From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:00:56 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: One type of song that is coming to increasing prominence in recent months is the folk song of protest. You have to admire people who sing these songs -- it takes a certain amount of courage to get up in a coffeehouse or a college auditorium and come out in favor of the things that everybody else in the audience is AGAINST -- like peace, justice, and brotherhood, and so on. But, the nicest thing about a protest song is that it makes you feel so good. I have a song here which, I realize, should be accompanied on a folk instrument (in which category, the piano does not, alas, qualify) -- so, imagine if you will that I am playing an 88-string guitar. We are the Folk Song Army, Ev'ryone of us -- cares. We all hate poverty, war, and injustice, Unlike the rest of you squares. There are innocuous folk songs, yeah, But we regard 'em with scorn. The folks who sing 'em have no social conscience, Why, they don't even care if Jimmy Crack Corn.... If you feel dissatisfaction, Strum your frustrations away, Some people may prefer action, But -- gimme a folk song any old day. The tune don't have to be clever, And it don't matter if you put a coupla extra syllables into a line. It sounds more "ethnic" if it ain't good English, And it don't even gotta rhyme -- Excuse me -- "rhyne." Remember the war against Franco? That's the kind where each of us belongs. Though he may have won all the battles, We had all the good songs. So join in the Folk Song Army, Guitars are the weapons we bring To the fight against poverty, war, and injustice -- Ready! Aim! Sing! From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:01:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: DIRECTIONS From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:01:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Convention Center stop. Trains run approximately every 10 minutes. The convention center is on the south side of the street; walk 1/2 block east on W. San Carlos St. to the snake. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:01:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: light rail line at the Tamien station. VTA light rail schedules: http://www.vta.org/schedules/SC_901.html Driving: Downtown San Jose is easily accessible from US 101, Interstate 280, and California 87. See the URL below for maps and recommended routes: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=S+Market+St+and+W+San+Carlos+St&csz=San+Jose%2C+CA Parking: An inexpensive pay parking lot is available at the San Jose Convention Center, across San Carlos from the snake sculpture. The entrance is from Almaden Blvd., one block west. Please do not park at Adobe! WHAT TO BRING Please bring a sign or a U.S. or Russian flag, and a cell phone if you have one. Keep signs simple (4 words is ideal) so that they are easy to read for people passing by. "Adobe: drop the charges" and "Free Dmitry" are examples. Free event T-shirts to the first 50 attendees. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:01:31 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: --Macki From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:01:37 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: walk to a decent Mexican restaurant for a burrito, or catch the light rail home. So much flexibility! -- Don Marti Free Dmitry! http://zgp.org/~dmarti Monday, July 23, San Jose, Moscow, and more dmarti@zgp.org http://eff.org/alerts/20010719_eff_sklyarov_alert.html From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:02:03 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Avenue together. TRANSIT VTA light rail: Take the Santa Teresa/Baypointe line to the Convention Center stop. Trains run approximately every 10 minutes. The convention center is on the south side of the street; walk 1/2 block east on W. San Carlos St. to the snake. Caltrain: Transfer from Caltrain to the Santa Teresa/Baypointe light rail line at the Tamien station. VTA light rail schedules: http://www.vta.org/schedules/SC_901.html DRIVING Downtown San Jose is easily accessible from US 101, Interstate 280, and California 87. See the URL below for maps and recommended routes: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=S+Market+St+and+W+San+Carlos+St&csz=Sa n+Jose%2C+CA PARKING An inexpensive pay parking lot is available at the San Jose Convention Center, across San Carlos from the snake sculpture. The entrance is from Almaden Blvd., one block west. RIDESHARE/CARPOOL EVENT CONTACT Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org 650-743-8035 (cell) Free event T-shirts to the first 50-100 attendees. Free Dmitry! 3.12. SAN LUIS OBISPO (CA) EVENT CONTACT John Kew, peri@logorrhea.com, 550-0681 http://lists.geekresearch.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/slo-protest 3.13. SEATTLE (WA) EVENT DETAILS We plan to congregate at Gasworks park at 11:00am, where we will await the outcome of the EFF/Adobe talks, receiving live updates by cell phone. If the talks fail, we will proceed up 34th street to Adobe and picket until 1:00pm. If the talks succeed or last past 1:00, we will use the time to discuss future actions. http://woozle.org/~neale/sklyarov/ RIDESHARE / CARPOOL EVENT CONTACT Neale Pickett neale@woozle.org 206-290-7309 (cell) 3.14. WASHINGTON (DC) EVENT DETAILS http://www.lupercalia.net/adobe/ EVENT CONTACT David C. Merrill, david@lupercalia.net From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:02:06 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: demonstration. If you come late, just look for the people with the signs. DEMONSTRATION ------------- These are the issues and the ONLY issues we will be raising: 1) Free Dmitry Sklyarov 2) Repeal the DMCA (details below). IMPORTANT NOTE: *** We must avoid raising anti-Adobe issues *** The EFF and Adobe have agreed to talk in exchange for calling off the anti-Adobe protests. We are taking their actions in good faith and focusing on other equally, if not more important issues. If you would like to protest Adobe's actions leading to Sklyarov's arrest, please, organize another protest. Also note that at this point there is very little that Adobe can do for Dmitry Sklyarov, as the case is now in the hands of the FBI, the Attorney General John Ashcroft, and the U.S. judicial system. The best we can hope for from Adobe is a public apology and a promise not to pursue individuals under the DMCA in the future. ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE: *** We are *NOT* protesting the FBI or the FBI's action in this case. They are "doing their jobs" by following the DMCA which *is* in effect. Protesters are specifically requested NOT to bring anti-FBI signs or shirts to the protest. We currently don't have any enemies other than the DMCA and we like to keep it that way. With the current climate around the country regarding demonstrations we are not willing to jeopardize the freedom and lives of our fellow protesters or Dmitry himself via our own or another person's actions. People unwilling to abide by these rules and goals should *NOT* come to this protest. Finally, we will abide by ANY REQUEST the Chicago Police Department makes of us, including moving our location, not handing out leaflets, etc. We are not here to cause unrest -- we're here to disseminate information regarding Dmitry and the DMCA *only*. Again, if you can't abide by that, please don't jeopardize the dignity of this group. WHAT YOU CAN DO AS A DEMONSTRATOR --------------------------------- FIRST of all, if you intend to join us for the Chicago protests, subscribe to the sklyarov-chicago mailing list here: http://ufo.chicago.il.