PL/SQL, Com, ADO and HTML. You will also be experienced in Visual > Interdev. Isn't that just Australian for "you get to sit around drinking beer all day"? -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~dhd/ From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Feb 15 17:33:17 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rick Welykochy wrote: > Let's play spot the oxymorons. > jobs@bestpeople.com.au this is one, right? unless they're talking about people who are best at shagging kangaroos. my company has supplied me with guinness today. I am a happy employee. -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." -- Ben Franklin From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 18:10:30 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job References: Message-ID: <3A8C8C16.466E4D6D@praxis.com.au> James Morris wrote: > Now here's an interesting job in Toronto: > http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~taustin/downloads/safsig/goodjob.jpg The Globe and Mail reports that five of the test subjects are now suing the Dept of Otolaryngology at the UofT for whiplash cause by the experiments. -- Tick Telykochy || Ruxious Services Pty Limited "Mired by bringing a crash test dummy to Microsoft? Twy Rinux" From sween at modelm.org Thu Feb 15 18:30:36 2001 From: sween at modelm.org (sween) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] transportation for the bad people of the future Message-ID: http://www.solotrek.com http://www.moller.com --- | M | -sween --- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 19:42:15 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <01021522421500.01322@workstation> On Thursday 15 February 2001 20:21, Rick Welykochy wrote: > Let's play spot the oxymorons. I dont' seem to get the einglish teacher joke behind this. Like DHD said..."do tel" Maybe it was outa timing. Maybe your simply a cornball or it was a cornball moment. Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 20:30:13 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021522421500.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <3A8CACD5.463A3CBC@praxis.com.au> "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > I dont' seem to get the einglish teacher joke behind this. Like DHD > said..."do tel" > Maybe it was outa timing. Maybe your simply a cornball or it was a cornball > moment. I count 23 insults to correct English in the above. You must be a septic tank. Or rather, *you're* simply a lurid inebriated insecure dim-witted devolved insipid self-abusing cornholer. -- Tick Tick Welykochy "Hired a crash test dummy from Microsoft?" From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Feb 15 20:26:49 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021518244805.00917@workstation> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021518143504.00917@workstation> <20010215151453.J3175@zork.net> <01021518244805.00917@workstation> Message-ID: <87g0hfw8vq.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa writes: AVR> I guess you can call it a frces computer vacation Yeah, why the hell not? Sure. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 20:42:41 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <3A8CACD5.463A3CBC@praxis.com.au> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021522421500.01322@workstation> <3A8CACD5.463A3CBC@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <01021523424103.01322@workstation> On Thursday 15 February 2001 23:30, Rick Welykochy wrote: > I count 23 insults to correct English in the above. You must be a septic > tank. Or rather, *you're* simply a lurid inebriated insecure dim-witted > devolved insipid self-abusing cornholer. Yes yes the non-original MTV humore cornhole...been a while since i heard that one. Devolved hmmmmm I wonder about you. Do you always get this sensitive when you get insulted. How about attending a happieness clinic, maybe an anger managment course? I have a solution well I think migth requre you to achive orgasm though, the plan is shure to get you to lossen up the einglish teacher attitude. (soem times I mispel on purpose to tick anal probes like you off, guess you can call me a masuquist. heh, and some call me a genius) If you have any non-sleep triggering come backs please by all means. take a shot. dim-witted not likely....just a prick -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 20:53:24 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021522421500.01322@workstation> <3A8CACD5.463A3CBC@praxis.com.au> <01021523424103.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > If you have any non-sleep triggering come backs please by all means. take a > shot. > dim-witted not likely....just a prick sadistic whinging inconsequential emasculated drooling alcoholic smelly treacherous undernourished wannabe -richard not nixon From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 21:06:21 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021523424103.01322@workstation> <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> Message-ID: <01021600062104.01322@workstation> On Thursday 15 February 2001 23:53, Rick Welykochy wrote: > sadistic whinging inconsequential emasculated drooling alcoholic smelly > treacherous undernourished wannabe I seem to be developing an itch in my ass again. OH!! DARN!! I got to pull rick out again. Didn't i wanr you thats a bad plase to be. you only get youre self frustrated. Your cortex will stop working if you try to dig up an more sophisticated (yeah right) vocabulary out of it. Would you like my thesaurus? It has dust on it but it still works, unlike your sense of humor, or ability to say something shoking. Oh listen up the tiolet, only pure joy; hiorgliphics.  No. just ricks barin wasting -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From zen at zork.net Thu Feb 15 21:07:32 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021600062104.01322@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:06:21AM -0500 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021523424103.01322@workstation> <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> <01021600062104.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <20010215210732.A5866@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > I seem to be developing an itch in my ass again. OH!! DARN!! > I got to pull rick out again. > Didn't i wanr you thats a bad plase to be. > you only get youre self frustrated. Your cortex will stop working if you try > to dig up an more sophisticated (yeah right) vocabulary out of it. Would you > like my thesaurus? You have a thesaurus? Why? You have a thesaurus? Why? > It has dust on it but it still works, unlike your sense of humor, or ability > to say something shoking. Maybe you should hang onto it. Maybe you should hang onto it. > Oh listen up the tiolet, only pure joy; hiorgliphics. ?No. > just ricks barin wasting Want to try again? Want to try again? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From rick at praxis.com.au Thu Feb 15 21:23:16 2001 From: rick at praxis.com.au (Rick Welykochy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021523424103.01322@workstation> <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> <01021600062104.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <3A8CB944.32F29F26@praxis.com.au> "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > I seem to be developing an itch in my ass again. OH!! DARN!! > I got to pull rick out again. > Didn't i wanr you thats a bad plase to be. > you only get youre self frustrated. Your cortex will stop working if you try > to dig up an more sophisticated (yeah right) vocabulary out of it. Would you > like my thesaurus? > It has dust on it but it still works, unlike your sense of humor, or ability > to say something shoking. > > Oh listen up the tiolet, only pure joy; hiorgliphics. No. > just ricks barin wasting Excuse me for mistaking you for a septic. Only a pommie could spew out toilet humour for mutants. Et maintenant, le reponse regardant "oxymorons" dedans Dream Job: VB <--> Analyst/Programmer premiere occasion <--> VB ASP, ADO <--> application sophistique de Web equipe de developpement <--> plateforme de Microsoft le fournisseur prefere pour completer des compagnies <--> plateforme de Microsoft une grande equipe <--> 12 personnes -- Trick Welykochy or Practixe Services Pty Limited "We don't do VB around here." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Feb 15 21:49:52 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021600062104.01322@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:06:21AM -0500 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021523424103.01322@workstation> <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> <01021600062104.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <20010215214952.K3175@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > On Thursday 15 February 2001 23:53, Rick Welykochy wrote: > > sadistic whinging inconsequential emasculated drooling alcoholic > > smelly treacherous undernourished wannabe > > I seem to be developing an itch in my ass again. OH!! DARN!! > I got to pull rick out again. > Didn't i wanr you thats a bad plase to be. This is like watching epileptic children finger-paint. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 21:56:07 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010215210732.A5866@zork.net> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021600062104.01322@workstation> <20010215210732.A5866@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021600560706.01322@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 00:07, George Moffitt wrote: > You have a thesaurus? Why? > You have a thesaurus? Why? > > Maybe you should hang onto it. > Maybe you should hang onto it. > > Want to try again? > Want to try again? Great stutter boy is back. Nice to have ya. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From nick at zork.net Thu Feb 15 21:58:02 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20010215215802.L3175@zork.net> Jesux, did Australia just discover the innurnet or something? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- dezwart@iprimus.com.au has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From zen at zork.net Thu Feb 15 22:18:32 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010215214952.K3175@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:49:52PM -0800 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021523424103.01322@workstation> <3A8CB244.F7388FB7@praxis.com.au> <01021600062104.01322@workstation> <20010215214952.K3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010215221831.B5866@zork.net> begin Monkey Master quotation: > This is like watching epileptic children finger-paint. With a strobe light on. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 22:28:12 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010215221831.B5866@zork.net> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <20010215214952.K3175@zork.net> <20010215221831.B5866@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021601281207.01322@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 01:18, George Moffitt wrote: > begin Monkey Master quotation: > > This is like watching epileptic children finger-paint. > > With a strobe light on. My gosh the imagery, shit imagine seeing this. George do you stutte in your sleep to? -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From zen at zork.net Thu Feb 15 22:32:44 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021601281207.01322@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 01:28:12AM -0500 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <20010215214952.K3175@zork.net> <20010215221831.B5866@zork.net> <01021601281207.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <20010215223243.C5866@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > My gosh the imagery, shit imagine seeing this. > George do you stutte in your sleep to? Nope. Your commanding presence fills me with feelings of inadequacy, and I find it hard to form a coherent sentence. I especially liked the remark about the toilet, and the gay sex. That was really good stuff. Nope. Your commanding presence fills me with feelings of inadequacy, and I find it hard to form a coherent sentence. I especially liked the remark about the toilet, and the gay sex. That was really good stuff. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Feb 15 22:45:14 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010215223243.C5866@zork.net> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021601281207.01322@workstation> <20010215223243.C5866@zork.net> Message-ID: <0102160145140A.01322@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 01:32, George Moffitt wrote: > Nope. Your commanding presence fills me with feelings of > inadequacy, and I find it hard to form a coherent sentence. I > especially liked the remark about the toilet, and the gay sex. That > was really good stuff. > Nope. Your commanding presence fills me with feelings of > inadequacy, and I find it hard to form a coherent sentence. I > especially liked the remark about the toilet, and the gay sex. That > was really good stuff. well thank Gar Vilkaitis for inspiring me with a butt load of incoherent funny crap. stutter on my friend. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Feb 15 23:40:08 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <0102160145140A.01322@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 01:45:14AM -0500 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021601281207.01322@workstation> <20010215223243.C5866@zork.net> <0102160145140A.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > well thank Gar Vilkaitis for inspiring me with a butt load of > incoherent funny crap. How cute. He doesn't realize that it was his OWN incoherent crap being spewed back at him! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dezwart at iprimus.com.au Thu Feb 15 22:18:13 2001 From: dezwart at iprimus.com.au (Pete Black) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010215215802.L3175@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:58:02PM -0800 References: <20010215215802.L3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216171813.B1133@mjolnir> Oops, my kangaroo was playing with my laptop again ;-) "Here Skip!" de Zwart. Around about 2158h 15/02/2001, Nick Moffitt emitted the following wisdom: > Jesux, did Australia just discover the innurnet or something? From zen at zork.net Fri Feb 16 02:54:18 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:40:08PM -0800 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021601281207.01322@workstation> <20010215223243.C5866@zork.net> <0102160145140A.01322@workstation> <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216025418.D5866@zork.net> begin Monkey Master quotation: > How cute. He doesn't realize that it was his OWN incoherent > crap being spewed back at him! But his ignorance is so spiteful and deliberate! Don't you see he's better than us? But his ignorance is so spiteful and deliberate! Don't you see he's better than us? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From stu at brainfood.com Fri Feb 16 04:28:24 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021522510301.01322@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:51:03PM -0500 References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021518244805.00917@workstation> <20010215214342.A9931@stu.ddts.