From debug at centras.lt Tue Sep 3 09:24:31 2002 From: debug at centras.lt (DeBug) Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:55 2005 Subject: [free-sklyarov] Alice in Wonderland continued In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10434211613.20020903182431@centras.lt> what i read - a long story of copyrighted Alice in Wonderland I do agree that changing font for Alice in Wonderland is a work. But if we are going to allow to copyright every single mouse click what a nightmare we'll have - all more or less complex products will be copyrighted hundreds of times and potential users will be working hard in separating what belongs to whom. All this shows what a mess copyright system would produce if we apply "sweat of the brow" doctrine. -- Best regards, DeBug mailto:debug@centras.lt From debug at centras.lt Thu Sep 5 01:17:17 2002 From: debug at centras.lt (DeBug) Date: Fri Jul 8 22:08:03 2005 Subject: [free-sklyarov] Highly respected OpenBSD, OpenSSH programmer ce nsors website, cites DMCA In-Reply-To: <200109050259.f852xHZ10583@moerbeke> References: <200109050259.f852xHZ10583@moerbeke> Message-ID: <113858616.20020905101717@centras.lt> pic> Maybe there is a kind of argument to be made here for capitalists. pic> What we need is free and open competition in the security realm, a pic> marketplace of cryptological greed ;-}. That's it !!! We all need FREE AND OPEN COMPETITION everywhere. This is much more important than private interests -- Best regards, DeBug mailto:debug@centras.lt From rms at computerbytesman.com Wed Sep 4 06:34:26 2002 From: rms at computerbytesman.com (Richard M. Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:57 2005 Subject: [free-sklyarov] Is Adobe violating the DMCA? Message-ID: <006901c25417$c9fbd260$6401a8c0@rms> Oh the irony....... http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB1031109738388462355,00.html Adobe Sues to Resolve Dispute Over Use of Two Font Sets DOW JONES NEWSWIRES SAN JOSE -- Adobe Systems Inc. filed suit in U.S. District Court to resolve a contractual dispute over whether it has the right to let its customers embed fonts belonging to International Typeface Corp. in electronic documents. The software company said Tuesday that it is also filing an arbitration proceeding in London seeking affirmation of the same contractual rights with respect to Agfa Monotype fonts. Adobe also asked the court to declare that its Acrobat product doesn't violate certain provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act as claimed by International Copyright and Agfa Monotype, both of which are units of Belgian imaging company Agfa-Gevaert N.V. .... From rms at computerbytesman.com Wed Sep 4 06:44:19 2002 From: rms at computerbytesman.com (Richard M. Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:57 2005 Subject: [free-sklyarov] Adobe Files Suit to Protect Customers' Rights to Use Fonts Message-ID: <007a01c25419$2b969680$6401a8c0@rms> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020903/30424_1.html Press Release Source: Adobe Systems Incorporated Adobe Files Suit to Protect Customers' Rights to Use Fonts Tuesday September 3, 6:36 pm ET SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 3, 2002--Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE - News), the leader in network publishing, today announced it has asked the U.S. District Court in San Jose, Calif., for declaratory relief to resolve a contractual dispute that Adobe has the right to permit its customers to embed ITC (International Typeface Corporation) fonts in electronic documents. Adobe is also filing an arbitration proceeding in London seeking affirmation of the same contractual rights with respect to Monotype fonts. Adobe attempted to resolve this matter informally with Monotype and ITC, but was unsuccessful. By taking these actions, Adobe hopes to resolve these issues for its customers. "Many years ago Adobe anticipated the shift to electronic documents. At that time, we obtained the embedding rights from our font partners necessary to permit the creation of electronic documents," said Jim Heeger, senior vice president, cross-media products. "We are now defending the rights we obtained for our customers to continue to conduct business in the electronic age." In addition, Adobe has asked the court to declare that Adobe's popular Acrobat product does not violate certain provisions of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) as claimed by ITC and Agfa Monotype. Adobe believes these claims are being made to gain ITC and Agfa leverage in the contractual disputes. Adobe strongly disputes this claim and is asking the court to rule that there is no violation of the DMCA. About Adobe Systems Incorporated Founded in 1982, Adobe Systems Incorporated (www.adobe.com), the leader in network publishing, offers a comprehensive line of software for enterprise and creative professional customers. Its products enable customers to create, manage and deliver visually rich, compelling and reliable content. Based in San Jose, Calif., Adobe is one of the world's largest software companies. This press release contains forward-looking statements related to litigation that involves risks and uncertainties that could cause our financial results to differ materially. Factors that might cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to: lengthy legal proceedings, costs associated with litigation, diversion of management's attention and resources, and an adverse judgment. When used in this report, the words "hopes" ,"anticipated", "believes" and similar expressions are generally intended to identify forward-looking statements. For further discussion of these and other risks and uncertainties, individuals should refer to the Company's SEC filings, including the 2001 annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q to be filed in 2002. The Company does not undertake an obligation to update forward-looking statements. Note to Editors: Adobe, the Adobe logo and Acrobat are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Contact: Adobe Systems Incorporated Holly Campbell, 408/536-6401 (Media) campbell@adobe.com Mike Saviage, 408/536-4416 (Investor Relations) ir@adobe.com From rms at computerbytesman.com Wed Sep 4 09:45:21 2002 From: rms at computerbytesman.com (Richard M. Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:57 2005 Subject: [free-sklyarov] Internet News: Monotype says that Adobe is in the copy protection circumvention business Message-ID: <004d01c25432$75d22700$6501a8c0@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Adobe Takes Font Partners to Court http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/1456481 The move comes after Agfa Monotype, in May, accused Adobe of violating the DMCA -- though it did not call Adobe by name, referring to it only as "a software developer." In May, Monotype said Adobe's Acrobat product improperly alters its fonts and sets their embedding bits at level 4, meaning that those who receives a document using that font can install that font on their computers without ever having to license the font from Monotype or its subsidiary. Monotype said the software does this, even when the font's creator has deliberately set its embedding level at level 1 (no embedding at all) or level 2 (embedding for viewing and printing, but not editing). From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Sep 4 10:30:04 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:57 2005 Subject: [free-sklyarov] Internet News: Monotype says that Adobe is in the copy protection circumvention business In-Reply-To: <004d01c25432$75d22700$6501a8c0@ne1.client2.attbi.com> References: <004d01c25432$75d22700$6501a8c0@ne1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: <20020904173004.GC6251@zork.net> Richard M. Smith writes: > Adobe Takes Font Partners to Court > http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/1456481 > > The move comes after Agfa Monotype, in May, accused Adobe of violating > the DMCA -- though it did not call Adobe by name, referring to it only > as "a software developer." > > In May, Monotype said Adobe's Acrobat product improperly alters its > fonts and sets their embedding bits at level 4, meaning that those who > receives a document using that font can install that font on their > computers without ever having to license the font from Monotype or its > subsidiary. Monotype said the software does this, even when the font's > creator has deliberately set its embedding level at level 1 (no > embedding at all) or level 2 (embedding for viewing and printing, but > not editing). I believe the author of this article is mistaken, and the incident in May was actually about the "embed" program, not Acrobat: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~twm/embed/dmca.html -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ |