[free-sklyarov] Adobe Will Talk! July 23 Sklyarov Protest on Hold

[Paul Gowder]

NO Will, NO.  You're being SNOWED.  Ask ANYONE who knows anything about 
grassroots organizing against corporate power what to do if the corporation 
offers to meet on the eve of an action.  They're trying to murder our 
credibility, they're trying to kill the momentum for protest action by 
offering a meeting, at which they will say "there's nothing we can do, it's 
in the government's hands now, but we feel your pain.

You have to BUILD POWER before you can NEGOTIATE WITH THE POWERFUL.  Basic 
maxim of organizing.

Please don't get tricked by this kindergarten tactic.  We have no power 
yet.  We have nothing to offer.  We have to get power before we can 
negotiate.  Otherwise all we'll get is therapy.

         -Paul

At 02:16 PM 7/20/01, you wrote:
>Adobe only agreed to meet with us if we would put
>the Monday, July 23 protest on hold.
>
>We would like to believe that Adobe will be
>negotiating in earnest and it is not EFF's
>style to engage in punitive protests when
>there is hope of a negotiated solution.
>
>If some folks go ahead and protest and antagonize
>Adobe, that may escalate the situation,
>preclude Adobe withdrawing their complaint,
>and keep Dmitry in jail.
>
>I think should treat this as a partial victory...
>we have succeeded in getting to the table in
>a big way with Adobe! Let's use that leverage
>to get some concrete action. And if they don't
>budge, we can still protest. Those who offered
>the favors once hopefully did so because we
>have an important cause here, and will likely
>do so again.
>
>I am glad to hear everyone's comments about
>this and look forward to working together to
>get Dmitry out of jail and end further unfair
>DMCA prosecutions.
>
>Free Dmitry,
>
>Will Doherty
>Online Activist / Media Relations
>Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)
>Web http://www.eff.org
>
>Electronic Frontier Foundation - Protecting rights in the digital age
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>
>At 01:00 PM 7/20/2001 -0700, Klepht wrote:
>> >>>>> "WD" == Will Doherty <wild at eff.org> writes:
>>
>>     WD> Congratulations folks!  The pressure we all have put on Adobe
>>     WD> has resulted in an agreement to meet with representatives from
>>     WD> the Electronic Frontier Foundation on this Monday morning,
>>     WD> July 23.
>>
>>     WD> For that reason, EFF has decided to:
>>
>>     WD> PUT THE JULY 23 PROTEST ON HOLD
>>
>>Will,
>>
>>We are NOT going to be able to get this kind of momentum behind us
>>again if we pull the plug now. It's just NOT going to happen.
>>
>>So PLEASE be VERY confident that there will be CONCRETE
>>results.
>>
>>Frankly, this is the best of all worlds for Adobe: they get a couple
>>of eggheads to come into the office, they blow smoke up your asses for
>>a couple of hours, and then show you the door.
>>
>>In other words, you're neutralized. Everyone who's pulled in favors to
>>get this event publicized will be unable to make that happen again. I
>>know I will.
>>
>>It seems like a REALLY BAD idea to me, so I hope you have a better
>>feeling about the meeting than I do. If I were you, I'd wait until
>>AFTER Monday to meet with Adobe. But that's just me.
>>
>>~Klepht
>>
>>--
>>klepht at eleutheria.org
>>http://www.eleutheria.org/
>
>
>
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	-Paul Gowder

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