[free-sklyarov] Thank You All!

Declan McCullagh declan at well.com
Tue Jul 24 07:51:33 PDT 2001


It's reasonable to disagree on tactics, but the folks here who have
been beating up on EFF since Friday perhaps owe the group an apology.

Without EFF's sober negotiators sitting down with Adobe yesterday,
Adobe would not have backed down. Without protesters in the streets
outside, EFF's position would not have been as strong.

Face it: You need each other, and (in this case, at least) are
effective together, loosely coordinated.

-Declan


On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:40:08PM -0700, Robin Gross wrote:
> I believe that we are on the same side - even if we may disagree on tactics.
> 
> No offense taken :)
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> At 09:29 PM 7/23/2001 -0700, Derek Balling wrote:
> >No offense, but this coming from the organization that claimed they "could 
> >not support the protesting"?
> >
> >This seems a little... I dunno... hypocritical.
> >
> >I understand that the end result was good, but to imply that "the 
> >protestors" and "the EFF" were any kind of "team" is definitely (as far as 
> >I can tell) not the case at all. The EFF tries now to skate through the 
> >best of both worlds, disavowing themselves of the protestors and hanging 
> >them out to dry, and now claiming they were "part of the team" and a part 
> >of some "combined energy".
> >
> >Pick a side of the fence and stay on it. :)
> >
> >D
> >
> >
> >At 9:15 PM -0700 7/23/01, Robin Gross wrote:
> >>Thank you all for organizing so quickly and focusing your support so 
> >>effectively in this shared effort to free Dmitry and repeal this harmful 
> >>Act of Congress.
> >>
> >>I wish I could express how grateful we were at while at Adobe in the 
> >>negotiations today to be able to see the public supporters outside. There 
> >>is no question that it made all the difference in the day's 
> >>outcome.  This applies equally to both those who were right outside the 
> >>window as well as from protesters all over the world.
> >>Today's victory belongs to you folks.
> >>
> >>This experience clearly shows that when we focus our combined energy we 
> >>can get results.  Now the DOJ and Robert Mueller must be convinced its 
> >>not in their best interests to pursue this prosecution.
> >>
> >>Thank you,
> >>Robin
> >
> >--
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> >| dredd at megacity.org  | "Conan! What is best in life?"          |
> >|  Derek J. Balling   | "To crush your enemies, see them        |
> >|                     |    driven before you, and to hear the   |
> >|                     |    lamentation of their women!"         |
> >+---------------------+-----------------------------------------+
> >
> 
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