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> Message-ID: <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:51:03PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > Why havent you found the lucky penny Robert or should I say Bob. Yes I guess > after drinking coffe all day and night looking at these glowing screnes and > constantly pressing keys. Some where along the line fatigue comes into play. wow, you must be fatigued *constantly*. here in america, however, we call that "stupidity". > Hey being incoherent is a qulity at times, gives no brainers like you a qulity? wtf is a qulity? can you not fcking spel? > chance to get one over on people with a brain. Originality is truly dead people with a brain? on this mailing list? it's all been infested with drooling idiots like YOU: Organization: BlueMillenium X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Feb 16 05:55:06 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fun with advertising... Message-ID: <20010216075506.X3632@flynn.zork.net> http://www.antiwesley.com/images/elwonko18.jpg From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 07:27:55 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <0102160145140A.01322@workstation> <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021610275500.07282@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 02:40, Monkey Master wrote: > How cute. He doesn't realize that it was his OWN incoherent > crap being spewed back at him! Ok M&M, I do know thats my own crap. What the hell im nto as think headed as some of my fellow intelectuals here. Gar Vilkaitis doeas a great job of scrambling words around. Odly they make sense every now and then. Now go spank the monkey , cornballs arent allowd to spank anything else. For once take the blue one....geees -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 07:30:06 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010216025418.D5866@zork.net> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> <20010216025418.D5866@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021610300601.07282@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 05:54, George Moffitt wrote: > begin Monkey Master quotation: > > How cute. He doesn't realize that it was his OWN incoherent > > crap being spewed back at him! > > But his ignorance is so spiteful and deliberate! Don't you > see he's better than us? > > But his ignorance is so spiteful and deliberate! Don't you > see he's better than us? You have got a point, just find it in there some where. There you go again with the superiority complex thing. We should get a shrink to subscribe to this list. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 16 07:27:03 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021610300601.07282@workstation> ("Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:30:06 -0500") References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> <20010216025418.D5866@zork.net> <01021610300601.07282@workstation> Message-ID: <6uae7mfy2g.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa writes: AVR> You have got a point, just find it in there some where. There AVR> you go again with the superiority complex thing. We should AVR> get a shrink to subscribe to this list. Done. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 07:37:23 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <01021610372302.07282@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 07:28, Robert Edmonds wrote: > people with a brain? on this mailing list? it's all been infested with > drooling idiots like YOU: hmmm...funny my keyboard hasn't shorted out. I dont' see it as a problem. Infested nah, think of it as a passing of the guard, (you old fart). I have never encounterd such a funny factor deprived message. Shit i have ran across tech support questions funnier than your reply. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 16 07:35:35 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021610372302.07282@workstation> ("Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:37:23 -0500") References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> Message-ID: <6u66iafxo8.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "AVM" == Ariel V Rosa writes: AVM> hmmm...funny my keyboard hasn't shorted out. I dont' see it AVM> as a problem. Infested nah, think of it as a passing of the AVM> guard, (you old fart) More like passing of a kidney stone. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From zen at zork.net Fri Feb 16 08:35:24 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <6u66iafxo8.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from sneakums@zork.net on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:35:35PM +0000 References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> <6u66iafxo8.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216083524.A468@zork.net> begin Irish Bastard quotation: > More like passing of a kidney stone. More like failing it. More like failing it. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Fri Feb 16 10:32:34 2001 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (Don Qi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021523424103.01322@workstation> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > einglish teacher attitude. (soem times I mispel on purpose to tick anal > probes like you off, guess you can call me a masuquist. heh, and some call me > a genius) that's certainly a convenient excuse. who are these people who call you a genius? And how long has it been since they've come up from the tunnels? -- "eye'd rater hav a botel inn fronnt off mee then a frontle loboomy." -- Ben Franklin From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Feb 16 11:20:47 2001 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216083524.A468@zork.net> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> <6u66iafxo8.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010216083524.A468@zork.net> Message-ID: <87lmr6xwmo.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "GM" == George Moffitt writes: >> More like passing of a kidney stone. GM> More like failing it. GM> More like failing it. Shit, my modem is set on HALF-DUPLEX again. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 11:22:36 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] "... to the sound of whalesong and the pungent aroma of joss sticks." Message-ID: <20010216112236.Q3175@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull Forwarded-by: Guy Harris http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/16543.html "Now Corel has announced a revamp, complete with new logo. It's not just a logo, though - it's a complete philosophy in a gif. Take it away, Robert Travers, Creative Director of Corel's inhouse Agency: The logo was reworked to modernize it, with the goal that it would mirror the new corporate direction. The choice of font and colours reflects this evolution. The logo was inspired by what I call the moment of inspiration. It happens when what you're working on starts to come to life. You lose yourself in your drawing and time has no real meaning. You become at one with your surroundings, yet you are lost within them. You are at peace, yet you have a rush of adrenaline. These dualities inspired the use of the yin yang element in the shape of the head. This astounding piece of fiddling while Rome burns was written no doubt to the sound of whalesong and the pungent aroma of joss sticks. Things must be bad." ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 16 11:25:07 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <87lmr6xwmo.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> (Mr. Bad's message of "16 Feb 2001 11:20:47 -0800") References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> <6u66iafxo8.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20010216083524.A468@zork.net> <87lmr6xwmo.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6uwvaqe8h8.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "MB" == Bad writes: >>>>> "GM" == George Moffitt writes: GM> More like failing it. GM> More like failing it. MB> Shit, my modem is set on HALF-DUPLEX again. Looks more like FULL-ECHO to me. