From stephane at zork.net Fri Dec 1 01:31:25 2000 From: stephane at zork.net (stephane) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] crazy japanese robots of the FUTURE! Message-ID: <20001201013125.A16952@zork.net> http://www.robonagi.com From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 07:51:08 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001201075108.M2306@zork.net> You ought to meet our old friend Jimmy Jazz. He was twice the jazz you'll ever be. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- jazze@mail.fairfield.edu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 1 09:19:15 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] mmm mmm good In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0011302353190.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu>; from elharaty@utdallas.edu on Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 11:53:49PM -0600 References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0011302326460.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0011302353190.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20001201091915.O2306@zork.net> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > Before i get flamed I would like to note that: > I retract this post. Unfortunately, the regional Crackmonkey representatives do not have the necessary authority to notorize your retraction. You'll have to take it up with the Duma. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 1 09:20:53 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] crazy japanese robots of the FUTURE! In-Reply-To: <20001201013125.A16952@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 01:31:25AM -0800 References: <20001201013125.A16952@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201092052.P2306@zork.net> begin stephane quotation: > http://www.robonagi.com "This page contains information of a type (application/x-shockwave-flash) that can only be viewed with the appropriate proprietary Plug-in. Click OK to sign away your rights." -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 09:44:33 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] toast Message-ID: <20001201094433.T2306@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from grigsby@netgate.net ----- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 02:21:14 -0800 To: bekut@world.std.com >Hamilton Beach IntelliToast > This two slice toaster (model 22495) uses microchip > technology to give more consistent results. It features a > wide slot design, automatic safety shutoff, slide out > crumb tray and "cool touch" exterior. For me, the best > feature is "Toast Boost", which raises hard to reach > slices higher. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From 0 at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 10:44:47 2000 From: 0 at pigdog.org (0) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:51:08 -0800" References: <20001201075108.M2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <87hf4ovv4w.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: NM> You ought to meet our old friend Jimmy Jazz. He was NM> twice the jazz you'll ever be. Hey, whatever happened to that guy, anyways? Bernard made some implication a while back that it was actually -me-, which I'm pretty sure it wasn't. But not 100%. ~0 -- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | 0@pigdog.org | http://pigdog.org/ | freenet:KSK@/mailbox/pigdog journal/0 | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | "He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself | + without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, + | receives light without darkening me." -- Thomas Jefferson | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 11:05:00 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Report: 98 Percent Of U.S. Commuters Favor Public Transportation For Others Message-ID: <20001201110500.X2306@zork.net> http://theonion.com/onion3643/commuters_favor_public.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 1 11:08:37 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Report: 98 Percent Of U.S. Commuters Favor Public Transportation For Others In-Reply-To: <20001201110500.X2306@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:05:00AM -0800 References: <20001201110500.X2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201110837.B15825@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:05:00AM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > http://theonion.com/onion3643/commuters_favor_public.html And what percentage of PC users favor Network Computers for others? -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 11:15:56 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [chacha@tmbg.org: [Dasbanter] like winning the LOTTERY!] Message-ID: <20001201111556.Y2306@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from "Mr. Minderbinder" <chacha@tmbg.org> ----- http://www.wvec.com/news/local/mcchicken_head.htm well, at least we know that, despite what they taste, look, and feel like, McNuggets *ARE* made out of chickens! honestly, aside from all the health issues, the fact that this brave little head somehow survived the rigorous "slice-and-mash" process that most McNugget meat goes through. this head's a hero! this head's an inspiration. i'd frame the head, not sue! well, i might sue, also, but only for rights to keep the head in my living room. under lights. with music playing. chicken music. your friendly neighborhood spider guy, --Tedd _______________________________________________ dasbanter mailing list dasbanter@dasbistro.com http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 1 11:17:18 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Report: 98 Percent Of U.S. Commuters Favor Public Transportation For Others In-Reply-To: <20001201110837.B15825@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:08:37AM -0800 References: <20001201110500.X2306@zork.net> <20001201110837.B15825@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001201191718.A6576@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:08:37AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > And what percentage of PC users favor Network Computers for others? I favor Windows servers for all our competitors. -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 1 11:38:18 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [chacha@tmbg.org: [Dasbanter] like winning the LOTTERY!] In-Reply-To: <20001201111556.Y2306@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:15:56AM -0800 References: <20001201111556.Y2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201113818.M20778@linuxmafia.com> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > ----- Forwarded message from "Mr. Minderbinder" <chacha@tmbg.org> ----- > honestly, aside from all the health issues, the fact that this brave > little head somehow survived the rigorous "slice-and-mash" process that > most McNugget meat goes through. this head's a hero! this head's an > inspiration. ndeed. http://www.chickenhead.com/ Chickenheads unite! (But, as usually, Mr. Bad Knows: http://www.pigdog.org/auto/net_flotsam/link/824.html ) -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From leklund at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 1 11:23:06 2000 From: leklund at flynn.zork.net (Lukas Eklund) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [chacha@tmbg.org: [Dasbanter] like winning the LOTTERY!] In-Reply-To: <20001201111556.Y2306@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:15:56AM -0800 References: <20001201111556.Y2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201132306.A6849@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Nick Moffitt: > honestly, aside from all the health issues, the fact that this brave > little head somehow survived the rigorous "slice-and-mash" process that > most McNugget meat goes through. this head's a hero! this head's an > inspiration. i'd frame the head, not sue! the head would be hero if it was a mcNugget, which it wasn't. It was found in a box of mcdonalds chicken _wings_. Now that I've read this story about six times can we forget it already. -- lukas | "The contents of this dumpster are private. If you look eklund | inside you'll be violating dumpster-lawyer confidentiality." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 12:30:09 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] We're so lame. Message-ID: <20001201123008.B2306@zork.net> For record, I've been using Qui'Nine Gin as my Jedi name, and Pedro has been using either Wobegon Kenobi or OB/Gyn Kenobi. <@Shazdeh> Quinine_Gin, I used the line about newsletters <@Shazdeh> around Joel. (@Quinine_Gin) hahahaha <@Shazdeh> You know th ene. (@Quinine_Gin) it's an emadism! <@Shazdeh> It's from the Simpsons. (@Quinine_Gin) damn <@Shazdeh> I know. <@Shazdeh> Homer said it. (@Quinine_Gin) curse you, magic beans! <@Shazdeh> I was disappointed. (@Quinine_Gin) I'm crushed <@Shazdeh> emad is busted. <@Shazdeh> On the plus side, though, i found kitten! <@MisterBad> Finding kitten is always so satisfying. (@Quinine_Gin) I agree <@MisterBad> homer? <Dumont> Ah ha ha, it's true, it's true! We're so lame! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From julesa at pcf.com Fri Dec 1 12:36:44 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> Why have passwords at all if you're going to mail them out to people in cleartext on a monthly basis? mailman-owner@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your > lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships. It includes your > subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a > list. > > You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery > or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > > In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such > changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of > the list (for example, snort-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net) > containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email > message will be sent to you with instructions. > > If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to > mailman-owner@lists.sourceforge.net. Thanks! > > Passwords for julesa@pcf.com: > > List Password // URL > ---- -------- > snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net (manually deleted) > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/options/snort-users/julesa@pcf.com -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 1 12:42:12 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:36:44PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001201124212.C2306@zork.net> begin Jules Agee quotation: > Why have passwords at all if you're going to mail them out to people in > cleartext on a monthly basis? DO NOT QUESTION THE WISDOM OF THE MAILMAN. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 1 12:44:23 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: Jules Agee's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:36:44 -0800" References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> Message-ID: <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Agee <julesa@pcf.com> writes: Jules> Why have passwords at all if you're going to mail them out Jules> to people in cleartext on a monthly basis? Yeah, I'm sure the CIA is REALLY INTERESTED in your MailMan passwords. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 1 12:54:24 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:36:44PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001201125424.B27042@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:36:44PM -0800, Jules Agee wrote: > > List Password // URL > > ---- -------- > > snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net (manually deleted) > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/options/snort-users/julesa@pcf.com "(manually deleted)" is a GREAT password! It contains letters, a space, and even special characters. I'm going to make it my root password on EVERYTHING now! -- Don Marti dmarti@linuxjournal.com Technical Editor, Linux Journal 650-962-9601 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 1 13:38:49 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:36:44PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001201213849.B6576@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:36:44PM -0800, Jules Agee wrote: > Why have passwords at all if you're going to mail them out to people in > cleartext on a monthly basis? From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 1 13:41:48 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <87hf4ovv4w.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from 0@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 10:44:47AM -0800 References: <20001201075108.M2306@zork.net> <87hf4ovv4w.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001201134147.A31587@zork.net> 01Dec2000 10:44AM (-0800) From [0@pigdog.org] 0 [ "little o" ] > >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: > > NM> You ought to meet our old friend Jimmy Jazz. He was > NM> twice the jazz you'll ever be. > > Hey, whatever happened to that guy, anyways? I understand he eloped with The Lumberjack DJ and they're now having a gay ol' time being shithouse crazy. > Bernard made some implication a while back that it was actually -me-, > which I'm pretty sure it wasn't. But not 100%. Naw. It was Ben Franklin. Hmmm... Whose gonna get benfranklin@pigdog.org ? Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 13:45:06 2000 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:41:48 -0800" References: <20001201075108.M2306@zork.net> <87hf4ovv4w.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001201134147.A31587@zork.net> Message-ID: <87vgt3vmsd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> I understand he eloped with The Lumberjack DJ and they're now B> having a gay ol' time being shithouse crazy. Yeah, that's entirely possible, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't actually that person. Maybe I was though. This is getting ridiculous. ~LDJ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ "He who receives an idea from me, recieves instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me." -- Thomas Jefferson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From joey at kitenet.net Fri Dec 1 13:53:56 2000 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:36:44PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> Anyone want to set up a mailman-monthy-gripes mailing list? (Using mailman of course, with password mailing ON.) -- see shy jo From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 1 14:05:23 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: Joey Hess's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:53:56 -0800" References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <87sno7yezg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Joey" == Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> writes: Joey> Anyone want to set up a mailman-monthy-gripes mailing list? Joey> (Using mailman of course, with password mailing ON.) Don't forget to point Reply-To back to the list. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 14:37:50 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url Message-ID: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from sween@bearfountain.com ----- http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~sssbownj/jnwobsss~/ku.ca.gdr.www//:ptth/ oday! -sween ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us Fri Dec 1 14:36:03 2000 From: evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us (Evan Prodromou) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Need Your Help, Crackmonkeyans Message-ID: <87n1efvkfg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Howdy, folks. So, I've made my first Debian package based on Freenet. It's available here: http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/freenet_0.3.5.20001130-1_all.deb The original source that I used (based on a CVS snapshot) as well as all the other Debian package stuff can be found here: http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/ I'd love to get some feedback. ~ESP P.S. Confidential to Orion: thanks for the good help -- it finally works on my machine. -- Evan Prodromou evan@prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 15:21:46 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] squeeeeal like a hard drive Message-ID: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de ----- http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~hamster/squeal.php ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From smb23 at csufresno.edu Fri Dec 1 15:24:21 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Forget the pegeon Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012011522190.25306-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Vietnam has one uped SF's pegeon barbeque. Of course it seems canceled this year. "Heavy Floods Deny Farmers Rat Barbecue" http://news.excite.com/news/r/001128/08/odd-rats-dc Steve -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From julesa at pcf.com Fri Dec 1 15:30:58 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> <87sno7yezg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <3A2834B2.28F96F48@pcf.com> Paul J Collins wrote: > > >>>>> "Joey" == Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> writes: > > Joey> Anyone want to set up a mailman-monthy-gripes mailing list? > Joey> (Using mailman of course, with password mailing ON.) > > Don't forget to point Reply-To back to the list. What fun - where do I sign up? -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From julesa at pcf.com Fri Dec 1 15:39:36 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> Paul J Collins wrote: > > >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Agee <julesa@pcf.com> writes: > > Jules> Why have passwords at all if you're going to mail them out > Jules> to people in cleartext on a monthly basis? > > Yeah, I'm sure the CIA is REALLY INTERESTED in your MailMan passwords. No, no, not the CIA, you fool. The ILLUMINATI. Besides, it's an annoying once-per-month piece of extra spam from each mailman list with this "feature" enabled. I'm actually more annoyed about the spam - the password itself is just a nearly-artistic touch of absurdity. -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 1 15:44:03 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:39:36PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001201154403.U20778@linuxmafia.com> begin Jules Agee quotation: > Besides, it's an annoying once-per-month piece of extra spam from each > mailman list with this "feature" enabled. So, be sure to tell a large numbers of non-listadmin strangers on multiple mailing lists all about how annoyed you are. They're just dying to hear from you. > Jules Agee > System Administrator Liar. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 1 15:50:17 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: Jules Agee's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:39:36 -0800" References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> Message-ID: <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Agee <julesa@pcf.com> writes: Jules> No, no, not the CIA, you fool. The ILLUMINATI. Yeah, that cyclops pyramid is hella scary. Jules> Besides, it's an annoying once-per-month piece of extra Jules> spam from each mailman list with this "feature" Jules> enabled. Since I was informed by the welcome message that I would be sent these reminders monthly, I consider those messages part of normal list traffic (if out-of-band) and as such not spam. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 1 15:51:10 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 11:50:17PM +0000 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > hella GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 15:54:24 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:51:10 -0800" References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <87pujbu28f.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: >> hella MM> GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST Hey, man, "hella" is good old-fashioned NorCal slang. I don't use it, but I respect it. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 1 15:55:28 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] squeeeeal like a hard drive In-Reply-To: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:21:46PM -0800 References: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201155527.A3809@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:21:46PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~hamster/squeal.php http://qed.newcastle.edu.au/dave/Daisy/ -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 1 15:57:28 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:51:10 -0800" References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <87g0k7y9sn.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: >> hella MM> GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST Hah, I forgot you share a city with people who talk like that. You poor bastard. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 1 15:58:35 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] squeeeeal like a hard drive In-Reply-To: <20001201155527.A3809@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:55:28PM -0800 References: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net> <20001201155527.A3809@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001201155835.K2306@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > http://qed.newcastle.edu.au/dave/Daisy/ Yeah, I remember that. LoadStar did something like that once. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 1 15:58:52 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <3A2834B2.28F96F48@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:30:58PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> <87sno7yezg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2834B2.28F96F48@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001201155852.B3809@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:30:58PM -0800, Jules Agee wrote: > Paul J Collins wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Joey" == Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net> writes: > > > > Joey> Anyone want to set up a mailman-monthy-gripes mailing list? > > Joey> (Using mailman of course, with password mailing ON.) > > > > Don't forget to point Reply-To back to the list. > > What fun - where do I sign up? You have to write your own vacation-like "We're not here right now but your mail is important to us" program, WITHOUT READING ANY RFCs OR OTHER DOCS ABOUT EMAIL HEADERS to be allowed on the list. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From smb23 at csufresno.edu Fri Dec 1 15:59:28 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] SF rent to high? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012011558070.25306-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Are you paying too much rent. Gte free room and board and still be able to keep your day job. http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2646445-45,00.html Steve -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 16:11:01 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palindromes, shmalindromes Message-ID: <20001201161101.L2306@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de ----- /* oldie, but goodie */ char rahc [ ] = "\n/" , redivider [ ] = "Able was I ere I saw elbA" , * deliver,reviled = 1+1 , niam ; main ( ) {/*\} \*/ int tni = 0x0 , rahctup,putchar ( ) ,LACEDx0 = 0xDECAL, rof ; for (;(int) (tni);) (int) (tni) = reviled ; deliver = redivider ; for ((int)(tni)++,++reviled;reviled* *deliver;deliver++,++(int)(tni)) rof = (int) -1- (tni) ;reviled--;--deliver; (tni) = (int) - 0xDECAL + LACEDx0 - rof ; for (reviled--,(int)--(tni);(int) (tni);(int)--(tni),--deliver) rahctup = putchar (reviled* *deliver) ; rahctup * putchar ((char) * (rahc)) ; /*\ {\*/} ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From katyc at ilm.com Fri Dec 1 16:14:01 2000 From: katyc at ilm.com (Katy Calbreath) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Important Fiscal Tool Message-ID: <200012020014.QAA09182@unagi.lucasdigital.com> www.wheresgeorge.com The most useless website I've seen all hour. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 1 16:16:52 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Important Fiscal Tool In-Reply-To: <200012020014.QAA09182@unagi.lucasdigital.com>; from katyc@ilm.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 04:14:01PM -0800 References: <200012020014.QAA09182@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Message-ID: <20001201161652.M2306@zork.net> begin Katy Calbreath quotation: > www.wheresgeorge.com > > The most useless website I've seen all hour. Not if you're into liar's poker! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From elharaty at utdallas.edu Fri Dec 1 16:23:11 2000 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: Seminar: Paper 1 (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012011815370.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> So I send an email contesting the records of some loser assistant dean/profs. Basically there was some white paper that we had to write. I submitted it in PDF and he replied a week later demanding .doc . So I do a bunch of black magic and get my paper into .doc. He then proceeds to lose it. It's the end of the semster and he claims i've never submitted it. I send him an email and now I'm in trouble. BEAUJOLAIS! Seem he doesn't like my .signature and felt that the Dean of student, the program head of Electrical engineering, and the Dean of engineering of my school should get involved. -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:51:22 -0600 From: Dr. E. Douglas Harris To: Emad El-Haraty <elharaty@utdallas.edu> Cc: Dean William P. Osborne Gerry Burnham Norris Rachavong Subject: Re: Seminar: Paper 1 Emad, thanks for the e-mail. I have located your white paper. In addition, I find your e-mail to be intimidating and offensive the way you have ended it. I'll assure you that professors take this type of message very seriously in today's violent environment. Dr. Harris Emad El-Haraty wrote: > Your records indicate that I have not submitted the first > white paper. I would like to contest this. > > Emad El-Haraty > If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From elharaty at utdallas.edu Fri Dec 1 16:24:33 2000 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: Seminar: Paper 1 (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012011823371.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> What follows is my response. -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:24:54 -0600 (CST) From: Emad El-Haraty <elharaty@utdallas.edu> To: Dr. E. Douglas Harris Cc: Dean William P. Osborne Gerry Burnham Norris Rachavong Subject: Re: Seminar: Paper 1 Many apologies. The ending is part of my .signature file and is added by default to all outgoing mail. It was not intended to be offensive nor intimidating. I had completely forgotten about it. Emad El-Haraty [Insert Politically Correct Statement here] On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Dr. E. Douglas Harris wrote: > Emad, thanks for the e-mail. I have located your white paper. > > In addition, I find your e-mail to be intimidating and offensive the way > you have ended it. I'll assure you that professors take this type of > message very seriously in today's violent environment. > > Dr. Harris > > Emad El-Haraty wrote: > > > Your records indicate that I have not submitted the first > > white paper. I would like to contest this. > > > > Emad El-Haraty > > If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. > > -- > *************************************************** > Dr. E. Douglas Harris, Associate Dean > Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and Computer Science > The University of Texas at Dallas > P.O. Box 830688, Mail Station EC32 > 2601 Floyd Road > Richardson, Texas 75083-0688 > (972)883-6546 Phone - Personal Voice Mail > (972)883-2563 Phone - Assistant Line - Ms. Sandy Burdine > (972)883-2813 Fax > edh@utdallas.edu e-mail > > > From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 1 16:27:40 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: Seminar: Paper 1 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012011815370.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu>; from elharaty@utdallas.edu on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 06:23:11PM -0600 References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012011815370.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20001201162739.V20778@linuxmafia.com> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > So I send an email contesting the records of some loser > assistant dean/profs. Basically there was some white paper > that we had to write. I submitted it in PDF and he replied a week > later demanding .doc . So I do a bunch of black magic and get > my paper into .doc. He then proceeds to lose it. It's the end of > the semster and he claims i've never submitted it. I send him > an email and now I'm in trouble. BEAUJOLAIS! > > Seem he doesn't like my .signature and felt that > the Dean of student, the program head of Electrical engineering, > and the Dean of engineering of my school should get involved. 1. You appear to need to upgrade to a better school. 2. See if either of them prefers _my_ .signature block. -- Cheers, "Teach a man to make fire, and he will be warm Rick Moen for a day. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm rick@linuxmafia.com for the rest of his life." -- John A. Hrastar From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 17:02:11 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: Seminar: Paper 1 (fwd) In-Reply-To: Rick Moen's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:27:40 -0800" References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012011815370.23822-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> <20001201162739.V20778@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <878zpztz3g.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes: RM> 2. See if either of them prefers _my_ .signature block. Or -mine-! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) "I have a restraining order against Emad El-Haraty ( ((**) due to repeated threats he has made against me and \ <vvv> and my family. I live every day in fear." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 1 17:20:05 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001201172005.Q2306@zork.net> Christ, I thought he'd NEVER leave. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- hotsun@yahoo.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From benb at iastate.edu Fri Dec 1 17:25:46 2000 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Need Your Help, Crackmonkeyans References: <87n1efvkfg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <3A2849E0.8AF9BA97@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3A284F99.145008F8@iastate.edu> Evan Prodromou wrote: > P.S. Confidential to Orion: thanks for the good help -- it finally > works on my machine. He unsubscribed from Crackmonkey, didn't he? Ben From benb at iastate.edu Fri Dec 1 17:26:28 2000 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url References: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> <3A2849AF.DE2EC2C3@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu> Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~sssbownj/jnwobsss~/ku.ca.gdr.www//:ptth/ Ironically, our lab final today in CprE 183X was to write a program that will take a word or number and tell you if it's a palindrome or not. I dislike college. Anyone have any job openings for a PFY? Ben From orion at tribble.dyndns.org Fri Dec 1 17:31:08 2000 From: orion at tribble.dyndns.org (Orion) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Need Your Help, Crackmonkeyans In-Reply-To: <3A284F99.145008F8@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 07:25:46PM -0600 References: <87n1efvkfg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <3A2849E0.8AF9BA97@iastate.edu> <3A284F99.145008F8@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001201203108.A5046@tribble.dyndns.org> Ben Brockert said: > Evan Prodromou wrote: > > P.S. Confidential to Orion: thanks for the good help -- it finally > > works on my machine. > > He unsubscribed from Crackmonkey, didn't he? > > Ben Let me check. -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org "so did you eat the dog or walk it? ;)" - iain From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 1 17:35:57 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url In-Reply-To: <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 07:26:28PM -0600 References: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> <3A2849AF.DE2EC2C3@iastate.edu> <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001202123557.A4364@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Ben Brockert"> > Ironically, our lab final today in CprE 183X was to write a program that > will take a word or number and tell you if it's a palindrome or not. Perhaps according to Alanis. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- - What inspired you to become a bus driver? - Linus Torvalds. From silverback at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 17:28:38 2000 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Need Your Help, Crackmonkeyans In-Reply-To: Ben Brockert's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2000 19:25:46 -0600" References: <87n1efvkfg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <3A2849E0.8AF9BA97@iastate.edu> <3A284F99.145008F8@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <87vgt3sjax.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <MisterBad> Orion, I guess you are off crackmonkey? <Orion> off? why? <Orion> I just don't read it <Orion> haven't unsubscrived or anything So there you have it. ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From bob at ruptured-duck.com Fri Dec 1 18:34:11 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] toast In-Reply-To: <20001201094433.T2306@zork.net> References: <20001201094433.T2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200012020234.eB22YGL02882@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:44:33 -0800, Nick Moffitt said: > > This two slice toaster (model 22495) uses microchip > > technology to give more consistent results. It features a > > wide slot design, automatic safety shutoff, slide out > > crumb tray and "cool touch" exterior. For me, the best > > feature is "Toast Boost", which raises hard to reach > > slices higher. And, it's supported in Xfree86 4.0. -- Bob Bernstein Sent via at Pronto 2.2.1 Esmond, R.I., USA Gnome/Perl/Gtk/MySQL From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 1 18:51:14 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Important Fiscal Tool In-Reply-To: <200012020014.QAA09182@unagi.lucasdigital.com>; from katyc@ilm.com on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 04:14:01PM -0800 References: <200012020014.QAA09182@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Message-ID: <20001201185114.A21534@zork.net> 01Dec2000 04:14PM (-0800) From [katyc@ilm.com] katyc [Katy Calbreath] > www.wheresgeorge.com > > The most useless website I've seen all hour. I was particularly stunned by the box that allows you to enter the serial number of your dollar bill and your postcode (so that you can theoretically follow it as it moves around the country) as it has the message; "You can enter bills without LOGGING IN or REGISTERING (totally free!), but you will need to have an account before entering any bills to be able to come back later and follow the bills you have entered." So, if you don't register you can have all the fun of filling out the little box for no reason whatsoever. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 1 18:57:46 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:51:10PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> 01Dec2000 03:51PM (-0800) From GOML-Monkey > begin Paul J Collins quotation: > > hella > > GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST Cool down. If you don't like the "spam" from Mailman you can always bounce it - maybe back to the list. Bernard ...and you *still* have yet to reach the level of annoyance of virus scanners set to reply to a mailing list (the gene array list had another round of that last week). What I want to see is for someone's vacation message to become virus contaminated and then to see it being detected by a virus scanner that is also contaminated. Who needs worms? -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 1 19:08:06 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] squeeeeal like a hard drive In-Reply-To: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 03:21:46PM -0800 References: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201190806.C21534@zork.net> 01Dec2000 03:21PM (-0800) From [nick@zork.net] nick [Nick Moffitt] > ----- Forwarded message from Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de ----- > > http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~hamster/squeal.php > > ----- End forwarded message ----- So, does this mean that crackmonkey will one day be nearly as cool as pigdog and one day pidog's reporters will nearly be as cool as those on Slashdot? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/11/30/1751221&mode=thread Nick, you have hereby been moved waaaaaaay down in my estimation; n) Pond slime n+1) Commander Taco n+2) Eugene n+3) Pigdog readership n+4) Nick I assume since senility is setting in that you'll now allow; 1) Posts from hotmail 2) HTML posting 3) Massive inclusion of replied-to posts 4) Huge .sigs 5) Binary attachments (especially GIFs) 6) Smileys 7) Craig and you'll delete mutt on zork and replace it with pine. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 1 19:40:03 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:57:46 -0800" References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> Message-ID: <873dg7xzho.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> What I want to see is for someone's vacation message to become B> virus contaminated and then to see it being detected by a virus B> scanner that is also contaminated. Who needs worms? Picture it: the loveletter virus. Infects all .VBS files, right? A network admin writes a handy script that cleans said virus from each machine upon login. The script is a VBS file. The ACLs are wide-open. Chaos ensues. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 1 20:02:21 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 06:57:46PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201220221.J10619@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Bernard: > Cool down. If you don't like the "spam" from Mailman you can > always bounce it - maybe back to the list. Yeah! And pump it through chef or dadadodo or Garvilk first! woo! scotch! woo! pedro From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 20:40:30 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 06:57:46PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201204030.N28746@zork.net> Bernard writes: > ...and you *still* have yet to reach the level of annoyance of > virus scanners set to reply to a mailing list (the gene array > list had another round of that last week). What I want to see > is for someone's vacation message to become virus contaminated > and then to see it being detected by a virus scanner that is > also contaminated. Who needs worms? You know, there's a vaguely Yiddish expression: I need that like I need worms! -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From benb at iastate.edu Fri Dec 1 20:45:37 2000 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url References: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> <3A2849AF.DE2EC2C3@iastate.edu> <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu> <20001202123557.A4364@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <3A287E72.9A87F392@iastate.edu> Jeff Waugh wrote: > > <quote who="Ben Brockert"> > > > Ironically, our lab final today in CprE 183X was to write a program that > > will take a word or number and tell you if it's a palindrome or not. > > Perhaps according to Alanis. That's not a palindrome. Seriously, though, that was just a test of the Crackmonkey hive mind, to make sure it was still functioning. Nine minutes is a bit on the slow side, though. Ben From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 20:54:06 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Important Fiscal Tool In-Reply-To: <20001201185114.A21534@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 06:51:14PM -0800 References: <200012020014.QAA09182@unagi.lucasdigital.com> <20001201185114.A21534@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201205406.O28746@zork.net> Bernard writes: > 01Dec2000 04:14PM (-0800) From [katyc@ilm.com] katyc [Katy Calbreath] > > www.wheresgeorge.com > > > > The most useless website I've seen all hour. > > I was particularly stunned by the box that allows you to enter > the serial number of your dollar bill and your postcode > (so that you can theoretically follow it as it moves around the > country) All the convenience of cash, all the anonymity of credit cards! > as it has the message; > "You can enter bills without LOGGING IN or REGISTERING (totally free!), > but you will need to have an account before entering any bills > to be able to come back later and follow the bills you have entered." I wonder whether representations of "historical locations of particular pieces of currency" are copyrightable under _Feist v. Rural Telephone Service Company_, 499 U.S. 340 (1991). That's the case that prompted the incredibly clever characterization (maybe by Pamela Samuelson?) of database copyright bills as "the coming of the anti-Feist". -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 21:18:34 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 01:53:56PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20001201211834.P28746@zork.net> Joey Hess writes: > Anyone want to set up a mailman-monthy-gripes mailing list? (Using > mailman of course, with password mailing ON.) Actually, it reminds me to write to my friend Brita to remind her to say "rabbit rabbit" for good luck. I should set up a "remind-brita-to-say-rabbit-rabbit-for-good-luck" mailing list (using mailman) and subscribe all of Brita's friends to it. And some cron jobs. Nick, what have you done with my "L" command that it's started to Cc: people when I do list replies on crackmonkey? -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 21:20:05 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Need Your Help, Crackmonkeyans In-Reply-To: <3A284F99.145008F8@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 07:25:46PM -0600 References: <87n1efvkfg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <3A2849E0.8AF9BA97@iastate.edu> <3A284F99.145008F8@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001201212005.Q28746@zork.net> Ben Brockert writes: > Evan Prodromou wrote: > > P.S. Confidential to Orion: thanks for the good help -- it finally > > works on my machine. > > He unsubscribed from Crackmonkey, didn't he? That would make it _extra_ confidential! Even the intended recipient couldn't see it! Remember, it's only truly strong crypto if you forget the password. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 21:41:20 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url In-Reply-To: <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 07:26:28PM -0600 References: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> <3A2849AF.DE2EC2C3@iastate.edu> <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001201214120.R28746@zork.net> Ben Brockert writes: > Nick Moffitt wrote: > > http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~sssbownj/jnwobsss~/ku.ca.gdr.www//:ptth/ > > Ironically, our lab final today in CprE 183X was to write a program that > will take a word or number and tell you if it's a palindrome or not. def palindrome(s): l = list(str(s)) m, n = l[:], l.reverse() return l == m Gotta love those VHLLs. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 21:58:18 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url In-Reply-To: <20001201214120.R28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 09:41:20PM -0800 References: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> <3A2849AF.DE2EC2C3@iastate.edu> <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu> <20001201214120.R28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201215818.S28746@zork.net> Seth David Schoen writes: > Ben Brockert writes: > > > Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~sssbownj/jnwobsss~/ku.ca.gdr.www//:ptth/ > > > > Ironically, our lab final today in CprE 183X was to write a program that > > will take a word or number and tell you if it's a palindrome or not. > > def palindrome(s): > l = list(str(s)) > m, n = l[:], l.reverse() > return l == m > > Gotta love those VHLLs. And bounds-checking. def palindrome(s): i,s=0,str(s) try: while 1: i,i=1/(s[i]==s[-i-1]),i+1 except: return 2*i>len(s) -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 22:58:06 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] New Freenet .deb Message-ID: <87aeafs41t.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Hey, just in case you were going to install that Freenet .deb... try this one instead: http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/freenet_0.3.5.20001130-3_all.deb There were some classpath problems with that first one. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 1 23:05:41 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] palondromic url In-Reply-To: <20001201215818.S28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 09:58:18PM -0800 References: <20001201143750.F2306@zork.net> <3A2849AF.DE2EC2C3@iastate.edu> <3A284FC4.4D57B900@iastate.edu> <20001201214120.R28746@zork.net> <20001201215818.S28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001201230541.T28746@zork.net> Seth David Schoen writes: > def palindrome(s): > i,s=0,str(s) > try: > while 1: i,i=1/(s[i]==s[-i-1]),i+1 > except: return 2*i>len(s) Maybe even def palindrome(s): i,s=0,str(s) try: while 1: i=i+1/(s[i]==s[-i-1]) except: return 2*i>len(s) Now I'm sorry that I gave that hint above! -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From aaronl at vitelus.com Fri Dec 1 23:09:26 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] New Freenet .deb In-Reply-To: <87aeafs41t.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 10:58:06PM -0800 References: <87aeafs41t.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001201230926.A6479@vitelus.com> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 10:58:06PM -0800, Mr . Bad wrote: > http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/freenet_0.3.5.20001130-3_all.deb Does this work with (Kaffe (compiled with GMP) and/or Japhar)/GNU Classpath? From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 1 23:54:18 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] New Freenet .deb In-Reply-To: Aaron Lehmann's message of "Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:09:26 -0800" References: <87aeafs41t.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001201230926.A6479@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <8766l3s1g5.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "AL" == Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com> writes: >> http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/freenet_0.3.5.20001130-3_all.deb AL> Does this work with (Kaffe (compiled with GMP) Yes, but the current (woody) Debian package doesn't have GMP, so you have to build it yourself. AL> Japhar)/GNU Classpath? I haven't tried. I've used the IBM JRE and the Blackdown JRE -- both work fine, if non-free. I'd suggest that if someone wanted to see it work, they should install with the Blackdown JRE, see how it works "right", and then use one of the Free JREs. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From aaronl at vitelus.com Sat Dec 2 01:41:51 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fwd: [svlug] [Freenet-chat] Apt-get off Freenet (fwd) Message-ID: <20001202014151.A8934@vitelus.com> ----- Forwarded message from J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> ----- From: J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 00:27:58 -0800 To: lsec@Mail.Linux-Consulting.com, svlug@svlug.org Subject: [svlug] [Freenet-chat] Apt-get off Freenet (fwd) Neat: ------- Forwarded Message From: "Timm Murray" <admin@madtimes.com> To: <freenet-chat@lists.sourceforge.net> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:43:24 -0800 Subject: [Freenet-chat] Apt-get off Freenet I have posted a short document on how to use Freenet + FProxy to allow you to use the Debian package manager app "apt-get" or "dselect" to grab packages off Freenet. Its on the Freenet wiki at http://freenet.netunify.com/38. NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN TESTED. Its just theoretical at this point, as I haven't had time to actually test it. Once I do, I'll inform the list and update the page above. _______________________________________________ Freenet-chat mailing list Freenet-chat@lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/freenet-chat ------- End of Forwarded Message -- J C Lawrence claw@kanga.nu ---------(*) : http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=-- _______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug@lists.svlug.org http://lists.svlug.org/mailman/listinfo/svlug ----- End forwarded message ----- From joey at kitenet.net Sat Dec 2 04:01:38 2000 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) Message-ID: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> @ARGV=$0;$x=###+H} 99;while(<>)##,+Jt {$y=0;$a[####{_n#n $y++][$x]#=",)$i=i =$& while#_H";(s)r /./g;$x--#$ 8r*2p }map{$g.=#;YS=t8,; "\n".join#(ESxs39' '',@$_}@a#rOE b+/ ;eval $g# oJ"_u9y ######## f".