[CrackMonkey] LAML

[Jay Sulzberger]

Phil Wadler also gave the same rant, at nearly the same time.

oo--JS.


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 From: secretary at lxny.org
 Newsgroups: panix.beginners,panix.chat,panix.user.unix
 Subject: LXNY Meeting Tuesday 4 January 2000:  Philip Wadler will speak on XML and Lisp
 Followup-To: panix.chat
 Organization: LXNY New York's Free Software Organization
 Keywords: available, hackable, freely redistributable source; GPL

<personal>
If you like any of the html+tags-which-do-something systems, whether your
favorite system is source secret or free, this meeting is for you.  Lisp
is based upon two simple ideas:

1. Data and programs are organized into trees, just like html.

2. You must systematically distinguish between the thing and the result of
   evaluating the thing, but both are first class objects.

The extendo-tag systems folk already do 1, and they are in process of
discovering the advantages of 2.
</personal>


LXNY will next meet on Tuesday 4 January 2000 in the IBM building
at 590 Madison Avenue on the Island of Manhattan.

This meeting is free and open to the public.

In particular, all members of FUNY, NYLUG, LUNY!, AnyNIX, the Brooklyn
Bunch, and all other Free Software Groups are welcome!

The meeting starts at 6:30 pm and runs until 9:00 pm.  Enter the building
on the corner of 57th Street and Madison Avenue and ask at the front desk
for the room number.

At exactly 9:00 pm many members will repair to our traditional place of
refreshment.


Philip Wadler, of the Functional Cabal^W^W^W^Wserious compiler and
categorical hacker, one of the designers of Haskell, the pure, lazy,
functional programming language with monads for input/output, member of
the W3C XML Query working group, late of Glasgow University, now at
Bell Labs of Lucent, will speak at this meeting.

http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/wadler/index.html

The subject will be XML and Lisp:

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The Next 700 Markup Languages

Philip Wadler. Invited Talk, Second Conference on Domain Specific
Languages (DSL'99), Austin, Texas, October 1999.

XML (eXtensible Markup Language) is a magnet for hype: the successor to
HTML for Web publishing, electronic data interchange, and e-commerce. In
fact, XML is little more than a notation for trees and for tree grammars,
a verbose variant of Lisp S-expressions coupled with a poor man's BNF
(Backus-Naur form). Yet this simple basis has spawned scores of
specialized sublanguages: for airlines, banks, and cell phones; for
astronomy, biology, and chemistry; for the DOD and the IRS.
Domain-specific languages indeed! There is much for the language designer
to contribute here. In particular, as all this is based on a sort of
S-expression, is there a role for a sort of Lisp?

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Links having to do with this circle of ideas:

http://perl.apache.org/embperl
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/S/SA/SAMTREGAR
http://www.distributed.net
http://cosm.mithral.com
http://www.cs.yale.edu/Linda/linda.html
http://www.fs.net/sfs
http://www.xmlscript.org
http://www.risource.org
http://www.xmlforall.com/
http://www.cs.auc.dk/~normark/laml
http://theopenlab.uml.edu/loci
http://www.xmltp.org
http://www.jabber.org
http://www.xml-rpc.com
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/xmill
http://www.bowerbird.com.au/XDBM
http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~ted/XU/XuPageKeio.html
http://www.xanadu.net
http://www.hsdi.com/qddb
http://www.multivaluedatabases.com
http://www.framerd.org
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc
http://www.cons.org
http://www.schemers.org

Jay Sulzberger <secretary at lxny.org>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org

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