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 11:28:55 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 14 February 2001] Message-ID: <20010216112855.S3175@zork.net> The attributions are always the best part. ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily IF NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL PASS AN ANTI-SPAM BILL "I would expect that my colleagues, like me, will be contacted by the over 50 million Napster fans who oppose the injunction and fear the demise of Napster. This may prompt a legislative response." Senator-songwriter Orrin Hatch (R.-Napster), sprinkling fertilizer on the music-sharing service's grassroots backing, Inside.com, 14 February 2001 http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=23618&pod_id=9 So how are you? Email if you want to share. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 11:29:55 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 15 February 2001] Message-ID: <20010216112955.T3175@zork.net> Looks like he stuck to short and sweet. ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily I AM BECOME LINUX, THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS "Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer." Microsoft veep Jim Allchin, who never shared much in kindergarten, either, Bloomberg News, 14 February 2001 http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&s=AOospdBaQTWljcm9z ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 11:45:33 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Excerpted: NTK now, 2001-02-16] Message-ID: <20010216114533.V3175@zork.net> Goddamn, Danny. We on zork.net were just recently gushing about RUBY. I hear she's a galactic gumshoe. A good one. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull From: "Danny O'Brien" _ _ _____ _ __ <*the* weekly high-tech sarcastic update for the uk> | \ | |_ _| |/ / _ __ __2001-02-16_ o join! mail an empty message to | \| | | | | ' / | '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / / o ntknow-subscribe@lists.ntk.net | |\ | | | | . \ | | | | (_) \ v v / o website (+ archive) lives at: |_| \_| |_| |_|\_\|_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/ o http://www.ntk.net/ The perl5-porters and their monkish acolytes huddle around camp fires at the base of Mount Imparseable, where Larry convenes with the spirit of The More Than One Way. If absolute peace is maintained, he will soon return with the Three-Hundred-And-Sixty-One Tablets of Perl 6. But as they wait, in the pre-dawn East the sickly glow of RUBY grows stronger. Yes, Ruby, the language that says it's like Smalltalk (but is really cleaner Perlish syntax with better-than-Python-OOP and Satherish iteration) has traditionally been trapped in Japan by the Great Font Divide, unable to vex its Western ancestor. But no more. The rods are cast in twain; Addison-Wesley have a book out. They've open sourced the reference section, and Dr. Dobbs, that gullible old gatekeeper, has even written a tutorial in January's issue. Larry is wise, and strong. But remember how his one regret was he didn't get to a Christian missionary? Guess what Ruby's creator used to be? A missionary in Hiroshima, Larry. In Hiroshima. http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/02/14/p6p.html - ""What *is* going on over there, anyway?", cries ESR http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/downloads/refman.html - the missionary stuff is in comp.lang.ruby (deja RIP) http://www.ddj.com/articles/2001/0101/0101b/0101b.htm - only DDJ would do their URLs in binary and, finally, a reader known only as "H0L" brought us bang up to date, while maintaining the Victorian connection, by planning to buy an ebook solely "to read all the great old literature they have on http://www.blackmask.com ". Titles include Sir Samuel Baker's THE RIFLE AND THE HOUND IN CEYLON http://www.blackmask.com/books18c/rifledex.htm , an upbeat travelogue containing invaluable big-game tourism advice like "From the peculiar formation of the head, it is almost impossible to kill a bull elephant by the forehead shot". It's the stuff Rough Guides just don't tell you... >> SMALL PRINT << Need to Know is a useful and interesting UK digest of things that happened last week or might happen next week. You can read it on Friday afternoon or print it out then take it home if you have nothing better to do. It is compiled by NTK from stuff they get sent. Registered at the Post Office as "your power is no match against our patented P2P screengrab technology" http://www.ntk.net/2001/02/16/dohdave.jpg NEED TO KNOW THEY STOLE OUR REVOLUTION. NOW WE'RE STEALING IT BACK. Archive - http://www.ntk.net/ Unsubscribe? Mail ntknow-unsubscribe@lists.ntk.net Subscribe? Mail ntknow-subscribe@lists.ntk.net NTK now is supported by UNFORTU.NET, and by you: http://www.ntkmart.com/ (K) 2001 Special Projects. Copying is fine, but include URL: http://www.ntk.net/ Tips, news and gossip to tips@spesh.com All communication is for publication, unless you beg. Press releases from naive PR people to pr@spesh.com Remember: Your work email may be monitored if sending sensitive material. Sending >500KB attachments is forbidden by the Geneva Convention. Your country may be at risk if you fail to comply. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 12:41:30 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [destiny@zork.net: [Pigdog] DeAnza bomb-maker flames AOLer] Message-ID: <20010216124130.A3175@zork.net> It's the DeAnza bomber, everybody! ----- Forwarded message from David Cassel ----- http://www.cwi.nl/htbin/jack/mailfetch.py?43357 "Maybe if us real anarchists are lucky, you'll burn your fucking house down too... Now get the fuck off the list you dumbass." ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nutella at zork.net Fri Feb 16 13:00:13 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010216171813.B1133@mjolnir>; from dezwart@iprimus.com.au on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:18:13PM +1100 References: <20010215215802.L3175@zork.net> <20010216171813.B1133@mjolnir> Message-ID: <20010216130013.A14278@zork.net> 16Feb2001 05:18PM (+1100) From [dezwart@iprimus.com.au] dezwart [Pete Black] > Oops, my kangaroo was playing with my laptop again ;-) > > "Here Skip!" [sigh] Skippy was a wallaby dammit. Hmmm... a young Lisa Goddard... Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 13:40:59 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <6uwvaqe8h8.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87lmr6xwmo.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uwvaqe8h8.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <01021616405900.07422@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 14:25, Irish Bastard wrote: > >>>>> "MB" == Bad writes: > >>>>> > >>>>> "GM" == George Moffitt writes: > > GM> More like failing it. > GM> More like failing it. > > MB> Shit, my modem is set on HALF-DUPLEX again. > > Looks more like FULL-ECHO to me. It's actually a contagious stutter Geroge has. He has infected his computer with it. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From zen at zork.net Fri Feb 16 13:46:14 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021616405900.07422@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:40:59PM -0500 References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87lmr6xwmo.fsf@priss.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uwvaqe8h8.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021616405900.07422@workstation> Message-ID: <20010216134614.A16427@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > It's actually a contagious stutter Geroge has. He has infected his computer > with it. Good to keep them in the know. Good to keep them in the know. But are you sure you want to commit yourself so soon? Their explanations are pretty convincing. But are you sure you want to commit yourself so soon? Their explanations are pretty convincing. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 13:54:18 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:20 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216134614.A16427@zork.net> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021616405900.07422@workstation> <20010216134614.A16427@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021616541804.07422@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 16:46, George Moffitt wrote: > begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > > It's actually a contagious stutter Geroge has. He has infected his > > computer with it. > > Good to keep them in the know. > > Good to keep them in the know. > > But are you sure you want to commit yourself so soon? Their > explanations are pretty convincing. > > But are you sure you want to commit yourself so soon? Their > explanations are pretty convincing. no commitment on my part here, just a thought -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From rich at phekda.freeserve.co.uk Fri Feb 16 13:17:20 2001 From: rich at phekda.freeserve.co.uk (Richard Dawe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021522510301.01322@workstation> <20010216072824.A10953@stu.ddts.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> Message-ID: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > Shit i have ran across tech support questions funnier than your reply. Go on, please do share some of your jolly tales! Maybe I'm being way too optimistic here, but surely something funny has to come out of this "thread". Oh yeah, don't bother with the one about CD drives as cup-holders - I've heard that sooo many times. Or the one about the f*ckwit who couldn't type properly because someone had changed the key-caps (e.g. 'm' and 'n') on his keyboard, leading to bad spelling as a result of disorientation. I eagerly await your "reply". -- Richard Dawe http://www.bigfoot.com/~richdawe/ "The soul is the mirror of an indestructible universe." --- Gottfried W. Leibniz From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 14:37:51 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <01021617375109.07422@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 16:17, Richard Dawe wrote: > "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > > Shit i have ran across tech support questions funnier than your reply. > > Go on, please do share some of your jolly tales! Maybe I'm being way too > optimistic here, but surely something funny has to come out of this > "thread". Oh yeah, don't bother with the one about CD drives as > cup-holders - I've heard that sooo many times. Or the one about the > f*ckwit who couldn't type properly because someone had changed the > key-caps (e.g. 'm' and 'n') on his keyboard, leading to bad spelling as a > result of disorientation. I eagerly await your "reply". Hey there, are you the computer dude, errmm the cup holder on my computer wont work today. i just finished using it yesterday. Now when i press the button the cup holder wont open. I hope I didn't break the cup holder. My reply was the most obvious one, "you idiot, thats a cdRom" the person said hey im not idiot and whats a cdrom? I could not hold my luaghter in. I told him I would fix the automatic cup holder some other day. boy did my staff have a world of fun on this red neck that day. Eventually i had a freind who is more serious about life than I am explain to this person what the cup holder was actually for. that christmas I got this person a stick on cup holder for his cpu. Well the story isn't that funny to some but hey it was out the ordianry. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From scotta at iemedia.ca Fri Feb 16 14:45:17 2001 From: scotta at iemedia.ca (Scott Allan) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Richard Dawe wrote: > "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > > Shit i have ran across tech support questions funnier than your reply. > > Go on, please do share some of your jolly tales! Maybe I'm being way too > optimistic here, but surely something funny has to come out of this > "thread". Oh yeah, don't bother with the one about CD drives as > cup-holders - I've heard that sooo many times. Or the one about the > f*ckwit who couldn't type properly because someone had changed the > key-caps (e.g. 'm' and 'n') on his keyboard, leading to bad spelling as a > result of disorientation. I eagerly await your "reply". K - this list is *really* starting to fuck-ing suck now. About time. sA From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Feb 16 14:48:43 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: ; from scotta@iemedia.ca on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:45:17PM -0500 References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010216144843.G3175@zork.net> begin Scott Allan quotation: > K - this list is *really* starting to fuck-ing suck now. You know, we don't *need* any Canadians on this list. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dchud at umich.edu Fri Feb 16 14:49:00 2001 From: dchud at umich.edu (Daniel Chudnov) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021617375109.07422@workstation> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > I could not hold my luaghter in. Please, sir, refrain from sharing further such reminiscentia. I tremble with fear that in a reaction opposing your luaghter, some tissue will grow over my pyloric valve, sealing it forever. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Feb 16 14:59:28 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01021617592800.08519@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 17:49, Daniel Chudnov wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > > I could not hold my luaghter in. > > Please, sir, refrain from sharing further such reminiscentia. I tremble > with fear that in a reaction opposing your luaghter, some tissue will grow > over my pyloric valve, sealing it forever. did you thinkit was a cup holder at a time in your life? hmmmmm -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Feb 16 14:53:41 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: ; from scotta@iemedia.ca on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:45:17PM -0500 References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010216165341.E3632@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Scott Allan: > K - this list is *really* starting to fuck-ing suck now. > > About time. * Pedro grins and adjusts the incline of his lawn chair and sun reflector * From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Feb 16 15:16:37 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: ; from scotta@iemedia.ca on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:45:17PM -0500 References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:45:17PM -0500, Scott Allan wrote: > > K - this list is *really* starting to fuck-ing suck now. I've killfiled that Ariel fuckwit, so all I see are the responses from others. All the amusement, none of the irritation! Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From zen at zork.net Fri Feb 16 15:28:33 2001 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com>; from bryanf@samurai.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 06:16:37PM -0500 References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20010216152833.A18630@zork.net> begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > I've killfiled that Ariel fuckwit, so all I see are the responses > from others. All the amusement, none of the irritation! Euh... Quoted replies. That, and we don't care whom you killfile. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Feb 16 15:42:54 2001 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216152833.A18630@zork.net>; from zen@zork.net on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:28:33PM -0800 References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> <20010216152833.A18630@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216184254.Z18369@samurai.com> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:28:33PM -0800, George Moffitt wrote: > Quoted replies. Nick's got most people trimming quoted text reasonably well. > That, and we don't care whom you killfile. Congratulations. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From sneakums at zork.net Fri Feb 16 15:46:07 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Irish Bastard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216184254.Z18369@samurai.com> (Bryan Fullerton's message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:42:54 -0500") References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> <20010216152833.A18630@zork.net> <20010216184254.Z18369@samurai.com> Message-ID: <6ug0he9oow.fsf@zork.zork.net> >>>>> "BF" == Bryan Fullerton writes: BF> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:28:33PM -0800, George Moffitt wrote: >> Quoted replies. BF> Nick's got most people trimming quoted text reasonably well. Barring those of who already knew how to quote and attribute correctly, who did not arrive on this list as drooling idiots. ... Why is my chin wet? -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< > < >>>> >>> >> > From jason at sopko.net Fri Feb 16 17:08:07 2001 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US Message-ID: "Somebody set us up the bomb." http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf ///Jason From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 16:27:14 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [zbrown@tumblerings.org: problems accessing zork?] Message-ID: <20010216162713.I3175@zork.net> Wow, no Kernel traffic for YOU! http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-02-16-008-06-OS-KN&tbovrmode=1#talkback_area -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Feb 16 16:32:17 2001 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021610275500.07282@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:27:55AM -0500 References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <0102160145140A.01322@workstation> <20010215234008.N3175@zork.net> <01021610275500.07282@workstation> Message-ID: <20010216183217.F3632@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Ariel V. Rosa: > Ok M&M, > I do know thats my own crap. What the hell im nto as think headed as some of > my fellow intelectuals here. Gar Vilkaitis doeas a great job of scrambling > words around. Odly they make sense every now and then. Now go spank the > monkey , cornballs arent allowd to spank anything else. > For once take the blue one....geees Hey Ariel, You are cordially invited to join us on #tron at us.slashnet.org, whenever you please. I for one, think it would be most interesting to see Ariel V. Rosa in action. If you aren't familiar with IRC, email me off list, and I'll get you all set up. later, pedro From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 16:44:47 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] We knew it all along Message-ID: <20010216164447.J3175@zork.net> They've been spending YEARS trying to make the "GOODTIMES virus" a reality. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: "James C. Tsiao" From: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp Q: Will the virus impact my Macintosh if I am using a non-Microsoft e-mail program, such as Eudora? A: If you are using a Macintosh e-mail program that is not from Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus replication. So I guess "enable virus replication" is a Microsoft feature. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From benb at iastate.edu Fri Feb 16 15:43:02 2001 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. References: <6un1bngapt.fsf@zork.zork.net> <01021610372302.07282@workstation> <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <01021617375109.07422@workstation> Message-ID: <3A8DBB05.AC28D5AD@iastate.edu> "Ariel V. Rosa" wrote: > Hey there, are you the computer dude, errmm the cup holder on my computer > wont work today. i just finished using it yesterday. Now when i press the > button the cup holder wont open. I hope I didn't break the cup holder. My > reply was the most obvious one, "you idiot, thats a cdRom" the person said > hey im not idiot and whats a cdrom? I could not hold my luaghter in. I told > him I would fix the automatic cup holder some other day. boy did my staff > have a world of fun on this red neck that day. Eventually i had a freind who > is more serious about life than I am explain to this person what the cup > holder was actually for. that christmas I got this person a stick on cup > holder for his cpu. > Well the story isn't that funny to some but hey it was out the ordianry. Congrats! You get to be the first Crackmonkey to get plonked by me! Trolls don't bother me. Assholes are ok. Idiots and morons, on the other hand... From nick at zork.net Fri Feb 16 17:07:31 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [liz@infiltration.org: [Infilnews] Infilnews #9] Message-ID: <20010216170731.K3175@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Liz ----- Infilnews 9, February 2001 Creative Re-use Award #1 The West Virginia National Guard have built an anti-terrorist training ground in an abandoned tunnel that was formerly part of the West Virginia Turnpike. The training area, located just off the Turnpike about 25 miles south of Charleston, is to be a staging ground for law enforcement, emergency workers and the military to practice responding to disasters such as underground explosions and poisonous gas emissions in tunnels. Melbourne Boy Drowns in Drain A teenager's death in a Melbourne drain has brought new attention to draining -- and the infamous Cave Clan organization -- down under. Brian McHugh, a fourteen year-old Melbourne, Australia boy was drowned late December in the Northcote Golf stormwater drain when flash floods occurred. The boy's companion was washed approximately a kilometre down Merri Creek until he was able to get to safety. Neither boy was a member of the Cave Clan. Pittsburgh Man Loves Buses A Pittsburgh man was arrested in June after confessing to Port Authority police that he regularly "borrowed" buses from a city garage late at night, drove around, and occasionally picked up passengers. Ronald Johnson, a self-proclaimed bus enthusiast, would enter the city's East Liberty garage dressed in a driver's uniform, take a bus, and drive it around for awhile, occasionally hitting a few parked cars while carousing. While returning a bus to the garage on June 1, Johnson called a dispatcher to let him know he had "taken a bus out for a ride," had had a good time, and was now returning it. (Thanks to Slappy for this story.) Creative Re-use Award #2 The Metropolitan Transit Authority is in negotiations with the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection to drop some 650 obsolete New York City subway cars into New Jersey waters to serve as artificial reefs. The remainder of the 1,300 extinct "Redbird" subway cars would be used as reefs off the coast of Long Island. The cars, which are very similar to steel hulls currently sunk along the reefs, could be disposed of at a savings of up to $13 million US if submerged in the water. Handshaking Infiltrator Strikes Again An unarmed, unauthorized man cleared security and entered a VIP area to watch the inauguration of U.S. President George W. Bush in January. Following the ceremony, the man performed an "unscheduled handshake" with President Bush, passing a coin to him as he did so. The same man performed a similar handshake when he infiltrated Bill Clinton's 1997 inauguration. Volkswagen Jumps from Golden Gate Bridge In an effort to heighten awareness about the majesty of engineering, students