> The more you get out of what you do, the more human beings will be happy, and find that experience fun. So if you have a two-year-old child standing near a light switch, they will turn it on and off, on and off, on and off, until told to stop. [Itagaki gets up and demonstrates.] with an unwilling female employee, presumably I don't think he attempted to produce a two-year-old child on the spot. That would have made for an uncomfortably long pause in the interview.