[free-sklyarov] Activities in New Mexico

Neale Pickett neale at woozle.org
Sat Jul 21 00:40:17 PDT 2001


I was one of three that I counted voicing support for the "poised to
protest" stance, I only saw your posts urging for the protest to
continue.  While you are clearly in the majority on this (international)
list, this puts you in the minority on the Seattle list so far.

There hasn't exactly been a flurry of email on the Seattle list though,
so even this tide may still change.  But the opinions which have been
expressed, including yours, have all been well-reasoned.  One thing is
certain: there are two distinct camps on this issue, both with good
reasons for positioning themselves as they do.  My statements reflect my
views, and my interpretation of what appears to me the majority-held
view on the list.

Everyone is encouraged to view the public Seattle list archives at
<http://woozle.org/mailman/listinfo/seattle-sklyarov>

Charles Eakins writes:
> Uh Majority?  I saw two people disagree with my position, I hardly call that
> a majority.  You were one of the two.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: free-sklyarov-admin at zork.net
> [mailto:free-sklyarov-admin at zork.net]On Behalf Of Neale Pickett
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:57 PM
> To: free-sklyarov at zork.net
> Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] Activities in New Mexico


> Robert Franklin writes:

>> Yes, I was talking to jaraco.  I think the plans for NM are faltering...
>> partially due to the late date (he's heading out of town at the moment,
>> my contacts are more limited, etc.) as well as the general confusion
>> regarding the status of the protest right now.  Are you currently on for
>> Seattle?

> Seattle's on, but for the most part* we plan on meeting at a nearby park,
> poised to walk to Adobe and protest.  We'll be geting live updates from
> the EFF by cell phone, so we can keep up with how the talks are going.
> But we don't want to spoil things for the EFF by protesting anyway.  WTO
> has left a sour taste in our mouth (who can name three issues raised by
> protesters during WTO?  Okay now who can name three kinds of anti-riot
> gear used by police?), so we want to make sure we use our ability to
> protest as a strategic tool, not an end in and of itself.

> This strategy may not work so well in other parts of the country, less
> seasoned by protests gone awry :-)  But if you're considering not doing
> anything at all, maybe this "poised to protest" position can get people
> charged up again.  Let me know if you need any help organizing!

> (* "for the most part" means that it appears the majority feel this
> way.  People being sovereign, not everyone in Seattle agrees with me,
> and there will probably still be a few protesters in front of Adobe on
> Monday regardless of what happens.)

> Neale Pickett, Civil Liberties Hacktivist


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neale Pickett [mailto:neale at woozle.org]
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:27 PM
>> To: Robert Franklin
>> Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] Activities in New Mexico

>> Ah!  Are you talking to Ralph Coombs?  I was trying to convince him to
>> start something up :-)

>> Robert Franklin writes:

>>> I apologize for the HTML email.  I'm experimenting with OfficeXP for
>>> work.  My previous message is repeated below in plaintext.  I imagine
>> we
>>> have some common friends... I'm a reformed Techie & remember seeing
>> you
>>> around.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Neale Pickett [mailto:neale at woozle.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:08 PM
>>> To: Robert Franklin
>>> Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] Activities in New Mexico

>>> Hey Robert,

>>> I've got friends in New Mexico who might be interested, but I can't
>>> decipher all that MS Word gar.  Could you maybe resend that message in
>>> plain text?


>>> Repeated/Reformatted Message Follows...
>>> 
>> ========================================================================
>>> ===
>>> A few friends and I are discussing an action in Albuquerque, New
>> Mexico
>>> to coincide with the other protests going on.  A few questions have
>>> surfaced that we could use some advice on.

>>> 1) Is anyone else on the list in New Mexico, and willing to either
>>> participate or help organize?

>>> 2) Has the EFF or anyone on the list created a quick HOWTO for this
>> sort
>>> of thing?  Topics I am interested in but somewhat clueless about
>>> include:  Informing the media; informing the authorities (i.e.
>>> contacting local law enforcement to let them know we will be there)

>>> 3) A set of cluefull speaking points.  I'm thinking soundbytes &
>> quotes
>>> suitable for 30 seconds of news coverage.  It seems to me a good idea
>> to
>>> have a short, quick list for people who are either organizing their
>> own
>>> small rallies or will be speaking with the press.  Perhaps a media
>> guide
>>> from the EFF (if one already exists, please direct me to it) would be
>>> helpful.  what I really have in mind is something short that could be
>>> handed out to supporters & media summing up the legal issues/etc.
>>> Although concerned, I'm no lawyer & would want to be positive I had my
>>> facts right.

>>> Thanks, I'm sure more questions will follow--

>>> Rob






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