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sklyarov-chicago/ This is where we will be discussing our plans and strategies. PLEASE CONFIRM WITH US if you expect to be there so that we have a general idea how many list subscribers will show up downtown. SECONDLY, PLEASE MAKE A SIGN FOR THE PROTEST. Make it big and as sturdy as possible, with big lettering and a short slogan (4 words or less) like, "FREE DMITRY" or "REPEAL THE DMCA" or "CONSUMERS HAVE NO RIGHTS". If you can, make two or three. I recommend heavy tagboard and a wooden handle. Even cardboard would make a sturdier back -- but make sure you put white paper on it first for MAXIMUM VISIBILITY. No anti Adobe, FBI, or other law-enforcement slogans, please. THIRDLY: Do you have legal access to a printer or a copier? We have handout posters and information available here: http://two-bit.northpark.edu/free-sklyarov/ Pictures of Dmitry and his family are available here: http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Sklyarov/Graphics/ If you make a poster, save it in a .jpg format and email it to pedro@tastytronic.net so that others may use them. Pedro will be printing some 8 1/2 by 11 handouts with the poster on one side and DMCA information like the Reuter's feed or our own press release on the other side. Hand people the flyers with the poster side up -- when they turn it over, they'll see the article. The Reuter's article will be in the same directory as the poster .jpgs. Use bright neon paper for handouts if you can. If you can print some posters or signs, please do so and let the sklyarov-chicago list know so that we can coordinate our efforts! FOURTHLY, Please dress appropriately for a public demonstartion. No obscenities or "innapropriate dress". T-shirts and shorts are fine -- casual clothing is better. As sad as it is, our appearance WILL have an effect on our audience. We want them to hear about this injustice -- today is not the day to be shocking or make a fashion statement. SIXTH, If you have personal contacts in any of the news media around town, contact them and send them the Reuter's feed, our poster, this message, or direct them to http://www.freesklyarov.org/ -- we want media coverage of our demonstration. It's GOOD but NOT GOOD ENOUGH just to hand out 500 leaflets. The TV or radio or newspaper interviewing demonstrators will reach many more people than our small group can. All this information will be at: http://two-bit.northpark.edu/free-sklyarov/ FINALLY, be on time, and be ready to be courteous but intensely committed to disseminating this information to the American Public. Do you even KNOW any non-computer users who have even HEARD of the DMCA? We must maket his a national issue -- the DMCA strips the rights of the American Citizen. It's already stripped the rights of a Russian. Questions and comments can be directed to inkblot@geocities.com or pedro@tastytronic.net CANCELLATION ------------ If at any time during the protest, it appears that our goals will be compromised by violence, immaturity, or sabotage, the coordinators of the event will not hesitate to call off the event and send everyone home. There are important issues at stake, most importantly the release of Dmitry Sklyarov. It is in our best intrest to present ourselves in a civil, orderly manner. CONTACT ------- If you have any questions or comments, please contact Nate Riffe or Peter Peterson . -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- FREE DMITRY SKLYAROV -- FBI has imprisioned a Russian software engineer for promoting and teaching the concept of "fair use". Read more: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010719_eff_sklyarov_alert.html From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:02:20 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: aq=yes&id_cat=8&categories=Sklyarov+Controversy) Please let me know if there are any changes... Also, Atlanta, Detroit, Moscow, and San Diego; let me know the outcome of your planning meetings... -Matt Hamrick P.S. - Are there no protests in D/FW or Houston? For Shame! 3. Activism Opportunities 3.1. Are There Any Protests Planned? Yes, it appears that there are going to be protests in multiple cities across the US and perhaps some in other countries. The date for the protests is Monday, 23 July, 2001. The rest of this section deals with protests in specific cities. 3.2. ALBEQUERQUE (NM) WHEN/WHERE Noon. Federal Building on Gold St. Albequerque Protest Site RIDESHARE INFO EVENT CONTACT Contacts: freedmitry@jaraco.com Jason Coombs: 505.456.6655 Rob Franklin: 505.550.5437 3.3. ATLANTA (GA) PLANNING MEETING Sunday, July 22nd, 4pm at Innovox. This is a cyber-cafe in Midtown, near the Kroger and the new Home Depot on Ponce. It is next to City Hall East and shares a parking lot with Kroger. They have a wireless network and plenty of comfy chairs. INNOVOX LOUNGE 699 PONCE DE LEON AVE NE, ATLANTA, GA 30308, (404) 872-4482 We have a mailing list, you can sign up and check out the archive to see past messages. WHERE Atlanta Rally Discussion List EVENT CONTACT Andrea andrea@gravitt.org 3.4. AUSTIN (TX) WHEN/WHERE DMCA Protest on the Capitol steps, AUSTIN, Texas, MONDAY, 11am-12:30pm EVENT CONTACT Dkr. Armand Geddyn, ageddyn@minitru.org Michael Badnarik 2002 Libertarian Campaign 3.5. BOSTON (MA) WHEN/WHERE Monday, July 23, 12:00 NOON Meet outside Park Street Station just outside the T exit More information available at: http://freesklyarov.org/boston/ RIDESHARE / CARPOOL http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010723_boston_rideshare.html EVENT CONTACT C. Scott Ananian cananian@mit.edu work: 617 253-7710 cell: 617 233-1238 Mailing List: dmitry-boston-subscribe@lm.lcs.mit.edu Mailing List Archive 3.6. CHICAGO (IL) WHEN/WHERE Monday, July 23, 2001 from 11 AM to 1 PM Central Time At the public plaza across from the federal building downtown. The address is: Everett McKinley Dirksen Federal Building 219 South Dearborn Street Suite 905 Chicago, IL 60604 and we will be meeting near the big orange Calder statue at 11:00 on Monday morning. This is what the statue looks like: http://www.a1focus.com/arch/calder.htm From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:02:20 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: demonstration. If you come late, just look for the people with the signs. Chicago Rally Site Chicago Rally Discussion List Rideshare/Carpool Board for this rally EVENT CONTACT Nate Riffe, inkblot@tastytronic.net 3.7. DENVER (CO) WHEN/WHERE Monday, July 23, 2001; 12:00 Noon to 2:00 PM on 19th and Stout RIDESHARE/CARPOOL EVENT CONTACT Sonja Tideman sonjat@cs.unm.edu Mailing List: free-sklyarov-denver-subscribe@booyaka.com 3.8. DETROIT (MI) WHEN/WHERE Planning meeting tonight at Denny's on 12 mile and Mound in Warren. The address is: 6004 E. 12 Mile Rd, Warren, MI 48092. Rideshare/Carpool Board for this rally. EVENT CONTACT Kenneth R. Burger (810)977-1674 krburger@burger-family.org 3.9. MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (MN) WHEN/WHERE Primary protest: 11am - 1pm Federal Courthouse, 316 N Robert St., Saint Paul If you can't make it to Saint Paul, there is a federal building at 300 S 4th St. in Minneapolis. Map of Downtown Saint Paul Rideshare/Carpool Board for this rally EVENT CONTACT Chris freedima@underwhelm.org Please direct protest-related phone calls to 651-222-4722 3.10. MOSCOW (RUSSIA) WHEN/WHERE Details coming soon RIDESHARE / CARPOOL EVENT CONTACT Ilya V. Vasilyev hscool@netclub.ru +7 (095) 162-4767 3.11. MUNICH (GERMANY) WHEN/WHERE Adobe headoffice Germany on wednesday 25th. meeting 15.00 h at their office unterschleissheim. MUNICH Rideshare Information EVENT CONTACT 3.12. NEW YORK CITY (NY) WHEN/WHERE Time: Noon on Monday July, 23 2001 Where: 5th avenue between 41st and 42nd street, in front of New York public library. Adobe has an office across the street at 8 West 40th Street. See map. We will have several short signs: "Free Dmitry" "Boycott Adobe" "Stop DMCA" If you can bring your sign, make it short and straight to the point. EVENT CONTACT Leonid Gorkin email: lgorkin@excite.com or lgorkin1@nyc.rr.com phone: 212 794 1565 3.13. PORTLAND (OR) WHEN/WHERE We, in Portland, have decided to hold our event on Wednesday, 11am-1pm at Terry Schrunk Plaza downtown at 1237 SW 3rd Avenue. The reason for the change in date is two-fold: Encouragement from the EFF to delay protest until resolution is reached with Adobe and the unfortunate simultaneous action of local activists regarding the sad slaying of a protester in Italy by police. RIDESHARE / CARPOOL Rideshare Info EVENT CONTACT Jeme A. Brelin jeme@brelin.net http://www.paultopia.net/adobe/ http://mail.bitmine.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-portland 3.14. RENO (NV) WHEN/WHERE Bruce Thompson Federal Building 400 S. Virginia Street Reno, NV 11:30-1:00 How To Get There By Public Transit: The number 1 bus goes from Meadowood Mall along Virginia St. to downtown, and back. You'll want to get off at Virginia and Liberty. If you're coming in on PRIDE don't get off at Meadowood Mall. Take it all the way to downtown More details on the Reno Mailing list. Subscribe Instructions EVENT CONTACT Sam Phillips sam@dasbistro.com 775-843-4114 3.15. SALT LAKE CITY (UT) WHEN/WHERE Monday, July 23, 11AM at the Federal Building in downtown Salt Lake City at the corner of 100 South and State Street. EVENT CONTACT Chris Thompson cdthompson@home.com 801-231-6822 3.16. SAN DIEGO (CA) WHEN/WHERE Planning Meeting ??? OSCON 8:00 PM Sunday in the Lobby Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina 1380 Harbor Island Drive San Diego, California 92101 Rideshare/Carpool Board for this rally EVENT CONTACT 3.17. SAN JOSE (CA) WHEN/WHERE RALLY AT "THE SNAKE": We will be meeting at 11am PT in downtown San Jose at the snake sculpture, "Quetzalcoatl", which is at the south end of Plaza de Cesar Chavez, at the corner of South Market St. and West San Carlos St. Plaza de Cesar Chavez is across San Carlos from the Hyatt St. Claire Hotel. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:02:20 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Avenue together. TRANSIT VTA light rail: Take the Santa Teresa/Baypointe line to the Convention Center stop. Trains run approximately every 10 minutes. The convention center is on the south side of the street; walk 1/2 block east on W. San Carlos St. to the snake. Caltrain: Transfer from Caltrain to the Santa Teresa/Baypointe light rail line at the Tamien station. VTA light rail schedules: http://www.vta.org/schedules/SC_901.html DRIVING Downtown San Jose is easily accessible from US 101, Interstate 280, and California 87. See the URL below for maps and recommended routes: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=S+Market+St+and+W+San+Carlos+St&csz=Sa n+Jose%2C+CA PARKING An inexpensive pay parking lot is available at the San Jose Convention Center, across San Carlos from the snake sculpture. The entrance is from Almaden Blvd., one block west. RIDESHARE/CARPOOL EVENT CONTACT Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org 650-743-8035 (cell) Free event T-shirts to the first 50-100 attendees. Free Dmitry! 3.18. SAN LUIS OBISPO (CA) EVENT CONTACT John Kew, peri@logorrhea.com, 550-0681 http://lists.geekresearch.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/slo-protest 3.19. SEATTLE (WA) EVENT DETAILS We plan to congregate at Gasworks park at 11:00am, where we will await the outcome of the EFF/Adobe talks, receiving live updates by cell phone. If the talks fail, we will proceed up 34th street to Adobe and picket until 1:00pm. If the talks succeed or last past 1:00, we will use the time to discuss future actions. http://woozle.org/~neale/sklyarov/ SEATTLE Mailing List RIDESHARE / CARPOOL EVENT CONTACT Neale Pickett neale@woozle.org 206-290-7309 (cell) 3.20. WASHINGTON (DC) EVENT DETAILS http://www.lupercalia.net/adobe/ Rideshare Info EVENT CONTACT David C. Merrill, david@lupercalia.net From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:02:33 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: information concerning the arrest of Mr. Sklyarov and the DMCA. The protesters seek the release of Mr. Sklyarov from US custody both as a matter of principle and of law. The FBI arrested him at a conference in Las Vegas, and charged him with violating an American law for work he did in Russia as a Russian citizen as an employee of a Russian company. He is being held without bail pending trial, accused of violating the DMCA. He faces five years in prison despite sloppy investigative work by the FBI at the request of an American corporation (Adobe Systems) afraid that he had discovered and revealed flaws in their softwareUs security. The protesters also seek the repeal of the DMCA. Mr. Sklyarov faces extraordinary fines and prison time for discovering and sharing flaws in the security of Adobe's e-book software. In every other industry, this role of the whistle blower would be lauded by society; however the DMCA makes revealing defects in computer software criminal. The DMCA also threatens future computer security research--Mr. Sklyarov is a PhD candidate in the field of computer security, and many in that field are beginning to fear the substantial criminal and civil liabilities the DMCA creates for them. The DMCA creates a climate of fear that stands to erode US leadership in the development of secure computer software, not to mention its chilling effect every American's freedom of speech. For information regarding the arrest of Mr. Sklyarov, please visit: http://freesklyarov.org http://www.boycottadobe.com For information regarding the DMCA, please visit: http://www.underwhelm.org/decss/dmca.pdf http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/DMCA/ For information on its effect on legitimate security research: http://www.eff.org/Legal/Cases/Felten_v_RIAA/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:03:17 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: in the age of printing press, it have been simple to look after copyright protection. Only small amount of people had the posibility of making copies. Nowadays, almost everyone can make a digital copy and it's hard for police to enforce copyright protection. Looking at the DMCA cases we can observe that this law makes it more centralized again. There are not so many people able to break a security protection and police can focus on them, rather than focusing on every one citizen. Transfering the responsibility from the programmer of such program to his user, situation begins decentralized again. I don't want to provide any way to make unethical things, I do simply want to provide freedom of speech, freedom of programming, you know... What do you think of it? Is there any lawyer who could say me more? If it were possible, I would be happy to distribute AEBPR from my website, however it couldn't be paid for, so I expect some freeware license or even GNU GPL. Can someone here say me Dmitry's email adress? I'm very sorry about my poor English :( I hope you understood what I was trying to say. Thanks for answer and for big support of Dmitry! Hynek Hanke http://www.volny.cz/gnumanaics From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:03:19 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: there was a statement posted on our web site earlier today. A decision was made to take it down (not sure when) until the conclusion of the EFF meeting in order to ensure that it accurately reflected any outcomes from that meeting." -Declan From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:03:24 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: First, the recognition that the DMCA is flawed in several respects and needs to be substantially amended so as to provide for the *real* needs of intellectual property protection in the digital era, in conformance with a strict civil-liberties view of the Constitution, especially a robust affirmation of traditional Fair Use and reproduction rights for legitimate personal and archival use, as well as not impinging upon free inquiry and research. Such a balance is not only possible, but in my estimation preferable for the long-term strength, stability and integrity of the ebook industry. I am not against laws *like* the DMCA when properly crafted and balanced -- I am opposed to *the current* DMCA since it is neither, unfortunately. Second, the recognition that in dealing with the protection of intellectual property, the actual implementation using DRM technologies (which may include anti-circumvention technologies) must equally balance between the needs, wants and most importantly expectations of the end-users with the needs and wants of the owners of the intellectual property. This is good business sense since the end-users *are* our customers, the source of the revenue stream to build our ebook future. Until now, the momentum and focus in the ebook industry has been overwhelmingly skewed in the direction of content owners with total obliviousness to the end-users and their expectations, as if they didn't matter (this skewed view is reflected in several provisions of the present DMCA.) I assert this lack of balance works against the long-term interests of content owners (both publishers and authors) to adequately profit from their content, as I've argued before in more detail. Publishers especially need to realize the importance of meeting the expectations of the book reading public. Third, and again related to the above, the recognition that the ebook publishing industry needs assurance that their intellectual property is reasonably protected by state-of-the-art technology. This assurance cannot be met with "security by obscurity", nor with "security by Federal Marshals". Thus it is important to ebook publishers that free and independent, peer-reviewed and published scholarly research and inquiry into digital security technologies be encouraged and completely unencumbered by the onus of law or license -- true academic freedom of the highest order. I believe ebook publishers fully understand the infancy of present DRM technologies, and thus want to see the prime and sole focus of technology providers, such as Adobe, in improving the technology, using the findings of independent research and even from the "blackhat" crackers as a yardstick to measure progress and to learn from, and not to focus efforts and energy in maintaining the obviously inadequate status-quo via the force of law and government -- an unintended result of the present DMCA. I also believe ebook publishers have no illusion that a perfect DRM can be built which will reduce copyright infringement to zero while meeting the needs, wants and expectations