Octal, did you know apple is selling a cellular phone? fo0bar: No, I was not aware So, how's the 3G on that thing? I can't wait to use that to use the internet on my bluetooth macbook whereever I go! Octal: I've heard it's great, but I don't bother. I just leave my macbook at home and use my stereo bluetooth headset to listen to my music on the iPhone itself! Wow! You mean I can just download music straight to the phone using iTunes? I sure hope the unlocked iphones on ebay aren't too expensive. they do tend to jack up the price on ebay, what with the removable SD cards they bundle into the package and extra batteries Octal: It's got a Real OS X Installation on there, so you ought to be able to download stuff and compile it yourself, if you want to! fo0bar: does it have a built-in GPS or do I have to use a bluetooth GPS module? it's built-in. I wrote a program using the OSX SDK to send my location to my website every few minutes, where it is fed into google maps wow, now I can stalk fo0bar from the comfort of my own computer creche thanks to the magic of Apple's new iPhone!