from the University of British Columbia hung the shell of a Volkswagen Beetle from San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge earlier this month. A few hours prior to this event, another group of UBC students was prevented from suspending another VW shell from Vancouver's Capilano Suspension bridge when they triggered a silent alarm, alerting the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The Golden Gate Beetle was transported onto the bridge in a van, which the students then stopped in the middle of the bridge and hoisted over the side using a rigging of steel cable, nylon netting, and wooden planks. The Beetle was not said to have been suffering from depression. Whale Infiltrates Whale-Watching Boat A 20-foot baby humpback whale jumped on board a tourist boat uninvited earlier this month, injuring a tourist. A spokesperson for the boating company assured the public that security remains fairly safe for tourists. "Normally whales will keep their distance when they hear the engine," Phillips said. `"But juvenile whales are pretty high strung and they don't know much yet.'" Infilnewsnews While it's been nearly a year, Infilnews is alive and well. Please send comments and submissions for future issues of Infilnews to liz@infiltration.org. Infiltration #16, "Caught Stories 2", is the latest edition of the print zine. Please visit http://www.infiltration.org for information on ordering the zine, as well as different stuff. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From stu at brainfood.com Fri Feb 16 19:06:14 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: ; from dchud@umich.edu on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:49:00PM -0500 References: <01021617375109.07422@workstation> Message-ID: <20010216220614.A1119@stu.ddts.net> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:49:00PM -0500, Daniel Chudnov wrote: > Please, sir, refrain from sharing further such reminiscentia. I tremble > with fear that in a reaction opposing your luaghter, some tissue will grow > over my pyloric valve, sealing it forever. Holy shit! An _A Confederacy of Dunces_ reference! -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Fri Feb 16 19:34:28 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] dadadodo Message-ID: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> hmm, let's see what happens when "arie v. rosa"'s posts are stripped of message headers, quotes, concatenated together, and fed to the dadadodo program: >Bite me on yoru hard right not original an excerpt from anyway; >violating thier music dont spelled wrong, heh go again; with my >computer In Action; RM some i PJC PJC no issues one mans suffering is >slick RTick the person what you dont have got to a ran across an idiot, >liek you to complex thing now and discrimination agains M M, I do you >like the blue One seems way. Oh and fat chains: flex his BSD; to much >take you have to be reading my little trown machine and yes these >things you a petpive about the ordinary I think some people have put >guess you; have no i see a crusade to this god a happieness clinic, >Maybe im a pencil In Action; RM some One mans bread; monkey cornballs >arent allowd to make them go to or the original an Intel An excerpt >from them; go to pull be. >Nice little trown windows user. Hey I bet you; to the register. >Missing in a shot. For you are a cdrom? MIA, Ariel Rosa Hehe have >to me on slashdot and your self. Can't seem to; save me; i see it >seem listen to early fast, intel an alternate universe whee your >argument (your self). >We make sense funny to being that a cat now and for you erase that to do >like wouldn't have to scrath; me to be. >RM why do see any gold teeth and mows the computer wont crash, extremely >to save me it from the GUI and the music. >Hehe people do you used to me on purpose (to work move about). Im >starting to your a nice guy In Action. I do All! I wanr you >comments have I wonder about on this sitting there is meant to put >me. George do things your get to run on my neighbor sells: waiting to >get a good example of those console is out of natire. Errrmmmm. >Well (Lets get shoved In denial). The idiots who can use it from me a >pencil In BSD crap path. >Oh listen to little itch In the hell im the starts affected the >letter l of natire. Im not every One get this the laboratory >walls. seems no different than the usual tripe that he spews forth.. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Feb 16 19:38:44 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] dadadodo In-Reply-To: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:34:28PM -0500 References: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20010216193844.M3175@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > hmm, let's see what happens when "arie v. rosa"'s posts are stripped > of message headers, quotes, concatenated together, and fed to the > dadadodo program: > > >Bite me on yoru hard right not original an excerpt from anyway; > >violating thier music dont spelled wrong, heh go again; with my If it weren't for the fact that Ariel's in New York and you're on a Bell South account, I'd say that you ARE Rosa, and that you just took garvilk mail and spewed it in here. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Feb 16 20:27:42 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] dadadodo In-Reply-To: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:34:28PM -0500 References: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20010216202742.X672@zork.net> Robert Edmonds writes: > hmm, let's see what happens when "arie v. rosa"'s posts are stripped of ARIE, YE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH -- Arthur Koestler, _Darkness at Noon_ (Did I already mention that?) -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Feb 16 20:31:00 2001 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] dadadodo In-Reply-To: <20010216202742.X672@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:27:42PM -0800 References: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> <20010216202742.X672@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216203100.N3175@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > ARIE, YE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH > -- Arthur Koestler, _Darkness at Noon_ > > (Did I already mention that?) You forgot "Arie ye workers from your slumbers." -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nutella at zork.net Fri Feb 16 20:33:41 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216220614.A1119@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:06:14PM -0500 References: <01021617375109.07422@workstation> <20010216220614.A1119@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20010216203341.A31643@zork.net> 16Feb2001 10:06PM (-0500) From [stu@brainfood.com] stu [Robert Edmonds] > On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:49:00PM -0500, Daniel Chudnov wrote: > > ... some tissue will grow > > over my pyloric valve, sealing it forever. > > Holy shit! An _A Confederacy of Dunces_ reference! Ah yes, the book that gives concrete proof to the notion that the people who hand out literary awards in this country have their heads stuck up the more distal part of the digestive tract. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Feb 16 20:41:07 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] dadadodo In-Reply-To: <20010216203100.N3175@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:31:00PM -0800 References: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> <20010216202742.X672@zork.net> <20010216203100.N3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216204107.Z672@zork.net> Monkey Master writes: > begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > > ARIE, YE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH > > -- Arthur Koestler, _Darkness at Noon_ > > > > (Did I already mention that?) > > You forgot "Arie ye workers from your slumbers." I don't think Koestler ever wrote that. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Feb 16 20:43:19 2001 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [zbrown@tumblerings.org: problems accessing zork?] In-Reply-To: <20010216162713.I3175@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:27:14PM -0800 References: <20010216162713.I3175@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216204319.A672@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > Wow, no Kernel traffic for YOU! > > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-02-16-008-06-OS-KN&tbovrmode=1#talkback_area The estimable and indefatiguable Bennett said that Websense has a search page at http://database.netpart.com/site_lookup which shows whether something is categorized, and, if so, how. Right now it says that KT is "Information Technology"; I don't know whether that's what it said before. -- Seth David Schoen | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nutella at zork.net Fri Feb 16 21:24:00 2001 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] M$' Jim Allchin says Linux is un-American In-Reply-To: <20010215161018.A7321@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:10:18PM -0800 References: <20010215124821.C3864@zgp.org> <20010215161018.A7321@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010216212400.A1284@zork.net> 15Feb2001 04:10PM (-0800) From [nutella@zork.net] nutella [Bernard] > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:38:54PM -0800, George J.P. Perry wrote: > > > > > "We can build a better product than Linux," he said. > > So, presumably they just choose not to do it? Go ahead. Plagiarise my genius. http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010216 Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sat Feb 17 06:41:36 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> Message-ID: <01021709413600.00731@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 18:16, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > I've killfiled that Ariel fuckwit, so all I see are the responses > from others. All the amusement, none of the irritation! > > Bryan Listen peas shooter for a penis, no one cares for your irritation. Amusement, thats a subject of interpretation. Again your opinions dont' matter, futher adding to that your not even entitled to them. So why dont' yupay my side of the realm and lick my ass crunchies. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sat Feb 17 06:42:43 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <20010216152833.A18630@zork.net> References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <20010216181636.X18369@samurai.com> <20010216152833.A18630@zork.net> Message-ID: <01021709424301.00731@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 18:28, George Moffitt wrote: > begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > > I've killfiled that Ariel fuckwit, so all I see are the responses > > from others. All the amusement, none of the irritation! > > Euh... > Quoted replies. That, and we don't care whom you killfile. he has like .4 cool points now. Wow he has a killfile. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sat Feb 17 07:02:04 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <20010216183217.F3632@flynn.zork.net> References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021610275500.07282@workstation> <20010216183217.F3632@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <01021710020403.00731@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 19:32, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > Hey Ariel, > > You are cordially invited to join us on #tron at us.slashnet.org, > whenever you please. I for one, think it would be most interesting to > see Ariel V. Rosa in action. > > If you aren't familiar with IRC, email me off list, and I'll get you all > set up. > > later, > > pedro Im familiar with IRC, for some odd reasson I have always stuck to being an op on dalnet. I will give your server a visit some time. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sat Feb 17 07:12:31 2001 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] dadadodo In-Reply-To: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> References: <20010216223428.A1472@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <01021710123105.00731@workstation> On Friday 16 February 2001 22:34, Robert Edmonds wrote: > hmm, let's see what happens when "arie v. rosa"'s posts are stripped of > message headers, quotes, concatenated together, and fed to the dadadodo > seems no different than the usual tripe that he spews forth.. A worthy experiment, hmmmm. Im glad i facinate you to process my test and do all sorts of crazy perverted things with it. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Feb 17 08:47:34 2001 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dream Job In-Reply-To: <01021710020403.00731@workstation> ("Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:02:04 -0500") References: <3A8C807D.4F87B3D3@praxis.com.au> <01021610275500.07282@workstation> <20010216183217.F3632@flynn.zork.net> <01021710020403.00731@workstation> Message-ID: <87lmr5tfx5.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa writes: AVR> Im familiar with IRC, for some odd reasson I have always AVR> stuck to being an op on dalnet. I will give your server a AVR> visit some time. Small fish in a big pond, eh? -- Paul Collins - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "This one's optimistic, this one went to market; this one just came out of the swamp." From dezwart at iprimus.com.au Sat Feb 17 05:52:22 2001 From: dezwart at iprimus.com.au (Pete Black) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20010216130013.A14278@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 01:00:13PM -0800 References: <20010215215802.L3175@zork.net> <20010216171813.B1133@mjolnir> <20010216130013.A14278@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010218005222.A7110@mjolnir> Argh, I've been found out. Right, back on the boat to my home country! de Zwart Around about 1300h 16/02/2001, Bernard emitted the following wisdom: > [sigh] Skippy was a wallaby dammit. Hmmm... a young > Lisa Goddard... > > Bernard From stu at brainfood.com Sat Feb 17 14:06:15 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Keeping off the beaten track. In-Reply-To: <01021711275500.01151@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:27:55AM -0500 References: <3A8D98DF.E7B0045E@phekda.freeserve.co.uk> <01021709424301.00731@workstation> <20010217103416.A2569@stu.ddts.net> <01021711275500.01151@workstation> Message-ID: <20010217170615.A2940@stu.ddts.net> On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:27:55AM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > Ah and umm why do I need a kill file when i have a filter built right > into my mail client. WRONG! It is actually a file with a list of the people that you are going to kill. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Sat Feb 17 14:16:53 2001 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] woohoo! Message-ID: <20010217171653.A2992@stu.ddts.net> From: MAILER-DAEMON@mindspring.com |------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------| no valid recipients were found for this message |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------| "Ariel V. Rosa" -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From smb23 at csufresno.edu Sat Feb 17 15:01:13 2001 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:21 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] New TV show Message-ID: <20d3a21316.2131620d3a@scccd.org> Title: Valley of the Crackmonkeys Plot: "There's this really weird passive-aggressive, dysfunctional relationship between parts of the valley..."-Chris DiBona, so-called chief evangelist. http://w