[free-sklyarov] EFF vs(?) us

kastlyn at lowerlights.com kastlyn at lowerlights.com
Tue Jul 24 09:57:40 PDT 2001


>How in the world can you make that statement?  Are you omniscient?
>

<rant> 
    Let's keep the personal insults out of this.  This is a matter of
opinion, and both sides have their points, but passing around insults 
does nothing to keep us untied for the common goal.  Let's just set the 
put-downs aside and focus on the issues.  

>My guess (which is no better than yours) is that Adobe would have
>backed down even if EFF did not meet with them.  The negative PR is
>what Adobe wanted to avoid - and EFF was mostly irrelevant to that.
>
>Don Wills
     Don, I respect your opinion, but I happen to disagree with you.  
I believe that it would have been easier for Adobe to ignore the protestors 
had the EFF not been INSIDE, and likewise, if the protestors
had not been OUTSIDE.

     I agree with the EFF's decision to try and hold off on the protests
until after the negotiations, and I also agree with
the decision the rest of us made to go ahead with the protests despite
that.  The EFF didn't sabatoge the protests by doing what they did, and
we didn't sabatoge the negotiations by protesting.  I think everyone made
the correct decision in doing what they knew to be right yesterday.
Regardless of who was inside and who was outside, we all were (and still
are) on the same side of the fence, just on opposite ends.  We all had
a victory yesterday, but it doesn't end there.  So, let's stop the 
bickering and start organizing our efforts WITH the EFF, AGAINST the DOJ.
United we'll stand, but if we divide ourselves, we may very well fail, and
it's certainly counter-productive to getting things done.
</rant>
           -=Amie Christensen=-




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