of the end-user -- all they want is reasonable protection that keeps honest people honest (or even *rewards* people for being honest -- such business models have yet to be explored) and keeps piracy mostly underground through diligence and enforcement of well-written and balanced laws that focus law-enforcement activity on actual infringing activity, such as an amended DMCA I mention above. I offer these opinions for constructive reasons. Certainly many in the various sectors of the ebook industry (the "stakeholders") will disagree with one or more of the views expressed above. That's expected, but let's focus on a constructive dialogue -- I do believe that with a community effort, possibly as part of an organization dedicated to effecting that dialogue which includes the *full* spectrum of stakeholder interests (from the civil libertarians to the traditional content owners), we will be able to come to a common and balanced consensus, with a clear vision for the path we should take, both business-wise and in the legal arena. At this moment in time, we do not have this clear vision nor a consensus. Regarding consensus, if Adobe and EFF can come to one in only a few hours under a pressure-cooker situation, separated by a quite wide chasm, there is great hope that all the various stakeholders can do likewise. Jon Noring TeBC Administrator Chairman and co-founder of Windspun Inc. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:03:27 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: How about Ross Nadel, chief of the computer crime and intellectual property unit at the U.S. attorney's office in San Jose? He used to work with Mueller in the SF office and then was assigned to this task. Since he's not in the limelight as much and he's in San Jose, maybe he's more familiar with what's going on and we should write to him. Maybe he can influence Mueller. Disclaimer: I haven't done the research, just some quick Web surfing. Tabinda -- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:03:39 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: yet. That you got help from experts who know more than you about a subject isn't a bad thing *if you aren't expected to know as much as the experts.* Different with the Gov't. No direct boycott. You can't play good cop / bad cop with cops. And the gov't won't want to admit that outsiders know more than/ can advise them about the law. With Adobe, our protest = geeks persuading geeks. Adobe's programmers probably read Slashdot, etc., knew what was up, and could sympathize with Dmitri. With the gov't there'll be much less common ground. The FBI/DoJ acts suspicious at best about clever programming and hacks. With the Gov't, they won't want the appearance of responding to protesters. Especially as to them "protester" = a mix of "riot, Seattle, tree-sitters..." = people you never deal with. Adobe looked out the window to see "unhappy customer base" = people you can't ignore. With the confirmation hearing- these are the people who voted for the DMCA. Their gut reaction might be "Do I want that an innocent man was arrested by the law I made? Easiest solution is to think of him as a guilty man." Ever watch prosecutors / officials talking about actually innocent people who've been sent to jail and now released? They'll go to contorted lengths to avoid admitting the people are in fact innocent.... "well, they're *procedurally* innocent, but they still must've done *something*" The Gov't will really want to find something wrong w/ Dmitri. We'll have to be careful not to trigger their defensiveness. food for thought. Kathryn Myronuk From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:04:05 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:04:06 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:04:08 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: engineering for the purpose of "achiev[ing] interoperability of an independently created computer program." At least one of the authors of this thing had at least one clue. Still I think this is a great line of reasoning that ought to be pursued in spite of this exemption. roger From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:04:45 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ----- Forwarded message from "Stanley G. Bubrouski" ----- Mailing-List: contact bugtraq-help@securityfocus.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: moderator for bugtraq@securityfocus.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:50:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stanley G. Bubrouski" To: "Eric D. Williams" Cc: "'aleph1@securityfocus.com'" , "bugtraq@securityfocus.com" Subject: Re: hacker copyrights was [RE: telnetd exploit code] Based on the articles you used as reference here it would seem to suggest that nothing posted on Bugtraq is subject to copyright laws that could be defended in a court of law. There is an exception in this case however since the copyrighter of the document (yes code published in this form can be referred to asa document as if it were code published in a book with its own individual copyright) specifically stated it could not be published to this mailling list. That said, that is in fact voided by the fact the author did restrict what mediums his document could be published on. To publish a document electronically and then not specify any circumstances in which it could be published voids said restriction. Why? Because the author(s) published this document electronically at some point (unless it was stolen from a private computer system or from a site where restrictions are placed on republication, but since this was not done on the document itself it would not hold up in a court of law) without putting the necessary restrictions on its redistribution. Everyone here seems to assume that because the code had a banner saying it was confidential and unpublished proprietary code doesn't mean it can't be distributed. If the code were in fact private, Teso would not have published it (again assuming it wasn't stolen from a private machine), that means they willing distriubted their alledged private code and voided any argument to the contrary. If this code was indeed stolen in some way I would encourage that all parties involved in stealing it be prosecuted to the full extent of all applicable laws in the country from which the file was stolen from. PS: Aleph if you find this too broad or you are just sick and tired of this thread I won't be offended if you do not put this through to the list. Regards, Stan -- Stan Bubrouski stan@ccs.neu.edu On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Eric D. Williams wrote: > Re: the lack of legal backing here are a number of links that appear relevant > to the question (do you violate copyright by publishing hacker code, discovered > subsequent to intrusion?). Indeed it appears that the law is fuzzy on this one > concerning copyright and intellectual property. But, given the circumstance > that a listing or binary of the aformentioned code can not be deterined as > authorized in the first case - the intrusion itself is illegal, it appears it > can not pass the copyright or intellectual property tests. > > Refs with USC refs: > http://www.eff.org/Publications/Mike_Godwin/phrack_riggs_neidorf_godwin.article > Ref with USC footnotes: http://www.netatty.com/copyright.html > > On Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:48 AM, aleph1@securityfocus.com > [SMTP:aleph1@securityfocus.com] wrote: > > The are quite a few responses to this thread but its painfully obvious > > that no one is quite sure if what they are saying is backed by law. > > Lots of IANAL. So unless someone with more than a simply opinion posts > > I'll kill the thread here. > > > > -- > > Elias Levy > > SecurityFocus.com > > http://www.securityfocus.com/ > > Si vis pacem, para bellum > ----- End forwarded message ----- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:05:20 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: en.pdf) I only see that they have a "copyright office". In their listing of principal officers, there appears to be nobody responsible for the protection of consumer / fair use rights. 3.) How is the WIPO protected against lobbying? 