$s3$' From dsaklad at gnu.org Sat Dec 2 14:36:34 2000 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Finger command for our City of Boston Public Library Departments Message-ID: <E142LGk-0000Kj-00@fencepost.gnu.org> Summary: How to get information for our BPL people and what curators want you to know with respect to the varied individual projects or with regard to their expertise amidst BPL collections. Keywords: cluster search finger Last week the command finger @bpl.org finger @mbln.bpl.org had been disabled by systems and network functionaries. It could be enabled again. Contact BPL network and systems' Patrick Cafferty or James Frazier http://www.bpl.org/WWW/news/jamesfrazier.html http://www.bpl.org/www/trusteeagenda112000.html#11. President's Report tel. 617.536.5400 pcafferty@bpl.org jfrazier@bpl.org How to get information for BPL people and what curators want you to know with respect to the varied individual projects or with regard to their expertise amidst BPL collections. http://vivisimo.com http://www.thrall.org/~proteus http://www.alltheweb.com http://www.deja.com/usenet Enter a BPL curator's name in quotes, for example "Frank Altieri" "Sally Beecher" reference "Roland Butterfield" gifts "Janice Chadbourne" fine arts "Catherine M Clancy" young adults "Scott Cornwall" stacks "Jeff Cramer" "P.A. Carr" "P.A. d'Arbeloff" "Katherine Dibble" "Mary Beth Dunhouse" special collections "June Eiselstein" "William Faucon" manuscripts "Ed Fenninger" sound archives "Gail Fithian" government documents "William Grealish" humanities "Paula Hayes" children "Sinclair Hitchings" prints "Dorothy Keller" interlibrary loan "Liam M. Kelly" "Ruth Kowal" "Leslie Loke" "Charles Longley" microtext "Fran Majusky" readers and information services "Jane Manthorne" "Ed Montana Jr." "Marilyn McLean" science "Mary Frances O'Brien" social sciences "Steve Olson" audiovisual "Diane Ota" music "Ed Peltier" audiovisual "Gunars Rutkovskis" "Henry Scannell" microtext "Joseph Sarro" buildings "Dolores Schueler" business "Stuart Walker" conservator conservation "Roberta Zonghi" rare books manuscripts ...or your favorite curatorial type person from BPL As always, there are the BPL alumni and the regulars who have their particular projects and expertise available from time to time, for example "William M. Bulger" "David Burnham" "James Carroll" "John J. Cullinane" "Arthur Curley" "V. Paul Deare" "Donna DePrisco" "John Doherty" "Ray Flynn" mayor "Berth Gaines" "Arthur W. Heintzelman" "Milton Lord" "William Marchione" "David McCullough" "Philip McNiff" "Thomas Menino" mayor "Joseph E. Mullaney" "Thomas H. O'Connor" "James Kibo Parry" "Don Saklad" "Angelo Scaccia" "Douglass Shand-Tucci" "Pamela Seigle" "Jay Sulzberger" "William O. Taylor" "Kevin White" mayor ...or your favorite BPL types oo-- dWs Guide to Problematical Library Use http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com/stories From bryanf at samurai.com Sat Dec 2 14:58:41 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <873dg7xzho.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:40:03AM +0000 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> <873dg7xzho.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001202175840.L29677@samurai.com> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:40:03AM +0000, Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> wrote: > Chaos ensues. s/Chaos/Wackiness/ Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From geoperry at iww.org Sat Dec 2 15:04:39 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] (no subject) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012021503490.5343-100000@iww.org> "Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess." - Gandalf From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 15:59:48 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <20001202175840.L29677@samurai.com>; from bryanf@samurai.com on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 05:58:41PM -0500 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> <873dg7xzho.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001202175840.L29677@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20001202155948.V2306@zork.net> begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:40:03AM +0000, Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> wrote: > > Chaos ensues. > > s/Chaos/Wackiness/ s/Wackingess/Madcap hilarity/ -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 16:01:14 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <20001201211834.P28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 09:18:34PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> <20001201211834.P28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202160114.W2306@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > Nick, what have you done with my "L" command that it's started to > Cc: people when I do list replies on crackmonkey? It only Cc:'s people who have a Mail-Followup-To header set to include them. Thus, it only Cc's people who have effectively requested a Cc. It's in the mutt documentation. I'm surprised I had to explain this to you. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 16:04:36 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] squeeeeal like a hard drive In-Reply-To: <20001201190806.C21534@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 07:08:06PM -0800 References: <20001201152146.G2306@zork.net> <20001201190806.C21534@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202160436.X2306@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > So, does this mean that crackmonkey will one day be nearly as cool > as pigdog and one day pidog's reporters will nearly be as cool as > those on Slashdot? Yeah, well if you posted some original shit, maybe this list wouldn't degenerate to a forwards dumping-ground. I'm truly astounded that I had to explain this to you. Also, I'm not impressed by your mastery of slashdot article references. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 16:09:44 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) In-Reply-To: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:01:38AM -0800 References: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net> begin Joey Hess quotation: > @ARGV=$0;$x=###+H} > 99;while(<>)##,+Jt > {$y=0;$a[####{_n#n > $y++][$x]#=",)$i=i > =$& while#_H";(s)r > /./g;$x--#$ 8r*2p > }map{$g.=#;YS=t8,; > "\n".join#(ESxs39' > '',@$_}@a#rOE b+/ > ;eval $g# oJ"_u9y > ######## f".$s3$' Hmmm. I get a bunch of mangled "JOEY HESS"'s interspersed into a long string of complete "JOEY HESS". Is this some kind of steganographic thingummy? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From aaronl at vitelus.com Sat Dec 2 16:12:18 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) In-Reply-To: <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:09:44PM -0800 References: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202161218.A20509@vitelus.com> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:09:44PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Hmmm. I get a bunch of mangled "JOEY HESS"'s interspersed > into a long string of complete "JOEY HESS". Is this some kind of > steganographic thingummy? No doubt part of the source to debconf. From orion at tribble.dyndns.org Sat Dec 2 16:16:55 2000 From: orion at tribble.dyndns.org (Orion) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list membershipsreminder In-Reply-To: <20001202155948.V2306@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:59:48PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> <87k89jya4m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001201155110.J2306@zork.net> <20001201185746.B21534@zork.net> <873dg7xzho.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001202175840.L29677@samurai.com> <20001202155948.V2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202191655.A7467@tribble.dyndns.org> Monkey Master said: > begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:40:03AM +0000, Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> wrote: > > > Chaos ensues. > > > > s/Chaos/Wackiness/ > > s/Wackingess/Madcap hilarity/ s/Madcap hilarity/Full-blown insanity/ -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org _____ _ | |___|_|___ ___ | | | _| | . | | |_____|_| |_|___|_|_| From stu at brainfood.com Sat Dec 2 15:29:12 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012021503490.5343-100000@iww.org>; from geoperry@iww.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:04:39PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012021503490.5343-100000@iww.org> Message-ID: <20001202182912.A3213@stu.ddts.net> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 03:04:39PM -0800, George J.P. Perry wrote: > "Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves > possess." - Gandalf Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they become soggy and hard to light. Do not throw cigarette butts in the urinal, for they are subtle and quick to anger. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From nick at zork.net Sat Dec 2 18:18:18 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. Message-ID: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> Wowee. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: AJ Edgar http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/ken/chesseg.html As of December 1, 2000, I will be leaving Bell Labs to pursue flight instructing full time. I do not know what will happen to this site after that. In particular, the chess endgames could disappear at any time. [...] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From stu at brainfood.com Sat Dec 2 18:25:32 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:18:18PM -0800 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:18:18PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Wowee. yes, another slashdot article. http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/02/1754247.shtml -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 18:26:56 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:25:32PM -0500 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > yes, another slashdot article. Look, I'm rilly rilly impressed that all you munchkins set a rock down on that there "reload slarshdot" button, but do you think we could just see a bit of net flotsam for what it is, rather than who's pointing to it? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From joey at kitenet.net Sat Dec 2 18:31:50 2000 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) In-Reply-To: <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:09:44PM -0800 References: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202183150.O10883@kitenet.net> Monkey Master wrote: > begin Joey Hess quotation: > > @ARGV=$0;$x=###+H} > > 99;while(<>)##,+Jt > > {$y=0;$a[####{_n#n > > $y++][$x]#=",)$i=i > > =$& while#_H";(s)r > > /./g;$x--#$ 8r*2p > > }map{$g.=#;YS=t8,; > > "\n".join#(ESxs39' > > '',@$_}@a#rOE b+/ > > ;eval $g# oJ"_u9y > > ######## f".$s3$' > > Hmmm. I get a bunch of mangled "JOEY HESS"'s interspersed > into a long string of complete "JOEY HESS". Is this some kind of > steganographic thingummy? Add #!/usr/bin/perl -l to the top, I forgot that. -- see shy jo From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 18:32:41 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) In-Reply-To: <20001202183150.O10883@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:31:50PM -0800 References: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net> <20001202183150.O10883@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20001202183241.C11450@zork.net> begin Joey Hess quotation: > Add #!/usr/bin/perl -l to the top, I forgot that. Wough... trippy. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From stu at brainfood.com Sat Dec 2 18:34:48 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:26:56PM -0800 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202213448.A4724@stu.ddts.net> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:26:56PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Look, I'm rilly rilly impressed that all you munchkins set a ^^^^^ ^^^^^ really really > rock down on that there "reload slarshdot" button, but do you think we ^^^^^^^^^ slashdot also you don't need two demonstrative adjectives to describe the reload button. > could just see a bit of net flotsam for what it is, rather than who's > pointing to it? -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 2 18:35:42 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001202213448.A4724@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:34:48PM -0500 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> <20001202213448.A4724@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001202183542.D11450@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > also you don't need two demonstrative adjectives to describe the > reload button. And you don't need two whole bottles of LFPs to read this list. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Sat Dec 2 18:50:51 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore Message-ID: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <@MisterBad> Hey, Don got my .deb running! <@MisterBad> He is truly a good man. (@CrackMonkey) wow (@CrackMonkey) with kaffe? <@MisterBad> No, he used the IBM JDK. <@MisterBad> "temporarily" -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Sat Dec 2 21:18:40 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:50:51PM -0800 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:50:51PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > <@MisterBad> "temporarily" http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78544 Ean Schuessler is the debian kaffe maintainer? Holy _shit_. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From aaronl at vitelus.com Sat Dec 2 22:53:34 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) In-Reply-To: <20001202183150.O10883@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:31:50PM -0800 References: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net> <20001202183150.O10883@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20001202225334.C25570@vitelus.com> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:31:50PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Monkey Master wrote: > > begin Joey Hess quotation: > > > @ARGV=$0;$x=###+H} > > > 99;while(<>)##,+Jt > > > {$y=0;$a[####{_n#n > > > $y++][$x]#=",)$i=i > > > =$& while#_H";(s)r > > > /./g;$x--#$ 8r*2p > > > }map{$g.=#;YS=t8,; > > > "\n".join#(ESxs39' > > > '',@$_}@a#rOE b+/ > > > ;eval $g# oJ"_u9y > > > ######## f".$s3$' > > Add #!/usr/bin/perl -l to the top, I forgot that. Make it do the Debian spiral and I'll be impressed. From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Dec 3 00:35:19 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? Message-ID: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> http://www.amigothornot.com/r/?eid=OIUN&key=LGDYG -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From jmorris at intercode.com.au Sun Dec 3 04:48:03 2000 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Google Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012032338100.21004-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> I just did a google search on "fucked web sites", and the first few hits came back as: 1. www.godhatesfags.com 2. www.barneyonline.com 3. www.fuckedcompany.com I wonder if these are easter eggs, or is google really that clever? - James -- James Morris <jmorris@intercode.com.au> From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sun Dec 3 05:51:05 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Google In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012032338100.21004-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012032338100.21004-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> Message-ID: <00120308510501.01486@workstation> I think you missed microsoft along with those three that you provided. On Sunday 03 December 2000 07:48, James Morris wrote: > I just did a google search on "fucked web sites", and the first few hits > came back as: > > 1. www.godhatesfags.com > 2. www.barneyonline.com > 3. www.fuckedcompany.com > > I wonder if these are easter eggs, or is google really that clever? > > > - James > -- > James Morris > <jmorris@intercode.com.au> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 3 09:18:18 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001203091818.G11450@zork.net> Oh, an intellectual, no less! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- bambamm20@mindspring.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sun Dec 3 10:53:39 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200012031853.eB3IrsL23659@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:35:19 -0800, Don Marti said: > http://www.amigothornot.com/r/?eid=OIUN&key=LGDYG I hate these stupid goth sites that are so dark you can't read them. I mean black fg with really really dark brown bg. wtf. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From stephane at zork.net Sun Dec 3 10:55:12 2000 From: stephane at zork.net (stephane) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] WWBBD? Message-ID: <20001203105512.A6836@zork.net> {gale puff crossposted without prior consent.} [pub.tv.south-park] from Briar Rose Apparently, in a January 2, 2000, NBC special, Brian Boitano did a routine to "What Would Brian Boitano Do?" I would love to see this. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sun Dec 3 11:00:47 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "03 Dec 2000 13:53:39 EST" References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <200012031853.eB3IrsL23659@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: Bob> I hate these stupid goth sites that are so dark you can't Bob> read them. I mean black fg with really really dark brown Bob> bg. wtf. Only the Chosen can read those sites, i.e. those young enough and stupid enough to waste their time squinting at them when they could just wander off to the next content-free flash-fest. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sun Dec 3 12:07:16 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org><200012031853.eB3IrsL23659@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 03 Dec 2000 19:00:47 +0000, Paul J Collins said: > Only the Chosen can read those sites, i.e. those young enough and > stupid enough to waste their time squinting at them when they could > just wander off to the next content-free flash-fest. I always get all paranoid and nervous because I start thinking if I was running IE in Windows all of a sudden these sites would become perfectly legible. Sort of a Linux browser inferiority complex. God, what is wrong with me? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sun Dec 3 12:26:47 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "03 Dec 2000 15:07:16 EST" References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <200012031853.eB3IrsL23659@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87ofytl08o.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: Bob> [snip IE-inspired inadequacy] Sort of a Linux browser Bob> inferiority complex. Bob> God, what is wrong with me? I don't know, but whatever it is, Don "temporary IDM JDK user, I swear" Marti seems to have caught it. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From zen at zork.net Sun Dec 3 12:41:41 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] WWBBD? In-Reply-To: <20001203105512.A6836@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 10:55:12AM -0800 References: <20001203105512.A6836@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001203124141.E29235@zork.net> begin stephane quotation: > Apparently, in a January 2, 2000, NBC special, Brian Boitano did a > routine to > "What Would Brian Boitano Do?" I would love to see this. My roommate tells me that it was indeed a cracktastic experience, aided by the fact that Boitano had a Cartman doll in his hand the whole routine. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 3 14:50:03 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live nude teen linux war3z chat Message-ID: <20001203145003.H11450@zork.net> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/15098.html Pr0n, bay-bee. 'sallabout *pr0n*! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 3 14:59:54 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] So *that's* why all the crazy spinsters have a gazillion cats Message-ID: <20001203145954.I11450@zork.net> http://www.linguafranca.com/print/0012/cover_pet.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Dec 3 15:33:25 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live nude teen linux war3z chat In-Reply-To: <20001203145003.H11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:50:03PM -0800 References: <20001203145003.H11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001203153325.B19925@zgp.org> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:50:03PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > Pr0n, bay-bee. 'sallabout *pr0n*! Lame-ass centrally-indexed p2p doesn't scale. "Due to recent media coverage and enormous growth, Leechnet has temporarily been disabled while we evaluate our current status." http://www.leechnet.com/ -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Dec 3 15:36:04 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] So *that's* why all the crazy spinsters have a gazillion cats In-Reply-To: <20001203145954.I11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:59:54PM -0800 References: <20001203145954.I11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001203153604.C19925@zgp.org> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:59:54PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > http://www.linguafranca.com/print/0012/cover_pet.html 'I don't want you to repeat this, but the former chairman of our department of psychiatry was convinced that his cat was hallucinating, so he gave him liquid Thorazine and it really seemed to help.'" -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sun Dec 3 17:00:17 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <00120320001700.01135@workstation> Try veiwing AMD's website with netscape for linux...heh some one get out the microscope..... On Sunday 03 December 2000 15:07, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On 03 Dec 2000 19:00:47 +0000, Paul J Collins said: > > Only the Chosen can read those sites, i.e. those young enough and > > stupid enough to waste their time squinting at them when they could > > just wander off to the next content-free flash-fest. > > I always get all paranoid and nervous because I start thinking if I was > running IE in Windows all of a sudden these sites would become > perfectly legible. Sort of a Linux browser inferiority complex. > > God, what is wrong with me? -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From nick at namodn.com Sun Dec 3 17:10:21 2000 From: nick at namodn.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Live nude teen linux war3z chat In-Reply-To: <20001203145003.H11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:50:03PM -0800 References: <20001203145003.H11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001203171021.A6345@claire.namodn.com> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 02:50:03PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Pr0n, bay-bee. 'sallabout *pr0n*! > interesting things come up in napster when one searches for 'wrapster' -- - Nick Jennings smtp: nick@namodn.com http: nick.namodn.com - From smb23 at csufresno.edu Sun Dec 3 22:21:21 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Vacation time in Denver Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012032219460.14986-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Planning a vacation, try Denver. You may never have problems after that. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/rockyflats001201.html Steve -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From smb23 at csufresno.edu Sun Dec 3 22:23:36 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] are you average? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012032221300.14986-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Not american average, but british average, where they do everything wrong. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1048000/1048174.stm Steve I'm a half inch below average if I suck in my gut really, really hard. -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From schoen at loyalty.org Sun Dec 3 23:24:48 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <20001202160114.W2306@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:01:14PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> <20001201211834.P28746@zork.net> <20001202160114.W2306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001203232448.Z28746@zork.net> Monkey Master writes: > begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > > Nick, what have you done with my "L" command that it's started to > > Cc: people when I do list replies on crackmonkey? > > It only Cc:'s people who have a Mail-Followup-To header set to > include them. Thus, it only Cc's people who have effectively > requested a Cc. It's in the mutt documentation. > > I'm surprised I had to explain this to you. I don't think it did that before. Maybe I need to subscribe to a service that will page me every time a new feature is added to mutt. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Sun Dec 3 23:25:58 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] where did those pills go (warning: perl) In-Reply-To: <20001202183241.C11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:32:41PM -0800 References: <20001202040138.E10883@kitenet.net> <20001202160944.Y2306@zork.net> <20001202183150.O10883@kitenet.net> <20001202183241.C11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001203232558.A28746@zork.net> Monkey Master writes: > begin Joey Hess quotation: > > Add #!/usr/bin/perl -l to the top, I forgot that. > > Wough... trippy. It's a sin, I tell you! -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 4 09:33:17 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net> The netizen mail-to-news gateway is bouncing messages, boyo. I'm amazed you munchkins had the skill to even set it up, but your incompetence has finally shown through. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- sharkey@zoic.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 09:44:52 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing list memberships reminder In-Reply-To: <20001203232448.Z28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:24:48PM -0800 References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <20001201135356.B11585@kitenet.net> <20001201211834.P28746@zork.net> <20001202160114.W2306@zork.net> <20001203232448.Z28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204094452.K11450@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > > It only Cc:'s people who have a Mail-Followup-To header set to > > include them. Thus, it only Cc's people who have effectively > > requested a Cc. It's in the mutt documentation. > > I don't think it did that before. It did not. I upgraded to a version that behaves according to DJB's pleaseohpleasetreatthislikeanRFC. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 09:45:23 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <00120320001700.01135@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 08:00:17PM -0500 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> Message-ID: <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > Try veiwing AMD's website with netscape for linux...heh some one get > out the microscope..... No thank you. Netscape is proprietary software. Try mozilla, and fix your font sizes while you're at it. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 10:03:26 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] are you average? In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012032221300.14986-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu>; from smb23@csufresno.edu on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 10:23:36PM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012032221300.14986-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Message-ID: <20001204100326.M11450@zork.net> begin Steve M Bibayoff quotation: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1048000/1048174.stm The Averages live in Swindon. The Wiltshire town has the population most similar to that of the UK a whole, making it - much to the disgust of some who live there - a paradise for market researchers, focus group gurus and marketing pilot schemes. I suspect that there's a sort of heisenberg effect that happens here. You want to do your market research on an *unsuspecting* population. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From joakim at helixcode.com Mon Dec 4 11:22:47 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] are you average? In-Reply-To: <20001204100326.M11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:03:26AM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012032221300.14986-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001204100326.M11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204132247.F938@helixcode.com> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:03:26AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Steve M Bibayoff quotation: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1048000/1048174.stm > The Averages live in Swindon. The Wiltshire town has the > population most similar to that of the UK a whole, making it - > much to the disgust of some who live there - a paradise for > market researchers, focus group gurus and marketing pilot > schemes. > I suspect that there's a sort of heisenberg effect that > happens here. You want to do your market research on an > *unsuspecting* population. Largely unsuspecting, anyway. That's why it works so well in the US, the world's most market-driven nation: They use black helicopters and nasally implanted tracking devices for these purposes. Although some people suspect the truth, they're marginalized as kooks. Also, there's reason to believe tinfoil hats don't really work. -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 4 10:35:00 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] GWB or Chimpanzee? Message-ID: <20001204103500.O11450@zork.net> http://gwbchimp.8m.com/ -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 10:37:00 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] GWB or Chimpanzee? In-Reply-To: <20001204103500.O11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:35:00AM -0800 References: <20001204103500.O11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204103700.P11450@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://gwbchimp.8m.com/ Damn, forgot the follow-up URL. The connection here is that of course, by logical extension, GWB is a socialist: http://www.newstatesman.co.uk/199907120006.htm -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Dec 4 10:59:21 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:45:23AM -0800 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:45:23AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > No thank you. Netscape is proprietary software. Try mozilla, > and fix your font sizes while you're at it. Is there a X resource or preference setting that lets you set the increment by which Mozilla lets <small> and <font size= increase/decrease the size of fonts? Many bastard spawn web sites make font sizes extra-small to compensate for too-large fonts -- and just tweaking the font size up fucks up the sites that are kind and don't use <font> at all. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 11:01:06 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:59:21AM -0800 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > Is there a X resource or preference setting that lets you set the > increment by which Mozilla lets <small> and <font size= > increase/decrease the size of fonts? > > Many bastard spawn web sites make font sizes extra-small to > compensate for too-large fonts -- and just tweaking the font size up > fucks up the sites that are kind and don't use <font> at all. So use lynx. It doesn't resize anyone's fonts. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Dec 4 11:03:35 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] are you average? In-Reply-To: <20001204100326.M11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:03:26AM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012032221300.14986-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001204100326.M11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204110335.B4629@zgp.org> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:03:26AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > I suspect that there's a sort of heisenberg effect that > happens here. You want to do your market research on an > *unsuspecting* population. Physicists must start doing research on subatomic particles from outside New Mexico and California. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 4 11:20:40 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> Message-ID: <00120414204000.02798@workstation> I think I just learned some more tricks to netscape participating on crackmonkey. Got to love nylug and crackmonkey. On Monday 04 December 2000 13:59, Don Marti wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:45:23AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > No thank you. Netscape is proprietary software. Try mozilla, > > and fix your font sizes while you're at it. > > Is there a X resource or preference setting that lets you set > the increment by which Mozilla lets <small> and <font size= > increase/decrease the size of fonts? > > Many bastard spawn web sites make font sizes extra-small to compensate > for too-large fonts -- and just tweaking the font size up fucks up > the sites that are kind and don't use <font> at all. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 4 11:32:13 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:01:06 -0800" References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Monkey" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: Monkey> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: -snip Mozilla font query- Monkey> So use lynx. It doesn't resize anyone's fonts. Yes! And I shall deal with my hunger by having my stomach removed and strapping a big bag of IV nutrients to my back. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 11:35:54 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 07:32:13PM +0000 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001204113553.T11450@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > Monkey> So use lynx. It doesn't resize anyone's fonts. > > Yes! And I shall deal with my hunger by having my stomach removed > and strapping a big bag of IV nutrients to my back. Have you even *used* lynx recently? Or how about w3m? The curses-based browsers are really getting much better. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From elharaty at utdallas.edu Mon Dec 4 11:39:09 2000 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001204113553.T11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012041338020.25094-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> links seems to be better than both of those in that you can background downloads. -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Paul J Collins quotation: > > Monkey> So use lynx. It doesn't resize anyone's fonts. > > > > Yes! And I shall deal with my hunger by having my stomach removed > > and strapping a big bag of IV nutrients to my back. > > Have you even *used* lynx recently? Or how about w3m? The > curses-based browsers are really getting much better. > > -- > CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future > > You are not entitled to your opinions. > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 4 11:41:53 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Sourceforge killed the XCF! Message-ID: <20001204114153.U11450@zork.net> Damn you, Chris DiBono! http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/12/04/xcf/print.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 4 11:42:34 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:35:54 -0800" References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001204113553.T11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <874s0knfbp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> Have you even *used* lynx recently? Or how about w3m? The MM> curses-based browsers are really getting much better. I've used both within the past fortnight or so. They are better, but they are still character-cell applications that don't render graphics in-line. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 4 11:46:14 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00120414461401.02798@workstation> reminds me of the days where all the other unix guys used to tease me because I had X11 working on my system and used it for soem tasks but not all. I remember them sayign "ah come on man, the command line and lynx are better for everything" I responded with "yeah everyone has thier opinion, i suppose you going to tell me that emacs is better than vi now?" On Monday 04 December 2000 14:32, Paul J Collins wrote: > >>>>> "Monkey" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: > > Monkey> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > -snip Mozilla font query- > > Monkey> So use lynx. It doesn't resize anyone's fonts. > > Yes! And I shall deal with my hunger by having my stomach removed and > strapping a big bag of IV nutrients to my back. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 11:43:48 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <874s0knfbp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 07:42:34PM +0000 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001204113553.T11450@zork.net> <874s0knfbp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001204114348.V11450@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > I've used both within the past fortnight or so. They are better, > but they are still character-cell applications that don't render > graphics in-line. The issue here was font size, not inline graphics. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 11:48:55 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <00120414461401.02798@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 02:46:14PM -0500 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00120414461401.02798@workstation> Message-ID: <20001204114855.W11450@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > reminds me of the days where all the other unix guys used to tease > me because I had X11 working on my system and used it for soem tasks > but not all. I remember them sayign "ah come on man, the command > line and lynx are better for everything" I responded with "yeah > everyone has thier opinion, i suppose you going to tell me that > emacs is better than vi now?" You talk a good schizophrenia, but can you deliver? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 4 12:00:52 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001204114855.W11450@zork.net> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <00120414461401.02798@workstation> <20001204114855.W11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <00120415005203.02798@workstation> I talk no "schizophrenia" just go about htings my way. all common sense really. Speaking of delivery where is my darn chineese food. Oh darn im seeing spots i need food. Energey ahhhh! My stomach is like an alpha processor...has more ground and power supply pins than actual I/O pins. (cheap comparison) On Monday 04 December 2000 14:48, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > reminds me of the days where all the other unix guys used to tease > > me because I had X11 working on my system and used it for soem tasks > > but not all. I remember them sayign "ah come on man, the command > > line and lynx are better for everything" I responded with "yeah > > everyone has thier opinion, i suppose you going to tell me that > > emacs is better than vi now?" > > You talk a good schizophrenia, but can you deliver? -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 4 12:01:08 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:43:48 -0800" References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001204113553.T11450@zork.net> <874s0knfbp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001204114348.V11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <87r93olzwb.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "Monkey" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: Monkey> begin Paul J Collins quotation: >> I've used both within the past fortnight or so. They are >> better, but they are still character-cell applications that >> don't render graphics in-line. Monkey> The issue here was font size, not inline graphics. Your claim that lynx and w3m had improved made no mention of fonts. It was a general statement to the effect that they had improved, to which is responded with a statement to the effect that they had improved from my point of view. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Dec 4 12:01:45 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Sourceforge killed the XCF! In-Reply-To: <20001204114153.U11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:41:53AM -0800 References: <20001204114153.U11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204120145.A6141@zgp.org> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:41:53AM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > Damn you, Chris DiBono! YM "chrsi" -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From zen at zork.net Mon Dec 4 12:04:40 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <00120415005203.02798@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 03:00:52PM -0500 References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <00120414461401.02798@workstation> <20001204114855.W11450@zork.net> <00120415005203.02798@workstation> Message-ID: <20001204120440.C14418@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > I talk no "schizophrenia" just go about htings my way. > all common sense really. Speaking of delivery where is my darn chineese food. > Oh darn im seeing spots i need food. Energey ahhhh! My stomach is like an > alpha processor...has more ground and power supply pins than actual I/O pins. > (cheap comparison) You lose. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 4 12:11:16 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <20001204120440.C14418@zork.net> References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <00120415005203.02798@workstation> <20001204120440.C14418@zork.net> Message-ID: <00120415111604.02798@workstation> Yes I loose, i get to go back to solitary confeinment now. yay!! On Monday 04 December 2000 15:04, George Moffitt wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > I talk no "schizophrenia" just go about htings my way. > > all common sense really. Speaking of delivery where is my darn chineese > > food. Oh darn im seeing spots i need food. Energey ahhhh! My stomach is > > like an alpha processor...has more ground and power supply pins than > > actual I/O pins. (cheap comparison) > > You lose. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From dhd at eradicator.org Sun Dec 3 17:26:27 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:18:40PM -0800 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:18:40PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78544 > > Ean Schuessler is the debian kaffe maintainer? Holy _shit_. FSVO "maintainer". From roesch at md.prestige.net Sat Dec 2 21:46:52 2000 From: roesch at md.prestige.net (Martin Roesch) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [Snort-users] Re: [CrackMonkey] Re: lists.sourceforge.net mailing listmembershipsreminder References: <200012012027.eB1KRBu03144@lists.sourceforge.net> <3A280BDC.B49710DB@pcf.com> <87wvdjyiqg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <3A2836B8.F34BB377@pcf.com> Message-ID: <3A29DE4C.C8D5C3DB@md.prestige.net> Ok, ok, fixed. There's only like a hundred friggin options in the mailman configuration thingy, it's hard to get everyone just right... :) -Marty Jules Agee wrote: > > Paul J Collins wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Agee <julesa@pcf.com> writes: > > > > Jules> Why have passwords at all if you're going to mail them out > > Jules> to people in cleartext on a monthly basis? > > > > Yeah, I'm sure the CIA is REALLY INTERESTED in your MailMan passwords. > > No, no, not the CIA, you fool. The ILLUMINATI. > > Besides, it's an annoying once-per-month piece of extra spam from each > mailman list with this "feature" enabled. I'm actually more annoyed > about the spam - the password itself is just a nearly-artistic touch of > absurdity. > > -- > Jules Agee > System Administrator O> > Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) > julesa@pcf.com x284 X > _______________________________________________ > Snort-users mailing list > Snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/snort-users -- Martin Roesch roesch@md.prestige.net http://www.snort.org From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 12:14:08 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca>; from dhd@eradicator.org on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 08:26:27PM -0500 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca> Message-ID: <20001204121408.X11450@zork.net> begin David Huggins-Daines quotation: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:18:40PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > > Ean Schuessler is the debian kaffe maintainer? Holy _shit_. > > FSVO "maintainer". I smell NMU! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From chris at dibona.com Mon Dec 4 12:14:17 2000 From: chris at dibona.com (Chris J. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Sourceforge killed the XCF! In-Reply-To: <20001204114153.U11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012041214091.12310-100000@spider.dibona.com> I know, I wish he had spelled myname right.,.. -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com President, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group | http://www.svlug.org Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Damn you, Chris DiBono! > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/12/04/xcf/print.html > > -- > CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future > > You are not entitled to your opinions. > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 4 12:15:21 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:43:48 -0800" References: <20001203003519.A25167@zgp.org> <87sno5l480.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012032007.eB3K7TL23707@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <00120320001700.01135@workstation> <20001204094523.L11450@zork.net> <20001204105921.A4629@zgp.org> <20001204110106.Q11450@zork.net> <878zpwnfsy.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001204113553.T11450@zork.net> <874s0knfbp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001204114348.V11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <87n1eclz8m.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Paul J Collins quotation: >> I've used both within the past fortnight or so. They are >> better, but they are still character-cell applications that >> don't render graphics in-line. MM> The issue here was font size, not inline graphics. Your claim that lynx and w3m had improved made no mention of fonts. It was a general statement, to which I responded with a statement to the effect that they had not improved from my point of view. ...is what I *meant* to say. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From pedro at flynn.zork.net Mon Dec 4 12:16:41 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca>; from dhd@eradicator.org on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 08:26:27PM -0500 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca> Message-ID: <20001204141641.K19000@flynn.zork.net> Quoting David Huggins-Daines: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 09:18:40PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=78544 > > > > Ean Schuessler is the debian kaffe maintainer? Holy _shit_. > > FSVO "maintainer". "mountaineer" -- "Get off my list!" -- Ben Franklin From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 12:20:41 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001204141641.K19000@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 02:16:41PM -0600 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca> <20001204141641.K19000@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204122041.Y11450@zork.net> begin Peter A. Peterson II quotation: > -- > "Get off my list!" -- Ben Franklin "-- " -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Mon Dec 4 12:23:53 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001204122041.Y11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:20:41PM -0800 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca> <20001204141641.K19000@flynn.zork.net> <20001204122041.Y11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204142353.L19000@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Monkey Master: > "-- " Touche. Do you still leave your clothes all over the floor? pedro From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Mon Dec 4 12:33:12 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] NEWS FLASH: Don Marti is a proprietary-JDK-using whore In-Reply-To: <20001204122041.Y11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:20:41PM -0800 References: <20001202185051.F11450@zork.net> <20001202211840.B23573@zgp.org> <20001203202627.B24733@plcom.on.ca> <20001204141641.K19000@flynn.zork.net> <20001204122041.Y11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204203311.A12603@ummagumma> * Monkey Master (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org) wrote: > begin Peter A. Peterson II quotation: > > -- > > "Get off my list!" -- Ben Franklin > > "-- " :0 fBw * ^--$ | sed -e 's/^--$/-- /' Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ '-------------------------------------------------------' From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 4 13:21:09 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] gargargarDebiangargargar Message-ID: <20001204132109.Z11450@zork.net> Heh, remember Nomadic Research Labs? The guy who rode a bike around the country with a big ol' computer? He's a big FORTH and Unix weenie all 'round. Definitely Bad People. ----- Forwarded message from Nils Lohner <lohner@debian.org> ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Project http://www.debian.org/ Debian-based Microship press@debian.org December 4, 2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ This post was written by "Steven K. Roberts" <wordy@microship.com>. And what do YOU use your Debian machine for? :] Just thought I'd let you know that the Microship is Debian-based, thanks largely to Bdale Garbee's excellent help with doing an install on an Octagon PC-500 embedded industrial PC board that was our first choice for the boatlet's big iron. This board, still speaking Debian, is now part of the WANDER wireless data collection system we're spinning off for the NSF; we're currently evaluating the power-management trade-offs of building our micro-trimaran systems around the new Octagon PC-680 (with Tillamook CPU) or a suitable laptop that is already optimized for miserly current consumption but thinner on raw I/O and human-scale connectors. In either case, we'll add VMWARE for the off-the-shelf navigation apps, use Squeak and a browser for the front end, and build all our real-time databases (from about 50 streaming telemetry channels) in MySQL with various Perl tools munging the data streams. This machine sits atop a diverse network of embedded devices, including audio, video, and serial crossbar switches to allow random interconnections among resources... and talks to the Net via Globalstar satellite phone and packet radio. Ongoing information about the project is at http://www.microship.com, and we'll be hosting all our software development on Sourceforge. Cheers from Camano Island, Washington! Steve -- Steven K. Roberts, N4RVE Nomadic Research Labs New Microship Website: http://www.microship.com Current location: Camano Island, Washington Activities of the moment (updated 12/3/00 23:00): New Microship network drawing, console internals layout, and pondering a few head-scratchers on core linux server power management... Current photos are at http://www.microship.com/latestnews/images/images.