[free-sklyarov] Attempting to show the other side

Daniel Richards kyhwana at world-net.co.nz
Tue Aug 28 05:03:09 PDT 2001


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On 27 Aug 2001, at 23:19, y s wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:27:05 Daniel Richards wrote:
> >Odd how most of the "ebooks" you can download on gnutellanet/fast
> >track/etcetc are books that have been scanned instead of "cracked"
> >ebooks.
> 
> Compare it with his previous post:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:32:27 Daniel Richards wrote:
> >Has anyone written another program that will "process" adobe's
> >ebooks into pdf/html/txt/etc?       ...<snip>...
> >If anyone knows or is doing such a thing, could you please email
> >me (Off list, use PGP)
> 
> Looks like Daniel Richards  _regrets_  that "most of the 'ebooks'  ...  have 
> been scanned instead of 'cracked' ebooks".
*cackle*
Where did I mention the word 'regret'? I hate when people think im 
saying something that im not.
- From what i've seen and heard, most of the ebooks floating around 
have been scanned, instead of 'cracked'. Which kind of makes 
protections on most ebooks useless.
Anyway, I was after something like aebpr to host somewhere, partly 
because we don't have a DMCA here in NZ (yet). I've been on the 
recieving end of various C&D's before, so it's amusing to watch a 
bunch of lawyers get mad when they realise they can't do jack shit 
but threaten you.
Anyway, that's getting offtopic.
Im sure Mr Touretzky would also be interested in hosting any kind of 
 source/binaries which do the same thing.

If you're implying I was after something like aebpr to crack ebooks 
and p1r4t30rz them, you're sadly mistaken. It's more of a 'stick it to 
the man' thing, or Civil Disobediance, which in my home country 
isn't at this stage.

> Frankly, <Daniel Richards> did not surprise me. However, <Jon O .> did: 
> after dozens of enthusiastic messages here, he had enough objectivity to 
> look at the other side of the story.
> In my previous life in the USSR I've seen various "movements", both just and 
> unjust. I know how difficult it was (and sometimes how much integrity it 
> took) not to be carried away and retain some objectivity and independence. I 
> wonder how many more "activists" here are able honestly look at the other 
> side.
Which other side is that? Is that like the other side of the DeCSS 
case? Where we (the people) are not allowed to reverse engineer 
and write our own player(s). The large companies (With their PR 
might) will try to spin this off as a piracy tool, only good for 
infringing on their copyrights (piracy). You need only look at the 
past to see that this is true. Please correct me if im wrong.


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