4.) How is it democratically controlled? If anyone has more information on WIPO and related treaties, in particular detailed criticisms and descriptions of its organization and structure, please e-mail me or reply to the list if appropriate. Perhaps it's time for "DENOUNCE WIPO TREATIES" flyers and posters. I'll try to compile as much information as I can. Regards, Erik -- Scientific Reviewer, Freelancer, Humanist -- Berlin/Germany Phone: +49-30-45491008 - Web: The Origins of Peace and Violence: "History is full of people who, out of fear or ignorance or the lust for power, have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value which truly belong to all of us. We must not let it happen again." -- Carl Sagan From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:05:24 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: What do we want? FREE DMITRY! When do we want it? NOW! Hey, hey, ho, ho DMCA has got to go! Ho, ho, hey, hey, Set Dmitry free today! -- Don Marti What do we want? Free Dmitry! When do we want it? Now! http://zgp.org/~dmarti Free Dmitry: http://eff.org/ dmarti@zgp.org Free the web, burn all GIFs: http://burnallgifs.org/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:05:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: And unto Me they must return. -- from The Charge of the Goddess, Doreen Valiente From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:05:39 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:05:41 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:16 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Check out this bogus language kungfo: "Fair use is an affirmative defense. As such, it is a privilege, not a right." For example, as noted by another commentator, "a fair use defense might allow a user to quote a passage from a book but it does not follow that the user is allowed to break into a bookstore and steal a book" to do so.12 Such an interpretation would run counter to the intent and purpose underlying various criminal and civil trespass laws, anti-hacking laws, and privacy laws. On 04-Aug-2001, Mark K. Bilbo wrote: > On Saturday 04 August 2001 17:40, Jon O . wrote: > > On 04-Aug-2001, Mark K. Bilbo wrote: > > > On Wednesday 01 August 2001 14:23, douglay@relicorp.com wrote: > > > > Anyone interested a quick puke should click here: > > > > > > > > http://www.inside.com/product/product.asp?entity=&pf_ID=E8EECFA3-CBD1- > > > > 447E-952C-CC16283D266C > > > > > > > > If it wasn't clear before, this article should make it crystal- > > > > clear: > > > > > > > > The publishing industry, and its allies in the music and film > > > > industries, cannot tolerate the free exchange of digital information > > > > across the Internet, and are willing to go to any lengths whatsoever > > > > to see that the free exchange of digital information is squelched. > > > > > > > > Anyone for a march on the AAP offices during Usenix? These people > > > > have basically declared war on programmers. > > > > > > > > -Doug > > > > > > Not just programmers but on the Republic itself. The more I read what the > > > founding fathers *meant with copyright and about their concerns about > > > monopolies granted by the state, I'm moving to the position that people > > > such as Parloff are traitors to the Republic. > > > > > > And I'm not just throwing words. I *mean it. > > > > > > The free flow of ideas is essential to maintaining a democracy. Ours is > > > in enough trouble with a public that is becoming increasingly less > > > educated and informed. But to directly assault the limitations the > > > founders meant on monopolies on information is to betray what this nation > > > allegeds to be. > > > > > > "Intellectual property" is, I now think, treason. > > > > Yes, I think you are right for the most part. There is a certain amount of > > need for it as I'm sure you have read to induce the continued production > > of it. However, at this point in time, everything we do is usually created > > under the employ of a company and therefore becomes their property. > > > > If you end up writing anything I'd be happy to publish it on > > www.anti-dmca.org and make cure people read it. > > > > Once you start seeing the overall plan with Windows XP and ebooks > > and monitoring it starts freaking you out... > > It's a blatant attempt by corporations to return us to fuedalism. And, in > fact, what I'm reading about the history of copyright is that it was a major > tool by monarchs to CENSOR. > > Our Constitution says a "limited time" for a reason. The free flow of > information is essential to a democracy. But democracy isn't what > corporations want. Not anymore. > > Jefferson himself rejected the concept of "property" in regards to ideas. > "Intellectual property" is wholly un-American and detrimental to the Republic. > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > free-sklyarov mailing list > free-sklyarov@zork.net > http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:23 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: which we as a society grant temporarily to encourage the "useful arts and sciences." The grants are intended to create mutual benefit. Not create a "right" where one did not exist. I think it is rather clear the intent of the Founders was that all ideas would enter the public domain as quickly as possible. So far as I can tell "fair use" was the fundamental right they considered so obvious they didn't see need to specify such as a right. And they appear to have believed they were clear enough when they said "limited time" concerning the monopolies. Further, I see no reason at all to believe they would want to limit ANY non-commercial use of copyrighted material. The idea was to financially reward the creators, not to restrict the rights of others to access ideas. Jefferson would be appalled at how the corporations are corrupting the concept of copyright. And from what I've seen of his thinking on the matter so far, I think he'd be advocating ABOLISHING copyright entirely as better than allowing this kind of corporate corruption to go on. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Scottaline" To: "Jay Allen" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] Fair use "rights" > On Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:10:51 -0700 > Jay Allen insightfully noted: > > J > JA> What's the difference between a right and "something you > JA> can't be > JA> prosecuted for"? I'd say that it would be the ease with which it can > JA> change. 218 Representatives, 51 Senators and one President go for a > JA> hell > JA> of a lot less (as far as the MPAA/RIAA are concerned) than one > JA> Constitutional amendment. :-) Without a right--a Constitutional > JA> right, if > JA> you prefer-one little amendment to Title 17 and >poof<. > ==================================== > Our Founding Fathers were mostly believers in _Natural Rights_. In other > words, it wasn't necessary to state the Free Speech was a right. It just > was. The First Amendment prohibition against legislating limitations on > Free Speech was viewed as a safeguard in an age where governments > regularly infringed upon peoples _Natural Rights_. In other words, Free > Speech is not an American "right", but one with which all people are > endowed by their creator [or nature, if you prefer]. Unlike most 20th > century Constitutions or Bills of rights, the US Bill of Rights list > "rights of abstinence". The government must *abstain* from from > infringing on such rights. The first five words of the Bill of Rights are > most informative here. 20th Century documents seem to list *rights of > affirmation*, i.e., what governments MUST provide people with. To the > Framers, Free Speech was absolutely fundamental. It was not merely a > question of "well we won't bother to prosecute anyuone for exercising it." > Mike > > > -- > "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are > better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making > use of one's contributions to computer science." > -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 > > _______________________________________________ > free-sklyarov mailing list > free-sklyarov@zork.net > http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:24 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Present for the defense: Joe Burton - lead counsel Steve Sutro - assoc. counsel Marina Serebidnaya (sp ?) - immigration counsel approx 40 - 50 supporters and assorted press in the courtroom another 30 - 40 protestors on the street out front Dima is in the house-gave him a thumbs up. wearing santa clara co jail outfit. Somber and respectful. compliant is sealed hon infante read charges and miranda rights da calls him flight risk- w bail, weekley check in and custodial care. Judge asks about immigration staus burton says this is being worked on. Explains Dimas history and family status calls them impeccable. Has refs from professors and such in moscow. Elcomsoft will pay bail. Docs added to record. Court will issue release w/bail place to stay and travec limition to n. Cal. And weekly check in. Prelim hearing 8 23 01 judge Seaborg. Sergi Osokine is custodial person present in court. Cupertino resident of 8 years. Court accepts custodian. Counsel submits cash posting for bail. Dima signs. cuffs removed. gov wants to keep passport. Judge