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-news-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sharkey at zoic.org Mon Dec 4 15:11:08 2000 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:33:17AM -0800 References: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205101108.D1873@forkboy.zoic.org> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:33:17AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > The netizen mail-to-news gateway is bouncing messages, boyo. > I'm amazed you munchkins had the skill to even set it up, but your > incompetence has finally shown through. Yeah, well, surprise me. Why else would I subscribe to your trouser-leg dribble of a mailing list? That's right, for some time now I've been following your narco-simian plans to subvert the dominant TLDs, the TLDs our forefathers fought under. I mean, how is Sun Microsystems meant to write "we're the dot in .marti". Which dot? Reactionary bastards. Although 'Artists for Earthquakes' was kinda cool. -----sharkmonkey From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 4 15:23:42 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Nick 'sharkey' Moore's message of "Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:11:08 +1100" References: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net> <20001205101108.D1873@forkboy.zoic.org> Message-ID: <87vgszlqip.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "NM" == Nick 'sharkey' Moore <sharkey@zoic.org> writes: NM> I mean, how is Sun Microsystems meant to write "we're the dot NM> in .marti". Which dot? Sun Microsystems could never be the dot in ".marti". Think about it. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 4 17:23:59 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Cascadia! Message-ID: <20001204172359.D1313@zork.net> http://zapatopi.net/cascadia.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nutella at zork.net Mon Dec 4 18:02:20 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:26:56PM -0800 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net> 02Dec2000 06:26PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > > yes, another slashdot article. > > but do you think we could just see a bit of net flotsam for what > it is, rather than who's pointing to it? This sounds like "Yes, it may be a .GIF but it's very funny so that makes it okay just this once" Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 4 18:08:16 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:36 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 06:02:20PM -0800 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204180816.F1313@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > > begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > > > yes, another slashdot article. > > but do you think we could just see a bit of net flotsam for what > > it is, rather than who's pointing to it? > > This sounds like "Yes, it may be a .GIF but it's very funny so that > makes it okay just this once" No, it's more like "I'm not going to follow slashdot just so I can tell what URLs not to send to this list." I don't give enough of a shit about slashdot to catalog and cross-reference each and every little thing I send along. And if you maybe got off your yeast-covered ass and took part in some real conversation around here, the forwards would dwindle. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Mon Dec 4 18:17:03 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Cascadia! In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:23:59 -0800" References: <20001204172359.D1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <87aeabd334.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: NM> http://zapatopi.net/cascadia.html My favorite part: "Links To Cascadian & Related Sites [...] Freedom to Innovate Network An innovative grassroots effort to protect the innovative freedom of Cascadian businesses to innovate against the anti-innovative US Federal government. Innovate!" ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nutella at zork.net Mon Dec 4 18:31:03 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001204180816.F1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 06:08:16PM -0800 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net> <20001204180816.F1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001204183103.A5449@zork.net> 04Dec2000 06:08PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Bernard quotation: > > > begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > > > > yes, another slashdot article. > > > but do you think we could just see a bit of net flotsam for what > > > it is, rather than who's pointing to it? > > > > This sounds like "Yes, it may be a .GIF but it's very funny so that > > makes it okay just this once" If I had been keeping up with Crackmonkey I could have said "Yes, I am using a proprietary Java development environment but it will be to produce a non-proprietary result so that makes it all okay.". That would have been much funnier. > No, it's more like "I'm not going to follow slashdot just so I > can tell what URLs not to send to this list." Translation: I am a lazy bastard. > I don't give enough of a shit about slashdot... Yet if you were to browse the archives from the Good Ol' Days you'll find that *You* were the person who would be yelling about any post that could be considered a Slashdot derivative. I don't care if you want to forward a forward of a forward all I want to do is to point out how *ironic* it is that you do so now. > And if you maybe got off your yeast-covered ass and took part > in some real conversation around here, the forwards would dwindle. Translation: It's all Bernard's fault. Hmmmm... I don't ever remember the crackmonkey list ever promising "real conversation" but I do remember something along the lines of welcoming ad hominem personal attacks. I think that "Hey Nick you screwed up" in reply to your original mindless post might constitute both a personal attack *and* real conversation. Of course, that's just my opinion - and I'm sure I'm never wrong.... Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From jays at panix.com Mon Dec 4 22:17:51 2000 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] well? are you? In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012041338020.25094-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.21.0012050117020.18768-100000@panix3.panix.com> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Emad El-Haraty wrote: > links seems to be better than both of those in that you can background > downloads. > > -- > Emad El-Haraty Lynx also renders pictures better. oo--JS. From smb23 at csufresno.edu Mon Dec 4 23:11:17 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Does your toilet measure up? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042310020.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> "In Olympics bid, Beijing's bathrooms face scrutiny" http://www.cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/east/12/04/fringe.bathroom.ap/index.html Steve -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From smb23 at csufresno.edu Mon Dec 4 23:12:29 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Damm cows Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> "Britain lost their froth due to a seasonal change in the diet of cows" http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/coffee_nofroth001204.html Oh well, coffee sucks anyway. Steve -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From danny at spesh.com Tue Dec 5 02:57:10 2000 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Damm cows In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu>; from smb23@csufresno.edu on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:12:29PM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Message-ID: <20001205105710.A75505@spesh.com> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:12:29PM -0800, Steve M Bibayoff wrote: > "Britain lost their froth due to a seasonal change in the diet of cows" > http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/coffee_nofroth001204.html Obvious mad cow joke, obvious British tea comment, obligatory snide Starbucks name-check. There. That's that out the way. I just "ported" the ZoomAir wireless card driver to Linux 2.4 (at least to the point where it works on my kernel, and no others). Do I get to be king yet? d. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 5 06:58:34 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) Message-ID: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> "Which comes to the crux of the matter. The only thing WORSE than a technical boss is one who non-technical boss who believes that intellect and experience are obtained at the very same time as a job title - i.e. because he's become IT manager he can now manage IT.... Hence the headset. Hence the top-of-the-line brand spanking new desktop and laptop he demanded as befits and IT Professional. Complete with external consultant-installed virus protection. Hence the smug attitude. " Sigh. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From silence at nilpotent.org Tue Dec 5 06:38:29 2000 From: silence at nilpotent.org (Faried Nawaz) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "04 Dec 2000 23:23:42 +0000" References: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net> <20001205101108.D1873@forkboy.zoic.org> <87vgszlqip.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <m38zpv0w8w.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: Sun Microsystems could never be the dot in ".marti". Think about it. Why, doesn't Linux run on Sparcs? From silence at nilpotent.org Tue Dec 5 06:54:00 2000 From: silence at nilpotent.org (Faried Nawaz) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] speaking of squeak... Message-ID: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Macromedia has a Flash player/plugin for Linux/i386 (which also works under FreeBSD/NetBSD, emulated). The microship forward reminded me -- Squeak 2.8 can be used to display Flash 4 content on unsupported free operating systems/platforms. It's not speedy on a K6-2/300, but it's better than searching for a Windows/Mac machine. I didn't get sounds when I tried an .swf file, but it might be because the file doesn't have any sounds in it (haven't checked). I do know that the flash player in Squeak can play sounds. Squeak can also be used to generate .swf files. I was browsing Macromedia's news server a few months ago when I came across a posting by a developer who mentioned that the swfplayer code is pretty cleanly written -- the same code base compiles on both Linux and Solaris with no warnings/etc. From the comments it *seemed* like it wouldn't be that hard to port it to certain other Unixy platforms. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 5 08:13:15 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] speaking of squeak... In-Reply-To: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> References: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Message-ID: <00120511131504.03122@workstation> Isn't squeak one of those obscure and stupidly simple programming languages....ok luagh noe hehe On Tuesday 05 December 2000 09:54, Faried Nawaz wrote: > Macromedia has a Flash player/plugin for Linux/i386 (which also works > under FreeBSD/NetBSD, emulated). The microship forward reminded me -- > Squeak 2.8 can be used to display Flash 4 content on unsupported free > operating systems/platforms. It's not speedy on a K6-2/300, but it's > better than searching for a Windows/Mac machine. I didn't get sounds > when I tried an .swf file, but it might be because the file doesn't > have any sounds in it (haven't checked). I do know that the flash > player in Squeak can play sounds. > > Squeak can also be used to generate .swf files. > > I was browsing Macromedia's news server a few months ago when I came > across a posting by a developer who mentioned that the swfplayer code > is pretty cleanly written -- the same code base compiles on both Linux > and Solaris with no warnings/etc. From the comments it *seemed* like > it wouldn't be that hard to port it to certain other Unixy platforms. > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 5 08:16:02 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <m38zpv0w8w.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> References: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net> <87vgszlqip.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <m38zpv0w8w.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Message-ID: <00120511160205.03122@workstation> some one seems way in the past.... "linux wont run on saprcs" hmmm.... On Tuesday 05 December 2000 09:38, Faried Nawaz wrote: > Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: > > Sun Microsystems could never be the dot in ".marti". Think about it. > > Why, doesn't Linux run on Sparcs? > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 5 08:44:44 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> Message-ID: <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:58:34 -0500, Arie V. Rosa said: > Complete with external consultant-installed virus protection. What's a "virus"? > Sigh. What's an "mcse"? (Actually I just want to show off my new sig, stolen from a certain Debian person. And test the spacing which as much as I like variable width fonts is impossible get right with them. Do all the pipes line up?) -- Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? at | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; Esmond, R.I., USA | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 09:20:01 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Damm cows In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu>; from smb23@csufresno.edu on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:12:29PM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Message-ID: <20001205092001.K1313@zork.net> begin Steve M Bibayoff quotation: > Oh well, coffee sucks anyway. GET OFF MY LIST. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 09:21:09 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Damm cows In-Reply-To: <20001205105710.A75505@spesh.com>; from danny@spesh.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 10:57:10AM +0000 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001205105710.A75505@spesh.com> Message-ID: <20001205092109.L1313@zork.net> begin Danny O'Brien quotation: > I just "ported" the ZoomAir wireless card driver to Linux 2.4 (at > least to the point where it works on my kernel, and no others). Do I > get to be king yet? Yessir, you get to be KING FOR A DAY, so here's your Maytagubishi kitchen autoclave and fifty liters of GOOP[TM] brand disinfectant. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 09:21:51 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] speaking of squeak... In-Reply-To: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org>; from silence@nilpotent.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:53:00PM +0459 References: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Message-ID: <20001205092151.M1313@zork.net> begin Faried Nawaz quotation: > Squeak can also be used to generate .swf files. Take it to alt.macromedia.singles-party. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 09:23:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] speaking of squeak... In-Reply-To: <00120511131504.03122@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:13:15AM -0500 References: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> <00120511131504.03122@workstation> Message-ID: <20001205092318.N1313@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > Isn't squeak one of those obscure and stupidly simple programming > languages....ok luagh noe hehe From the perverted marketing arm of EXTREME PROGRAMMING BOO-YEAH HUT HUTHUTHUTHUTHUT comes SMALLTALK, the ORIGINAL and only TRUE object-oriented language! Why the only, you ask? Because the DEFINITION of object-oriented can be conveniently defined as "exactly like smalltalk"! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 09:24:41 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:44:44AM -0500 References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001205092441.O1313@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > (Actually I just want to show off my new sig, stolen from a certain > Debian person. And test the spacing which as much as I like variable > width fonts is impossible get right with them. Do all the pipes line > up?) No sir. viz: > -- > Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have > sex? > at | A: > unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; > Esmond, R.I., USA | > more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep That joke's so old you can see the dry rot. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 5 09:42:15 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] sig test 2 Message-ID: <200012051742.eB5HgQL26436@robert.ruptured-duck.org> sig test 2 Better, yes? -- Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? at | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; Esmond, R.I., USA | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep "An open and unashamed win-at-all-costs mentality has been let loose upon the land, due initially to Bill Clinton but now practiced, if possible, even more blatantly by his acolyte Al Gore." Robert H. Bork in the Wall Street Journal, 12/5/2000. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Tue Dec 5 10:22:36 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] sig test 2 In-Reply-To: <200012051742.eB5HgQL26436@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 12:42:15PM -0500 References: <200012051742.eB5HgQL26436@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001205122236.T19000@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Bob Bernstein: > Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? > at | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; > Esmond, R.I., USA | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep Bob, why didn't you edit it in Notepad.exe and then paste it into your sig editor, instead of making us debug it for you? pedro From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 5 10:25:36 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:31:03 -0800" References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net> <20001204180816.F1313@zork.net> <20001204183103.A5449@zork.net> Message-ID: <87r93m913z.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> [...] I think that "Hey Nick you screwed up" in reply to your B> original mindless post might constitute both a personal attack B> *and* real conversation. Of course, that's just my opinion - B> and I'm sure I'm never wrong.... You missed out on the ad hominem part. And where's the non sequitur? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Dec 5 10:26:36 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] in the news Message-ID: <20001205102634.B26630@zgp.org> Journalists from the South Bay are sensitive and easily offended by urban situations. Why, oh, why, can't Prince just come and play in the food court at the Sunnyvale Mall? http://www0.mercurycenter.com/justgo/columnists/rock/docs/rock120400.htm And I was happy to report this one to fuckedcompany.com: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001205/bs/doubleclick_layoffs_dc_2.html -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From jason at sopko.net Tue Dec 5 11:40:16 2000 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] SOME of the answers Message-ID: <20001205144016.A11011@sopko.net> My cat's breath smells like cat food! http://www.someoftheanswers.com/answers/web/shortdomains.html ///Jason -- #!/usr/bin/perl @a=(Lbzjoftt,Inqbujfodf,Hvcsjt); $b="Lbssz Wbmm" ;$b =~ y/b-z/a-z/ ; $c =" Tif ". @a ." hsfbu wj" ."suvft pg b qsphsbnnfs". ":\n";$c =~y/b-y/a-z/; print"\n\n$c ";for($i=0;$i<@a; $i++) { $a[$i] =~ y/b-y/a-z/;if($a[$i]eq$a[-1]){print"and $a[$i]." ;}else{ print"$a[$i], ";}}print"\n\t\t--$b\n\n"; From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 5 10:42:37 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Damm cows In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:57:10 +0000" References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001205105710.A75505@spesh.com> Message-ID: <87itoy90bm.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "DO" == Danny O'Brien <danny@spesh.com> writes: DO> I just "ported" the ZoomAir wireless card driver to Linux 2.4 DO> (at least to the point where it works on my kernel, and no DO> others). Do I get to be king yet? If you can get it accepted into 2.4 with no changes, perhaps. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 5 10:41:41 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: silence@nilpotent.org's message of "05 Dec 2000 19:37:29 +0459" References: <20001204093317.J11450@zork.net> <20001205101108.D1873@forkboy.zoic.org> <87vgszlqip.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <m38zpv0w8w.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Message-ID: <87n1ea90d6.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "FN" == Faried Nawaz <silence@nilpotent.org> writes: FN> Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: FN> Why, doesn't Linux run on Sparcs? That's not what I was saying; that whole advertising drive by Sun is regarding Solaris on Sparcs, not your average hacked-up student OS on Sparcs. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 5 10:45:00 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <20001205092441.O1313@zork.net> References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205092441.O1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <200012051845.eB5Ij6L26506@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:24:41 -0800, Monkey Master said: > That joke's so old you can see the dry rot. Great. That means I must be very young. Super. -- Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? at | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; Esmond, R.I., USA | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep "An open and unashamed win-at-all-costs mentality has been let loose upon the land, due initially to Bill Clinton but now practiced, if possible, even more blatantly by his acolyte Al Gore." Robert H. Bork in the Wall Street Journal, 12/5/2000. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 5 10:46:58 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] speaking of squeak... In-Reply-To: "Arie V. Rosa"'s message of "Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:13:15 -0500" References: <m3zoiazzq5.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> <00120511131504.03122@workstation> Message-ID: <87elzm904d.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Arie V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> Isn't squeak one of those obscure and stupidly simple AVR> programming languages....ok luagh noe hehe It's Smalltalk. Only obscure if you've had your head up your arse for the last twenty years. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From filgy at blazenet.net Tue Dec 5 11:13:40 2000 From: filgy at blazenet.net (Joel Lesher) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:44:44AM -0500 References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> * Bob Bernstein (bob@ruptured-duck.com) wrote: > What's an "mcse"? Minesweaper Certififed, Solitaire Expert. Joel Lesher filgy@blazenet.net http://www.garson.org/~filgy/ GPG: 06ED 16A8 15EB FF83 B66A DEBE BF1E 8B7F 6E29 E46D From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 5 11:23:50 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> Message-ID: <00120514235008.03122@workstation> I like that one I will add that to my reposetory of jokes and discrimination agains M$ drones. I like that one alot. On Tuesday 05 December 2000 14:13, Joel Lesher wrote: > * Bob Bernstein (bob@ruptured-duck.com) wrote: > > What's an "mcse"? > > Minesweaper Certififed, Solitaire Expert. > > Joel Lesher > filgy@blazenet.net > http://www.garson.org/~filgy/ > GPG: 06ED 16A8 15EB FF83 B66A DEBE BF1E 8B7F 6E29 E46D > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 11:25:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <00120514235008.03122@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 02:23:50PM -0500 References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> <00120514235008.03122@workstation> Message-ID: <20001205112518.P1313@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > I like that one I will add that to my reposetory of jokes and > discrimination agains M$ drones. I like that one alot. http://www.leisuretown.com/library/jan1000/25.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 11:27:28 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <20001204183103.A5449@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 06:31:03PM -0800 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net> <20001204180816.F1313@zork.net> <20001204183103.A5449@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205112728.Q1313@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > 04Dec2000 06:08PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > > No, it's more like "I'm not going to follow slashdot just so I > > can tell what URLs not to send to this list." > > Translation: I am a lazy bastard. DAMN FUCKING STRAIGHT. > > I don't give enough of a shit about slashdot... > > Yet if you were to browse the archives from the Good Ol' Days you'll > find that *You* were the person who would be yelling about any post > that could be considered a Slashdot derivative. I don't care if you > want to forward a forward of a forward all I want to do is to point > out how *ironic* it is that you do so now. Yeah, it's true. Back then I was a lame-ass who followed slashdot and read the discussions and thought I was sooo fucking hip for it. > > And if you maybe got off your yeast-covered ass and took part > > in some real conversation around here, the forwards would dwindle. > > Translation: It's all Bernard's fault. I'm so glad you've finally come around, man. Admitting that you're the problem is the first step to finding a satisfyingly cruel resolution. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 5 11:58:03 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] toast Message-ID: <20001205115803.S1313@zork.net> This is a toast. Toasting, toasting. One, two, three. Beaujolais! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 5 11:59:27 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: Joel Lesher's message of "Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:13:40 -0500" References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> Message-ID: <87u28i7i74.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JL" == Joel Lesher <filgy@blazenet.net> writes: JL> * Bob Bernstein (bob@ruptured-duck.com) wrote: >> What's an "mcse"? JL> Minesweaper Certififed, Solitaire Expert. Money Charged, Sans Expertise. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 5 12:10:29 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thank you for the pr0n Message-ID: <20001205121029.V1313@zork.net> Burger King gives us net nanny, which gives us a FREE PR0N LINKS SITE! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?pg=/et/00/6/22/ecnburg22.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From julesa at pcf.com Tue Dec 5 12:21:10 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> Message-ID: <3A2D4E36.485357E8@pcf.com> Joel Lesher wrote: > > * Bob Bernstein (bob@ruptured-duck.com) wrote: > > What's an "mcse"? > > Minesweaper Certififed, Solitaire Expert. Must Consult Someone Else -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 12:27:39 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <3A2D4E36.485357E8@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 12:21:10PM -0800 References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> <3A2D4E36.485357E8@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001205122739.X1313@zork.net> begin Jules Agee quotation: > Joel Lesher wrote: > > * Bob Bernstein (bob@ruptured-duck.com) wrote: > > > What's an "mcse"? > > Minesweaper Certififed, Solitaire Expert. > Must Consult Someone Else Male Consort to Sir Edmund -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 5 12:56:52 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <20001205112518.P1313@zork.net> References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> <00120514235008.03122@workstation> <20001205112518.P1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <200012052057.eB5KuwL26887@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:25:18 -0800, Monkey Master opined: > http://www.leisuretown.com/library/jan1000/25.html Wow. Another distant outpost flying the crackmonkey banner. After the revolution, when I am given charge of destroying some subset of the population, I am going to round up all those earnest young men (well, late twenties - early thirties), typically in short sleeve white shirts and really bad ties, and carrying attache cases, possibly wearing pocket protectors, who are paying enormous tuitions to various "learning institutions" for all those damn certifications out there. It's not just Microsoft certifications either, although they are standard bearer. Sun has 'em, Cisco has 'em. Thousands and thousands of dollars worth of courses, just so "the industry" knows you're "competent." -- Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? at | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; Esmond, R.I., USA | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep "An open and unashamed win-at-all-costs mentality has been let loose upon the land, due initially to Bill Clinton but now practiced, if possible, even more blatantly by his acolyte Al Gore." Robert H. Bork in the Wall Street Journal, 12/5/2000. From leklund at flynn.zork.net Tue Dec 5 13:03:27 2000 From: leklund at flynn.zork.net (Lukas Eklund) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] horny dogs Message-ID: <20001205150327.D6849@flynn.zork.net> There are a lot of wacky things you can feed your dog, including pig ears, snouts, beef hearts, etc. The latest in edible dog-treat technology -- BULL PENISES. http://www.sitstay.com/store/edibles/chews1.shtml You may not want to feed you dog these if he is prone to humping other dogs, people's legs, etc. Because apparently, actual humans have been eating them becuase of their supposed aphrodisiacal qualities. http://www.netscrap.com/netscrap_detail.cfm?scrap_id=399 Although the beer holders do sound quite nice, "We've dried about 1,000 scrotums for holding beer cans. They make good Christmas presents. They're quite nice to touch," McDonald said. -- lukas | "The contents of this dumpster are private. If you look eklund | inside you'll be violating dumpster-lawyer confidentiality." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 5 13:04:27 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "05 Dec 2000 15:56:52 EST" References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation> <200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net> <00120514235008.03122@workstation> <20001205112518.P1313@zork.net> <200012052057.eB5KuwL26887@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87ofyq7f6s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: BB> [...] It's not just Microsoft certifications either, although BB> they are standard bearer. Sun has 'em, Cisco has BB> 'em. Thousands and thousands of dollars worth of courses, just BB> so "the industry" knows you're "competent." You left out Red Hat. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 5 13:54:51 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Thew case with most idiots (mcse drones) In-Reply-To: <87ofyq7f6s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <00120509583403.03122@workstation><200012051644.eB5GiwL26396@robert.ruptured-duck.org><20001205141340.A11462@blazenet.net><00120514235008.03122@workstation> <20001205112518.P1313@zork.net><200012052057.eB5KuwL26887@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87ofyq7f6s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <200012052154.eB5LstL26930@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 05 Dec 2000 21:04:27 +0000, Paul J Collins opined: > You left out Red Hat. Of course. Damn. -- Bob Bernstein | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? at | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; Esmond, R.I., USA | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep "An open and unashamed win-at-all-costs mentality has been let loose upon the land, due initially to Bill Clinton but now practiced, if possible, even more blatantly by his acolyte Al Gore." Robert H. Bork in the Wall Street Journal, 12/5/2000. From danny at spesh.com Tue Dec 5 14:29:21 2000 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Damm cows In-Reply-To: <87itoy90bm.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 06:42:37PM +0000 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012042311190.28997-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001205105710.A75505@spesh.com> <87itoy90bm.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001205222921.C10573@spesh.com> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 06:42:37PM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: > >>>>> "DO" == Danny O'Brien <danny@spesh.com> writes: > > DO> I just "ported" the ZoomAir wireless card driver to Linux 2.4 > DO> (at least to the point where it works on my kernel, and no > DO> others). Do I get to be king yet? > > If you can get it accepted into 2.4 with no changes, perhaps. > Don't push me man. I CAN FEEL IT COMING. I'M GONNA.. GONNA FORK, MAN! I'M GONNA... oh, I forked. d. From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 5 14:54:58 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) Message-ID: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from David Mandl <dmandl@panix.com> ----- From: "David Mandl" <dmandl@panix.com> To: <tulip-org@waag.org> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Tulip-org] The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks > On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, geert lovink wrote: > > > [this is a slightly better version of the piece which I posted on > > nettime yesterday, curious about your response./g] > > > > The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks > > By Geert Lovink > > Hi Geert-- > > This is a subject I'm fascinated by--the way revisionism kicks in at > times like this, and how it works. Some random comments: > > During the New Economy mania, almost NOBODY involved in the biz (money > people, dot-com entrepreneurs, financial journalists) was a nay-sayer. > Virtually ALL of them made fun of stuffy old guys who wore ties to > work and people who owned stocks in old-economy companies. I followed > this closely for years, in the press and on web sites like the > Street.com (one of the worst offenders). There's no doubt in my mind > that when the dust settles, it'll turn out that "no one" was > responsible, no one really believed that Amazon was worth $600 a > share, everyone thought allowing dogs into the office was silly, etc. > Most of all (as you point out), Wall St. will deny that they had > anything to do with it. Dot-com mania "just happened" somehow. > > Another line you hear in situations like this is how crazy "we" all > were. I remember that at the end of "The Eighties" there was a cover > story in Spy magazine entitled "WHAT WERE WE THINKING???" or something > like that. The gist of it was: "Wow, wasn't that crazy? Just look at > all the silly things we all did in The Eighties"--all the horrible > excesses you'd read about in the papers every day. I didn't do those > things (and I actually worked on Wall St.). No one I knew did those > things. This was kind of a cynical ploy to make it look like "we" > were all swept up in the ridiculous things going on, when actually > only a certain group of obnoxious people were. Similarly, the > official story is that everyone in the seventies was wearing a silly > powder-blue leisure suit and mood ring, and listening to horrendous > music. But in fact, there were a lot of great things going on in the > seventies, and a lot of fantastic music. > > So here's another way this may play out: Five years from now there'll > be a mythos of "the nineties" wherein "we" were all day-trading > knuckleheads; we all thought that the internet was the greatest thing > since the invention of paper; we all mortgaged our houses to trade net > stocks; we all started silly businesses where kids sat around and got > massages and free Coke all day; etc. > > One of the things that pissed me off the most about dot-com mania was > the snotty journalists and New Economy "investors" who made fun of > people who were too old, cautious, or square to be among the hipsters. > This was a pretty ugly phenomenon. I remember reading a sneering > article on a financial web site where their goatee-wearing west-coast > correspondent attended a financial seminar for "senior citizens" and > made fun of how feeble and silly they were, and of course the fact > that they all owned utility stocks and the like. I hope this guy lost > millions. (Actually, if he owned stock in his employer's company, he > did.) The same guy also came out in defense of the misleading ad > campaigns of the various online trading firms when those were under > attack. > > I remember that when the Tulipomania conference was being organized I > considered doing a (semi-ironic) talk in praise of old-style > capitalists. (But it would have been much too controversial, and too > many people would have missed the point.) In fact, I've got to say > that I have a lot of respect for people like Warren Buffett, who > withstood the most amazing torrent of abuse, ridicule, and pressure > over the past couple of years and ended up being one of the few > investors in the world who survived. It was an amazing spectacle to > watch. No, I won't attempt to defend the third-richest man in the > world, but I must admit that I have tremendous respect for him just > for his sheer discipline and self-confidence, and his ultra-analog, > old-world, no-bullshit style. What can I say? > > --D. > > -- > Dave Mandl > dmandl@panix.com > davem@wfmu.org > http://www.wfmu.org/~davem # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From chris at dibona.com Tue Dec 5 14:58:29 2000 From: chris at dibona.com (Chris J. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> It's also worth pointing out that the stock market could also be seen as a vry clever way of moving money from midddle and from a lessor extent the bottom castes of society, up to the rich and upper middle, all while moving the poverty line higher and higher. But I'm not negative or anything. Chris -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com President, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group | http://www.svlug.org Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 5 15:26:01 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com>; from chris@dibona.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 02:58:29PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> Message-ID: <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 02:58:29PM -0800, Chris J. DiBona wrote: > It's also worth pointing out that the stock market could also be seen as a > vry clever way of moving money from midddle and from a lessor extent the > bottom castes of society, up to the rich and upper middle, all while > moving the poverty line higher and higher. But I'm not negative or > anything. apt-get install anarchism -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stephane at zork.net Tue Dec 5 16:11:00 2000 From: stephane at zork.net (stephane) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 06:26:01PM -0500 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 02:58:29PM -0800, Chris J. DiBona wrote: > > It's also worth pointing out that the stock market could also be seen as a > > vry clever way of moving money from midddle and from a lessor extent the > > bottom castes of society, up to the rich and upper middle, all while > > moving the poverty line higher and higher. But I'm not negative or > > anything. > > apt-get install anarchism Sorry guy, but my dictionary says: Main Entry: an?ar?chism Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-"ki-z&m, -"n?r- Function: noun Date: 1642 1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups 2 : the advocacy or practice of anarchistic principles That doesn't seem to translate to "Socialist hippies who smell of patchouli take from the rich and give to the poor." Geez. From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 5 16:16:43 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I'd like mine with *extra* no-mayo, please Message-ID: <20001205161643.Z1313@zork.net> http://www.nomayo.com/legal.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 5 16:25:06 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:11:00PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:11:00PM -0800, stephane wrote: > Main Entry: an?ar?chism > Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-"ki-z&m, -"n?r- > Function: noun > Date: 1642 Considering definitions from the American Heritage Dictionary, we find: LIBERTARIAN: one who believes in freedom of action and thought; one who believes in free will. SOCIALISM: a social system in which the producers possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. Just taking those two first definitions and fusing them yields: LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM: a social system which believes in freedom of action and thought and free will, in which the producers possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. current anarchist theory was not codified until mid-19th century. > 1 : a political theory holding all forms of > governmental authority to be unnecessary > and undesirable and advocating a society > based on voluntary cooperation and free > association of individuals and groups > 2 : the advocacy or practice of anarchistic > principles > > That doesn't seem to translate to "Socialist hippies who smell of > patchouli take from the rich and give to the poor." anarchists don't "take from the rich and give to the poor" because there are no social classes. you must liberate yourself, mentally. if you can't do that, you are merely a slave looking for a new master. considering that, under anarchism, you keep all that you produce, the only reason one would be poor would be because one is lazy. been corrupted by those damn harry browne potheads usurping the word "libertarian"? get off my list you goddamn capitalist pigfucker. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stephane at zork.net Tue Dec 5 16:42:12 2000 From: stephane at zork.net (stephane) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:25:06PM -0500 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > Just taking those two first definitions and fusing them yields: > > LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM: a social system which believes in freedom of > action and thought and free will, in which the producers possess both > political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. That's a definition for "libertarian socialism", not anarchism. > anarchists don't "take from the rich and give to the poor" because > there are no social classes. you must liberate yourself, mentally. > if you can't do that, you are merely a slave looking for a new master. > considering that, under anarchism, you keep all that you produce, the > only reason one would be poor would be because one is lazy. You missed my point. Your earlier post seemed to imply that anarchism would result in an equal distribution of wealth. Clearly you take a different approach. > been corrupted by those damn harry browne potheads usurping the word > "libertarian"? get off my list you goddamn capitalist pigfucker. Suck my cock, you goddam pinko fuckhead. From stephane at zork.net Tue Dec 5 16:49:55 2000 From: stephane at zork.net (stephane) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:42:12PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> begin stephane quotation: > > been corrupted by those damn harry browne potheads usurping the word > > "libertarian"? get off my list you goddamn capitalist pigfucker. > > Suck my cock, you goddam pinko fuckhead. The funny part is, we probably actually agree on a bunch of shit, but one must keep up appearances. Stephane From schoen at loyalty.org Tue Dec 5 16:51:25 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:42:12PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205165125.S28746@zork.net> stephane writes: > begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > > > Just taking those two first definitions and fusing them yields: > > > > LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM: a social system which believes in freedom of > > action and thought and free will, in which the producers possess both > > political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. > > That's a definition for "libertarian socialism", not anarchism. Of course, left-anarchism of various varieties is also called libertarian socialism. But the idea that someone possesses "political power" in any anarchist society is tricky. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From julesa at pcf.com Tue Dec 5 17:14:17 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks(fwd) References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <3A2D92E9.682B8307@pcf.com> Robert Edmonds wrote: <SNIP> > considering that, under anarchism, you keep all that you produce, the > only reason one would be poor would be because one is lazy. Or uneducated, or handicapped, or the victim of any one of a million possible misfortunes. Have some fucking compassion. -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 5 17:24:07 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:42:12PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:42:12PM -0800, stephane wrote: > That's a definition for "libertarian socialism", not anarchism. anarchism *is* libertarian socialism you odious crack smoking capitalist. your noisome reek saturates the air. > > anarchists don't "take from the rich and give to the poor" because > > there are no social classes. you must liberate yourself, mentally. > > if you can't do that, you are merely a slave looking for a new master. > > considering that, under anarchism, you keep all that you produce, the > > only reason one would be poor would be because one is lazy. > > You missed my point. Your earlier post seemed to imply that > anarchism would result in an equal distribution of wealth. Clearly you > take a different approach. "apt-get install anarchism" means to install the anarchism FAQ using the 'apt-get' utility. since it is a very thorough FAQ it addresses issues raised by chris j. dibona's ill-informed comment about a commune. > > been corrupted by those damn harry browne potheads usurping the word > > "libertarian"? get off my list you goddamn capitalist pigfucker. > > Suck my cock, you goddam pinko fuckhead. you piece of shit capitalist fuckbait, go back to daytrading stocks, you slave. since, being un-enlightened as to the concepts of anarchism and neglecting to liberate yourself, you have no rights (except to choose your slavemaster) so i say again: get off my list. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From chris at dibona.com Tue Dec 5 17:25:29 2000 From: chris at dibona.com (Chris J. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051724420.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> Bite me, I made no comments about communes. Chris > raised by chris j. dibona's ill-informed comment about a commune. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 17:32:37 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:37 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks(fwd) In-Reply-To: <3A2D92E9.682B8307@pcf.com>; from julesa@pcf.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 05:14:17PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <3A2D92E9.682B8307@pcf.com> Message-ID: <20001205173237.A1313@zork.net> begin Jules Agee quotation: > Robert Edmonds wrote: > <SNIP> > > considering that, under anarchism, you keep all that you produce, the > > only reason one would be poor would be because one is lazy. > > Or uneducated, or handicapped, or the victim of any one of a million > possible misfortunes. Have some fucking compassion. Yeah! Go back to Libertaria! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 5 17:31:05 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:49:55PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:49:55PM -0800, stephane wrote: > begin stephane quotation: > > > > been corrupted by those damn harry browne potheads usurping the word > > > "libertarian"? get off my list you goddamn capitalist pigfucker. > > > > Suck my cock, you goddam pinko fuckhead. > > The funny part is, we probably actually agree on a bunch of shit, but > one must keep up appearances. > > Stephane # apt-get install anarchism $ links /usr/share/doc/anarchism/html/secA2.html#seca29 We should point out here that an anarchist society does not imply some sort of idyllic state of harmony within which everyone agrees. Far from it! As Luigi Galleani points out, "[d]isagreements and friction will always exist. In fact they are an essential condition of unlimited progress. But once the bloody area of sheer animal competition - the struggle for food - has been eliminated, problems of disagreement could be solved without the slightest threat to the social order and individual liberty." [The End of Anarchism?, p. 28] s/disagreements/non-sequitur arguments/g s/friction/ad-hominem personal attacks/g -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From julesa at pcf.com Tue Dec 5 17:51:51 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks(fwd) References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <3A2D9BB7.8E052BB4@pcf.com> Robert Edmonds wrote: > We should point out here that an anarchist society does not imply some > sort of idyllic state of harmony within which everyone agrees. Far from > it! As Luigi Galleani points out, "[d]isagreements and friction will always > exist. In fact they are an essential condition of unlimited progress. But > once the bloody area of sheer animal competition - the struggle for food - > has been eliminated, problems of disagreement could be solved without the > slightest threat to the social order and individual liberty." [The End of > Anarchism?, p. 28] (click) Gimme your wallet, you commie fuck. -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From nutella at zork.net Tue Dec 5 19:11:30 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts Message-ID: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> In response to Nick's (well-deserved) taunt about my rarely providing original material I submit for your enjoyment and edification the following. Did anyone else get a catalogue from these guys? http://www.johnson-smith.com It seems to be full of gifts that are ideal for those with the emacs-user mentality ("Wow, a combination liferaft, theodolite, pizza cutter and screwdriver! I must have one."). Some of the items appear to have somewhat dodgy science; http://www.johnsonsmith.com/cgi-bin/sgin0115.exe?GEN2=J200&GEN3=golf&GEN6=&GEN4=01&UID=2000120521492860&T1=50000&FNM=01 Is for golf balls giving extra distance ("Only you will know that the secret lies in the proven TNT Irradiation process, which bombards the core of each ball with high-energy gamma rays to create millions of intermolecular bonds. These bonds energize the core which can increase the distance of every shot..."). http://www.johnsonsmith.com/cgi-bin/sgin0115.exe?GEN2=J200&GEN3=gas&GEN6=&GEN4=01&UID=2000120521492860&T1=23075&FNM=01 Is for a device to increase car fuel economy ("Just snap this amazing magnetic device over your fuel feed line and it immediately begins breaking the hydrocarbon chains in your fuel into smaller pieces, letting it burn cleaner and more completely."). http://www.johnsonsmith.com/cgi-bin/sgin0115.exe?GEN2=J200&GEN3=russian&GEN6=&GEN4=01&UID=2000120521492860&T1=22819&FNM=01 Is for a book teaching Russian Strength Training Secrets ("Forget the wrong-headed theories made popular by American bodybuilders. Learn... why resting your muscles is the most important thing you can do."). How did we survive without them...? Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 20:20:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:11:30PM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > http://www.johnsonsmith.com/cgi-bin/sgin0115.exe?GEN2=J200&GEN3=golf&GEN6=&GEN4=01&UID=2000120521492860&T1=50000&FNM=01 we are VERY sorry... we are in the process of doing site maintenance don't worry...your cart is safe! just press the "back" button on your browser window and mark the page as a "favorites" or "bookmark" (depending on your browser) -- if you return to the page you mark in your browser within the next 24 hours, your cart will still be there for you! we apologize for this inconvenience! That happens even when I remove the special Bernard-tracking &UID= field. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nutella at zork.net Tue Dec 5 20:33:55 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 08:20:18PM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> 05Dec2000 08:20PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Bernard quotation: > > http://www.johnsonsmith.com/cgi-bin/sgin0115.exe?GEN2=J200&GEN3=golf&GEN6=&GEN4=01&UID=2000120521492860&T1=50000&FNM=01 > > we are VERY sorry... > we are in the process of doing site maintenance > we apologize for this inconvenience! > That happens even when I remove the special Bernard-tracking > &UID= field. Cheeziz! I go to the time and trouble to quote the more interesting parts in my original message (after removing the awful formating) and you decide to moan and complain because you don't believe me and want to check it out for yourself (wasting valuable time that could be better spent stopping yourself from re-re-re-posting tired links (unanotated)). The URL was working at the time I posted the message and I can't help it if some lame Windoze CGI .EXE chooses to throw a wobbler just as you decide to load your shopping cart. and I don't edit the URLs I just provide them. I am sure the site will be back to what passes for normal sometime and you'll be able to satisfy your latent emacs-loving personality. Just for that I am going to cancel my order for your soup spoon with built-in flashlight (for eating minestrone in the dark). Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 20:46:47 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 08:33:55PM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > Cheeziz! I go to the time and trouble to quote the more interesting > parts in my original message (after removing the awful formating) > and you decide to moan and complain because you don't believe me and > want to check it out for yourself (wasting valuable time that could > be better spent stopping yourself from re-re-re-posting tired links > (unanotated)). At least I didn't go checking the fsckin' slashdot archives for it. > The URL was working at the time I posted the message and I can't > help it if some lame Windoze CGI .EXE chooses to throw a wobbler > just as you decide to load your shopping cart. NO, Bernard, I was loading *your* shopping cart. YOu left the session ID tag in the URL. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From schoen at loyalty.org Tue Dec 5 21:10:26 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 08:31:05PM -0500 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> Robert Edmonds writes: > # apt-get install anarchism > > $ links /usr/share/doc/anarchism/html/secA2.html#seca29 "#seca29" will be a shell comment there. > We should point out here that an anarchist society does not imply some > sort of idyllic state of harmony within which everyone agrees. Far from > it! As Luigi Galleani points out, "[d]isagreements and friction will always > exist. In fact they are an essential condition of unlimited progress. But > once the bloody area of sheer animal competition - the struggle for food - > has been eliminated, problems of disagreement could be solved without the > slightest threat to the social order and individual liberty." [The End of > Anarchism?, p. 28] The slightest threat? Hmmmm, I bet Luigi Galleani must have spent a _long_ time watching pro-life and pro-choice people's interactions. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 21:12:50 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:10:26PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205211250.D1313@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > The slightest threat? Hmmmm, I bet Luigi Galleani must have spent a > _long_ time watching pro-life and pro-choice people's interactions. I've spent a long time watching the interactions of myriad people, with a fair mix of pro-choice and pro-life. Statistically, I have likely witnessed a good amount of interaction *between* members of the two sets. Of course, these folks weren't interested in doing anything "newsworthy" about it. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From schoen at loyalty.org Tue Dec 5 21:14:32 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205211250.D1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:12:50PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001205211250.D1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205211432.V28746@zork.net> Monkey Master writes: > begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > > The slightest threat? Hmmmm, I bet Luigi Galleani must have spent a > > _long_ time watching pro-life and pro-choice people's interactions. > > I've spent a long time watching the interactions of myriad > people, with a fair mix of pro-choice and pro-life. Statistically, I > have likely witnessed a good amount of interaction *between* members > of the two sets. > > Of course, these folks weren't interested in doing anything > "newsworthy" about it. Do you think that solving the material problems of animal existence for everyone would be sufficient to resolve their disagreements without any threat to social order or individual liberty? -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 21:16:19 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205211432.V28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:14:32PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001205211250.D1313@zork.net> <20001205211432.V28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205211619.E1313@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > Do you think that solving the material problems of animal existence > for everyone would be sufficient to resolve their disagreements > without any threat to social order or individual liberty? No way, man. The smaller the stakes, the bigger the politics. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From orion at tribble.dyndns.org Tue Dec 5 21:32:04 2000 From: orion at tribble.dyndns.org (Orion) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Ken Thompson retires from Bell Labs. In-Reply-To: <87r93m913z.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 06:25:36PM +0000 References: <20001202181817.A11450@zork.net> <20001202212532.A4651@stu.ddts.net> <20001202182656.B11450@zork.net> <20001204180220.B4523@zork.net> <20001204180816.F1313@zork.net> <20001204183103.A5449@zork.net> <87r93m913z.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001206003204.A5145@tribble.dyndns.org> Paul J Collins said: > >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: > > B> [...] I think that "Hey Nick you screwed up" in reply to your > B> original mindless post might constitute both a personal attack > B> *and* real conversation. Of course, that's just my opinion - > B> and I'm sure I'm never wrong.... > > You missed out on the ad hominem part. And where's the non sequitur? Goldfish don't bounce -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org "yay! sweet sweet siggification!" - kristen From nutella at zork.net Tue Dec 5 21:34:04 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 08:46:47PM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> 05Dec2000 08:46PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Bernard quotation: > > to check it out for yourself (wasting valuable time that could > > be better spent stopping yourself from re-re-re-posting tired links > > (unanotated)). > > At least I didn't go checking the fsckin' slashdot archives > for it. If you think I do this when confronted by one of your links then your ego is bigger than I imagined possible. The only reason I spotted your last effort is that I had scanned Slashdot only a few hours beforehand and the title had stuck in my mind. If you had posted a direct link I might've let it slip but you simply forwarded it from Pigdog. Such forwarding is okay if it is some kind of decent quote from a Pigdog list member but in this case it was just a link. You lose. How can I combat the blizzard of fowarding you complained about earlier in that thread if you are the main culprit - answer I point it out and complain about it. Stamp out such such willy-nilly forwarding now! Stop allowing URLs in crackmonkey messages. Insist that everyone types in all the text themselves. > > The URL was working at the time I posted the message and I can't > > help it if some lame Windoze CGI .EXE chooses to throw a wobbler > > just as you decide to load your shopping cart. > > NO, Bernard, I was loading *your* shopping cart. YOu left the > session ID tag in the URL. Ummm... in your post you indicated you tried it both with the unadulterated URL and without the ID (thus with *your* shopping cart). Besides, whose cart you choose to use is completely immaterial. I am generous enough to offer you the use of my shopping appliance (even if it does have that problem with one of the front wheels) and all you do is complain. You go away and choose your own cart and you complain again. Do I see a common theme here? Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 5 21:46:35 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:34:04PM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > I am generous enough to offer you the use of my shopping appliance > (even if it does have that problem with one of the front wheels) and > all you do is complain. You go away and choose your own cart and > you complain again. Do I see a common theme here? Yes, All this meta-complaining is growing tiresome. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Dec 5 21:49:23 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [[Bo.Myszko@exodus.net: URGENT - MUST Read -]] Message-ID: <20001206004923.N35141@samurai.com> Wow, Exodus is cool. A bunch of people (not I, but people I know) in the Toronto tech community got email similar to below, regarding a seminar by Intel and Exodus with guest speaker Bruce Schneier. (http://security.regsvc.com/) Admittedly, many of them were going for the free book, but even so... Bryan ----- Forwarded message from Bo Myszko <Bo.Myszko@exodus.net> ----- From: Bo Myszko <Bo.Myszko@exodus.net> Subject: URGENT - MUST Read - Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:12:37 -0500 Return-Receipt-To: Bo Myszko <Bo.Myszko@exodus.net> Dear Registrant, This event is end user customer focused and sponsored by Exodus and our Partners. Unfortunately you are not considered either. Please DO NOT try to attend the event as members of our staff know who you are. YOU will be asked to leave when you arrive. Sincerely, Bo Myszko Alliance Manager, East Canada Exodus Communications, Inc., "The Infrastructure for the digital economy TM" Visit us at: http://www.exodus.net ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Dec 5 21:50:45 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Re: [Tek] rejections from exodus sponsored event @ Royal Ont. Museum with Schneier talk] Message-ID: <20001206005045.O35141@samurai.com> The Exodus amusement continues... Bryan ----- Forwarded message from pete <pete@tao.ca> ----- My title at NAME is Minister of Fear. This morning I got a call from a cheery woman that was confirming my attendance tomorrow. Needless to say I was suprised when I also got one of the "please DO NOT come to our event, YOU will not be permitted to enter" emails. At first I actually thought it might be a cypher, or a trick that the attentive listener could win a prize after "infiltrating" the talk. I showed it to my coworkers and they all thought it was hilarious. After all, I'm exactly the target audience for their salespitch. Not one to leave well enough alone, I went to exodus.net and called the 1-800 number, and got the helpful person there to patch me through to Bo's cellphone. Needless to say, it wasn't published in the email, and she wasn't expecting to hear from me. She was extremely rude, and demanded to know why I have such a ridiculous title, and I told her it's because I work in a ridiculous industry. Then she told me that it was a serious event that all of the other guests took quite seriously; I didn't have the heart to tell her anyone half interested in crypto would probably be registered under Eric Draven before their own names. "Why do you work at a company called 'NAME'? What kind of NAME is that?" She then hung up on me and called NAME, and the receptionist later told me that she was again quite rude, but seemed shocked to find out that I did work there, was the MoF, etc. She indictated that NAME was supposed to be "serious" about "all this". The whole thing was just weird. She sure didn't leave me any voicemail. I sent off a letter expressing my concern to pr@ and sales@ exodus, and when I came home: Dear Pete, please accept my apologies. You should have not been copied on that email. You are more then welcome to attend the seminar. In addition, I would like to apologize to your personally, please find me at the seminar. There will be an Exodus shirt waiting for you. Sincerely, Bo Myszko Alliance Manager, East Canada _______________________________________________ Tek mailing list Tek@lists.semiotek.com http://lists.semiotek.com/mailman/listinfo/tek ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From robert at namodn.com Tue Dec 5 22:40:33 2000 From: robert at namodn.com (Rob) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] i never realized.. Message-ID: <20001205224033.A29280@claire.namodn.com> From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 5 23:19:03 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001205231903.G1313@zork.net> Judging from your sense of Web design, I say you should have let Puggy do your site. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- mark@symonds.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From stu at brainfood.com Wed Dec 6 04:08:44 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <7ebsup6hld.fsf@zork.zork.net>; from woot@zork.net on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:10:06AM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net> <7ebsup6hld.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206070844.A8714@stu.ddts.net> On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:10:06AM -0800, Edward C. Lang wrote: > Woah. Flashbacks. How can you stand contradicting yourself in such an > obvious manner? > > Let's see: 1) Lunch Class what? eat in the same venue as the unwashed unenlightened enslaved masses? > 2) Day trading who is going to fund The Revolution? > 3) Minor i'm sure there are other anarchists older than 16... > 4) Not Your List. you misspelled "organization". -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Wed Dec 6 04:10:24 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:10:26PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:10:26PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > The slightest threat? Hmmmm, I bet Luigi Galleani must have spent a > _long_ time watching pro-life and pro-choice people's interactions. apparently people have gotten more stupid since galleani's time, which is why only those with the mental ability to free themselves can become anarchists. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From nutella at zork.net Wed Dec 6 09:00:33 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 09:46:35PM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> 05Dec2000 09:46PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Bernard quotation: > > I am generous enough to offer you the use of my shopping appliance > > (even if it does have that problem with one of the front wheels) and > > all you do is complain. You go away and choose your own cart and > > you complain again. Do I see a common theme here? > > Yes, All this meta-complaining is growing tiresome. *** BERNIE-OS 0.9 (19630119) *** *** ERROR ERROR ERROR *** RECURSIVE COMPLAINT STATEMENT CAUSED STACK OVERFLOW SYSTEM RESTARTING: PLEASE GET OFF MY LIST -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Dec 6 09:38:00 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 07:25:06PM -0500 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001206113759.A5438@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Robert Edmonds: > the only reason one would be poor would be because one is lazy. Hahahahahaha! pedro From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Dec 6 09:38:54 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net>; from stephane@zork.net on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:42:12PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206113854.B5438@flynn.zork.net> > Suck my cock, you goddam pinko fuckhead. Hahahah, oh man. This is great! pedro From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Dec 6 09:42:03 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:10:24AM -0500 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Robert Edmonds: > apparently people have gotten more stupid since galleani's time, which > is why only those with the mental ability to free themselves can become > anarchists. Haha! Hahahahahahah! pedro From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 11:10:34 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 09:00:33AM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > > Yes, All this meta-complaining is growing tiresome. > > *** BERNIE-OS 0.9 (19630119) *** > *** ERROR ERROR ERROR *** > RECURSIVE COMPLAINT STATEMENT CAUSED STACK OVERFLOW > SYSTEM RESTARTING: PLEASE GET OFF MY LIST Such a polite crash-dump. Obviously not an OS for Bad People of the Future. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 6 11:41:58 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:10:34 -0800" References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <87n1e98hh5.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Bernard quotation: >> *** BERNIE-OS 0.9 (19630119) *** >> *** ERROR ERROR ERROR *** >> RECURSIVE COMPLAINT STATEMENT CAUSED STACK OVERFLOW >> SYSTEM RESTARTING: PLEASE GET OFF MY LIST MM> Such a polite crash-dump. Obviously not an OS for Bad People MM> of the Future. What do you expect from an OS whose name contains a dimunitive form of the name Bernard? More like an OS for Nice People of the Present. Guru Meditation Error in a big flashing red box; now that was a way to go. Pity Commodore decided that "Software Failure" was a better name. Bastardos. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From nick at zork.net Wed Dec 6 12:26:30 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: Re: cunit] Message-ID: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net> Okay, so am I totally high here, or is "cunit" an undesirable project name? ----- Forwarded message from Christian Holmboe <spotty@codefactory.se> ----- Hi Nick Thank you for your thoughts, I'm well aware of the name problem.. On one hand I wouldn't like users of cunit feel that they had to sprikle their code with profanities and on the other hand 'cunit' is by tradition *the* name for a C unit testing framework. Do you think this is a big enough issue for the english speaking users to motivate a name change? I might have difficulties to grasp exactly how eye catching the name is to native english speaking persons, you can help me with this. Christian On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > I may have sent mail to you before, when I was mistakenly following an > old xprogramming.org link. > > I've been playing around with cunit, and I'm quite pleased with it. > The only problem I've had with it is the name. > > The 'i' is the smallest letter in the name, and my eye often skips it. > If you remove the 'i' from "cunit", you get an extremely dirty English > word. > > I realize this is a rather petty thing to complain about, and I'm not > on a moral purity crusade or anything. I also realize that there's a > long tradition of naming unit-testing suites <foo>unit. I just > thought that perhaps the dirty English word isn't as widely known in > Sweden, and you might like to know. > > -- Christian Holmboe christian.holmboe@codefactory.se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)90 - 71 86 10 Mobile: +46 (0)70 - 587 90 49 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Dec 6 12:33:08 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: Re: cunit] In-Reply-To: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:26:30PM -0800 References: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206123308.C28746@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > Okay, so am I totally high here, or is "cunit" an undesirable > project name? Maybe they could call it c-unit? -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Dec 6 12:35:06 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Hooray Message-ID: <20001206123506.D28746@zork.net> OK, we should all sing "Happy Nameday" to Nick. If we use NTP, maybe we could do it in unison. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 12:35:52 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: Re: cunit] In-Reply-To: <20001206123308.C28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:33:08PM -0800 References: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net> <20001206123308.C28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206123552.L1313@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > Nick Moffitt writes: > > Okay, so am I totally high here, or is "cunit" an undesirable > > project name? > > Maybe they could call it c-unit? I was thinking of suggesting that. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 12:40:11 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Hooray In-Reply-To: <20001206123506.D28746@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:35:06PM -0800 References: <20001206123506.D28746@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206124011.M1313@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > OK, we should all sing "Happy Nameday" to Nick. > > If we use NTP, maybe we could do it in unison. Perhaps you mean "Mnohaja Lita" (sp). http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/iar/mno.wav -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Wed Dec 6 12:46:26 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: Re: cunit] In-Reply-To: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:26:30PM -0800 References: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206204626.C8446@ummagumma> * Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net) wrote: > Okay, so am I totally high here, or is "cunit" an undesirable > project name? Maybe, but I've never had a problem with the word "clock".... Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ '-------------------------------------------------------' From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 12:43:55 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: Re: cunit] In-Reply-To: <20001206204626.C8446@ummagumma>; from gilbertt@linuxbrit.co.uk on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 08:46:26PM +0000 References: <20001206122630.K1313@zork.net> <20001206204626.C8446@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20001206124355.N1313@zork.net> begin Tom Gilbert quotation: > * Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net) wrote: > > Okay, so am I totally high here, or is "cunit" an undesirable > > project name? > > Maybe, but I've never had a problem with the word "clock".... See, that's because your mind, when looking for a word to map to the visual pattern of "clock" comes up with the image of a clock. When I see "cunit", my brain doesn't automatically come up with "A unit-testing suite for the C programming language". (Cue face-circuit Mars discussion) -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From stu at brainfood.com Wed Dec 6 13:33:35 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 11:42:03AM -0600 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206163335.A1667@stu.ddts.net> On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 11:42:03AM -0600, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > Haha! Hahahahahahah! is that the only thing you can say? this is non-sequitur arguments and ad hominem attacks, not boring inanities and stupidass shit. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 13:41:28 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001206163335.A1667@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 04:33:35PM -0500 References: <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net> <20001206163335.A1667@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001206134128.P1313@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 11:42:03AM -0600, Peter A. Peterson II > wrote: > > Haha! Hahahahahahah! > > is that the only thing you can say? this is non-sequitur arguments > and ad hominem attacks, not boring inanities and stupidass shit. Ah, grasshopper, the view from before the mirror is an unpleasant one, no? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 6 13:53:54 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] feng shui is not good for web weenies and other living things Message-ID: <20001206135352.A12509@zgp.org> Analee Newitz on how companies fuck up: "You know what I heard about pets.com was one of the reasons why they went under was that one of the top people was obsessed with Feng Shui. And they spent zillions of dollars making their office totally Feng Shui -" http://www.sfbayguardian.com/SFLife/35/10/frank.html -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From nick at zork.net Wed Dec 6 14:00:17 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Please be advised that human remains may not be transported through the mail, but we assumed this to be of sentimental value, and made an exception in your case. Message-ID: <20001206140016.Q1313@zork.net> The AIR win again: http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume6/v6i4/postal-6-4.html Sound-emitting toy. A monkey-in-box toy that, upon shaking, shouted, "Let me out of here! Help! Let me out of here!" Addressed in big letters to LITTLE JOHNNIE. Sound toy was equipped with a new battery. Delivery at doorstep, 6 days. Sound-emitting toy. Same toy as under "Sentimental" above, wrapped securely in brown paper. Never received. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Dec 6 15:15:46 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] feng shui is not good for web weenies and other living things In-Reply-To: <20001206135352.A12509@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 01:53:54PM -0800 References: <20001206135352.A12509@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001206151546.J28746@zork.net> Don Marti writes: > Analee Newitz on how companies fuck up: > > "You know what I heard about pets.com was one of the reasons why they > went under was that one of the top people was obsessed with Feng Shui. > And they spent zillions of dollars making their office totally Feng Shui > -" > > http://www.sfbayguardian.com/SFLife/35/10/frank.html Wow, Tom Frank is interesting. I would like to meet him. I do actually have a book he edited, but more books by people identified as villains in the interview (or who identify Tom Frank as villain in their books). -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From tom at linuxbrit.co.uk Wed Dec 6 15:58:44 2000 From: tom at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 11:10:34AM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001206235844.F8446@ummagumma> * Monkey Master (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org) wrote: > begin Bernard quotation: > > > Yes, All this meta-complaining is growing tiresome. > > > > *** BERNIE-OS 0.9 (19630119) *** > > *** ERROR ERROR ERROR *** > > RECURSIVE COMPLAINT STATEMENT CAUSED STACK OVERFLOW > > SYSTEM RESTARTING: PLEASE GET OFF MY LIST > > Such a polite crash-dump. Obviously not an OS for Bad People > of the Future. I disagree. From what I've seen of self-proclaimed Bad People of the Future, they just plain suck goats in the present.... "Yeah I suck, but tomorrow I'll be Bad!" Tom. (No plans for tomorrow, just trying not to be pointless today). -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ '-------------------------------------------------------' From geoperry at iww.org Wed Dec 6 16:10:58 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinning globe Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012061609140.8194-100000@iww.org> <drbronner.com> -g From sharkey at zoic.org Wed Dec 6 16:16:53 2000 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <87n1e98hh5.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:41:58PM +0000 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> <87n1e98hh5.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001207111652.A1370@forkboy.zoic.org> On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:41:58PM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: > > What do you expect from an OS whose name contains a dimunitive form of > the name Bernard? More like an OS for Nice People of the Present. Bernardis 2.0.9 (191000101) Kernel Panic: (0) No Error Kernel Panic: (0xDEAD) invalid error code (5) Kernel Panic: (0xBEEF) can't halt Halted: Get off my list. Much More Bad. Much More Future. -----sharkey From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 16:19:34 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 08:24:07PM -0500 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001206161934.X1313@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 04:42:12PM -0800, stephane wrote: > > That's a definition for "libertarian socialism", not anarchism. > > anarchism *is* libertarian socialism you odious crack smoking > capitalist. your noisome reek saturates the air. I would just like to make a statement to everyone on this list who has a political ideology: YOU'RE NEGLECTING HUMAN NATURE! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From joakim at helixcode.com Wed Dec 6 17:17:39 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001207111652.A1370@forkboy.zoic.org>; from sharkey@zoic.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:16:53AM +1100 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> <87n1e98hh5.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001207111652.A1370@forkboy.zoic.org> Message-ID: <20001206191739.B938@helixcode.com> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:16:53AM +1100, Nick 'sharkey' Moore wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:41:58PM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: >> What do you expect from an OS whose name contains a dimunitive form of >> the name Bernard? More like an OS for Nice People of the Present. > Bernardis 2.0.9 (191000101) > Kernel Panic: (0) No Error > Kernel Panic: (0xDEAD) invalid error code (5) > Kernel Panic: (0xBEEF) can't halt > Halted: Get off my list. > Much More Bad. Much More Future. Bernaise works better with the dead beef. -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From stephane at zork.net Wed Dec 6 16:24:56 2000 From: stephane at zork.net (stephane) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001206235844.F8446@ummagumma>; from tom@linuxbrit.co.uk on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 11:58:44PM +0000 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> <20001206235844.F8446@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20001206162456.A1481@zork.net> begin Tom Gilbert quotation: > I disagree. From what I've seen of self-proclaimed Bad People of the > Future, they just plain suck goats in the present.... > > "Yeah I suck, but tomorrow I'll be Bad!" Yo momma. -- BadAzz Mofo From jdub at aphid.net Wed Dec 6 16:31:59 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001206161934.X1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 04:19:34PM -0800 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001206161934.X1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001207113159.Q12428@aphid.net> <quote who="Monkey Master"> > I would just like to make a statement to everyone on this list > who has a political ideology: > > YOU'RE NEGLECTING HUMAN NATURE! Who's the fasci-- commun-- humanis-- capital-- Jesui-- Perky Person of the Present now, then? - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- "In addition to these ample facilities, there exists a powerful configuration tool called gcc." - Elliot Hughes, author of lwm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 16:37:16 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001207113159.Q12428@aphid.net>; from jdub@aphid.net on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:31:59AM +1100 References: <20001205145458.Y1313@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205202407.A6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001206161934.X1313@zork.net> <20001207113159.Q12428@aphid.net> Message-ID: <20001206163716.Z1313@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > <quote who="Monkey Master"> > > YOU'RE NEGLECTING HUMAN NATURE! > > > Who's the fasci-- commun-- humanis-- capital-- Jesui-- Perky Person of the > Present now, then? I'm telling you, man. All these political ideologies. They IGNORE HUMAN NATURE. That's the BASIC FLAW! Take Capitalism, f'rinstance. It puts trust in market forces. How ignorant of human nature! Take Communism, too. It puts trust in government. How naive! That totally disregards human nature! In fact, the only ideology that takes into account human nature as it interferes with liberty, justice, allocation of resources, and gettin' it on, is the PURE-WORLD party. The fundamental tenet of PURE-WORLDism is that without humans or resources for them to squabble over, HUMAN NATURE cannot interfere! Thus, the proposal is that we immediately effect the destruction of the Earth. Only through this can we achieve complete PURITY. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From elharaty at utdallas.edu Wed Dec 6 17:39:35 2000 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20001206163716.Z1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012061938210.25094-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Monkey Master wrote: > > The fundamental tenet of PURE-WORLDism is that without humans > or resources for them to squabble over, HUMAN NATURE cannot interfere! > Thus, the proposal is that we immediately effect the destruction of > the Earth. Only through this can we achieve complete PURITY. > I implore all readers to help our cause! I myself am constantly hyperventilating, and converting the world's oxygen supply to carbon dioxide. We will all sufficate to death! -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 6 17:45:33 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012061938210.25094-100000@apache.utdallas.edu>; from elharaty@utdallas.edu on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 07:39:35PM -0600 References: <20001206163716.Z1313@zork.net> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012061938210.25094-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20001206174532.C1313@zork.net> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > I implore all readers to help our cause! I myself am constantly > hyperventilating, and converting the world's oxygen supply to carbon > dioxide. We will all sufficate to death! You FOOL! You're NEGLECTING HUMAN NATURE! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From seans at donkeyshow.org Wed Dec 6 17:27:53 2000 From: seans at donkeyshow.org (Donkey Hotey) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinning globe In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012061609140.8194-100000@iww.org> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012061727290.22841-100000@vax.area.com> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, George J.P. Perry wrote: > <drbronner.com> -g > > Perhaps Al Gore should call Dr. Bronner to tell him that the picture is upside down. -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." -- Ben Franklin From geoperry at iww.org Thu Dec 7 07:24:13 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> Zeitgeist: <http://zeitgeist.citysearch.com/>. Today is Pearl Harbour Day. Infamy, and all that. Inflaming Americans' passions since '41... ... but since we've been celebrating Hiroshima & Nagasaki Days since '45... inflaming Japanese cities, as it were, !hey... ... no hard feelings, ?o.k. So. Zeitgeist. Traditional Japanese fare. Guinness. Tamales. Smiles. <http://zeitgeist.citysearch.com/>. aMPLE, ???... stupid left pinky. Ahem. Ample butt-parking on park-class benches/tables, beneath Frisco's sheltering sky. ?Did I mention smile. Nine P.M. (21h00). Monkeyshines. Waxing Gibbon (sp) moonshine. ?Music. May be. If. ... You are the secret ingredient in Crackmonkey's Stone Soup. C'mon. -g p.s... <http://zeitgeist.citysearch.com/> From jdub at aphid.net Thu Dec 7 07:37:43 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com>; from geoperry@iww.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 07:24:13AM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> Message-ID: <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> <quote who="George J.P. Perry"> > aMPLE, ???... stupid left pinky. Ahem. Ample butt-parking on park-class > benches/tables, beneath Frisco's sheltering sky. Once upon a time, like, maybe last month, TNICNaZ mails were even funny - perhaps artful. YES, ASCII ART IS ART, THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT THAT! I used to wonder what it would be like if I, stuck out in the far reaches of veritable nowhere, were to be in the centre of the universe (according to whom?)... and could go to CNaZ. Bahfuckityoulazysod. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "One World, one Web, one Browser." - Microsoft promotion "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler From geoperry at iww.org Thu Dec 7 07:43:24 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: Kiss my ascii art (Was: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ) In-Reply-To: <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070740140.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> Here's the Pope's ring: =(*)= On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Subject: Re: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ > > Once upon a time, like, maybe last month, TNICNaZ mails were even funny - > perhaps artful. YES, ASCII ART IS ART, THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT THAT! I used > to wonder what it would be like if I, stuck out in the far reaches of > veritable nowhere, were to be in the centre of the universe (according to > whom?)... and could go to CNaZ. > > Bahfuckityoulazysod. > > - Jeff > > > -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- > > "One World, one Web, one Browser." - Microsoft promotion > "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 7 07:57:52 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb Message-ID: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> Heh...... I was reading "FORBES" the magizine yesterday in a lawyers office yesterday. Well it was the november issue. Shjortly ran across an intel advertisment the wording was quite dumb considering thier past time to market blunders... It read in big bold letters.... "We do todays fast buissnes" "We make them go fast so they will come back fast" "Intel" An example of thier marketing being totaly wrong...remember the big recal they had to perform since they released the 1.1 Ghz chip to early (fast) to market. heh go figure -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From leklund at flynn.zork.net Thu Dec 7 08:13:11 2000 From: leklund at flynn.zork.net (Lukas Eklund) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <00120710575204.01213@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 10:57:52AM -0500 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <20001207101311.F6849@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Arie V. Rosa: > An example of thier marketing being totaly wrong...remember the big recal > they had to perform since they released the 1.1 Ghz chip to early (fast) to > market. 1. It's actually a case of their marketing being right. They sent the chips out too fast and they got them back right quick. 2. Take it to alt.comp.stupid.ass.pentium.stories, because I really couldn't care any less. -- lukas | "The contents of this dumpster are private. If you look eklund | inside you'll be violating dumpster-lawyer confidentiality." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 7 08:20:29 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <20001207101311.F6849@flynn.zork.net> References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <20001207101311.F6849@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <00120711202905.01213@workstation> So you can use your legal right not to read it....seems like your one of those people who compalin about porn and look at it anyway.....heh go figure "dont' like the music"..... "dont listen to it" On Thursday 07 December 2000 11:13, Lukas Eklund wrote: > Quoting Arie V. Rosa: > > An example of thier marketing being totaly wrong...remember the big recal > > they had to perform since they released the 1.1 Ghz chip to early (fast) > > to market. > > 1. It's actually a case of their marketing being right. They sent the > chips out too fast and they got them back right quick. > > 2. Take it to alt.comp.stupid.ass.pentium.stories, because I really > couldn't care any less. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From leklund at flynn.zork.net Thu Dec 7 08:55:44 2000 From: leklund at flynn.zork.net (Lukas Eklund) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <00120711202905.01213@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 11:20:29AM -0500 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <20001207101311.F6849@flynn.zork.net> <00120711202905.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <20001207105544.G6849@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Arie V. Rosa: > So you can use your legal right not to read it....seems like your one of > those people who compalin about porn and look at it anyway.....heh And you should use your legal right to learn how to properly respond to messages and/or get a mailer that has a list reply function. -- lukas | "The contents of this dumpster are private. If you look eklund | inside you'll be violating dumpster-lawyer confidentiality." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 7 09:08:23 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <20001207105544.G6849@flynn.zork.net> References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <00120711202905.01213@workstation> <20001207105544.G6849@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <00120712082306.01213@workstation> eh hehe matching wits with some one as stubborn as me is pointless... you win I loose your superior intellect has befuddled me, I am in awe. You comments have put me on a crusade to the library. Only if you knew my age.................maybe im 3 hmmmmm Not every one likes your method...i like my mailer while it is out of the ordinary i like it...who cares what you got to say... I bet you like those all in one kinda things you know....it slices tomatoes and mows the lawn too....probably enjoy emacs too. Nothing against it..but people now and then prefer things the hardway.. hmmm...say why don't you erase that windows partition you got sitting there... On Thursday 07 December 2000 11:55, Lukas Eklund wrote: > Quoting Arie V. Rosa: > > So you can use your legal right not to read it....seems like your one of > > those people who compalin about porn and look at it anyway.....heh > > And you should use your legal right to learn how to properly respond to > messages and/or get a mailer that has a list reply function. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From nutella at zork.net Thu Dec 7 09:10:53 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Holiday gifts In-Reply-To: <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 11:10:34AM -0800 References: <20001205191130.A3583@zork.net> <20001205202018.B1313@zork.net> <20001205203355.B5551@zork.net> <20001205204647.C1313@zork.net> <20001205213404.A7847@zork.net> <20001205214635.F1313@zork.net> <20001206090033.B23155@zork.net> <20001206111034.J1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001207091053.A20790@zork.net> 06Dec2000 11:10AM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Bernard quotation: > > > > *** BERNIE-OS 0.9 (19630119) *** > > *** ERROR ERROR ERROR *** > > RECURSIVE COMPLAINT STATEMENT CAUSED STACK OVERFLOW > > SYSTEM RESTARTING: PLEASE GET OFF MY LIST > > Such a polite crash-dump. Obviously not an OS for Bad People > of the Future. 1) I never claimed to be a bad person, nor did I suggest my OS for such people. 2) Being polite and being bad are not mutually exclusive so please go and f**k yourself if you would be so kind. 3) Considering the near 38 year datestamp for the OS (I did not include the extra 9 months needed for assembly) it would also be a poor choice as an OS for the future - as has been pointed out gleefully by one monkey-named listmember it is older than UNIX. 4) It comes as no surprise that you have once again exercised your flair in stating the obvious. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nutella at zork.net Thu Dec 7 09:26:05 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com>; from geoperry@iww.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 07:24:13AM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> Message-ID: <20001207092605.B20790@zork.net> 07Dec2000 07:24AM (-0800) From [geoperry@iww.org] geoperry [George J.P. Perry] > Zeitgeist: <http://zeitgeist.citysearch.com/>. > You are the secret ingredient in Crackmonkey's Stone Soup. That one is a golden oldie. > p.s... <http://zeitgeist.citysearch.com/> Hmmm... a postscript as well. Who could resist. I will do my best as it is time for an "interim celebration/wake" as the company in the mid-west wants me back for another interview (they had to wait a couple of weeks for the temperature to drop). I have had a total of about 6 h sleep over the last two nights so my visit may be brief. I also found that Andronicos sells Arrogant Bastard for <50% of the price in the Aussie-lounge but Guinness in pitchers.. MmmmmMmmmmm... I'll also break out the emergency ASCII art to fill the void; -(-(--_ / ( ( \ | | | | DOUGH... the stuff... | __ __) that buys me beer... | / \/ \ RAY..... the guy that /\/\ (o )o ) sells me beer... /c \__/ --. ME...... the guy... ( ) who drinks the beer, \_ _-------' FAR..... the distance to my beer. | / \ SO...... I think I'll have a beer. | | '\_______) LA...... La, la la la la beer | \_____) TEA..... no thanks, |_____ | I'm drinking beer... |______/\/\ That will bring us back to... / \ D'OH! -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 7 09:27:01 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <00120712082306.01213@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:08:23PM -0500 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <00120711202905.01213@workstation> <20001207105544.G6849@flynn.zork.net> <00120712082306.