says ok if INS is cool. looks like he will need to process out of sc jail but should soon be out of prison. bail amount set at $50k Regards, Ed Hintz From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:40 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >Hello, > >This is an interesting development. Zulu, a virus writer from South >America, appears to have discovered that Adobe PDF files can be used to >carry computer viruses. Richard (and everyone): What this means is that virus scanners will now need to "reach inside" PDFs to scan encapsulated files. But what -- as I'm sure our Russian friend Dmitri would ask -- if the PDF is encrypted? Wouldn't the virus checker have to defeat the encryption to see the encapsulated file? And would it be an illegal "circumvention" mechanism if it did? --Brett From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:43 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: --1 August 2001 CNN reports a growing public cry for manufacturers of software to take more responsibility for correcting security flaws in products they sell. Shipping insecure software and waiting for it to hurt customers is not working. The video news segment also reports that the cyber insurance industry claims it has sold cyber insurance to 5% of American businesses. http://www.cnn.com/video/tech/2001/08/01/dg.micro.security.cnn.med.html [Editor's (Schultz) Note: How many news items of this nature are we going to have to read before we wake up to the fact that software vendors for the most part deliver poor quality software that leads to security problems? One of the unfortunate results of this ill-advised practice of the software industry is a plethora of security vulnerabilities. The only solution is appropriate legislation. (Schmidt) We still have humans developing software. I am sure ALL of the vendors (including the open source Linux developers) would love to reach perfection in coding. If you know of any coders who are perfect, I would be happy to look at hiring them. (Murray) I have to come down with Howard on this. It sounds as though Gene is suggesting that we legislate perfect software. Be careful what you ask for and the words that you use to ask for it. Having spent five years of my career in development, I am impressed that, given the quantity of code that we ship and the number of users and uses that it must satisfy, the quality is as good as it is. I am satisfied that we do a far better job of building code for the market place than we ever did building bespoke code for the enterprise. (Paller) A compromise, perhaps. To avoid reactive legislation, the vendors could take a leadership role by automating the updating and patching process and take responsibility for delivering the latest (completely patched) version to each new customer. The Linux vendors will probably be first because it will demonstrate the security advantage of their software over Microsoft, but one can only hope Microsoft will see the opportunity to better serve its client base, as well. Microsoft managers appeared surprised when I told them last week that many users would gladly pay 20 to 30% of the price of the software each year if Microsoft would take responsibility for patching the code as AOL does for its 20 million users. IBM's updating service is one of the key reasons that large companies feel safe in buying from IBM. If you work for a medium to large company or government agency and use Microsoft products on a large number of computers, please send an email to sansro@sans.org (subject: MS patches) telling us what percentage of the product price you would be willing to pay Microsoft, each year, for active updates of security and hot fixes.] /Vladimir vkatalov@elcomsoft.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:45 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: which closes at 9pm. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:46 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Convention Center stop. Trains run approximately every 10 minutes. The convention center is on the south side of the street; walk 1/2 block east on W. San Carlos St. to the snake. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:46 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: light rail line at the Tamien station. VTA light rail schedules: http://www.vta.org/schedules/SC_901.html Driving: Downtown San Jose is accessible from US 101, Interstate 280, and California 87. http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=S+Market+St+and+W+San+Carlos+St &csz=San+Jose%2C+CA Parking: There is a pay parking lot on the northeast corner of the intersection of Market and San Carlos. An inexpensive parking garage is available at the San Jose Convention Center, across San Carlos. The entrance is from Almaden Blvd., one block west. WHAT TO BRING Please bring a favorite book, a candle, and a lighter. FLYERS An updated "Free Dmitry" flyer with information on the next major local event, to be held on Thursday, August 30, will be available from http://www.tabinda.com/freedmitry/ on Sunday, August 12th. LOCAL EVENT CONTACT Don Marti 650-962-9601 or 650-743-8035 (cell) -- Don Marti What do we want? Free Dmitry! When do we want it? Now! http://zgp.org/~dmarti Free Dmitry: http://eff.org/ dmarti@zgp.org Free the web, burn all GIFs: http://burnallgifs.org/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:06:56 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Q: Are eBooks popular? A: No. According to surveys, three-quarters of the public wouldn't buy a book in any electronic form whatsoever. Q: So the failure of eBooks is due to market forces? A: It's due to criminal theft of intellectual property! Q: But you just said nobody wants to buy eBooks. A: Exactly. Refusing to give us money is theft. Q: Isn't it rather silly to go to such lengths to protect something nobody wants? A: Not at all. If we can establish the principle that corporate profits supercede civil rights, the profit potential is astonishing. Q: But if you criminalize so much doesn't that make everybody a criminal? A: Yes! That's the point. If essentially everybody is a criminal, then anybody who upsets us can be arrested, charged, and punished on a whim. Q: That sounds rather Soviet. A: Where do you think we learned it? Q: Doesn't that make you communist or something? A: Absolutely not! We're making oppression profitable! Q: Won't people just read books and you'll go broke? A: Not after we own all the publishing companies, all the copyrights, and all the books. Q: But then you'll have to ban reading books or something. Close libraries and such. A: We're working on it. Q: Oh so that's why you called them "Ruby Ridge" types? Start the propoganda campaign early? A: We don't like where this is going. You're under arrest. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:10 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: -- Brooklyn Linux Solutions http://www.mrbrklyn.com http://www.brooklynonline.com 1-718-382-5752 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:22 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: out from the trustee account. On the other hand money that are not signed can be taken back by preorderer at any moment. the band goes into the studio paying ITS OWN money and doing all the work. After the album starts shipping money start flowing from the trustee account to the band. If someone of preorderers (who's money were signed) does not agree to transfer money from the trustee account to the band he must prove the demands he assigned to his preorder are not fulfilled. If he fails to prove his money are given to the band if he proves - he takes the money back. The proof MUST BE BASED ON WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN HIS PREORDER. - if Z < X, the band can decide to WAIT FOR SOME MORE or it can announce it abandons the plan so that preorderers are encouraged to remove their money from the trustee account or to reformulate their demands and thus REBUILD the trustee account so it may become more attractive to the band P.S. I have found at least four people interested in discussing this issue me debug@centras.lt Tom tom@lemuria.org Bob bsmart@blorch.org Jeme jeme@brelin.net Is it enough to set up a mailing list ? -- Best regards, DeBug mailto:debug@centras.lt From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Forecasts of an E-Book Era Were, It Seems, Premature http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/28/technology/ebusiness/28EBOO.html .... One problem is that technical snags have prevented millions of users of hand-held personal computers operating Microsoft software from being able to read most publishers' electronic books. Book publishers are counting on the portable computer as a more appealing way to read than the screen of a desktop PC. But after watching the music industry's piracy problems, book publishers insisted that Microsoft add to its software for reading electronic books much stronger safeguards against unauthorized copying than today's hand-held personal computers can accommodate. As a result, hand-held computers using this software cannot display most publishers' books. (Devices using the Palm software can, making them the most popular way to read electronic books, despite eye-strain from their diminutive screens.) "I feel that was one of our greatest shortcomings," Mr. Brass said. He promised that the next generation of hand-held computers using a Microsoft operating system would be able to run the improved software. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:35 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: bu-wcs2-kelly.nipr.mil - - [22/Aug/2001:03:46:18 -0500] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 404 204 bu-wcs2-kelly.nipr.mil - - [22/Aug/2001:03:46:18 -0500] "GET /free-sklyarov/chicago-protest-information.txt HTTP/1.0" 200 8830 They also spidered my photographs from the protests. I just hope they pick the nice ones for my file. pedro From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:39 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > (2) As used in this subsection - > (A) to ''circumvent protection afforded by a technological > measure'' means avoiding, bypassing, removing, deactivating, or > otherwise impairing a technological measure; and > (B) a technological measure ''effectively protects a right of a > copyright owner under this title'' if the measure, in the > ordinary course of its operation, prevents, restricts, or > otherwise limits the exercise of a right of a copyright owner > under this title. (B) probably said in some incarnation: a technological measure ''effectively protects a right of a copyright owner under this title'' if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, prevents, restricts, or otherwise discourages infringement of that copyright. But what it says now, because some copyright lawyer tried to broaden the meaning, is that the measure somehow has to limit the copyright owner. whoops!!! -will- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:42 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship Government agencies hope to finance a network designed to thwart attempts by the Chinese government to censor the Web for users in China. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/30VOIC.html?todaysheadlines -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." --Tom Waits From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:46 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: which is a review of _The Zapatista "Social Netwar" in Mexico_, a US Army-funded RAND study: http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR994/ The Free Sklyarov protests are a good example of decentralized protest organized across the country, even the world, using the Internet. As far as I know, we have not made any connections to other movements. I would imagine that one thing the DoD could be doing is trying to identify the individuals involved in our protests and see whether these individuals are involved in other protests or activist groups. NB: the study was completed in 1998, so it doesn't consider the more visible, recent events of Seattle, Quebec, Genoa, etc. You gotta feel sorry for the DoD. They invent this Internet thing, and then people turn it around and use it to organize against the ruling interests, threatening their precious "stability". Martin PS. DoD: To make your lives a little easier, I was at a couple of protests in SF against the police brutality in Genoa, and I'm thinking of working with Food Not Bombs cause they're so damn cool. :-) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:48 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Dimitri out of jail and prevent this travesty from happening again is for that law to be torn up, scredded, de-inked, and burned to ash. Along the way you might want to do something about that dubious "contributory infringement" insanity, well First things first. Those of us with IT backgrounds have to stop thinking like programmers, there is no work around, no technical solution. L. Lessig is right, the only way we are gonna beat the lawyers that he and Stanford are pumping out every year is to start playing the game ourselves. Lets take some pages out of the books of some of the more powerful lobbies like the NRA. They have managed to make amazing concessions over the years to gun control despite the fact they endorse products that by in large have very few uses but to kill people. Obviously some of their methods are pretty effective. We definitely got the brains, and If you believe the statistics, we have the money . Perhaps we should stop buying Lego Mindstorms, BMW's and stupidly fast computers and start pumping some of that money into organizations like the EFF. We can continue to make our fight on the ground we are powerful on, technology, but we need to take a few pages from our opponents book as well. We need to become powerful if we are going to beat this, and not just in Cyberspace, in Meat space as well. BP1 --Hushpart_boundary_fWsoVcbBqSygqEozEXURdHQfMmWawRuB-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:56 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Lending, printing, copying, giving, and text-to-speech are permissions enabled by the publisher. No, they are not. They are fair use rights that should not be controlled by the publisher. If I buy a book I should be able to lend or sell it to anyone I wish to, with or without the permission of the publisher. The ElcomSoft software product violates the permissions set by the publisher to protect the copyrighted works of artists, authors, and publishers, making the copyrighted content available for unlimited duplication and distribution. This is the crux of the whole dumb situation. The software breaks the 'permissions' set by the publisher. Doing this does make it easier to copy, but also allows you to read the book if you are blind, or lend the book to someone, things that are perfectly lawful with or without the 'permission' of the publisher. This shows that the 'Digital Rights Management' are really 'Digital Use Management', designed primarily to control how people use the things they have bought, not to stop copying. Q: Why did Adobe drop its complaint in this case? A: It didn't. The criminal complaint in this case is the U.S. government's,.... Adobe continues to support the DMCA and the enforcement of copyright protection of digital content. And that's why we should continue to pressure Adobe to actually pay for Dmitry's defence and to end support for the DMCA Dan Ackroyd From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:07:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/04/aliens.html From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:08:40 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: but in this case _non white_ people should get compensation and i think the best compensation would be to allow them to decide who can and who cannot read the book. Most likely they would allow to read it for all. So in fact *_white_ only contract* is nonsence. -- Best regards, DeBug mailto:debug@centras.lt -- What I wrote above is hereby dedicated to the public domain and may be freely used, in whole or in part, with or without attribution. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:03 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > This Senator could use some education. Actually, the Senator's "legislative correspondent" could use some education. I was an LC for a Senator once upon a time -- if you want the Senator to pay attention, get 100 letters delivered on this topic. Then it might get graduated up to the "legislative assistant", who might mention it to the Senator in the weekly "mail roundup". :-) Fred On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Henry Schwan wrote: > This Senator is confused and needs some education. And that last sentence > might as well say: If this measure is brought before the Senate, please > know that I will keep your views in mind as I vote to strip away the rest > of your rights. > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, D.C. Wornock wrote: > > > I received the following letter from my senator. > > > > Dear Mr. Wornock: Thank you for sharing your concerns about the > > conviction of Dmitry Sklyarov and copyright protection laws. I am glad > > that you contacted me. > > > > On July 15,2001, Dmitry Sklyarov was arrested by the Federal Bureau of > > Investigation for violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. > > Apparently, he developed and presented a computer program at a Las > > Vegas convention that exposed flaws in the Adobe eBook Reader > > copyright control system. The computer code written by Mr. Sklyarov > > was legal in Russia, but authorities contend that his software removes > > important security features that could lead to copyright infringement. > > I understand your frustration with Mr. Sklyarov's arrest; however the > > matter of his guilt is for a court to decide. Please know that I will > > monitor this situation, so that the enforcement of our nation's laws > > do not violate personal freedoms enjoyed by our citizens. > > > > Finally, regarding your opposition to copyright protection > > legislation, United States Senator Ernest Hollings (SC) is currently > > developing a bill that would protect intellectual property from > > pirating on the Internet. If this measure is brought before the > > Senate, please know that I will keep your views in mind. > > > > Tim Hutchinson United States Senator > > > > > > -- Regards, Henry Schwan Paralegal Electronic Frontier Foundation (415)436-9333 x114 (415)436-9993 (fax) owlswan@eff.org "I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison -- Founding Father, US President From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:07 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/171331.html A programmer claiming to be "mad as hell" about the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) has apparently cracked a recent version of Microsoft Corp.'s [NASDAQ:MSFT] digital rights management technology. In addition, the anonymous cracker has released software that apparently can remove technological locks on some audio files, while issuing a manifesto decrying what is described as the "erosion of readers'/listeners' rights" at the hands of media companies and lawmakers. Adapting a moniker and a rallying cry from the character of Howard Beale in the 1976 movie "Network," someone using the name "Beale Screamer" released a program called "FreeMe" - along with its source code. The program appears capable of removing content protections from Windows Media Audio (.wma) files. ... More info can also be found here: http://cryptome.org/ms-drm.htm Also searching for "Beale Screamer" at Google Groups (http://groups.google.com/) shows 7 messages from the author about FreeMe. Richard From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:25 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1014-201-8006311-0.html Q: In your book you outline 10 principles for writing secure software. The fourth principle has to do with so-called "security by obscurity," which is how many people in the security community characterize the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act). A: If you think about the DMCA, there are the organizations like the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) that are producing content-protection mechanisms that do not work. And their solution, instead of building ones that do work, is to pass a law forbidding people from telling anyone why they don't work. It's a great example of "The Emperor's New Clothes," and what we have done is outlaw the little boy from saying that the emperor has no clothes. Q: What's open source's role in the security-by-obscurity debate? A: Open-source software is neither more nor less secure than closed-source software. And the whole issue of whether open source is more secure is a red herring. We have a chapter in the book about it. Security by obscurity doesn't work. But just because you have your source code sitting around in public doesn't mean someone's going to do a free security review on it, either, which is what the open-source guys think. That's wrong. Q: People think that because you can look under its hood, open-source software is more vulnerable to attack. A: Incorrect. If I have executable code, I can decompile it, I can disassemble it, I can poke it and prod it and steal all its little secrets, just as if I had the source code. I don't need the source code. But get this: The DMCA expressly forbids me from poking and prodding and recompiling that. That's ridiculous. The DMCA should be repealed. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: onto 2nd. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: stop; walk two blocks north on 2nd. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: or transfer to the N train and see above. By car: Baseball season is out so there should be plenty of parking spaces to choose from. Please join us at 7:00 for dinner; program begins at 8:00. Vegetarian foods available. -- Don Marti What do we want? Free Dmitry! When do we want it? Now! http://zgp.org/~dmarti dmarti@zgp.org Free the web, burn all GIFs. KG6INA http://burnallgifs.org/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:43 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 29.-(1) Fair dealing with a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work for the purposes of research or private study does not infringe any copyright in the work or, in the case of a published edition, in the typographical arrangement. (3) Copying by a person other than the researcher or student himself is not fair dealing if- (b) the person doing the copying knows or has reason to believe that it will result in copies of substantially the same material being provided to more than one person at substantially the same time and for substantially the same purpose. Which I still interpret as: if I want to make MP3 copies of music from my CDs, so long as I don't let anybody else copy the Mp3s then I'm not infringing copyright. cheers dan > That doesn't settle the question of what the entitlements > *ought* to be. > > But even if the rightholder is currently entitled to say "no you can't > copy that CD to your computer and play it back as an MP3" (as > is the case > in the UK), that does not mean the rightholder deserves to be > compensated > financially for such use. > > The question I *really* want the answer to is: has the market > not already > factored unauthorised copying into the price you're selling the CD at? > > > We're not saying that you should steal from the Artist > - only that you > > should be able to listen to music you've lawfully paid for > the way you > > want to listen to it" > > "The way you want to listen to it" is going to become an ever more > important issue; the user wants complete flexibility as to > what playback > device, format, time, location, etc, he/she uses. The > rightholder wants to > charge for every playback. > > This issue is even celebrated in popular culture; in "Men in > Black", Tommy > Lee Jones' character observes he's going to have to buy the > Beatles' White > Album *again* when it comes out in some new format based on > advanced alien > technology. > > Mk > > > _______________________________________________ > free-sklyarov mailing list > free-sklyarov@zork.net > http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 22:00:42 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 22:09:51 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: into the notepad so that you will add your name to the list. Save your new notepad file as a text File, if you want to do your posting in different settings, you will always have this file to go back to. Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various new groups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions). 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Dmitry helped create the Advanced eBook Processor (AEBPR) software for his Russian employer Elcomsoft. According to the company's website, the software permits eBook owners to translate from Adobe's secure eBook format into the more common Portable Document Format (PDF). The software only works on legitimately purchased eBooks. It has been used by blind people to read otherwise-inaccessible PDF user's manuals, and by people who want to move an eBook from one computer to another (just like anyone can move a music CD from the home player to a portable or car). Dmitry was arrested July 17, 2001 in Las Vegas, NV, at the behest of Adobe Systems, according to the DOJ complaint, and charged with distributing a product designed to circumvent copyright protection measures (the AEBPR). He was eventually released on $50,000 bail and restricted to California. In December 2001, was permitted to return home to Russia with his family. Charges have not been dropped, and he remains subject to prosecution in the US. Although Dmitry is home now, the case against Elcomsoft is continuing (to the detriment of the company), Dmitry's actions in Russia are controlled by a US court, and DMCA is still the law (to the detriment of everyone). This site will carry updates as they come...
Michael Smith reminded me of this. oo--JS.