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <20001207092701.E1313@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > eh hehe > matching wits with some one as stubborn as me is pointless... > you win I loose > your superior intellect has befuddled me, I am in awe. You comments have put > me on a crusade to the library. Ladies and germs, I nominate Arie V. Rosa as Crackmonkey's new village idiot! Sorry, AaronL, but you've been forked. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 7 09:43:23 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <20001207092701.E1313@zork.net> References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <00120712082306.01213@workstation> <20001207092701.E1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <00120712432307.01213@workstation> Let me do the aol thing now eeehhhmmm........ "lmao" On Thursday 07 December 2000 12:27, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > eh hehe > > matching wits with some one as stubborn as me is pointless... > > you win I loose > > your superior intellect has befuddled me, I am in awe. You comments have > > put me on a crusade to the library. > > Ladies and germs, I nominate Arie V. Rosa as Crackmonkey's new > village idiot! Sorry, AaronL, but you've been forked. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 7 09:57:13 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001207095713.F1313@zork.net> Now where the fuck do we buy our morphine from? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- sears@cis.ohio-state.edu has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 7 09:57:44 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <00120712432307.01213@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:43:23PM -0500 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <00120712082306.01213@workstation> <20001207092701.E1313@zork.net> <00120712432307.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <20001207095744.G1313@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > Let me do the aol thing now No. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From julesa at pcf.com Thu Dec 7 10:31:43 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <00120712082306.01213@workstation> <20001207092701.E1313@zork.net> <00120712432307.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <3A2FD78F.766D9FB1@pcf.com> "Arie V. Rosa" wrote: > Let me do the aol thing now > eeehhhmmm........ "lmao" What the hell does that mean? Let me apply ointment? Load my anal orifice? -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Thu Dec 7 10:46:52 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: Jeff Waugh's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 02:37:43 +1100" References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> Message-ID: <874s0gt6g3.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@aphid.net> writes: -snip a chunk of GP's TCINAZ- JW> Once upon a time, like, maybe last month, TNICNaZ mails were JW> even funny - perhaps artful. [ etc... ] You can scan an ASCII-art infested TICNAZ mail in seconds, but you will have to slow down and engage your brain to get value from George's ones. I suspect some kind of selection process is extant. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Thu Dec 7 10:51:59 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: "Arie V. Rosa"'s message of "Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:57:52 -0500" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Arie V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> "We do todays fast buissnes" AVR> "We make them go fast so they will come back fast" AVR> "Intel" CPU power is less essential to business than good communication and storage hardware. And a fast wide bus tying them to the CPU, which Intel has yet to get off their asses and provide. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Thu Dec 7 10:56:14 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: "Arie V. Rosa"'s message of "Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:08:23 -0500" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <00120711202905.01213@workstation> <20001207105544.G6849@flynn.zork.net> <00120712082306.01213@workstation> Message-ID: <87vgswrrg1.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Arie V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> I bet you like those all in one kinda things you know....it AVR> slices tomatoes and mows the lawn too....probably enjoy emacs AVR> too. Nothing against it..but people now and then prefer AVR> things the hardway.. Since I knew Emacs pretty well before I had an urgent requirement for a decent mail client, using anything other than an Emacs-based mailer would have been "the hard way". The hard way for me would have been installing some nasty Norweigan C++ GUI library with an iffy licensing strategy just so I could have the pleasure of a whole bunch of Teutonic "k"-based puns. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From nutella at zork.net Thu Dec 7 11:09:58 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: <874s0gt6g3.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 06:46:52PM +0000 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> <874s0gt6g3.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001207110958.A23761@zork.net> 07Dec2000 06:46PM (+0000) From [sneakums@sto-kerrig.org] sneakums [Paul J Collins] > > You can scan an ASCII-art infested TICNAZ mail in seconds, but you > will have to slow down and engage your brain to get value from > George's ones. By George I think you've hit the nail on the head! Dump the frippery and foppishness of the casual post and sink your teeth into the artery-clogged heart of the matter. Discard the GUI of the ASCII art and perceive the efficient manner in which George-OS can simultaneously reprogram many minds with the efficient APL-oriented command line interface. George-Script: A syscall for the psyche... > I suspect some kind of selection process is extant. If only failure were fatal.... Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From seans at donkeyshow.org Thu Dec 7 09:59:40 2000 From: seans at donkeyshow.org (Donkey Hotey) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinningglobe In-Reply-To: <3A2F0D4F.6440317A@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Ben Brockert wrote: > Donkey Hotey wrote: > > Perhaps Al Gore should call Dr. Bronner to tell him that the picture is > > upside down. > > There is no upside down in space. North being up doesn't mean anything. > At least it's rotating in the right direction, unlike Microsoft's. > *sigh* yes, I know that. Al Gore doesn't. Which is why he once called the editor of the Washington Post to tell him that their picture of the Earth was upside down. I'm surprised I have to explain this to you. -- "Who says people in the midwest don't understand humor?" -- Ben Franklin From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 7 11:46:27 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinningglobe In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com>; from seans@donkeyshow.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:59:40AM -0800 References: <3A2F0D4F.6440317A@iastate.edu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com> Message-ID: <20001207114627.K1313@zork.net> (in response to benb@iastate.edu's quick cosmospacial quip) begin Donkey Hotey quotation: > -- > "Who says people in the midwest don't understand humor?" > -- Ben Franklin http://theonion.com/onion3644/black_guy_photoshopped_in.html -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From benb at iastate.edu Thu Dec 7 12:44:07 2000 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinningglobe References: <3A2F0D4F.6440317A@iastate.edu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com> <20001207114627.K1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A2FF697.3949DB5A@iastate.edu> Monkey Master wrote: > http://theonion.com/onion3644/black_guy_photoshopped_in.html Ha! I'm posting that on my dorm room door. Coincidentally, the course catalog run was really small, as the actual students are supposed to look up classes online, rather than on dead tree. Ben From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Dec 7 12:58:14 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinningglobe In-Reply-To: <3A2FF697.3949DB5A@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 02:44:07PM -0600 References: <3A2F0D4F.6440317A@iastate.edu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com> <20001207114627.K1313@zork.net> <3A2FF697.3949DB5A@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001207125814.A30136@zgp.org> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 02:44:07PM -0600, Ben Brockert wrote: > Monkey Master wrote: > > http://theonion.com/onion3644/black_guy_photoshopped_in.html > > Ha! I'm posting that on my dorm room door. The Onion sucks ass. http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/09/20/photo.fix.ap/ -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 7 13:03:44 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinningglobe In-Reply-To: <20001207125814.A30136@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:58:14PM -0800 References: <3A2F0D4F.6440317A@iastate.edu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com> <20001207114627.K1313@zork.net> <3A2FF697.3949DB5A@iastate.edu> <20001207125814.A30136@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001207130344.L1313@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > > Monkey Master wrote: > > > http://theonion.com/onion3644/black_guy_photoshopped_in.html > > The Onion sucks ass. > http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/09/20/photo.fix.ap/ Aha! What's interesting is that the Onion is basically the SF Weekly of Madison. \spock{fascinating...} -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 7 13:15:52 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Memminger@email.msn.com: NO MAYO] Message-ID: <20001207131552.P1313@zork.net> That didn't take long. 'course, it took longer for me to notice it in my losers inbox. ----- Forwarded message from Memminger <Memminger@email.msn.com> ----- I'm not sure if this is going to the right place, but I am the guy who runs the No Mayo site. I just wanted to thank whoever posted the stuff about the legal battle. For the record, we did win... a large victory for small web sites everywhere! Sorry I haven't updated my page for a while. Aloha and thanks for the support, Charles Memminger President Worldwide I Hate Mayonnaise Club ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From geoperry at iww.org Thu Dec 7 14:33:23 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:39 2005 Subject: Dude (Was: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ) In-Reply-To: <20001207092605.B20790@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012071431410.6711-100000@laser.catch22.com> I'm hoping for your showing @Z, tonight. -g On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Bernard wrote: > Subject: Re: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ > > 07Dec2000 07:24AM (-0800) From [geoperry@iww.org] geoperry [George J.P. Perry] > > Zeitgeist: <http://zeitgeist.citysearch.com/>. > > You are the secret ingredient in Crackmonkey's Stone Soup. > > That one is a golden oldie. !From a lead-bottom'd oldie, no less. From geoperry at iww.org Thu Dec 7 14:35:51 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: Idiot (Was: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb) In-Reply-To: <20001207092701.E1313@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012071434000.6711-100000@laser.catch22.com> He's probably a professor of English, and uses a spell-hasher... -g On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Monkey Master wrote: > Subject: Re: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb > > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > eh hehe > > matching wits with some one as stubborn as me is pointless... > > you win I loose > > your superior intellect has befuddled me, I am in awe. You comments have put > > me on a crusade to the library. > > Ladies and germs, I nominate Arie V. Rosa as Crackmonkey's new > village idiot! Sorry, AaronL, but you've been forked... From silverback at pigdog.org Thu Dec 7 20:21:50 2000 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: Robert Edmonds's message of "Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:33:35 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012051457140.22730-100000@spider.dibona.com> <20001205182601.A5149@stu.ddts.net> <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net> <20001206163335.A1667@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <8766kvr19d.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds <stu@brainfood.com> writes: Hey, do you really eat brains? ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From silverback at pigdog.org Thu Dec 7 20:25:20 2000 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:09:58 -0800" References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> <874s0gt6g3.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001207110958.A23761@zork.net> Message-ID: <871yvjr13j.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> Discard the GUI of the ASCII art and perceive the efficient B> manner in which George-OS can simultaneously reprogram many B> minds with the efficient APL-oriented command line interface. That's FORTH, you acetate-huffing Mole Man. ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From silverback at pigdog.org Thu Dec 7 20:29:28 2000 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "07 Dec 2000 18:51:59 +0000" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: PJC> CPU power is less essential to business than good PJC> communication and storage hardware. Are you trying to IMPLY that Intel is not being ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TRUTHFUL in their general market magazine advertisements!?! Stop the presses! We have a whistleblower who's going to bust this CHARADE wide OPEN! In the movie version, Russel Crowe will play Paul J Collins. ~Mr. Bad -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From silverback at pigdog.org Thu Dec 7 20:32:00 2000 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: The Mighty Silverback's message of "07 Dec 2000 20:29:28 -0800" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87r93jpm7z.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "TMS" == The Mighty Silverback <silverback@pigdog.org> writes: TMS> ~Mr. Bad Or whatever. ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Dec 7 21:46:06 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 08:29:28PM -0800 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001207214606.W28746@zork.net> The Mighty Silverback writes: > In the movie version, Russel Crowe will play Paul J Collins. > > ~Mr. Bad Mr. Bad will play The Mighty Silverback. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From geoperry at iww.org Fri Dec 8 01:59:27 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: Thursday Night Was [Pigdog]/[CrackMonkey] Night at Zeitgeist. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012080144120.8826-100000@laser.catch22.com> Thursday Night was Pigdog/Crackmonkey Night at Zeitgeist. Crackmonkeys: Nick, Elise, Stephanie, Martin, George. Pigdogs: Kris, Nick, Matt, George. Beverage: Four pitchers, and odd pints. Food: there was some food. Weather: cool, but a dry cool... and still. Winter evenings in Frisco are more mild than Summer's. Graffiti of note: recurring hostile intent towards "dot-com scum"... banner-graffiti, advertising <steveisgay.com> (I suppose it pays to advertise). I transported from Pyramid Alehouse in Berkeley to Zeitgeist on autopilot. [sideshow] Pyramid Alehouse is a nice place to visit, but no place for a pigdog/crackmonkey night. Folks not invited to <emf.net>'s way-cool party were waiting on line (not even online, just standing & waiting) to Get In. Parking place for the juggler's jalopy right by the door, on the corner of Duboce & Valencia. "Hi, Elise." Elise has a new job, possibly working at the Bureau of Indian Affairs, or may be for the Apaches. Mark's opportune time, and the mild weather collide in his mind; he wants to rent a motorbike. Stephanie's focused her attention onto high & timely priority: Holiday Parties. Matt came, he drank, he talked, he left. Matt Alexander. Cosmopolitain Man of Mystery. Nick may be on the verge of a great discovery about romantic relationships. If it doesn't kill him, it will be beautiful. Kris... heroic Kris. "Walnut Creek, you say. ?Does he, like, ?work in The City, and ?commute from Walnut Creek... !?what... ?he comes all the way here just for ?pigdog. Gosh." George was so addled & de-mented by the day's adventure & bacchanal, that he pretty-much forgot to take notes; most of his narrative is a blend of speculation, interpolation, extrapolation, and third-person self-referential, ummm... ... above all, though, it was a quiet evening at Zeitgeist. An uneasy quiet. Perhaps we were short of a "critical mass" of Bad Persons. May be the pigdogs & crackmonkeys were unsure of how to relate to each other, and the half-breeds lacked the wit t... ... no. It was just another example of the oppressive weight bearing down upon America's social fabric. We cannot laugh. We cannot breathe. We're paralyzed by uncertainty and dread. ?Who will lead us, after all, into the twenty-first century. ?Mister Trilater-AL Commission. ?Alfred E. Bush. May be we ought to suspend pigdog/crackmonkey nights until we have a Pope. May be we shou... ... may be I'll get some sleep. Thanks for your patience. - George Perry: "Jugger Vain's House of Dung", Frisco Liberation Radio From stu at brainfood.com Fri Dec 8 04:08:29 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: <8766kvr19d.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 08:21:50PM -0800 References: <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net> <20001206163335.A1667@stu.ddts.net> <8766kvr19d.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001208070829.A4914@stu.ddts.net> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 08:21:50PM -0800, The Mighty Silverback wrote: > >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds <stu@brainfood.com> writes: > > Hey, do you really eat brains? only the brains of people who ask us that question. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From silence-crackmonkey at nilpotent.org Fri Dec 8 09:41:52 2000 From: silence-crackmonkey at nilpotent.org (Faried Nawaz) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Re: [Pigdog] Pitching Bronner's Soap Page... check out the spinningglobe In-Reply-To: Ben Brockert's message of "Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:44:07 -0600" References: <3A2F0D4F.6440317A@iastate.edu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012070954550.21010-100000@vax.area.com> <20001207114627.K1313@zork.net> <3A2FF697.3949DB5A@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <m34s0eak05.fsf@localhost.nilpotent.org> Ben Brockert <benb@iastate.edu> writes: Coincidentally, the course catalog run was really small, as the actual students are supposed to look up classes online, rather than on dead tree. The University of Idaho photoshop'd a minority in for their web site pics. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 10:15:44 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] <nettime> Re: The Seventh Myth of Technology Stocks (fwd) In-Reply-To: Robert Edmonds's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 07:08:29 -0500" References: <20001205161100.A28223@zork.net> <20001205192506.A6085@stu.ddts.net> <20001205164212.B28223@zork.net> <20001205164955.C28223@zork.net> <20001205203105.B6465@stu.ddts.net> <20001205211026.U28746@zork.net> <20001206071024.A8736@stu.ddts.net> <20001206114203.C5438@flynn.zork.net> <20001206163335.A1667@stu.ddts.net> <8766kvr19d.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001208070829.A4914@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <87u28eg4of.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds <stu@brainfood.com> writes: RE> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 08:21:50PM -0800, The Mighty Silverback wrote: >> Hey, do you really eat brains? RE> only the brains of people who ask us that question. Don't expect seconds. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 10:17:23 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: The Mighty Silverback's message of "07 Dec 2000 20:25:20 -0800" References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> <874s0gt6g3.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001207110958.A23761@zork.net> <871yvjr13j.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87puj2g4lo.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "TMS" == The Mighty Silverback <silverback@pigdog.org> writes: >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> [...] APL-oriented command line interface. TMS> That's FORTH, you acetate-huffing Mole Man. You're just too lazy to learn how to type all the l33t APL characters. FORTH is a refuge for the APL-incapable. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 10:18:40 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: The Mighty Silverback's message of "07 Dec 2000 20:29:28 -0800" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "TMS" == The Mighty Silverback <silverback@pigdog.org> writes: >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: TMS> Stop the presses! We have a whistleblower who's going to bust TMS> this CHARADE wide OPEN! TMS> In the movie version, Russel Crowe will play Paul J Collins. Russel has declined, and so John Cusack will be cast instead. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 10:35:36 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: Re: cunit] Message-ID: <20001208103536.F31771@zork.net> Oyyy... What have I started? ----- Forwarded message from Christian Holmboe <spotty@codefactory.se> ----- Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:29:56 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Holmboe <spotty@codefactory.se> To: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> Cc: j.c.yip@computer.org Subject: Re: cunit In-Reply-To: <20001207151036.S1313@zork.net> (Jason, I'm ccing this msg to you since I would like your opinion too, but feel free to ignore it if you don't have the time) Nick, First off I'd like to thank you for your research on the subject :) I've put the question to a mailing list as well and got about the same comments as you did. Together with your observations it quite obvious that it is a problem that should be resolved. I've had alot of suggestions for other names (CommUNIsT being one of my favorites :) but keeping to tradition will leave us with different capitalizations : CUnit or cUnit (well there is another one, my gf suggested Cunit but quickly took it back.. :) I think CUnit is taken, so it boils down to 'cUnit'. Do you think cUnit would do the trick? It's by far less obvious even if keeping to tradition will leave the letters in there, preventing us to rid the problem completely as CTest or CUnitTest would. My vote is on cUnit, but I would like to have a second opinion from you. Christian On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > begin Christian Holmboe quotation: > > Thank you for your thoughts, I'm well aware of the name problem.. On > > one hand I wouldn't like users of cunit feel that they had to > > sprikle their code with profanities and on the other hand 'cunit' is > > by tradition *the* name for a C unit testing framework. > > Okay, I asked some folks on a mailing list I run, and this is > the general list of comments: > > - Yes, it's pretty obvious, although it's not deliberately a > bad word so it's probably not worth changing. > - Unix has commands like fsck, mount, etc. There's a long > tradition of sex-and-Unix jokes. > - Counter to that, "cunt" is a far more vulgar term than > "fuck", since it has some rather sexist overtones as well. > (It's one of those words, like "nigger" that I never say out > loud.) > - "Cunt" has some rather noble history, apparently: > http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2000/11/11-17-00tdc/11-17-00dnews-4.asp > - Note the reactions by university officials and students in > above article, however. > > Many people suggested that "c-unit" would make a nice > compromise, but some of the XP folks I spoke to argued that the > canonical name *should* be "cunit". > > One person suggested CommUNIsT and CrUNchIesT as replacement > names, but I think he was just drunkenly grepping through > /usr/share/dict/words. > > > Do you think this is a big enough issue for the english speaking > > users to motivate a name change? I might have difficulties to grasp > > exactly how eye catching the name is to native english speaking > > persons, you can help me with this. > > I'd say it's probably a little less obvious to people than > "fsck" is, but not too much. I think that people run "fsck" all the > time without feeling that they have to type in profanities, so you're > probably fine there. The fact that it's pronounced "see yoo-nit" > should be apparent to anyone who uses it. > > Basically, you're not going to have people who actually think > you named it with a vulgar word, but you'll have quite a few people > doing a double-take and reading it twice to make sure. > > > -- Christian Holmboe spotty at codefactory dot se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)90 - 71 86 10 Cell: +46 (0)70 - 587 90 49 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 10:46:50 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] TNICNaZ In-Reply-To: <871yvjr13j.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 08:25:20PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012070656190.4635-100000@laser.catch22.com> <20001208023743.D31860@aphid.net> <874s0gt6g3.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001207110958.A23761@zork.net> <871yvjr13j.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001208104650.G31771@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org > C oo > _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of > / ~\ Bad People of the Future Hey. Nice monkey! ...or anthropomorphic chipmunk... Say, you're not into "furry", are you.... -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 10:49:22 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87r93jpm7z.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 08:32:00PM -0800 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87r93jpm7z.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001208104922.H31771@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > >>>>> "TMS" == The Mighty Silverback <silverback@pigdog.org> writes: > > TMS> ~Mr. Bad > > Or whatever. > > ~TMS Wait just a St. Louis minute, here! I think I'm beginning to put the clues together on this Silverback person! (Crispin Glover will play me in the movie) -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 11:15:20 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: About Face] Message-ID: <20001208111520.J31771@zork.net> From no less than KIRCK MCKUSICK. Perhaps the House of Dung and the Parliament of Whores will be able to pass legislation. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev@sleepycat.com> Forwarded-by: Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com> NORML Foundation 1001 Connecticut Ave., NW Ste. 710 Washington, DC 20036 202-483-8751 (p) 202-483-0057 (f) www.norml.org foundation@norml.org December 7, 2000 President Clinton States Marijuana Should Be Decriminalized Los Angeles, CA: This week, in an interview in Rolling Stone magazine, President Bill Clinton says he believes people should not be arrested for possessing marijuana. The self-admitted one-time marijuana smoker, who claims he did not inhale, told the magazine which hits newsstands on Friday, "I think that most small amounts of marijuana have been decriminalized in some places, and should be." He added, "We really need a re-examination of our entire policy on imprisonment. Some people deliberately hurt other people and they ought to be in jail because they can't be trusted on the streets. Some people do things that are so serious that they have to be put in jail to discourage other people from doing similar things. But a lot of people are in prison because they have drug problems or alcohol problems and too many of them are getting out, particularly out of state systems, without treatment, without education skills, without serious efforts at job placement." "President Clinton's incredibly belated support for decriminalizing marijuana is a bittersweet moment for marijuana law reform supporters," said Allen St. Pierre, NORML Foundation Executive Director. "On one hand, no less than the president of the United States supports NORML's long-held tenet that responsible adult marijuana smokers shouldn't be arrested. On the other hand, during Clinton's eight-year term in office, we witnessed the largest number of marijuana arrests in our history - over 4,175,357 Americans were arrested on marijuana charges between 1992-99. NORML hopes that President Clinton, like former President Jimmy Carter, will commit his post-presidency to fighting for great social justice causes - such as ending the war on marijuana smokers." St. Pierre continued, "I wonder if Clinton's wife, Senator-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), agrees with her husband's newly stated position on marijuana?" For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Foundation Executive Director at (202) 483-8751. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 11:32:08 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:49:22 -0800" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87r93jpm7z.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001208104922.H31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <87g0jyg153.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> Wait just a St. Louis minute, here! I think I'm beginning to MM> put the clues together on this Silverback person! I wonder if the Lumberjack DJ could shed any further light on the enigma... -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 12:16:23 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Motif bugs now online Message-ID: <878zpqfz3c.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> http://bugs.motifzone.org/ My current favourites: Uil compiler requires Berkeley yacc and breaks with Bison: http://bugs.motifzone.net/long_list.cgi?buglist=1111 "Hey, so what if I didn't malloc this? I'll free it anyway!": http://bugs.motifzone.net/long_list.cgi?buglist=1098 Pitch in folks! Let's all have a good old time! Come on down and laugh at Motif! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 13:56:06 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Move GNOME's core into the kernel Message-ID: <874s0efuh5.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Part one of this plan is already in effect, with ORBit being ported to the kernel[1]; CORBA servers can be written as loadable modules, and the available IORs are exported via /proc/corba. I find this one especially interesting: * Filesystems may be implemented as remote CORBA objects and mounted on the local machine, by using 'mount -t corbafs -o IOR:... none /mnt/corba' But there is of course a flip side: "YOW! I helped RAPH LEVIEN put the CANVAS in the KERNEL to make GUH-NOME more dependent on LINUX!" Refs: [1] http://korbit.sourceforge.net/ (Yeah, sourceBorg again.) Found on LWN[2], which seriously prods buttock. [2] http://lwn.net/daily/korbit.php3 -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm junk, but I'm still holding up this little wild bouquet." From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 8 14:07:12 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy Message-ID: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> Microsoft's campus agreement allows for faculty and staff of an educational institution to buy and bring home copies of Microsoft software for "cheap" -- in the neighborhood of $15. But only for institutional use. The license is explicit that campus agreement-obtained copies are not to be used or purchased for personal use. *blink, blink* pedro From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 14:20:38 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 04:07:12PM -0600 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001208142038.L31771@zork.net> begin Peter A. Peterson II quotation: > The license is explicit that campus agreement-obtained copies are > not to be used or purchased for personal use. Man, I always hate the way they say "personal use" as though we can't figure out what it's about. It's obvious that they just want to smoke it. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they'd be up-front. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 8 14:30:59 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:18:40PM +0000 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001209093059.A1843@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Paul J Collins"> > TMS> In the movie version, Russel Crowe will play Paul J Collins. > > Russel has declined, and so John Cusack will be cast instead. Since when did tastefulness come into this? No, no, no... If the list were the producers, William Shatner or Jim Belushi would be cast. Then there would be disagreement, secret contracts, and we'd pay both anyway. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 14:32:39 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: "Peter A. Peterson II"'s message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:07:12 -0600" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: PAP> Microsoft's campus agreement allows for faculty and staff of PAP> an educational institution to buy and bring home copies of PAP> Microsoft software for "cheap" -- in the neighborhood of $15. PAP> But only for institutional use. Do you have any point beyond that you don't like this? This kind of carry on has been going on for a while; it's one of the carrots that Microsoft uses to establish a hegemony in colleges around the world, their hope being that collegegoers will be so shallow as to take this as generosity, and so blinkered to believe that there is only Microsoft. Having recently met some college graduates, I have to conclude that they are making headway. Further evidence: There is a college here that has a bunch of boxen dualbooting between Windows NT and FreeBSD. On one of the boxes, someone had edited NT's bootloader configuration so that the choices read: Microsoft Windows NT Worksation (The Good Operating System) FreeBSD (The Bad One) In the process, they removed the option that allows one to boot NT with minimal drivers, which is going to make life interesting when someone fucks up the installation. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From stu at brainfood.com Fri Dec 8 14:42:11 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 04:07:12PM -0600 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001208174211.A6696@stu.ddts.net> On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 04:07:12PM -0600, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > Microsoft's campus agreement allows for faculty and staff of an > educational institution to buy and bring home copies of Microsoft > software for "cheap" -- in the neighborhood of $15. scrounge up $300, take home 20 copies, put 'em on ebay a couple at a time with a BuyNow price.. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 14:45:24 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Jeff Waugh's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 09:30:59 +1100" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209093059.A1843@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <87vgsuedmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@aphid.net> writes: JW> <quote who="Paul J Collins"> >> Russel has declined, and so John Cusack will be cast instead. JW> Since when did tastefulness come into this? No, no, no... If JW> the list were the producers, William Shatner or Jim Belushi JW> would be cast. Then there would be disagreement, secret JW> contracts, and we'd pay both anyway. Where did this whole issue of "tastefulness" come from? I sure as fuck-a-doodie didn't mention it. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 8 14:50:52 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208174211.A6696@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:42:11PM -0500 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <20001208174211.A6696@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001208145052.B15026@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:42:11PM -0500, Robert Edmonds wrote: > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 04:07:12PM -0600, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > > Microsoft's campus agreement allows for faculty and staff of an > > educational institution to buy and bring home copies of Microsoft > > software for "cheap" -- in the neighborhood of $15. > > scrounge up $300, take home 20 copies, put 'em on ebay a couple at a > time with a BuyNow price.. Damn, if you're going to come up with lame-ass business plans, at least do a web search: http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2000/5/19/165146/255 Everybody knows that the place to sell copies of "educational license" software is at Robert Austin shows. Damn. -- Don Marti dmarti@linuxjournal.com Technical Editor, Linux Journal 650-962-9601 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 8 15:03:20 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:32:39PM +0000 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Paul J Collins: > Do you have any point beyond that you don't like this? Beyond it being a carrot, it is totally illogical to have two installations of Office, as per their contract. That's the absurdity that apparently the suits don't get. Rick Moen may add here that it's totally illogical to have Office installed _at all_, but I will leave that for someone else to posit. I'm sorry I brought it up. pedro From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 8 15:04:26 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87vgsuedmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:45:24PM +0000 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209093059.A1843@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <87vgsuedmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001209100426.A2466@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Paul J Collins"> > Where did this whole issue of "tastefulness" come from? I sure as > fuck-a-doodie didn't mention it. Says he who chooses John Cusack to play himself. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 8 15:16:08 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <00120818160804.01741@workstation> Did you read the rest of the fine print requireing ALL!!!! students and faculty that attend the school to purchase al license, even if they never intend to or use any microsoft products. This came to ligh a while ago on slashdot and the register. Microsoft will only allow a school which byus licences for every last student and staff. Thay allow no selectiveness in the issue. On Friday 08 December 2000 17:07, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > Microsoft's campus agreement allows for faculty and staff of an > educational institution to buy and bring home copies of Microsoft > software for "cheap" -- in the neighborhood of $15. > > But only for institutional use. > > The license is explicit that campus agreement-obtained copies are not to > be used or purchased for personal use. > > *blink, blink* > > pedro > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 8 15:22:49 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <00120818160804.01741@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:16:08PM -0500 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <00120818160804.01741@workstation> Message-ID: <20001209102249.B2466@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Arie V. Rosa"> > This came to ligh a while ago on slashdot and the register. You will see an obvious error in this sentence. You will also find a typo. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 16:04:17 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Jeff Waugh's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:04:26 +1100" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209093059.A1843@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <87vgsuedmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209100426.A2466@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <87r93ie9z2.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@aphid.net> writes: JW> <quote who="Paul J Collins"> >> Where did this whole issue of "tastefulness" come from? I sure >> as fuck-a-doodie didn't mention it. JW> Says he who chooses John Cusack to play himself. I like his style, and I don't want to be played by a farmer from New Zealand, aight? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 16:13:10 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: "Peter A. Peterson II"'s message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:03:20 -0600" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: PAP> Quoting Paul J Collins: >> Do you have any point beyond that you don't like this? PAP> Beyond it being a carrot, it is totally illogical to have two PAP> installations of Office, as per their contract. You don't mention this, or the requirement for every member of the campus to acquire a license for said software, in your original post. There was no link to anything documenting these facts. PAP> That's the absurdity that apparently the suits don't PAP> get. Whether it's absurd or not is not now an issue for the institutions concerned. They signed a restrictive and unpleasant agreement without any consultation with the people whom it affects. If they don't live to rue the day they did so, I shall be very disappointed. PAP> Rick Moen may add here that it's totally illogical to have PAP> Office installed _at all_, but I will leave that for someone PAP> else to posit. On this subject, is there any decent free wordprocessor available? Some people who use my box want to do reports and things; teaching them a typesetting system is not viable. I've tried AbiWord and both they and I hate it. Alternatives? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 8 16:28:43 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 12:13:10AM +0000 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001208182843.A18484@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Paul J Collins: > >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: > > PAP> Quoting Paul J Collins: > >> Do you have any point beyond that you don't like this? > PAP> Beyond it being a carrot, it is totally illogical to have two > PAP> installations of Office, as per their contract. > > You don't mention this, or the requirement for every member of the > campus to acquire a license for said software, in you in your > original post. Paul, it seemed obvious to me that noone would want to install Office for "institutional work" at home for $15, and a full-price copy for personal use, on the same machine. Additionally, I didn't know about the "one license per user" caveat. That asks some interesting questions. "Is everyone using their license illegally?" "Was the contract misinterpreted?" "Have we wasted too much time on this thread already?" pedro From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 8 16:33:00 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:18:40PM +0000 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001208163300.A26963@zork.net> 08Dec2000 06:18PM (+0000) From [sneakums@sto-kerrig.org] sneakums [Paul J Collins] > >>>>> "TMS" == The Mighty Silverback <silverback@pigdog.org> writes: > > >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: > TMS> Stop the presses! We have a whistleblower who's going to bust > TMS> this CHARADE wide OPEN! > > TMS> In the movie version, Russel Crowe will play Paul J Collins. > > Russel has declined, and so John Cusack will be cast instead. ...with Christopher Walken as understudy. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 8 16:45:36 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: Thursday Night Was [Pigdog]/[CrackMonkey] Night at Zeitgeist. In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012080144120.8826-100000@laser.catch22.com>; from geoperry@iww.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 01:59:27AM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012080144120.8826-100000@laser.catch22.com> Message-ID: <20001208164536.B26963@zork.net> 08Dec2000 01:59AM (-0800) From [geoperry@iww.org] geoperry [George J.P. Perry] > Thursday Night was Pigdog/Crackmonkey Night at Zeitgeist. > > Crackmonkeys: Nick, Elise, Stephanie, Martin, George. I am a bad monkey (and I don't mean BAD). > George was so addled & de-mented by the day's adventure & bacchanal, that > he pretty-much forgot to take notes; most of his narrative is a blend of > speculation, interpolation, extrapolation, and third-person > self-referential, ummm... [Choke] But it was soooo beautiful man.... The whole event comes to light in the narrative. I am waiting for George to turn movie director. Is the world strong enough? > ... may be I'll get some sleep. That was my downfall. I fell asleep at my desk and woke up with a sore neck and a centrifugal filter embedded in my forehead. "I am Amicon of Borg. Prepare to be concentrated." Since I don't want to pick up Nick's old habit of claiming he'd be there and then not turning up (or turning up for a five minute period late in the night and disappearing as soon as someone offered him some mode of transport that would save him from walking) I will not drop hints about my possibility of attendance and then flake out. I owe George beer. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 16:47:29 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 16:33:00 -0800" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208163300.A26963@zork.net> Message-ID: <87d7f2e7z2.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: >> Russel has declined, and so John Cusack will be cast instead. B> ...with Christopher Walken as understudy. This is a movie, not an off-Broadway money-laundering operation. No understudies needed nor wanted. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 17:53:57 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. Message-ID: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> I'm sure you're all on the edge of your seats, here. ----- Forwarded message from Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> ----- begin Christian Holmboe quotation: > First off I'd like to thank you for your research on the subject :) As research projects go, this has definitely been a surreal one. :) I found that "cunit" is also a term among loggers for 100 cubic feet of wood. Apparently it's been a long-standing joke among them as well. (the name comes from the fact that it's a C-unit (a unit of a hundred) as well as a unit in cubic feet) > keeping to tradition will leave us with different capitalizations : > CUnit or cUnit [...] > I think CUnit is taken, so it boils down to 'cUnit'. Hmmm. Is CUnit the win32-centric one? > Do you think cUnit would do the trick? It's by far less obvious > even if keeping to tradition will leave the letters in there, > preventing us to rid the problem completely as CTest or CUnitTest > would. I like it. It solves the problem of providing a visually obvious word-break, while staying true to the naming scheme. In addition, it meets many people's sense of C aesthetics in that most functions should have namesLikeThis(). It is, after all, the function names that users will see most often. > My vote is on cUnit, but I would like to have a second opinion from > you. For what it's worth, it has my vote as well. Not that my country has a good history of counting votes accurately :) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 17:56:41 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] postmaster@microsoft.com is really dumb Message-ID: <20001208175641.P31771@zork.net> How bloody helpful. ----- Forwarded message from System Administrator <postmaster@microsoft.com> ----- Your message To: crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org Subject: Re: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:32:00 -0800 did not reach the following recipient(s): Eric Rachner on Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:35:29 -0800 The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. If it still fails, contact your system administrator. <red-imc-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com #5.0.0> begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(@<%`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V`!``"`````@`"``$) [219 lines of uuencoded GARGARGAR] M0``',""X`M[38,`!0``(,""X`M[38,`!`@'Y#P$````0````DV('9)X%C4JA +A@^??K9EXX%=;:H= ` end ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From joey at kitenet.net Fri Dec 8 17:58:02 2000 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. In-Reply-To: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:53:57PM -0800 References: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001208175802.A22897@kitenet.net> Nick Moffitt wrote: > I'm sure you're all on the edge of your seats, here. Yeah, the great thing is that if cUnit enters Debian it will be "cunit" again. BTW, could you talk on the kernel source next? -- see shy jo From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 17:58:54 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. In-Reply-To: <20001208175802.A22897@kitenet.net>; from joey@kitenet.net on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:58:02PM -0800 References: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> <20001208175802.A22897@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20001208175854.Q31771@zork.net> begin Joey Hess quotation: > Nick Moffitt wrote: > > I'm sure you're all on the edge of your seats, here. > > Yeah, the great thing is that if cUnit enters Debian it will be > "cunit" again. Yeah, but not in the function names. > BTW, could you talk on the kernel source next? excuse me? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From joakim at helixcode.com Fri Dec 8 19:02:20 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 12:13:10AM +0000 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 12:13:10AM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: > >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: > On this subject, is there any decent free wordprocessor available? > Some people who use my box want to do reports and things; teaching > them a typesetting system is not viable. I've tried AbiWord and both > they and I hate it. Alternatives? AbiWord does indeed suck. StarOffice is OpenOffice now, though, and is free. I've not tried the current version myself, although I've used older versions, that were quite usable (a lot better than AbiWord is now). I'm told the version released as OpenOffice works quite well. -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 18:09:24 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com>; from joakim@helixcode.com on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:02:20PM -0600 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> Message-ID: <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net> An interesting take on the subject: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/2742/2/ Now, I've never used DeScribe, but if it's based on the Scribe document preparation system, then it's bound to rock. Scribe is what Lamport based LaTeX on. LaTeX is a set of macros to make the hairy TeX behave somewhatalittlebit like scribe used to. The main difference is that Scribe always said things like "You seem to have two titles for this chapter. Is one the subtitle?", whereas LaTeX spits out "Underfull hbox at 983.23[][][][][][]". Also, have you toyed with LyX? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 18:30:18 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: Joakim Ziegler's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 21:02:20 -0600" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> Message-ID: <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JZ" == Joakim Ziegler <joakim@helixcode.com> writes: JZ> AbiWord does indeed suck. StarOffice is OpenOffice now, JZ> though, and is free. I've not tried the current version JZ> myself, although I've used older versions, that were quite JZ> usable (a lot better than AbiWord is now). I'm told the JZ> version released as OpenOffice works quite well. The last time I tried to give StarOffice a whirl, it was proprietary and a 70 meg download. When I finally got it, the damn thing wanted a very specific version glibc, so I gave up. Does OpenOffice still do that full-screen pretend-Windows deal? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 18:37:25 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The cunit saga -- SURPRISE TWIST! Message-ID: <20001208183725.S31771@zork.net> SHOCK! HORROR! ----- Forwarded message from Jason Che-han Yip <j.c.yip@computer.org> ----- From: "Jason Che-han Yip" <j.c.yip@computer.org> To: "Nick Moffitt" <nick@zork.net>, "Christian Holmboe" <spotty@codefactory.se> Subject: Re: cunit Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 19:36:57 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I just got an empty attachment? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Moffitt" <nick@zork.net> To: "Christian Holmboe" <spotty@codefactory.se> Cc: <j.c.yip@computer.org> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 6:47 PM Subject: Re: cunit ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 18:52:37 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The cunit saga -- SURPRISE TWIST! In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:37:25 -0800" References: <20001208183725.S31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <874s0ee26i.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: NM> SHOCK! HORROR! NM> From: "Jason Che-han Yip" <j.c.yip@computer.org> NM> I just got an empty attachment? Looks like Gnus breakage to me. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 18:53:03 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The cunit saga -- SURPRISE TWIST! In-Reply-To: <874s0ee26i.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 02:52:37AM +0000 References: <20001208183725.S31771@zork.net> <874s0ee26i.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001208185303.V31771@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > Looks like Gnus breakage to me. Er, no. It was outlook. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 19:01:12 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] motds.old Message-ID: <20001208190112.W31771@zork.net> A little trip down memory lane. This time, it's motd.5: oooo . `888 .o8 oooooooo .ooooo. oooo d8b 888 oooo ooo. .oo. .ooooo. .o888oo d'""7d8P d88' `88b `888""8P 888 .8P' `888P"Y88b d88' `88b 888 .d8P' 888 888 888 888888. 888 888 888ooo888 888 .d8P' .P 888 888 888 888 `88b. .o. 888 888 888 .o 888 . d8888888P `Y8bod8P' d888b o888o o888o Y8P o888o o888o `Y8bod8P' "888" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK, things may get hectic, and this system may go down for a couple of days soon. I have formally told Sam that i want all of my personal property back, and that may end up including zork.net as it sits in a server room in Mountain View. I'll be begging and pleading to folks in the Bay Area for a little corner to stash it in, but if anyone knows of a place that will give zork.net a constant connection for a little while, I'd be eternally grateful. (nick) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We're not at all trying to control distribution," countered Sherman. "We're trying to rationalize distribution. We're interested in developing a multi-industry dialog to standardize the protection technology that could be used for the distribution of music in all forms so that it would be an open market on a level playing field for everyone." (RIAA lawyer Cary Sherman on why she's suing MP3 hardware vendor) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- i made the paperclip's nose bleed! (...and i am _not_ getting over it) (spinster) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- nick, happy noodle boy, you're a looney. (spinster) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucky guess! (nick) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mother, Communism is great. Today we learned whittling, and I made a cabin out of popsicle sticks. Everyone says I suck at target practice, but I guess that's just because I'm legally blind. Love, Lee Harvey Oswald (nick) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- O SmtpGreetingMessage=$j Sendmail $v/$Z; $b requiescat in pace Jon B. Postel (schoen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've made that change in my /etc/sendmail.cf, Seth. (nick) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dhd at eradicator.org Fri Dec 8 19:12:18 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 17:53:57 -0800" References: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <871yvie19p.fsf@cepstral.com> Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: > it meets many people's sense of C aesthetics in that most > functions should have namesLikeThis(). It is, after all, the function > names that users will see most often. ... > visually obvious word-break Haven't you read any coding style guildelines not written by brain-damaged Javur weenies? StudlyCaps are, like, so 1994, dude. -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@eradicator.org From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 8 19:17:37 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. In-Reply-To: <871yvie19p.fsf@cepstral.com>; from dhd@eradicator.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:12:18PM -0500 References: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> <871yvie19p.fsf@cepstral.com> Message-ID: <20001208191737.Y31771@zork.net> begin David Huggins-Daines quotation: > Haven't you read any coding style guildelines not written by > brain-damaged Javur weenies? Dude, this isn't *my* style, but it fits. I prefer to capitalize function names, leave variable names uncapitalized, and use underscores in typedefs. > StudlyCaps are, like, so 1994, dude. Yeah, I hear ya. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 19:25:36 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:40 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The cunit saga -- SURPRISE TWIST! In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:53:03 -0800" References: <20001208183725.S31771@zork.net> <874s0ee26i.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208185303.V31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <87zoi6cm33.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Paul J Collins quotation: >> Looks like Gnus breakage to me. MM> Er, no. It was outlook. Gnus has been mangling the odd forward on display for me, but the files in the folder are fine. It does what the thing you posted looked like. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 8 19:35:39 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] CANADIANS RULE!!!! Message-ID: <20001208193539.Z31771@zork.net> Particularly inspired. ----- Forwarded message from Ryan Seangio <cool_digifreak@hotmail.com> ----- To: barfback@pigdog.org Subject: YOU FOOL!! Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:31:29 -0500 CANADIANS RULE!!!! WHAT ARE YOU?? AMERCIAN?? WELL THEY'RE ALL LOSERS!!!YOUR A PSYKOPATHIC FREAK!!!GET A LIFE!!! CANADA STANDAS FOR CANADIANS AND NATIONALS ABSOLUTLY DEDTEST AMERICANS! READ IT BACKWORDA AND ITS AND DREAM ABOUT NUKING AMERICAN CITIZENS!! I AM CANADIAN!!!YOU ARE A LOSER!! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 8 19:36:14 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. In-Reply-To: David Huggins-Daines's message of "08 Dec 2000 22:12:18 -0500" References: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> <871yvie19p.fsf@cepstral.com> Message-ID: <87vgsuclld.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "DH" == David Huggins-Daines <dhd@eradicator.org> writes: DH> StudlyCaps are, like, so 1994, dude. They also make for very dense-looking code that's difficult to read. Try this: if (argc == 2) { config_file_location = argv[1]; L ("main: setting config_file_location = \"%s\"\n", config_file_location); } colour_init (display); dispatcher = dispatcher_new (display); I (dispatcher != NULL); dispatcher_reap_zombies (dispatcher, True); main_window = create_button_box_window (display); if (main_window != None) { create_subwindows (dispatcher, main_window); } apply_shape_to_window (display, main_window); XMapWindow (display, main_window); versus: if (argc == 2) { configFileLocation = argv[1]; L ("main: setting config_file_location = \"%s\"\n", configFileLocation); } ColourInit (display); dispatcher = DispatcherNew (display); I (dispatcher != NULL); DispatcherReapZombies (dispatcher, True); mainWindow = CreateButtonBoxWindow (display); if (main_window != None) { CreateSubwindows (dispatcher, mainWindow); } ApplyShapeToWindow (display, mainWindow); XMapWindow (display, mainWindow); Well, it looks denser to me, anyway. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From joakim at helixcode.com Fri Dec 8 22:47:21 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 02:30:18AM +0000 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001209004721.Q21071@helixcode.com> On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 02:30:18AM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: >> Joakim Ziegler <joakim@helixcode.com> writes: >> AbiWord does indeed suck. StarOffice is OpenOffice now, >> though, and is free. I've not tried the current version >> myself, although I've used older versions, that were quite >> usable (a lot better than AbiWord is now). I'm told the >> version released as OpenOffice works quite well. > The last time I tried to give StarOffice a whirl, it was proprietary > and a 70 meg download. When I finally got it, the damn thing wanted a > very specific version glibc, so I gave up. It should be a lot better now. From what I hear, there are binary packages available for most distros and whatnot. > Does OpenOffice still do that full-screen pretend-Windows deal? I don't know. If it does, it won't for much longer, since that's fundamentally incompatible with the GNOME way of doing things. -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 8 21:59:45 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 02:30:18AM +0000 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Paul J Collins"> > Does OpenOffice still do that full-screen pretend-Windows deal? Yes, but they're planning to remove it last time I heard. I wonder if they have a BTS to lodge this on... - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From aaronl at vitelus.com Fri Dec 8 22:04:54 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au>; from jdub@aphid.net on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 04:59:45PM +1100 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <20001208220454.A1782@vitelus.com> On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 04:59:45PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > <quote who="Paul J Collins"> > > > Does OpenOffice still do that full-screen pretend-Windows deal? > > > Yes, but they're planning to remove it last time I heard. I wonder if they > have a BTS to lodge this on... Are you smoking crack? When I downloaded the initial release of OpenOffice it did not have this absurd full-screen crap. It still sucked though. From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 8 22:17:12 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au>; from jdub@aphid.net on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 04:59:45PM +1100 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <20001209171712.E10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Jeff Waugh"> > <quote who="Paul J Collins"> > > > Does OpenOffice still do that full-screen pretend-Windows deal? > > Yes No! They had it ready *before* the initial code release. (Surely we're going to TLA this soon enough... "How's your ICR going? Six months since the announcement already...") - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 8 22:35:16 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:09:24PM -0800 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001208223516.S20778@linuxmafia.com> begin Monkey Master quotation: > An interesting take on the subject: > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/2742/2/ > > Now, I've never used DeScribe, but if it's based on the Scribe > document preparation system, then it's bound to rock. It doesn't really rock, but it does vibrate noticeably. The thing is a bit DTP/frame oriented, and is generally a nice pre-press graphical thing. I've tried to buy the rights, in order to open-source it myself, but the current owners are sitting on them. Thus, DeScribe is currently useful to me only as an object lesson in why you don't want your data to be held hostage to a proprietary application. (I have a bunch of stored DeScribe documents on disk that I can no longer read.) -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From joey at kitenet.net Fri Dec 8 23:14:34 2000 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] the cunit saga continues. In-Reply-To: <20001208175854.Q31771@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 05:58:54PM -0800 References: <20001208175357.O31771@zork.net> <20001208175802.A22897@kitenet.net> <20001208175854.Q31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001208231434.E22897@kitenet.net> Monkey Master wrote: > begin Joey Hess quotation: > > Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > I'm sure you're all on the edge of your seats, here. > > > > Yeah, the great thing is that if cUnit enters Debian it will be > > "cunit" again. > > Yeah, but not in the function names. > > > BTW, could you talk on the kernel source next? > > excuse me? s/talk/start/ -- see shy jo From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 8 23:30:05 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:49:22 -0800" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87r93jpm7z.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001208104922.H31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <87k89a832a.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> (Crispin Glover will play me in the movie) Dju see "Charlie's Angels"? Crispin Glover was GREAT! He has kung-fu moves like Action Man! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 8 23:31:53 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "08 Dec 2000 18:18:40 +0000" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <87g0jy82za.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: PJC> Russel has declined, and so John Cusack will be cast instead. You suck. There was a whistleblower movie recently starring Russell whoozit and Al Pacino. John Cusack only plays bratty man-childs. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 8 23:35:42 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: Jeff Waugh's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:59:45 +1100" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <87bsum82sx.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@aphid.net> writes: JW> Yes, but they're planning to remove it last time I heard. I JW> wonder if they have a BTS to lodge this on... It's gone now. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jdub at aphid.net Sat Dec 9 00:07:11 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87g0jy82za.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:31:53PM -0800 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87g0jy82za.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001209190711.A13729@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Mr . Bad"> > There was a whistleblower movie recently starring Russell whoozit and > Al Pacino. John Cusack only plays bratty man-childs. Bugger off! What about Grosse Pointe-- oh. Or High Fideli-- um. Being John Malkovich for chriss-- ah. Pushing Tin! Oh, wait a second... Damn, you have a point there (and they're only the big ones). - Jeff (who won't mention Thin Red Line at this point.) -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 9 00:11:42 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: <87k89a832a.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:30:05PM -0800 References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87r93jpm7z.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001208104922.H31771@zork.net> <87k89a832a.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001209001142.A31771@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: > > MM> (Crispin Glover will play me in the movie) > > Dju see "Charlie's Angels"? Crispin Glover was GREAT! He has kung-fu > moves like Action Man! And with a techno beat that *I* can really bug out to! He had mucho kung-fu grip! That is why he will play me in the movie. And they had the best christmas ever. The end. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 9 00:14:30 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208223516.S20778@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:35:16PM -0800 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net> <20001208223516.S20778@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001209001430.B31771@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > (I have a bunch of stored DeScribe documents on disk that I can no > longer read.) That answers my question, as Scribe was the very model of human legibility. TeXinfo is actually another attempt to make TeX kind of scribish, now that I think about it. Of course, both TeXinfo and LaTeX fail to do this. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 9 00:15:12 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <20001208220454.A1782@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 10:04:54PM -0800 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <20001208220454.A1782@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20001209001512.C31771@zork.net> begin Aaron Lehmann quotation: > It [...] sucked SHOCK! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 9 04:08:12 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Intel is really dumb In-Reply-To: Mr.Bad's message of "08 Dec 2000 23:31:53 -0800" References: <00120710575204.01213@workstation> <87zoi8rrn4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87wvdbpmc7.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87lmtqg4jj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87g0jy82za.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87bsul7q6r.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> writes: B> There was a whistleblower movie recently starring Russell B> whoozit and Al Pacino. "The Insider". Yes, I know about it. B> John Cusack only plays bratty man-childs. Perfect! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 9 04:10:10 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:14:30 -0800" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net> <20001208223516.S20778@linuxmafia.com> <20001209001430.B31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <877l597q3h.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> TeXinfo is actually another attempt to make TeX kind of MM> scribish, now that I think about it. MM> Of course, both TeXinfo and LaTeX fail to do this. Texinfo has a further advantage in that you can directly generate online documentation with it, whereas LaTeX is a full-on "get it on paper and make it look good" system. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 9 04:11:29 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: Aaron Lehmann's message of "Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:04:54 -0800" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <20001208220454.A1782@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <873dfx7q1a.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AL" == Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com> writes: AL> When I downloaded the initial release of OpenOffice it did not AL> have this absurd full-screen crap. It still sucked though. I trust you have filed detailed bug reports. Otherwise, shut up and fuck off. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From dhd at eradicator.org Sat Dec 9 08:15:53 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "09 Dec 2000 12:11:29 +0000" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <878zpqe37p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209165945.D10311@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <20001208220454.A1782@vitelus.com> <873dfx7q1a.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <873dfxlgee.fsf@cepstral.com> Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: > >>>>> "AL" == Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com> writes: > > AL> When I downloaded the initial release of OpenOffice it did not > AL> have this absurd full-screen crap. It still sucked though. > > I trust you have filed detailed bug reports. Otherwise, shut up and > fuck off. "Otherwise"? You're far too kind. -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@eradicator.org From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Dec 9 09:39:35 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: <877l597q3h.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 12:10:10PM +0000 References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net> <20001208223516.S20778@linuxmafia.com> <20001209001430.B31771@zork.net> <877l597q3h.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001209093935.D31771@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > MM> TeXinfo is actually another attempt to make TeX kind of > MM> scribish, now that I think about it. > > Texinfo has a further advantage in that you can directly generate > online documentation with it, whereas LaTeX is a full-on "get it on > paper and make it look good" system. Yeah, but TeXinfo just does documentation, really. It's only suited to booklike things. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Sat Dec 9 10:02:28 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The EXCITING CONCLUSION. Message-ID: <20001209100228.E31771@zork.net> Far removed from the squalid villiage below, they fight their petty battles over power and money... ----- Forwarded message from Christian Holmboe <spotty@codefactory.se> ----- On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > begin Christian Holmboe quotation: > > First off I'd like to thank you for your research on the subject :) > > As research projects go, this has definitely been a surreal > one. :) > > I found that "cunit" is also a term among loggers for 100 > cubic feet of wood. Apparently it's been a long-standing joke among > them as well. (the name comes from the fact that it's a C-unit (a > unit of a hundred) as well as a unit in cubic feet) > > > keeping to tradition will leave us with different capitalizations : > > CUnit or cUnit > [...] > > I think CUnit is taken, so it boils down to 'cUnit'. > > Hmmm. Is CUnit the win32-centric one? > Yes, i guess so. The CUnit I was thinking of (and the only one I know of) is Andrew Wall's creation posted on http://www.xprogramming.com/software.htm. This is actually the only place Ive seen it mentioned and there is no reference to a 'official site' in the distrubution package. I get the feel of "public domian snippet" rather than a supported test framework. So it might not be a problem if Id like to adopt the name 'CUnit', but I like cUnit better. > > Do you think cUnit would do the trick? It's by far less obvious > > even if keeping to tradition will leave the letters in there, > > preventing us to rid the problem completely as CTest or CUnitTest > > would. > > I like it. It solves the problem of providing a visually > obvious word-break, while staying true to the naming scheme. In > addition, it meets many people's sense of C aesthetics in that most > functions should have namesLikeThis(). It is, after all, the function > names that users will see most often. My thoughts exactly. > > > My vote is on cUnit, but I would like to have a second opinion from > > you. > > For what it's worth, it has my vote as well. Not that my > country has a good history of counting votes accurately :) > lol, you've had some good practice thou lately.. :) I can take it upon me to count the votes if you dont feel up to it.. :) Thank you both for your time and thoughts. It seems that cunit -> cUnit. (not that big of a change if you look at the words side by side.. :) Christian -- Christian Holmboe spotty at codefactory dot se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)90 - 71 86 10 Cell: +46 (0)70 - 587 90 49 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Dec 9 10:40:14 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] new microsoft idiocy In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sat, 9 Dec 2000 09:39:35 -0800" References: <20001208160712.N10220@flynn.zork.net> <87zoi6ee7s.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208170320.E18076@flynn.zork.net> <87n1e6e9k9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001208210220.P21071@helixcode.com> <20001208180924.R31771@zork.net> <20001208223516.S20778@linuxmafia.com> <20001209001430.B31771@zork.net> <877l597q3h.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001209093935.D31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <8766kt8mlt.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> Yeah, but TeXinfo just does documentation, really. Jeez, man. JUST documentation. So sad! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at namodn.com Sat Dec 9 14:44:58 2000 From: nick at namodn.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The EXCITING CONCLUSION. In-Reply-To: <20001209100228.E31771@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 10:02:28AM -0800 References: <20001209100228.E31771@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001209144458.I24660@claire.namodn.com> On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 10:02:28AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > cunit -> cUnit > Once again, your friendly "helpfullness" masks your underlying christian moral crusade. I hope your happy! Others might be so blind as to not see it! But I'm on to you Moffit! I've got your number! -- - Nick Jennings smtp: nick@namodn.com http: nick.namodn.com - From nutella at zork.net Sat Dec 9 20:10:51 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The EXCITING CONCLUSION. In-Reply-To: <20001209144458.I24660@claire.namodn.com>; from nick@namodn.com on Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 02:44:58PM -0800 References: <20001209100228.E31771@zork.net> <20001209144458.I24660@claire.namodn.com> Message-ID: <20001209201051.A24130@zork.net> 09Dec2000 02:44PM (-0800) From [nick@namodn.com] nick [Nick Jennings] > On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 10:02:28AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > > cunit -> cUnit > > > > Once again, your friendly "helpfullness" masks your underlying > christian moral crusade. I hope your happy! Next project: renaming fsck Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 10 11:22:47 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] The Turkish Wizard of Oz Message-ID: <20001210112247.B11926@zork.net> http://www.filmthreat.com/Reviews.asp?File=ReviewsOne.inc&Id=1402 THE TURKISH WIZARD OF OZ by Phil Hall 2000, Un-rated, 96min, Shocking Videos (11/29/2000) "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" is, without debate, the single stupidest production in the history of motion pictures...and also the most entertaining. This 1971 endeavor, which is only now being released in the US courtesy of a small West Virginia company called Shocking Videos (shockingvideos@citynet.net), offers an enchiridion of cinematic insanity which boggles the mind, tickles the funnybone, and damages the brain cells. Not unlike the rediscovery of "Reefer Madness" in the 1960s and the Ed Wood oeuvre in the 1970s, this is a buried treasure which comes to light with unparalleled dizziness and deserves to be hailed as a new cult classic awaiting popular coronation. Working on the most preposterous foundation imaginable -- a no-budget, alfresco, Turkish-language remake of the 1939 MGM classic -- "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" (also known as "Little Ayse and the Magic Dwarves") blossoms into wholly unexpected and truly astonishing situations and sequences which happily shove the L. Frank Baum source text through the meat grinder while leaving the audience gaping in shock and (for those who loved demented movies) rapture. The film finds Dorothy, called Ayse here, as a happy farm girl with a cute dog who gets carried away in her house by a violent twister (depicted in excessively crude animation. The house lands on a witch wearing silver slippers (it would seem they don't wear ruby slippers in Turkey) which conveniently fit Dorothy's tootsies. Whereas the Kansas Dorothy found herself in Munchkinland, the Turkish Dorothy finds herself in a wooded park where seven midgets dressed like toy soldiers sing and dance around her. The midgets have magical powers which allow them to disappear and re-appear whenever the going gets sticky...and speaking of sticky, one of the midgets waves a phallic magic wand to conduct some heroic hocus-pocus. Dorothy and Toto skip around a forest (no Yellow Brick Road here, just lots of nicely manicured lawns) and encounter the usual suspects, albeit with rather unusual changes in their personalities. The Scarecrow runs amok in a prissy personality that suggests the fussy old stereotype of a homosexual, although he is allowed an intensely brooding lament on his lack of brains with a soul-search that recalls Marlon Brando's "I coulda been a contender" soliloquy from "On the Waterfront." The Tin Woodsman is found rusting and moaning in a strangely orgiastic manner and his humorless demeanor throughout the film suggests an inept cop who is furious that he can't fill his speeding ticket quota. The Cowardly Lion has relatively little to do here but twitch his nose, and the costume designer oddly covered his loins with an excess of fur that suggests the craven feline has a vagina. In case you are wondering where the Wicked Witch is, she doesn't turn up until an hour into the film blowing into a shofar. The Wizard himself, dressed like Merlin with a Gregg Allman hairstyle and shaggy mustache, also has the briefest of supporting performances and his balloon-ride departure from Oz accompanied by a Dixieland jazz rendition of "Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight." Speaking of music, "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" abruptly breaks into clumsy song-and-dance numbers which are not helped by the obvious lack of singing and dancing talent among the cast; the score is somewhere between a Maurice Jarre knock-off and "Uska Dara." A village of overgrown dolls and a tribe of dancing cavemen are also featured here, for no immediately obvious reason. What seems like a total fiasco is actually a goldmine of the unpredictable. "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" is so excessively strange and shoots off into the most unlikely tangents that the well-worn tale is given an eccentric second life. The MGM film version has become so deeply ingrained in the cultural psyche that any notion of a remake would pale in comparison. But "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" is not a remake--it is truly a rip-off, but one that is so unapologetic in its attitude and totally naive in its wacky twist of Baum that it plays like a jolly yet shabby doppelganger to the 1939 classic. Sequences where the Scarecrow is disemboweled so Dorothy can hide from the witch in a pile of straw, or when the Tin Woodsman is clubbed to near-death by soldiers swinging oversized boulders, or when the magic midgets fire a cannon at the dancing cavemen and spend five minutes laughing at their carnage brings a Tex Avery-morphed into-John Waters sense of nuttiness to the story which cannot be underappreciated. Most amazing, though, is the leading lady. As Dorothy, Zeynep Degirmencioglu comes on screen with supple breasts and painted eyebrows that suggest Turkish farmgirls have far more glamour than their Kansas counterparts. Throughout the film, the magic midgets are constantly pinching and ogling her, and even Toto gets into the act by jumping up under her dress. Dorothy also engages in some bottom-play with the Scarecrow, sewing up a hole in his rear end after he sits on a fire (but the silly Scarecrow only has eyes for the Tin Woodsman, with one of the most amazing flirting scenes ever put on film!) Forget Judy Garland...any guy who wants to have a hot time over the rainbow can hang out with the comely Miss Degirmenciouglu. Believe it or else, "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" is not presented in its belated US release with English subtitles. This is actually a blessing, since there is no need whatsoever for a translation. "The Turkish Wizard of Oz" speaks the universal language of silliness so fluently that subtitles would only be a serious intrusion in this crazy Oz-by-way-of-Istanbul adventure. This film takes the cake and the whole bakery, too! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 10 21:13:06 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... Message-ID: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from El Snatcher <snatcher@pigdog.org> ----- Why I became an Emacs user Or, My long arduous journey to the One True Editor http://www.messengers-of-messiah.org/~csebold/emacs/why.phtml Jake -- .^....^. "I don't like the feel of ! .\/. ! [the sun] on my skin." (. oo .) --Christopher Walken `{""}' ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From benb at iastate.edu Mon Dec 11 00:15:55 2000 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from El Snatcher <snatcher@pigdog.org> ----- What percentage of crackmonkey subscribers must join pigdog for you to stop forwarding stuff from it? Ben From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 11 10:15:33 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Better put the kettle on. Message-ID: <20001211101533.D11926@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev@sleepycat.com> Forwarded-by: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com> NEW SCIENTIST WEEKLY NEWSLETTER No 63, 9 December 2000 If you thought War and Peace was hard work, don't become a patent examiner. Now that biotechnology is big business, all those sheep cloners and gene sequencers out there want to protect their inventions with a patent. No problem so far. But when you get to writing out your patent application, the sequence part of it (you know, AATTTAGGCATTAAG etc.) tends to go on a bit. The World Intellectual Property Organization has already had a few dozen patent applications of more than a thousand pages, but those were just a warm-up. A drug company has warned WIPO that it is about to receive a couple more, each more than 140,000 pages long. Better put the kettle on. http://www.newscientist.com/nl/1209/patently.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 11 10:36:12 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: Ben Brockert's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:15:55 -0600" References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <87ofyi6c0z.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "BB" == Ben Brockert <benb@iastate.edu> writes: BB> What percentage of crackmonkey subscribers must join pigdog BB> for you to stop forwarding stuff from it? A few days ago, the percentage required rose by a certain amount. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Dec 11 10:56:10 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Better put the kettle on. In-Reply-To: <20001211101533.D11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:15:33AM -0800 References: <20001211101533.D11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211105609.F22156@zgp.org> On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:15:33AM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > than a thousand pages, but those were just a warm-up. A drug company > has warned WIPO that it is about to receive a couple more, each more > than 140,000 pages long. Better put the kettle on. Most of these gene patents are on stuff that exists in nature anyway, and that the "inventors" only barely understand. It's like geologists drilling for a core sample, finding coal somewhere in it, and patenting the core. -- Don Marti dmarti@linuxjournal.com Technical Editor, Linux Journal 650-962-9601 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From nutella at zork.net Mon Dec 11 13:29:25 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:15:55AM -0600 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> 11Dec2000 02:15AM (-0600) From [benb@iastate.edu] benb [Ben Brockert] > Nick Moffitt wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from El Snatcher <snatcher@pigdog.org> ----- > > What percentage of crackmonkey subscribers must join pigdog for you to > stop forwarding stuff from it? Ah, some plagiarist is trying to break out of the recursion. So now we have; Bernard complains[1] about Nick posting copies from Pigdog posting copies from Slashdot which is Generally crap Nick complaining[2] about Bernard complaining[1][2] Ben copying Bernard complaining[1] So, Nick, we now need you to complain about Ben copying me, or for that more avant garde approach you can complain about yourself. ...and Ben, Nick is *my* GAR target. Find your own. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 11 13:32:32 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:29:25PM -0800 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211133232.G11926@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: [39 lines of gargargar] Crime! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From katyc at ilm.com Mon Dec 11 14:46:04 2000 From: katyc at ilm.com (Katy Calbreath) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Cracked Out French Food Message-ID: <200012112246.OAA09093@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Which is better: Piaf's or Absinthe? I need a nice restaurant close to the Ballet. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Mon Dec 11 15:01:50 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Cracked Out French Food In-Reply-To: Katy Calbreath's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:46:04 -0800 (PST)" References: <200012112246.OAA09093@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Message-ID: <87n1e2h89t.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "KC" == Katy Calbreath <katyc@ilm.com> writes: KC> Which is better: Piaf's or Absinthe? I need a nice restaurant KC> close to the Ballet. Cafe Della Stelle. It's the best! Casual Italian, corner of Hayes and Gough. The food is muy bueno, as they say in Italy. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Mon Dec 11 15:04:02 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Cracked Out French Food In-Reply-To: Katy Calbreath's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:46:04 -0800 (PST)" References: <200012112246.OAA09093@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Message-ID: <87itoqh865.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "KC" == Katy Calbreath <katyc@ilm.com> writes: KC> Which is better: Piaf's or Absinthe? Also, Absinthe is intolerable. The fact that the place is named "Absinthe" and they have no absinthe whatsoever is despicable. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Dec 11 15:12:59 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:29:25PM -0800 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211151259.D16209@linuxmafia.com> Moffitt ubiquitous Waxes crackmonkeley Spreading his world-famous gar far and wide. Pigdog material, Paradimensional, Seeps through black holes to spread pique on this side. -- Rick (running a fever, and it shows) Moen From nutella at zork.net Mon Dec 11 16:12:15 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <20001211151259.D16209@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 03:12:59PM -0800 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> <20001211151259.D16209@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001211161215.A11002@zork.net> 11Dec2000 03:12PM (-0800) From [rick@linuxmafia.com] rick [Rick Moen] > Moffitt ubiquitous > Waxes crackmonkeley > Spreading his world-famous gar far and wide. > Pigdog material, > Paradimensional, > Seeps through black holes to spread pique on this side. > > -- Rick (running a fever, and it shows) Moen Big Rick Moen suffers Fever shows through poetry He neglected zinc Take essential zinc Or you too will suffer and Go from BAD to verse Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From nick at namodn.com Mon Dec 11 16:14:19 2000 From: nick at namodn.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <20001211133232.G11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:32:32PM -0800 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> <20001211133232.G11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211161418.F18230@claire.namodn.com> On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 01:32:32PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > Crime! > Go to Hell! All of you! -- - Nick Jennings smtp: nick@namodn.com http: nick.namodn.com - From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 11 16:19:44 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <20001211161215.A11002@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:12:15PM -0800 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> <20001211151259.D16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001211161215.A11002@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211161944.I11926@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > Big Rick Moen suffers BZZZT! Mo-en, boy. Not "Moan". -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 11 16:23:07 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:12:15 -0800" References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> <20001211151259.D16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001211161215.A11002@zork.net> Message-ID: <87snnu1o9g.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> Big Rick Moen suffers B> Fever shows through poetry B> He neglected zinc B> Take essential zinc B> Or you too will suffer and B> Go from BAD to verse Bernard chips in with A haiku of similar style. Fevered too? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 11 18:49:26 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: cunit -> cUnit] Message-ID: <20001211184926.K11926@zork.net> Man oh man. So it actually happened. What's worse, this whole fiasco happened on a number of mailing lists as well. ----- Forwarded message from Christian Holmboe <spotty@codefactory.se> ----- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:18:26 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Holmboe <spotty@codefactory.se> To: extremeprogramming@egroups.com Cc: nick@zork.net Subject: cunit -> cUnit cunit has changed name to cUnit. After observing the '[ANN] cunit' thread last week and corresponding to a number of people on the subject I've come to the conclusion that the mere fact that the similarity issue exists motivates a name change. Most people doesn't have a problem with 'cunit' but I don't want users that do feel that they have to sprinkle their source with potential profanities.. The url is now: http://www.codefactory.se/~spotty/cUnit (the old url will work, but is regarded as obsolete) Thank you Nick, Jason, Erik and all other ppl that have shared their thoughts and ideas! Happy hacking Christian -- Christian Holmboe spotty at codefactory dot se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)90 - 71 86 10 Cell: +46 (0)70 - 587 90 49 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From joakim at helixcode.com Mon Dec 11 20:01:09 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: cunit -> cUnit] In-Reply-To: <20001211184926.K11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 06:49:26PM -0800 References: <20001211184926.K11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211220109.O2818@helixcode.com> On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 06:49:26PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Man oh man. So it actually happened. What's worse, this > whole fiasco happened on a number of mailing lists as well. So, who's game for starting a project to make a c unit testing suite? I'm thinking of calling it "cunt". -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From nutella at zork.net Mon Dec 11 19:31:50 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Pigdog] One man's journey to Emacs... In-Reply-To: <20001211161944.I11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:19:44PM -0800 References: <20001210211306.C11926@zork.net> <3A348D3A.60CB9D4F@iastate.edu> <20001211132925.A7672@zork.net> <20001211151259.D16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001211161215.A11002@zork.net> <20001211161944.I11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001211193150.B15122@zork.net> 11Dec2000 04:19PM (-0800) From [monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org] monkeymaster [Monkey Master] > begin Bernard quotation: > > Big Rick Moen suffers > > BZZZT! Mo-en, boy. Not "Moan". I knew that. Honest. The "Big" was simply a malformed (and totally silent) attitude modifier. ...and I know how much you hate to have HTML in posts. or; Due to Rick's fevered condition I was using a pun on "moan". Congratulations on spotting it. or; $RandomExcuse $PersonalAttack $NonSequitur Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From chris at dibona.com Mon Dec 11 23:15:24 2000 From: chris at dibona.com (Chris J. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Cracked Out French Food In-Reply-To: <200012112246.OAA09093@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012112314580.26845-100000@spider.dibona.com> Zuni. Not french, but tasty, not exceptionally close. Chris > Which is better: Piaf's or Absinthe? > > I need a nice restaurant close to the Ballet. > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From silverback at pigdog.org Tue Dec 12 10:28:45 2000 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... Message-ID: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> ...but you don't like using proprietary software, take heart! I've got a Debian package for a patched Kaffe (Free Software Java VM) right here: http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/kaffe_1.0.6-2_i386.deb It works just GREAT with the Freenet Debian package, which is right here: http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/freenet_0.3.5.20001130-5_all.deb Everything GPL! Huzzah! So check it out now, funk soul brother! ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 10:42:40 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:28:45AM -0800 References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001212104240.R11926@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > ...but you don't like using proprietary software, take heart! I've > got a Debian package for a patched Kaffe (Free Software Java VM) > right here: Do you think you could build us some potato packages there, cowboy? I get version conflicts on libc6, libgmp3, and fucking XLIBS. Since you have no packages.gz or whatever, I can't just apt-get source the thing and build it meself. If you have no potato boxen around, you could always build on zork. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 10:43:13 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:28:45AM -0800 References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001212104313.S11926@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > It works just GREAT with the Freenet Debian package, which is right > here: So do you have freenet running as its own user? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Dec 12 10:48:25 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:28:45AM -0800 References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001212104825.D11167@zgp.org> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:28:45AM -0800, The Mighty Silverback wrote: > Everything GPL! Huzzah! So check it out now, funk soul brother! rm -rf /usr/local/lib/IBMJava2-13 && freenet_request gpl.txt -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 12 10:51:45 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: cunit -> cUnit] In-Reply-To: Joakim Ziegler's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:01:09 -0600" References: <20001211184926.K11926@zork.net> <20001211220109.O2818@helixcode.com> Message-ID: <87lmtl79ry.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JZ" == Joakim Ziegler <joakim@helixcode.com> writes: JZ> So, who's game for starting a project to make a c unit testing JZ> suite? I'm thinking of calling it "cunt". But people might get offended. Call it c-unt instead. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 10:51:52 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: <20001212104825.D11167@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:48:25AM -0800 References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001212104825.D11167@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001212105152.U11926@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > rm -rf /usr/local/lib/IBMJava2-13 && freenet_request gpl.txt He repents! Beaujolais! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 10:52:16 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spotty@codefactory.se: cunit -> cUnit] In-Reply-To: <87lmtl79ry.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 06:51:45PM +0000 References: <20001211184926.K11926@zork.net> <20001211220109.O2818@helixcode.com> <87lmtl79ry.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001212105216.V11926@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > >>>>> "JZ" == Joakim Ziegler <joakim@helixcode.com> writes: > > JZ> So, who's game for starting a project to make a c unit testing > JZ> suite? I'm thinking of calling it "cunt". > > But people might get offended. Call it c-unt instead. Nonono: "cUnt" -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at namodn.com Tue Dec 12 12:01:42 2000 From: nick at namodn.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: <20001212104240.R11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:42:40AM -0800 References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001212104240.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001212120142.A10427@claire.namodn.com> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:42:40AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > Do you think you could build us some potato packages there, > cowboy? I get version conflicts on libc6, libgmp3, and fucking XLIBS. > Fucking potato weenie, why don't you get some balls on you and use woody. You Fuckass! -- - Nick Jennings smtp: nick@namodn.com http: nick.namodn.com - From jdub at aphid.net Tue Dec 12 12:13:26 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: <20001212120142.A10427@claire.namodn.com>; from nick@namodn.com on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 12:01:42PM -0800 References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001212104240.R11926@zork.net> <20001212120142.A10427@claire.namodn.com> Message-ID: <20001213071325.E3391@aphid.net> <quote who="Nick Jennings"> > Fucking potato weenie, why don't you get some balls on you and > use woody. You Fuckass! And I note: User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Namodn - http://www.namodn.com X-OS-Type: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 "Fuckarse." (Spelled correctly too, mind.) - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I get my kicks above the .sigline, sunshine. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Dec 12 13:20:08 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Hey kids! Message-ID: <20001212132008.A15567@zgp.org> Hey kids! Puppet show! http://www.aian.com.au/puppetry/puppetry.html -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 13:29:23 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Hey kids! In-Reply-To: <20001212132008.A15567@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 01:20:08PM -0800 References: <20001212132008.A15567@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001212132923.A11926@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > Hey kids! Puppet show! > http://www.aian.com.au/puppetry/puppetry.html Let's all sign up for the MAILING LIST! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From christine at dibona.com Tue Dec 12 14:52:25 2000 From: christine at dibona.com (Christine M. DiBona) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Cracked Out French Food In-Reply-To: <200012112246.OAA09093@unagi.lucasdigital.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012121434080.13819-100000@spider.dibona.com> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Katy Calbreath wrote: > Which is better: Piaf's or Absinthe? > > I need a nice restaurant close to the Ballet Who's paying? If you or your host has (semi-)deep pockets, make a reservation at Jardiniere. They're very close to that whole performing arts area. Probably the best French restaurant in town AND they are used to people dining under the duress of curtain times. Things that are cool about Jardinere: 1) Chef is a woman (yes, that matters to me) 2) The professionalism of the waiters - nearly attitude-free 3) Rich yet delicate, delicious French-based food that isn't boring or heavy If you decide to go there, and have trouble getting a reservation, let me know as an old friend is the GM. Or there is always the option of cocktails and some food at the bar, a nice inexpensive way for just two to soak up some cosmopolitan atmosphere. Christine DiBona From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 12 17:04:25 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? Message-ID: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> WHat the FUCK is that ASCII art thing at the bottom? These crazy Austrians sure say some WACKY stuff! ----- Forwarded message from Announcer <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> ----- Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 23:33:39 +0100 From: itch <cs@t0.or.at> Subject: betazine 6% Last login: Wed Sep 20 05:21:12 +0200 (MEZ) Betazine 7.1-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Sat Dec 9 23:04:37 +0200 (MEZ) Welcome to http://betazine.org/ Enjoy dual language-mode! We have new content. $ sound ~*nu face: http://pilot.fm ../vis/lan:eng/ $ txt ~*uebermarkt ../txt/lan:ger/ ~*viennale 2k ../txt/lan:ger/ ~*reaclaim the landschaft ../txt/lan:ger/ ~*29nu austrian observations ../txt/lan:dual/ $ links ~*42nu links ../txt/lan:dual/ $ index ~*quickref ~*public key $ service ~*VIE culture as usual ../lan:dual/ Pr3f3rcmyk? $ The Rise & Fall of an Empire. ~*feb 1, 4 & 8 2k+1. ~*k/haus passage VIE D!2cl4m3r. $ Sorry for crossposts. $ Pls reply to unsubscribe if not list. __________ _- __ \ _- / - ( 0 )/ / _. __ | | / | |\ | / /? /| | / ( _/#| \/_/ _---###| `------###$&#$#| |####$&#$&#$###| |# p!l0t.fm $##| |##$#$#$#$#$###| |#$#&#$#&#$#&##| \############$#| :`------------.| :| . :| `: . /| \ . |`. : . | `. | . |/): | . |/ : \_____|_____/.? .####:####\ :____.`.____)............ . . tri./*rmx:itc - -- pionier der telearbeit - http://betazine.org/ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From smb23 at lennon.csufresno.edu Tue Dec 12 22:11:29 2000 From: smb23 at lennon.csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The monkey went peacefully Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012122210161.8989-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> http://www.foxnews.com/etcetera/120800/monkey.sml the url should peak someone interest. Steve -- If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 12 22:21:11 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? In-Reply-To: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> References: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121301211100.01531@workstation> hmmmm....... Thes australian linux counterparts sure like abstract art....well if you can call it art. Any one know what it is??? To me it looks like some one screwd up and called it art. On Tuesday 12 December 2000 20:04, Nick Moffitt wrote: > WHat the FUCK is that ASCII art thing at the bottom? These > crazy Austrians sure say some WACKY stuff! > > ----- Forwarded message from Announcer <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> ----- > > Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 23:33:39 +0100 > From: itch <cs@t0.or.at> > Subject: betazine 6% > > Last login: Wed Sep 20 05:21:12 +0200 (MEZ) > > Betazine 7.1-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Sat Dec 9 23:04:37 +0200 (MEZ) > > Welcome to http://betazine.org/ > Enjoy dual language-mode! > > > We have new content. > > $ sound > ~*nu face: http://pilot.fm ../vis/lan:eng/ > $ txt > ~*uebermarkt ../txt/lan:ger/ > ~*viennale 2k ../txt/lan:ger/ > ~*reaclaim the landschaft ../txt/lan:ger/ > ~*29nu austrian observations ../txt/lan:dual/ > $ links > ~*42nu links ../txt/lan:dual/ > $ index > ~*quickref > ~*public key > $ service > ~*VIE culture as usual ../lan:dual/ > > > Pr3f3rcmyk? > > $ The Rise & Fall of an Empire. > ~*feb 1, 4 & 8 2k+1. > ~*k/haus passage VIE > > > D!2cl4m3r. > > $ Sorry for crossposts. > $ Pls reply to unsubscribe if not list. > > > > __________ > _- __ \ > _- / > - ( 0 )/ > / _. __ | > > | / | |\ > | / /? /| > | / ( _/#| > > \/_/ _---###| > `------###$&#$#| > > |####$&#$&#$###| > |# p!l0t.fm $##| > |##$#$#$#$#$###| > |#$#&#$#&#$#&##| > > \############$#| > > :`------------.| > : > :| . :| > > `: . /| > \ . |`. > > : . | `. > : > | . |/): > | . |/ : > > \_____|_____/.? > .####:####\ > > :____.`.____)............ . . > > tri./*rmx:itc > > > > - -- > pionier der telearbeit - http://betazine.org/ > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 22:19:55 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? In-Reply-To: <00121301211100.01531@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:21:11AM -0500 References: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> <00121301211100.01531@workstation> Message-ID: <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > Thes australian linux counterparts sure like abstract art....well if > you can call it art. > Any one know what it is??? > To me it looks like some one screwd up and called it art. Austrian. It's Austrian. I'm amazed you can keep the keyboard from short-circuiting, what with all the drooling you must do. I envision the creature from Alien: drip, drip, drip, ooze... -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 22:21:04 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The monkey went peacefully In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012122210161.8989-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu>; from smb23@lennon.csufresno.edu on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:11:29PM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012122210161.8989-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> Message-ID: <20001212222104.M11926@zork.net> begin Steve M Bibayoff quotation: > the url should peak someone interest. "pique" -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Dec 12 22:23:41 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The monkey went peacefully In-Reply-To: <20001212222104.M11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:21:04PM -0800 References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012122210161.8989-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001212222104.M11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213012341.I74513@samurai.com> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:21:04PM -0800, Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> wrote: > > "pique" "poque" Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 12 22:35:30 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. Message-ID: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> Jesus. Moan moan moan. ----- Forwarded message from Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> ----- X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:47:18 -0700 To: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Subject: Re: Yes, Virginia, there is a Consonance In-Reply-To: <20001212213925.G11926@zork.net> At 10:39 PM 12/12/2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Look, you sent an unchecked group reply to an announcement to >the consonance mailing list. If that's the case, don't blame me for it. The sender should have Bcc'ed the list. > You are a mouth-breathing Windows user, and do not deserve the >skin you inhabit. I happen to be a substantial contributor to, and advocate of, BSD UNIX. The fact that you assume otherwise because I happen to be writing from a Windows client suggests that you are both bigoted and apt to jump to unwarranted conclusions. --Brett Glass "Were parties here divided merely by greediness for office..., to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Dec 12 22:47:14 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:35:30PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > Jesus. Moan moan moan. FYI, that was Brett Glass the computer-mag columnist. Yes, he is a BSD guy, to such a rabid degree that many other BSD advocates sometimes get a little tired of him. Specifically, he feels that anything GPL-tainted is spawn o'Satan-like (on grounds of imminent destruction of programmers' livelihood, PNG at 11), and advocates BSD licencing over GPL at every conceivable oppertunity and some inconceivable ones besides. In person, and off of his hobbyhorse, he is a very pleasant and bright guy. But you were of course correct that he was indeed being a mouth-breathing MS-Windows user, at that moment. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 12 23:00:44 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:47:14PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > FYI, that was Brett Glass the computer-mag columnist. Oh, I'm well aware. The silly flame war continued. It ended with a reference to his "pathetic attempts at side-show journalism" -- a line that has served me well in the past. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Dec 12 23:15:09 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:00:44PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:00:44PM -0800, Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> wrote: > begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > > FYI, that was Brett Glass the computer-mag columnist. > > Oh, I'm well aware. The silly flame war continued. Some of the threads involving him on freebsd-security have been quite amusing. Think that's the first time I've seen JKH call someone a knob on a public list. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 12 23:34:19 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? In-Reply-To: <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net> References: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> <00121301211100.01531@workstation> <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121302341900.01589@workstation> Yes yes Monkey master.... these are symptoms of sleep depravation.... I start seing things on the screen.... ....wheres my cat now ...hmmm On Wednesday 13 December 2000 01:19, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > Thes australian linux counterparts sure like abstract art....well if > > you can call it art. > > Any one know what it is??? > > To me it looks like some one screwd up and called it art. > > Austrian. It's Austrian. I'm amazed you can keep the > keyboard from short-circuiting, what with all the drooling you must > do. I envision the creature from Alien: drip, drip, drip, ooze... -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From dhd at eradicator.org Wed Dec 13 06:18:18 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:19:55 -0800" References: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> <00121301211100.01531@workstation> <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87y9xke76d.fsf@cepstral.com> Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > Thes australian linux counterparts sure like abstract art....well if > > you can call it art. > > Any one know what it is??? > > To me it looks like some one screwd up and called it art. > > Austrian. It's Austrian. I'm amazed you can keep the > keyboard from short-circuiting, what with all the drooling you must > do. I envision the creature from Alien: drip, drip, drip, ooze... AND he quotes like an Outlook user. LET'S SACRIFICE HIM TO OUR GOD!!!!!! -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@eradicator.org Strange flowers growing / In the fields of free speech Don't talk about repression / This is what you get Bouquet of barbed wire - The Ex, 1983 From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 08:07:07 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com>; from bryanf@samurai.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:15:09AM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net> <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20001213080707.C31441@zgp.org> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:15:09AM -0500, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > Some of the threads involving him on freebsd-security have been quite > amusing. Think that's the first time I've seen JKH call someone a knob > on a public list. Ain't GNU readline just the coolest damn library? Man, everybody should use it. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 08:37:14 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com>; from bryanf@samurai.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:15:09AM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net> <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20001213083714.P11926@zork.net> begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > Some of the threads involving him on freebsd-security have been > quite amusing. Think that's the first time I've seen JKH call > someone a knob on a public list. What I love is that Brett's sole foray into the 0xdeadbeef list was a flame from Jordan Hubbard. Beaujolais! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 08:37:30 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213080707.C31441@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:07:07AM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net> <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com> <20001213080707.C31441@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001213083730.Q11926@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > Ain't GNU readline just the coolest damn library? Man, everybody > should use it. Yes, and GDBM as well! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 09:35:04 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? In-Reply-To: <87y9xke76d.fsf@cepstral.com> References: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net> <87y9xke76d.fsf@cepstral.com> Message-ID: <00121312350401.02136@workstation> Is this god a cat?? On Wednesday 13 December 2000 09:18, David Huggins-Daines wrote: > Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: > > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > > Thes australian linux counterparts sure like abstract art....well if > > > you can call it art. > > > Any one know what it is??? > > > To me it looks like some one screwd up and called it art. > > > > Austrian. It's Austrian. I'm amazed you can keep the > > keyboard from short-circuiting, what with all the drooling you must > > do. I envision the creature from Alien: drip, drip, drip, ooze... > > AND he quotes like an Outlook user. > > LET'S SACRIFICE HIM TO OUR GOD!!!!!! -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Dec 13 09:56:30 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:35:30 -0800" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87zoi02oj5.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: >> You are a mouth-breathing Windows user, and do not deserve the >> skin you inhabit. NM> I happen to be a substantial contributor to, and advocate of, NM> BSD UNIX. The fact that you assume otherwise because I happen NM> to be writing from a Windows client suggests that you are both NM> bigoted and apt to jump to unwarranted conclusions. Writing from a Windows client => Windows user Make stupid list mistakes => mouth-breather I don't see any big logical jumps here. You have a solid case, CM, and I think you can win this man's skin in a court of law. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:01:59 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <87zoi02oj5.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:56:30AM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <87zoi02oj5.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001213110159.S11926@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > Writing from a Windows client => Windows user > Make stupid list mistakes => mouth-breather > > I don't see any big logical jumps here. You have a solid case, CM, and > I think you can win this man's skin in a court of law. Thanks, Aquinas. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 11:04:50 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The monkey went peacefully In-Reply-To: Bryan Fullerton's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:23:41 -0500" References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012122210161.8989-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001212222104.M11926@zork.net> <20001213012341.I74513@samurai.com> Message-ID: <87snns2ld9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "BF" == Bryan Fullerton <bryanf@samurai.com> writes: BF> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:21:04PM -0800, Monkey Master BF> <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> wrote: >> "pique" BF> "poque" Hey, remember those Poqet PCs? An XT in your biball pocket. Zowie! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at zork.net Wed Dec 13 11:04:39 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] Message-ID: <20001213110438.T11926@zork.net> More to come... ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev@sleepycat.com> Forwarded-by: "John P. Kole" <kole@rsn.hp.com> Forwarded-by: Don Mize <dmize@rsn.hp.com> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001211/ts/transport_acela_dc_2.html Monday December 11 1:58 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - North America's first high-speed passenger train, which can reach speeds of 150 mph, completed its first trip with paying passengers on schedule, cutting one and a half hours off the established Washington-Boston travel time, Amtrak said on Monday. The Acela Express arrived in Boston shortly after 11:30 a.m. EST, after leaving Washington's Union Station on time at 5 a.m. EST and making scheduled stops, including Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York in between, said Amtrak spokesperson Brenda Follmer. The new train is central to Amtrak's long-term survival plans as Congress has ordered the federally subsidized passenger railroad to free itself from operating subsidies by 2003. Amtrak hopes to capture business from the airlines with high-speed service along the busy Northeast Corridor. The Acela Express initially will make one daily round trip between Washington and Boston. Previously, the fastest train service between those two cities took about eight hours. Amtrak will add more Acela trains as the manufacturers complete delivery of all 20 trains. An Acela Express return trip was scheduled to leave Boston shortly after 5 p.m. and is expected to arrive at Washington's Union Station just before midnight. Alstom S.A., of Paris, the builder of the French TGV high-speed train, and Bombardier Inc. of Montreal are supplying the Acela trains. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.boston.com/news/daily/11/greatrace.htm The Great Race. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Wed Dec 13 11:04:55 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] Message-ID: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> Welcome to America, land of the decaying rail infrastructure. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: Benjamin Cline <benji@haven.boston.ma.us> [I just bought that for you, and it's already broken? %-) -benji] Faulty equipment sidetracks Acela By Raphael Lewis, Globe Staff, 12/13/2000 Amtrak's new high-speed train, the Acela Express, ode the fast track to the repair yard at the end of its inaugural run Monday night, after maintenance workers found a broken pantograph, the device that draws electricity from overhead cables. It was an unfortunate coda to an otherwise pleasant first round trip for the fledgling, $20-million luxury train, but it was not the end of Amtrak's Acela troubles. With repairs to the pantograph still unfinished at dawn yesterday, Acela's northbound trip for the day was left to a Metroliner locomotive, capable of speeds of just 125 miles per hour, 25 miles per hour slower than the Acela." http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/348/metro/Faulty_equipment_sidetracks_Acela+.shtml ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 11:11:14 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:37:30 -0800" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001212224714.R16209@linuxmafia.com> <20001212230044.O11926@zork.net> <20001213021509.J74513@samurai.com> <20001213080707.C31441@zgp.org> <20001213083730.Q11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87ofyg2l2l.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: >> Ain't GNU readline just the coolest damn library? Man, everybody >> should use it. MM> Yes, and GDBM as well! Fuck, no. EDB or bust! It's enlightened! It's got an E in it! You won't have it already so you'll have to install specially! http://www.enlightenment.org/news.html: > Edb is intended to provide a stable API and file format for > archiving configuration, theme and other data available all the time > for access at random really fast. Edb can store any kind of data in > key-value pair format. Random access reading and writing is FAST as > the core of Edb used a berkley db. Edb provides a convenience API > designed to make access fast AND improves access speed by caching > open db's until a flush and providing conveience macros too. It also > will be used to store image data and geometry data for theme files > so the information can be accessed without needing to unarchive > files and can be edited without having to unarchive and re-archive, > and still be accesses at random really quickly. I read that paragraph once and I got fits of deja vu. Then I figured out why. And in the great tradition of free software documentation: > Documentation is provided as comments in the Edb.h header file. Beaujolais, baby! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 11:12:41 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Mr.Bad's message of "13 Dec 2000 09:56:30 -0800" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <87zoi02oj5.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87k8942l06.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> writes: B> Writing from a Windows client => Windows user B> Make stupid list mistakes => mouth-breather B> I don't see any big logical jumps here. You have a solid case, B> CM, and I think you can win this man's skin in a court of law. Lets hope it's a good fit. The only thing worse than a flappy hide is a tight one; they suffer stretching so badly. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From 0 at pigdog.org Wed Dec 13 11:12:45 2000 From: 0 at pigdog.org (0) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The monkey went peacefully In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "13 Dec 2000 19:04:50 +0000" References: <Pine.SOL.4.02.10012122210161.8989-100000@lennon.csufresno.edu> <20001212222104.M11926@zork.net> <20001213012341.I74513@samurai.com> <87snns2ld9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <87hf482l02.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: PJC> Hey, remember those Poqet PCs? An XT in your biball pocket. PJC> Zowie! Wow! I didn't think anybody remembered those. My dad was the founder of Poqet. I have one right here in my computer lab. They're nice little machines. I wonder if I could get Linux running on it? ~0 -- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | 0@pigdog.org | http://pigdog.org/ | freenet:KSK@/mailbox/pigdog journal/0 | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | "He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself | + without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, + | receives light without darkening me." -- Thomas Jefferson | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 11:16:05 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121314160502.02136@workstation> Wow he thinks hes big time now, Trowing around his big time BSD crap around. Maybe He was writing from windows because he couldn't get BSD to work. heh Yes he must flex his BSD contributions. Maybe he is usign outlook because he can't seem to be able to configure his mail in BSD. hmmmmm.... I think i see a mouthbreathathing windows user too. skin him. Like a cat.... On Wednesday 13 December 2000 01:35, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Jesus. Moan moan moan. > > ----- Forwarded message from Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> ----- > > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:47:18 -0700 > To: Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> > From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> > Subject: Re: Yes, Virginia, there is a Consonance > In-Reply-To: <20001212213925.G11926@zork.net> > > At 10:39 PM 12/12/2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Look, you sent an unchecked group reply to an announcement to > >the consonance mailing list. > > If that's the case, don't blame me for it. The sender should have > Bcc'ed the list. > > > You are a mouth-breathing Windows user, and do not deserve the > >skin you inhabit. > > I happen to be a substantial contributor to, and advocate of, BSD > UNIX. The fact that you assume otherwise because I happen to be > writing from a Windows client suggests that you are both bigoted and > apt to jump to unwarranted conclusions. > > --Brett Glass > > > "Were parties here divided merely by greediness for office..., > to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable > or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:13:19 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <87k8942l06.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:12:41PM +0000 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <87zoi02oj5.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <87k8942l06.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001213111319.V11926@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > Lets hope it's a good fit. The only thing worse than a flappy hide > is a tight one; they suffer stretching so badly. Yeah. Brett is a scrawny little dork. That, and I don't think his bowl-cut would fit my head well. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:14:54 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121314160502.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:16:05PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > I think i see a mouthbreathathing windows user too. So which particular brand of crack do you prefer? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 11:21:48 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121314214803.02136@workstation> Don't know pretty much take what ever my neighbor sells. hmmm... This like the matrix question....the blue pill or the red pilll hmmm..... On Wednesday 13 December 2000 14:14, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > I think i see a mouthbreathathing windows user too. > > So which particular brand of crack do you prefer? -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:27:58 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121314214803.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:21:48PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > This like the matrix question....the blue pill or the red pilll > hmmm..... No. No it is not. This blue pill/red pill shit is the biggest pile of postmodern marketing bullshit I've seen in a LONG TIME. Purportedly, it's all about escape from everyday humdrum existence, but it's all coming from a unified pop-culture source. What the hell could POSSIBLY be more humdrum and everyday than a big-ass mondo-budget MPAA flick? Sir, you have LOST. You have rebelled in the tiny box provided, and there are no air holes. The researchers and pollsters are scribbling on their clipboards AS I TYPE, and you'll soon find yourself reduced to a DEMOGRAPHIC. One day you'll be able to claim your purchasing habits were obscure. You'll thumb your noses down at the folks who think that Flood or Nevermind was the best album ever made, and flaunt your collection of rare bootlegs. You'll sneer at the youngsters and their top-40 musak stations and wax nostalgic about a day when life was original and refreshing, and we all had a common goal to overthrow the forces of Lame and Mundane. Keep your fucking colored pills. Keep your goddamn raves, your Dharma Bums letter jackets, and your Woodstock IV. Get them the FUCK off my list. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 11:38:51 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:04:55AM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:04:55AM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > Welcome to America, land of the decaying rail infrastructure. http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=433992&CFID=385213&CFTOKEN=68158129 France, land of le TGV, l'Agence de logiciel libre, at le Beaujolais, is starting to look better and better...and the farmers who trash McDonalds and the long vacations makes France Super Country Number 1 as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I should go. Je suis, tu es, il est, nous sommes, vous, vous...merde, ou se trouve l'accent circonflex on this fucking thing? -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Dec 13 11:42:03 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: Don Marti's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:38:51 -0800" References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> Message-ID: <87wvd4152s.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "DM" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes: DM> France, land of le TGV, l'Agence de logiciel libre, at le DM> Beaujolais, is starting to look better and better...and the DM> farmers who trash McDonalds and the long vacations makes DM> France Super Country Number 1 as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I DM> should go. Je suis, tu es, il est, nous sommes, vous, DM> vous...merde, ou se trouve l'accent circonflex on this fucking DM> thing? Estas multaj esperantistoj en Francio. ~S-o Malbona -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:43:42 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:38:51AM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > France, land of le TGV, l'Agence de logiciel libre, at le > Beaujolais, is starting to look better and better...and the farmers > who trash McDonalds and the long vacations makes France Super > Country Number 1 as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I should go. Je > suis, tu es, il est, nous sommes, vous, vous...merde, ou se trouve > l'accent circonflex on this fucking thing? But wait, there's more! No crypto in any store! You'll be hauled into the frog-bucket like a terroriste for merely using SSH! Beaujolais to that! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Dec 13 11:45:46 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:38:51AM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001213134545.E1879@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Don Marti: > France, land of le TGV, l'Agence de logiciel libre, at le Beaujolais, is > starting to look better and better...and the farmers who trash McDonalds > and the long vacations makes France Super Country Number 1 as far as I'm > concerned. Maybe I should go. Je suis, tu es, il est, nous sommes, vous, > vous...merde, ou se trouve l'accent circonflex on this fucking thing? I rode the TGV last April in Frogland -- it's very cool -- it feels like a roomy airplane on rails. pedro From pedro at flynn.zork.net Wed Dec 13 11:48:19 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:27:58AM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213134819.F1879@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Monkey Master: > This blue pill/red pill shit is the biggest pile of postmodern > marketing bullshit I've seen in a LONG TIME. Seriously. The last time our chain got jerked this hard was when all the "alternative radio" stations slowly morphed into top-40 stations. SHOCK! Take the red pill, and wake up to reality man -- until someone convinces you that this one is just a dream. But really the whole time you've just been sitting in front of your tv daydreaming. pedro From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:54:42 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213134819.F1879@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:48:19PM -0600 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> <20001213134819.F1879@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213115442.B11926@zork.net> begin Peter A. Peterson II quotation: > Take the red pill, and wake up to reality man -- until someone > convinces you that this one is just a dream. But really the whole > time you've just been sitting in front of your tv daydreaming. "Consciousness Expansion" went out with LBJ, man. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 11:30:51 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: "Arie V. Rosa"'s message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:21:48 -0500" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <87k8949l04.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Arie V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> This like the matrix question....the blue pill or the red AVR> pilll hmmm..... Or you could think outside the box: punch Morpheus in the face and feed him both pills. See how he likes *that* happy crappy. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 11:56:30 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <87k8949l04.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:30:51PM +0000 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <87k8949l04.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001213115630.C11926@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > Or you could think outside the box: punch Morpheus in the face and > feed him both pills. See how he likes *that* happy crappy. Ah yes, now we move from The Matrix to Speed. "SHoot the hostage, d00d!" The Keanu effect must be expelled IMMEDIATELY. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 11:57:54 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:43:42 -0800" References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87lmtk856l.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> But wait, there's more! No crypto in any store! You'll be MM> hauled into the frog-bucket like a terroriste for merely using MM> SSH! Beaujolais to that! And of course, French television is so SPECIAL and UNIQUE that neither PAL nor NTSC would do! I give you: SECAM! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 12:07:49 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:56:30 -0800" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <87k8949l04.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001213115630.C11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <874s0884q2.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Paul J Collins quotation: >> Or you could think outside the box: punch Morpheus in the face >> and feed him both pills. See how he likes *that* happy crappy. MM> Ah yes, now we move from The Matrix to Speed. "SHoot the MM> hostage, d00d!" The phrase "happy crappy" does not originate in "Speed." -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Dec 13 12:11:16 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:43:42AM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213121116.Q18589@zork.net> Monkey Master writes: > begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > > France, land of le TGV, l'Agence de logiciel libre, at le > > Beaujolais, is starting to look better and better...and the farmers > > who trash McDonalds and the long vacations makes France Super > > Country Number 1 as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I should go. Je > > suis, tu es, il est, nous sommes, vous, vous...merde, ou se trouve > > l'accent circonflex on this fucking thing? > > But wait, there's more! No crypto in any store! You'll be > hauled into the frog-bucket like a terroriste for merely using SSH! > Beaujolais to that! http://www.oreilly.com/people/staff/andyo/ar/crypto_reversal.html French crypto prohibition is so two years ago. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 12:14:35 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121315143504.02136@workstation> Like the great Monkey master once said,....."you loose" Another victim to my list of the fallen. Oh ....I took the red one I agree to much escape being sougth after, By the way MPAA RIAA...matter a fact any large body comprised of multinational companies aiming to sell and own and control is a bad idea...and hated by me. speed was overated ...now lets get to making soem really good free opensource movies On Wednesday 13 December 2000 14:27, Monkey Master wrote: > begin quotation: > > This like the matrix question....the blue pill or the red pilll > > hmmm..... > > No. No it is not. > > This blue pill/red pill shit is the biggest pile of postmodern > marketing bullshit I've seen in a LONG TIME. > > Purportedly, it's all about escape from everyday humdrum > existence, but it's all coming from a unified pop-culture source. > What the hell could POSSIBLY be more humdrum and everyday than a > big-ass mondo-budget MPAA flick? > > Sir, you have LOST. You have rebelled in the tiny box > provided, and there are no air holes. The researchers and pollsters > are scribbling on their clipboards AS I TYPE, and you'll soon find > yourself reduced to a DEMOGRAPHIC. > > One day you'll be able to claim your purchasing habits were > obscure. You'll thumb your noses down at the folks who think that > Flood or Nevermind was the best album ever made, and flaunt your > collection of rare bootlegs. You'll sneer at the youngsters and their > top-40 musak stations and wax nostalgic about a day when life was > original and refreshing, and we all had a common goal to overthrow the > forces of Lame and Mundane. > > Keep your fucking colored pills. Keep your goddamn raves, > your Dharma Bums letter jackets, and your Woodstock IV. Get them the > FUCK off my list. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 12:12:43 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:43:42AM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213121243.B3038@zgp.org> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:43:42AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > But wait, there's more! No crypto in any store! You'll be > hauled into the frog-bucket like a terroriste for merely using SSH! http://www2.epic.org/reports/crypto2000/countries.html#Heading39 -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 12:17:41 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <87lmtk856l.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> <87lmtk856l.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00121315174005.02136@workstation> To many popel trying to make thier own little trown with kingdom and all. shits like the electoral college only reason it's still here is because to many people wouldn't have a thrown and a job any more, keep it any way...makes jobs and screws democracy. On Wednesday 13 December 2000 14:57, Paul J Collins wrote: > >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: > > MM> But wait, there's more! No crypto in any store! You'll be > MM> hauled into the frog-bucket like a terroriste for merely using > MM> SSH! Beaujolais to that! > > And of course, French television is so SPECIAL and UNIQUE that neither > PAL nor NTSC would do! I give you: SECAM! -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 12:16:08 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121315143504.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:14:35PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> <00121315143504.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213121608.D11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > Like the great Monkey master once said,....."you loose" "lose" > Another victim to my list of the fallen. > Oh ....I took the red one > > I agree to much escape being sougth after, A pity you don't know where to look. > By the way MPAA RIAA...matter a fact any large body comprised of > multinational companies aiming to sell and own and control is a bad > idea...and hated by me. Yeah! Down with the multinationals! How original and refreshing that sentiment is! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 12:17:10 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:27:58AM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213121710.C3038@zgp.org> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:27:58AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Sir, you have LOST. You have rebelled in the tiny box > provided, and there are no air holes. The researchers and pollsters > are scribbling on their clipboards AS I TYPE, and you'll soon find > yourself reduced to a DEMOGRAPHIC. I used to be a renegade, I used to fool around But I couldn't take the punishment, and had to settle down Now I'm playing it real straight, and yes I cut my hair You might think I'm crazy, but I don't even care Because I can tell what's going on It's hip to be square -- Huey Lewis and the News -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 12:17:35 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <874s0884q2.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:07:49PM +0000 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <87k8949l04.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001213115630.C11926@zork.net> <874s0884q2.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001213121735.E11926@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > The phrase "happy crappy" does not originate in "Speed." I have never heard the phrase before. I was referring to your "do something unexpected and shoot someone!" strategy, which (aside from the "The [form of driving surface] is out! I'm gunna speed up and jump it!" schtick) is the only thing I remember from that insipid movie. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 12:18:11 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <00121315174005.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:17:41PM -0500 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> <87lmtk856l.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00121315174005.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > To many popel trying to make thier own little trown with kingdom and > all. shits like the electoral college only reason it's still here > is because to many people wouldn't have a thrown and a job any more, > keep it any way...makes jobs and screws democracy. Hang on just a second. YOu mean to say that you're in the USA? Fuck, I figured English was your third or fourth language, at least! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 12:19:26 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213121710.C3038@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:17:10PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> <20001213121710.C3038@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> Everybody's hip, and that ain't cool. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 12:22:49 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213121608.D11926@zork.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121315143504.02136@workstation> <20001213121608.D11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121315224906.02136@workstation> On Wednesday 13 December 2000 15:16, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > Like the great Monkey master once said,....."you loose" > > "lose" thank you > > > Another victim to my list of the fallen. > > Oh ....I took the red one > > > > I agree to much escape being sougth after, > > A pity you don't know where to look. Looks like were both looking in the same place > > > By the way MPAA RIAA...matter a fact any large body comprised of > > multinational companies aiming to sell and own and control is a bad > > idea...and hated by me. > > Yeah! Down with the multinationals! How original and > refreshing that sentiment is! not at all -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 12:22:43 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121315224906.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:22:49PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121315143504.02136@workstation> <20001213121608.D11926@zork.net> <00121315224906.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213122243.H11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > Yeah! Down with the multinationals! How original and > > refreshing that sentiment is! > > not at all *blink* *blink* -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 12:42:52 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <00121315425208.02136@workstation> hmmm.... have I angerd you....nah i dont' think so I have no coemback to my horrible typing skills today. Hey i didn't know I was submiting a term paper to Mr. Monkey Master I wonder what evil form of a paradox has developed here, darn...hehe people argue about the issues and then argue about the people arguing about the issues. Hold up there are no issues On Wednesday 13 December 2000 15:18, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > To many popel trying to make thier own little trown with kingdom and > > all. shits like the electoral college only reason it's still here > > is because to many people wouldn't have a thrown and a job any more, > > keep it any way...makes jobs and screws democracy. > > Hang on just a second. YOu mean to say that you're in the > USA? Fuck, I figured English was your third or fourth language, at > least! -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 12:41:58 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <00121315425208.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:42:52PM -0500 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> <00121315425208.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > I have no coemback to my horrible typing skills today. Hey i didn't > know I was submiting a term paper to Mr. Monkey Master "That's not writing; that's typing!" -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Wed Dec 13 13:42:46 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net> References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> <00121315425208.02136@workstation> <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <200012132142.eBDLgq524383@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:41:58 -0800, Monkey Master opined: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > I have no coemback to my horrible typing skills today. Hey i didn't > > know I was submiting a term paper to Mr. Monkey Master > > "That's not writing; that's typing!" I see this thread has apparently died of natural causes. Good thing, it was starting to resemble something usually found on the pigdog list. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Wed Dec 13 13:47:10 2000 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "13 Dec 2000 16:42:46 EST" References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> <00121315425208.02136@workstation> <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net> <200012132142.eBDLgq524383@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87lmtk0za9.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: BB> I see this thread has apparently died of natural causes. Good BB> thing, it was starting to resemble something usually found on BB> the pigdog list. The WHAT? Oh, thaaaat list! Hahaha, I can't believe you fell for that one! "pigdog-l@bearfountain.com"! What a scream! ~LDJ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ "He who receives an idea from me, recieves instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me." -- Thomas Jefferson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Dec 13 13:54:26 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121314160502.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:16:05PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213135426.U16209@linuxmafia.com> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > Wow he thinks hes big time now, Trowing around his big time BSD crap around. > Maybe He was writing from windows because he couldn't get BSD to work. heh > Yes he must flex his BSD contributions. > Maybe he is usign outlook because he can't seem to be able to configure his > mail in BSD. hmmmmm.... Get off Nick's list. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Dec 13 14:03:18 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213121116.Q18589@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:11:16PM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> <20001213121116.Q18589@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213140317.V16209@linuxmafia.com> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > French crypto prohibition is so two years ago. Except Thou Shalt Not use >128 bit keys: http://www.scssi.gouv.fr/present/chiffre/liste.html#13181 http://ccweb.in2p3.fr/secur/ssf/ -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From bob at ruptured-duck.com Wed Dec 13 14:24:39 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <87lmtk0za9.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net><00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net><00121315425208.02136@workstation> <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net><200012132142.eBDLgq524383@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87lmtk0za9.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <200012132224.eBDMOj524411@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 13 Dec 2000 13:47:10 -0800, The Lumberjack DJ opined: > Oh, thaaaat list! Hahaha, I can't believe you fell for that one! > > "pigdog-l@bearfountain.com"! What a scream! Whew. Please to me you're going to make it back to the unit in time for evening meds! -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Wed Dec 13 14:28:51 2000 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "13 Dec 2000 17:24:39 EST" References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net> <00121315425208.02136@workstation> <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net> <200012132142.eBDLgq524383@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87lmtk0za9.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <200012132224.eBDMOj524411@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <878zpk0xcs.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: Me> "pigdog-l@bearfountain.com"! What a scream! BB> Whew. Please to me you're going to make it back to the unit in BB> time for evening meds! Yes very! Please of you meds make unit! Evening back! ~LDJ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ "He who receives an idea from me, recieves instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me." -- Thomas Jefferson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 14:53:22 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:19:26PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> <20001213121710.C3038@zgp.org> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:19:26PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Everybody's hip, and that ain't cool. You're just pissed because everybody's cyber. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 15:06:10 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Arie V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> Message-ID: <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> hehe On Wednesday 13 December 2000 17:53, Don Marti wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 12:19:26PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > Everybody's hip, and that ain't cool. > > You're just pissed because everybody's cyber. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From schoen at loyalty.org Wed Dec 13 15:17:43 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <20001213140317.V16209@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 02:03:18PM -0800 References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net> <20001213113851.A3038@zgp.org> <20001213114342.Z11926@zork.net> <20001213121116.Q18589@zork.net> <20001213140317.V16209@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001213151743.U18589@zork.net> Rick Moen writes: > begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > > > French crypto prohibition is so two years ago. > > Except Thou Shalt Not use >128 bit keys: > > http://www.scssi.gouv.fr/present/chiffre/liste.html#13181 ^^^^^ See, I knew there was _something_ good about ATAPI! -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Wed Dec 13 15:31:40 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <0012131806100A.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 06:06:10PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma> * Arie V. Rosa (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > hehe See? You don't have to use windows to be a mouth-breather! Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ '-------------------------------------------------------' From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 13 15:27:29 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <0012131806100A.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 06:06:10PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001213152729.L11926@zork.net> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > hehe Why do you bother hitting the "send" key, anyway? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 15:34:21 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma>; from gilbertt@linuxbrit.co.uk on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:31:40PM +0000 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20001213153421.F7659@zgp.org> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:31:40PM +0000, Tom Gilbert wrote: > See? You don't have to use windows to be a mouth-breather! If spaz-boy laughs at something I post to this list, is that minus one cool point for me? -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bryanf at samurai.com Wed Dec 13 15:37:37 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213153421.F7659@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:34:21PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma> <20001213153421.F7659@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001213183737.S74513@samurai.com> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:34:21PM -0800, Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> wrote: > > If spaz-boy laughs at something I post to this list, is that minus one > cool point for me? Having to ask: -1 cool point Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Wed Dec 13 15:48:34 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:27:29 -0800" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> <20001213152729.L11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87g0jr51d9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: >> hehe MM> Why do you bother hitting the "send" key, anyway? Could be worse: could have been a forward. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From kdoherty at cosanostra.net Wed Dec 13 15:49:46 2000 From: kdoherty at cosanostra.net (Kevin Doherty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma>; from gilbertt@linuxbrit.co.uk on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:31:40PM +0000 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20001213184946.A9343@cosanostra.net> And thus spake Tom Gilbert, on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:31:40PM +0000: > * Arie V. Rosa (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > > hehe > > See? You don't have to use windows to be a mouth-breather! Nope, a Windows-wannabe will suffice. -- Kevin Doherty, kdoherty@cosanostra.net "There's much to be said for laboring in obscurity" -- "Tilt-A-Whirl", Galactic Cowboys From zen at zork.net Wed Dec 13 15:53:35 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:43 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <87g0jr51d9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:48:34PM +0000 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213121926.G11926@zork.net> <20001213145322.A7659@zgp.org> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> <20001213152729.L11926@zork.net> <87g0jr51d9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001213155335.C15365@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > MM> Why do you bother hitting the "send" key, anyway? > > Could be worse: could have been a forward. I would much rather receive a forward from him than something he actually typed. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Wed Dec 13 17:25:08 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Overlord) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213152729.L11926@zork.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012131806100A.02136@workstation> <20001213152729.L11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <0012132025080B.02136@workstation> becuse i know I will get a response of frustration from you. On Wednesday 13 December 2000 18:27, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > hehe > > Why do you bother hitting the "send" key, anyway? -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 13 17:24:16 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Bible Code? Message-ID: <20001213172416.A10501@zgp.org> Hey, does anybody have that Bible Code software? As of tonight, I will have 10 million unique Doubleclick cookies, and I want to search for secret Satanic messages. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Wed Dec 13 18:03:01 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Re: North America's First High-Speed Rail Service Begins] In-Reply-To: <878zpk0xcs.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20001213110455.U11926@zork.net><00121315174005.02136@workstation> <20001213121810.F11926@zork.net><00121315425208.02136@workstation> <20001213124158.I11926@zork.net><200012132142.eBDLgq524383@robert.ruptured-duck.org><87lmtk0za9.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us><200012132224.eBDMOj524411@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <878zpk0xcs.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <200012140203.eBE239524777@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 13 Dec 2000 14:28:51 -0800, The Lumberjack DJ opined: > BB> Whew. Please to me you're going to make it back to the unit in > BB> time for evening meds! > > Yes very! Please of you meds make unit! Evening back! Damn typos. Bah. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN! Damn ambulatory psychotics. Bah. Just stay on the psychotropics, ok? Good. And remember, we're here to HELP. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From aaronl at vitelus.com Wed Dec 13 21:53:52 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Nick Moffitt lookalike? Message-ID: <20001213215352.B29877@vitelus.com> http://www.somethingawful.com/cliff/ihateyou/page-75-05.jpg THE UNHOLY POTATO DEMANDS VENGEANCE!!! From kdoherty at cosanostra.net Thu Dec 14 09:15:24 2000 From: kdoherty at cosanostra.net (Kevin Doherty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <0012132037590E.02136@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:37:59PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma> <20001213184946.A9343@cosanostra.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> Message-ID: <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> And thus spake Overlord, on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:37:59PM -0500: > On Wednesday 13 December 2000 18:49, Kevin Doherty wrote: > > And thus spake Tom Gilbert, on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:31:40PM +0000: > > > * Overlord (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > > > > hehe > > > > > > See? You don't have to use windows to be a mouth-breather! > > > > Nope, a Windows-wannabe will suffice. > > Wannabe thanks alot. haven't touched the stuff since I upgraded to Linux. > I see you hold your self high up there on that pedistal, are you "the cool > crowd" > Hey dont' take anything personal...just list antics I was referring to the software, KMail, as a windows wannabe. It wouldn't make any sense to accuse someone of wanting to be an operating system, much less Windows. Oh, and learn how to reply, dipshit. -- Kevin Doherty, kdoherty@cosanostra.net "There's much to be said for laboring in obscurity" -- "Tilt-A-Whirl", Galactic Cowboys From bob at ruptured-duck.com Thu Dec 14 10:17:58 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <20001213233140.I19923@ummagumma> <20001213184946.A9343@cosanostra.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> Message-ID: <200012141818.eBEII7527379@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:15:24 -0500, Kevin Doherty opined: > And thus spake Overlord, on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:37:59PM -0500: > > On Wednesday 13 December 2000 18:49, Kevin Doherty wrote: > > > And thus spake Tom Gilbert, on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:31:40PM +0000: > > > > * Overlord (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > > > > > hehe > > > > > > > > See? You don't have to use windows to be a mouth-breather! > > > > > > Nope, a Windows-wannabe will suffice. > > > > Wannabe thanks alot. haven't touched the stuff since I upgraded to Linux. > > I see you hold your self high up there on that pedistal, are you "the cool > > crowd" > > Hey dont' take anything personal...just list antics > > I was referring to the software, KMail, as a windows wannabe. It wouldn't > make any sense to accuse someone of wanting to be an operating system, much > less Windows. > > Oh, and learn how to reply, dipshit. I just click on "Reply." How do you do it? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Thu Dec 14 10:29:51 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [Overlord <bambamm20@mindspring.com>] Fwd: Re: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. Message-ID: <87r93ag8kg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> It gets worse. -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: Overlord <bambamm20@mindspring.com> Organization: BlueMillenium Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:38:35 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Subject: Fwd: Re: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. To: Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:53:35 -0800 From: George Moffitt <zen@zork.net> To: Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > MM> Why do you bother hitting the "send" key, anyway? > > Could be worse: could have been a forward. I would much rather receive a forward from him than something he actually typed. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll _______________________________________________ CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey ------------------------------------------------------- -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... -------------------- End of forwarded message -------------------- -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From geoperry at iww.org Thu Dec 14 12:14:06 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] "... yes, you qualify, and here's an extra portion for your inconvenience... we put this drift-net out, and these long lines against fraud, you see..." In-Reply-To: <3A390BD4.AD43F30E@spasci.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012141122010.13087-100000@iww.org> If yhew are naught guilty, yhew heef nathink to feer. In other news: I'm thinking of how ocbc might exploit its neighbourly ways, say, by engaging a momm&pop dsl-isp in or around mid-Town Oakland... ... and then, may be hoist upon a higher level of fund-raising. Or turn it around, even... ?who wants to connect ocbc to internet. Time for an imaginary interview: "I'll hook you up, America, and all... but it's gonna' cost you more, cos I know you'll be trouble... it's just business." I need a new interview: "!Sure... we've been connecting Movement orgs for years, now... we never get tired of saying that we serve so many upfront groups, that if the government ever wanted to find..." Eeep. Anyway, may be some one will want to love us; and if not pay us for excitement, may be some... y'know... I take out the recycling/garbage on Mondays, and knock fifty a month off sflr's rent... ... ?who would exploit us. Please. -g... fundraiser, ocbc... dungtechture, sflr... p.s... I've been thinking about situational & circumstantial fundraisers for other <niche.org>s, too... orgs like 4th & fig & such p.p.s... and now for some thing completely different: regarding subject's excerpt from an alternative reality On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, a private person wrote: > Subject: Kidnappers? > This is a piece of history I didn't know. I thought you should know it > as well. > http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/local/docs/chung13mo.htm From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 12:33:13 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> Message-ID: <00121415331303.03331@workstation> On Thursday 14 December 2000 12:15, Kevin Doherty wrote: > I was referring to the software, KMail, as a windows wannabe. It wouldn't > make any sense to accuse someone of wanting to be an operating system, much > less Windows. > > Oh, and learn how to reply, dipshit. Whats the problem with it. Does the job the way i like it. It's opensource, free, stable, wont crash, extremely to configure, supports imports of email databases from almost any email client. Hmmm it is graphical. It backgrounds most operations. shurely has alot more features than most alternatives. Hmmm All i have to do is hit reply and POOF there is a nice little windows ready for me to input text in response to a dipshit like you. I bet your a console die-hard right...like emacs?? Lets see it runs on gnome without a twitch (i do run gnome). So I am wondering whats your problem with kmail. the way i see it it is better than the one your running. Yeah i like mutt it gets the job done I use it at work but why shoul I restrict my self at home where I have enough computer power to run all the GUI and ego pleasing eye candy I will please tp run. Hmmmm... Don't see any point to your argument, your just a follower one of those "console is everything and I love mutt" kinda people. I will take the ridicule for running this "kmail" I like it. Atleast im not a folower...i beat my own path. So stick to your little save haven following the pack keep your little X86 machine and your mob indiced bias keep it to. Will take you no where. Like it was said before "think out side the box" -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Thu Dec 14 12:41:36 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Ariel Rosa's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:33:13 -0500" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> Message-ID: <87lmtig2gv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AR" == Ariel Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AR> I will take the ridicule for running this "kmail" I AR> like it. Atleast im not a folower...i beat my own path. Just like KDE and GNOME beat their own paths by aping Windows and the Mac OS? Originality is dead. Get over it. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Dec 14 12:44:22 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121415331303.03331@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:33:13PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> Message-ID: <20001214124421.H16209@linuxmafia.com> begin Ariel Rosa quotation: > Don't see any point to your argument, your just a follower one of those > "console is everything and I love mutt" kinda people. Get off my list, luser. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 12:47:35 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <87lmtig2gv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> <87lmtig2gv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00121415473504.03331@workstation> On Thursday 14 December 2000 15:41, Paul J Collins wrote: > Just like KDE and GNOME beat their own paths by aping Windows and the > Mac OS? > > Originality is dead. Get over it. Hehe true, now everyone is trying to be better than everyone else. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Thu Dec 14 12:50:36 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Overlord) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001214124421.H16209@linuxmafia.com> References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> <20001214124421.H16209@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <00121415503605.03331@workstation> On Thursday 14 December 2000 15:44, Rick Moen wrote: > Get off my list, luser. So are you the winner? scratch scracth sniff sniff...smells liek bs to me. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From garvilk at badpeople.org Thu Dec 14 14:42:30 2000 From: garvilk at badpeople.org (GARathan Vilkaitis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121415331303.03331@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:33:13PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> Message-ID: <20001214144230.Q11926@zork.net> Monkey Master to; your argument, your little problem with it is graphical. It's opensource, free, stable (wont crash extremely To). Re; response to; your mob indiced bias keep it. Lets see it runs on Thu, Dec at work but why shoul i restrict my self at X Motd Size; gnome without a follower one of the job way I the job the pack keep it is a dipshit like emacs? Subject. Monkey Master to configure, supports imports of the problem with it gets the pack keep it. I am wondering whats the problem with it to input text in reply To your POOF there is it it to do is a dipshit like emacs? Monkey. Hmmm it To: do is runs on Thu, Dec at X Motd Size. Hmmm it gets the one of the job the GUI and POOF there is graphical. Lines long X Motd Size; have to configure, a twitch I will please tp run; All the way i like You no where. Ath X Fnord. From. Hmmm it it is graphical. Monkey. Reply to input text in reply to a dipshit like emacs? Subject. CrackMonkey Goddamn spaz boy. It's opensource, free, stable, wont crash, extremely to input text in reply to: configure (supports imports of the job box Non sequitur arguments and ego pleasing eye candy I do is hit reply to). From on Thu, Dec at X Motd Size. The problem with it To your just a console is graphical. So without a nice little save haven following the Online Handbook for running this kmail I am wondering whats the way I have To your problem with it it: is graphical; a twitch I like it To. Monkey Master to. So I see it it: at X Motd Size; Size. Shurely has alot more features than the box job the way i like will please tp run all the problem with it runs on Thu, Dec at X Fnord. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Thu Dec 14 14:57:45 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] File under: RH sucks Message-ID: <200012142258.eBEMw2527830@robert.ruptured-duck.org> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-12-14-002-21-NW-RH-SW -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 14 15:00:14 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow Message-ID: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> From the back of a pad of post-its: "Post-it is a registered trademark of 3M. Used under license in Canada. Canary yellow is a trademark of 3M. http://www.3M.com/Post-it Made in U.S.A." Canary yellow. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Dec 14 15:15:33 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:00:14PM -0800 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214151533.C27624@zgp.org> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:00:14PM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > "Post-it is a registered trademark of 3M. Used under license in > Canada. Canary yellow is a trademark of 3M. > http://www.3M.com/Post-it Made in U.S.A." > > Canary yellow. YM Canary yellow(TM). -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Thu Dec 14 16:30:11 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Is it a PC OS? Is it an IA OS? No! It's an MP3-player OS! Message-ID: <87k892edbg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Now Be is the best ever OS for MP3 players! http://www.byte.com/printableArticle?doc_id=BYT20001212S0001 alarm bells... "reference platform" ... "could" ... "should" ... "it's likely that we'll see a commercially available Aura implementation as soon as the second quarter of 2001" ... When is Be actually going to *do* something? Is J-L timesharing Steve's RDF? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Dec 14 16:38:55 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:00:14PM -0800 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214163855.T18589@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > From the back of a pad of post-its: > > "Post-it is a registered trademark of 3M. Used under license in > Canada. Canary yellow is a trademark of 3M. > http://www.3M.com/Post-it Made in U.S.A." > > Canary yellow. http://www.baypatents.com/News/html_news/court_rules_on_3m_trademark_case.htm -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From zen at zork.net Thu Dec 14 16:46:10 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:00:14PM -0800 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214164610.C2286@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > Canada. Canary yellow is a trademark of 3M. > http://www.3M.com/Post-it Made in U.S.A." > > Canary yellow. Well, if those Australian guys got so close to patenting Orange, I guess it's not so far-fetched. 3M owns my line numbers. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Dec 14 17:06:00 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:00:14 -0800" References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87snnqlchz.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: NM> From the back of a pad of post-its: "Post-it is a registered NM> trademark of 3M. Used under license in Canada. Canary yellow NM> is a trademark of 3M. http://www.3M.com/Post-it Made in NM> U.S.A." NM> Canary yellow. I can top that. From barbie.com: 'The likeness of the Barbie doll, character, silhouette and accessory icons, the color "Barbie pink", the stylized "B" and other trademarks designated by ? and TM are U.S. trademarks of Mattel, Inc.' ~Mr. Bad P.S. Barbie Pink is a great name for a porn star. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Dec 14 17:09:41 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "14 Dec 2000 20:41:36 +0000" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> <87lmtig2gv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <87ofyelcbu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: PJC> Originality is dead. It must have caught whatever Irony had. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Dec 14 17:12:09 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: Ariel Rosa's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:47:35 -0500" References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> <87lmtig2gv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00121415473504.03331@workstation> Message-ID: <87k892lc7q.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "AR" == Ariel Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: PJC> Originality is dead. Get over it. AR> Hehe true, now everyone is trying to be better than everyone AR> else. Yeah, I guess. Hehe. I'm confused. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jdub at aphid.net Thu Dec 14 17:15:44 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <87ofyelcbu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:09:41PM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> <87lmtig2gv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <87ofyelcbu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001215121544.I3391@aphid.net> <quote who="Mr . Bad"> > PJC> Originality is dead. > > It must have caught whatever Irony had. Originality never caught Alanis. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I get my kicks above the .sigline, sunshine. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Dec 14 17:44:08 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? Message-ID: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> I want to make him go to LinuxFest in Belgrade. http://www.linuxfest.org.yu/index_e.html ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Dec 14 17:49:11 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:44:08PM -0800 References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> Mr . Bad writes: > I want to make him go to LinuxFest in Belgrade. > > http://www.linuxfest.org.yu/index_e.html Maybe he'll meet Richard Stallman. http://www.lugos.si/arhiv/prispevki/rms-sp/ -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Dec 14 17:56:02 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: Seth David Schoen's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:49:11 -0800" References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> Message-ID: <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SDS" == Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> writes: SDS> Maybe he'll meet Richard Stallman. SDS> http://www.lugos.si/arhiv/prispevki/rms-sp/ OK, I'm hereby making a rule that everyone who speaks a crazy gubble-gubble moonman language must learn Esperanto by the end of the year. Hop to it, people. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Dec 14 18:03:57 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If You Were Thinking About Installing Freenet... In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:42:40 -0800" References: <87itop5w9u.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001212104240.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <87zohyjv8y.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> Do you think you could build us some potato packages MM> there, cowboy? I get version conflicts on libc6, libgmp3, and MM> fucking XLIBS. Yeah, there's one here: http://www.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/~evan/freenetdeb/kaffe_1.0.6-2potato1_i386.deb ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Dec 14 18:16:40 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <20001214163855.T18589@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:38:55PM -0800 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001214163855.T18589@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214181640.A29543@zgp.org> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 04:38:55PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > http://www.baypatents.com/News/html_news/court_rules_on_3m_trademark_case.htm "3M was able to produce evidence that it was the exclusive seller of canary yellow post-it notes for the first four or five years the product was on the market." That's Post-It? Notes, you no-respect-for-the-law-having anarchists! Post-It? is a registered trademark of Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing Co. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/news1/ns-1027.html http://www.3M.com/market/office/postit/com_prod/webnotes/index.html -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From nutella at zork.net Thu Dec 14 18:44:22 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:56:02PM -0800 References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> 14Dec2000 05:56PM (-0800) From [mr.bad@pigdog.org] mr.bad [Mr . Bad] > > OK, I'm hereby making a rule that everyone who speaks a crazy > gubble-gubble moonman language I hope that includes you weirdos who speak Merkinese. Like switching to Esperanto would be, you know, like cool, dude. I think you just want to turn back the clock so you can be proud, free and skirt-wearing like your Hellenic ancestors and write in a script less intelligible than APL (or George-speak). You could afford to sell a few vowels from your surname to start the ball rolling. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Dec 14 19:36:48 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: <20001214184422.A635@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:44:22PM -0800 References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214193648.Y18589@zork.net> Bernard writes: > I think you just want to turn back the clock so you can > be proud, free and skirt-wearing like your Hellenic ancestors > and write in a script less intelligible than APL (or George-speak). > You could afford to sell a few vowels from your surname to start > the ball rolling. If you take "y" as 0.5 vowel ("sometimes y"), then your last name has a higher average vowel density than his. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nutella at zork.net Thu Dec 14 19:59:47 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I'm gonna go to hell for pointing this one out... Message-ID: <20001214195947.A2550@zork.net> http://www.divine-interventions.com/ Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From zen at zork.net Thu Dec 14 20:08:19 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: <20001214193648.Y18589@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:36:48PM -0800 References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> <20001214193648.Y18589@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214200819.B30000@zork.net> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > If you take "y" as 0.5 vowel ("sometimes y"), then your last name has > a higher average vowel density than his. Wouldn't it be better to decide whether or not y is a vowel i his name? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 14 21:14:31 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I'm gonna go to hell for pointing this one out... In-Reply-To: <20001214195947.A2550@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:59:47PM -0800 References: <20001214195947.A2550@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214211431.S11926@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > http://www.divine-interventions.com/ Yeah, yer fancy-pants proprietary shockwave page will definitely get you eternity. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Dec 14 21:32:20 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I'm gonna go to hell for pointing this one out... In-Reply-To: <20001214211431.S11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:14:31PM -0800 References: <20001214195947.A2550@zork.net> <20001214211431.S11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001214213220.C1012@zgp.org> On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:14:31PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Yeah, yer fancy-pants proprietary shockwave page will > definitely get you eternity. "You know what? FUCK blind people." -- Rob Burgess, CEO, Macromedia. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Dec 15 07:04:20 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Re: [Tek] debian vs redhat] Message-ID: <20001215100419.G87899@samurai.com> ----- Forwarded message from graydon@venge.net ----- From: graydon@venge.net Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:57:15 -0500 To: tek@semiotek.com Subject: Re: [Tek] debian vs redhat On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:51:57PM -0500, Velocet wrote: > I like unix wont work. The reasons I got into this stuff wont work > either ('there was DOS or Unix. Unix was far cooler. Big mini computers > at school used unix. they were on the net, no one else was.' - learn > unix or you couldnt really get on the net too well). unix is a donkey, a wart, an urchin. it's a tentacle monster from anime porn. it's a catastrophe of conflicting mechanisms which all work against one another. it wakes you up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, wondering "why couldn't they have done this right?". it insults you, degrades you, makes you hate life and most of all hate programmers. the only way to handle unix is to become a large, smelly, bearded madman with wild eyes and small animals living in your mane, endlessly nattering about race conditions and i/o buffers and interrupt latency and zero copy datapaths. it's the lowest, basest, most vulgar excuse for technology humans have ever produced. ...and it's the best thing we've got! give him a copy of mungi, nasm, ed, qscheme, structure and interpretation, a 386 laptop, and a swift horse to take these remnants of our culture to the promised land. -graydon _______________________________________________ Tek mailing list Tek@lists.semiotek.com http://lists.semiotek.com/mailman/listinfo/tek ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 15 07:13:04 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:00:14PM -0800 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Nick Moffitt: > > Canary yellow. > You'll be happy to know that the XFree86 Project is not infringing on MMM's "patent". /etc/X11/rgb.txt pedro From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 15 07:24:23 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:13:04AM -0600 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001215072423.B8063@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:13:04AM -0600, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > You'll be happy to know that the XFree86 Project is not infringing on > MMM's "patent". It's a trademark. Trademarks never expire, but patents do. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 15 08:02:26 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:44 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Re: [Tek] debian vs redhat] In-Reply-To: <20001215100419.G87899@samurai.com>; from bryanf@samurai.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:04:20AM -0500 References: <20001215100419.G87899@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20001216030226.M6829@aphid.net> <quote who="Bryan Fullerton"> > ----- Forwarded message from graydon@venge.net ----- > > the only way to handle unix is to become a large, smelly, bearded madman > with wild eyes and small animals living in your mane, endlessly nattering > about race conditions and i/o buffers and interrupt latency and zero copy > datapaths. Why do I hear this the day Dave Miller tells us (the linux.conf.au organisers) that the title of his written-on-the-plane keynote will be: "A Zero-copy and Delayed Fragment Reassembly Framework for Linux" <URL: http://linux.conf.au/papers/> Large? They say people look bigger in photos, so no. Smelly? Doubt it, but will find out soon enough. Bearded madman with wild eyes, OF BLOODY COURSE HE IS! - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- - What inspired you to become a bus driver? - Linus Torvalds. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 15 08:37:49 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: "Peter A. Peterson II"'s message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:13:04 -0600" References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <87wvd1iqsi.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: PAP> You'll be happy to know that the XFree86 Project is not PAP> infringing on MMM's "patent". PAP> /etc/X11/rgb.txt It's not the name of the color, but THE COLOR ITSELF, that is trademarked. This here "Lemon Chiffon" looks pretty damn actionable, if you aks me. I'm calling my lawyer. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 15 10:51:04 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Re: [Tek] debian vs redhat] In-Reply-To: <20001216030226.M6829@aphid.net>; from jdub@aphid.net on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 03:02:26AM +1100 References: <20001215100419.G87899@samurai.com> <20001216030226.M6829@aphid.net> Message-ID: <20001215105104.U11926@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > "A Zero-copy and Delayed Fragment Reassembly Framework for Linux" > > <URL: http://linux.conf.au/papers/> Don't tell me that Linux dorks are falling prey to this fallacy as well. Christ. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 15 10:51:11 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] licensing, shotguns Message-ID: <20001215105111.C11404@zgp.org> ----- Forwarded message from Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> ----- Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:01:46 -0500 From: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> Subject: Re: orphaning fetchmail To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Delivered-To: dmarti@zgp.org X-Envelope-Sender: branden@deadbeast.net Mail-Followup-To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Mail-Copies-To: never X-No-CC: I subscribe to this list; please do not CC me on replies. On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:31:09AM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > I hear the wheel was also not released under the GPL.... > > I hear that the wheel is not considered intellectual property. I hear that you can only deprogram a Randroid with a shotgun blast to the face. -- G. Branden Robinson | Human beings rarely imagine a god that Debian GNU/Linux | behaves any better than a spoiled child. branden@debian.org | -- Robert Heinlein http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 15 12:12:06 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Overlord) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <87wvd1iqsi.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> <87wvd1iqsi.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <00121515120602.05972@workstation> >>>>>>>>"MB" ===Mr.Bad On Friday 15 December 2000 11:37, wrote: > It's not the name of the color, but THE COLOR ITSELF, that is > trademarked. > > This here "Lemon Chiffon" looks pretty damn actionable, if you aks > me. > > I'm calling my lawyer. > > ~Mr. Bad So can they sue Mother nature?? What if im a kindergardener playing with paint ans water colors in my class and a 3M VP walks by and sees I have made and used thier color by mistake..Will they sue the school for providing me with the tools to infringe on thier trademark. -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From zen at zork.net Fri Dec 15 12:13:28 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <00121515120602.05972@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:12:06PM -0500 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> <87wvd1iqsi.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <00121515120602.05972@workstation> Message-ID: <20001215121328.D30000@zork.net> begin Overlord quotation: > So can they sue Mother nature?? See 3M v. Nature, 1986. > What if im a kindergardener playing with paint ans water colors in my class > and a 3M VP walks by and sees I have made and used thier color by > mistake..Will they sue the school for providing me with the tools to infringe > on thier trademark. No. They will sue YOUR ASS for being an evil patent violator. Next time you feel like mixing colors, try not to infringe on other people's right to INNOVATE, scumbag. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 15 12:14:51 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: <00121515120602.05972@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:12:06PM -0500 References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> <87wvd1iqsi.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <00121515120602.05972@workstation> Message-ID: <20001215121451.B20291@zork.net> begin Overlord quotation: > So can they sue Mother nature?? > What if im a kindergardener playing with paint ans water colors in > my class and a 3M VP walks by and sees I have made and used thier > color by mistake..Will they sue the school for providing me with the > tools to infringe on thier trademark. Blah blah blah. As we all know, trademarks are specific to a domain. Atari had trademarked the pac-man shape (circle with a wedge but out of one side and a hole near the other), but couldn't stop nabisco or frito-lay or whatever from making pac-man shaped cookies, since the trademark only applied to electronic entertainment etc. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 15 12:16:00 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: George Moffitt's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:13:28 -0800" References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> <87wvd1iqsi.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <00121515120602.05972@workstation> <20001215121328.D30000@zork.net> Message-ID: <87k891h24f.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "GM" == George Moffitt <zen@zork.net> writes: GM> No. They will sue YOUR ASS for being an evil patent GM> violator. Next time you feel like mixing colors, try not to GM> infringe on other people's right to INNOVATE, scumbag. Yeah, how's an American company supposed to COMPETE in the GLOBAL MARKET when bastardos like YOU think they can WALK OUT THE DOOR with their INVALUABLE INTELLECTUAL POOPERY!?!?! You hackers and thieves want everyone to share the information and colors and stuff and let's all be friends. Luckily, that's not the American way. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 15 12:58:59 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] British sue prodigy over patent infingment....They own the patent to huperlonks.. Message-ID: <00121515583204.05972@workstation> Apparently tthe british have managed to patent hyperlinks. Now they are suing prodigy calming that prodigy is violating thier patent. Is this the end of the free interet...... Will i have to punch in my creitcard numbers before clicking on a link that leads to my own website.... heh I think the Brits are finally learning the american way...sue sue sue claim sue sue.. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/15527.html http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1='4873662'.WKU.&OS=PN/4873662&RS=PN/4873662 -- One mans suffering is another mans bread.... Rules of natire... From kdoherty at cosanostra.net Fri Dec 15 12:58:14 2000 From: kdoherty at cosanostra.net (Kevin Doherty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <00121415331303.03331@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:33:13PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> Message-ID: <20001215155814.A21721@cosanostra.net> And thus spake Ariel Rosa, on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:33:13PM -0500: > On Thursday 14 December 2000 12:15, Kevin Doherty wrote: > > I was referring to the software, KMail, as a windows wannabe. It wouldn't > > make any sense to accuse someone of wanting to be an operating system, much > > less Windows. > > > > Oh, and learn how to reply, dipshit. > > Whats the problem with it. Does the job the way i like it. It's opensource, > free, stable, wont crash, extremely to configure, supports imports of email > databases from almost any email client. Hmmm it is graphical. It backgrounds > most operations. shurely has alot more features than most alternatives. Hmmm > All i have to do is hit reply and POOF there is a nice little windows ready And you neglected to include the list initially, thus my "learn how to reply, dipshit" comment. And you STILL haven't figured out how to list reply correctly (Here's a helpful hint: People on the list *already receive the messages*! Dumbfuck). > for me to input text in response to a dipshit like you. I bet your a console > die-hard right...like emacs?? Lets see it runs on gnome without a twitch (i > do run gnome). So I am wondering whats your problem with kmail. the way > i see > it it is better than the one your running. Yeah i like mutt it gets the job The way you see things is wrong. > done I use it at work but why shoul I restrict my self at home where I have > enough computer power to run all the GUI and ego pleasing eye candy I will > please tp run. Hmmmm... > Don't see any point to your argument, your just a follower one of those Have you LOOKED at the note the list appends to every message? here it is if you've forgotten: _______________________________________________ CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey Points: 1) As you can see from above, arguments here aren't supposed to make sense. 2) All I said was that KMail was a Windows-wannabe. 3) If I was going to really trash your mail client, I'd point out that GUI email clients only serve to encourage incorporation of GUI elements into what should be a fundamentally text-based medium. You're contributing to the downfall of society, you mindless sack of shit. 4) I read my mail on a single machine. All I need to read my mail in my client of choice is a net connection and a functional ssh, and if I have a functional Java VM, it's even easier because I can use mindterm. You're restricted to an X system, with KMail and its dependencies installed, and forced to use a shittyass network mail protocol like POP3 or IMAP or bound to a single machine for mail reading. Either way, you lose. 5) GET OFF MY LIST! > "console is everything and I love mutt" kinda people. I will take the > ridicule for running this "kmail" I like it. Atleast im not a folower...i > beat my own path. So stick to your little save haven following the pack keep Yeah, you beat your own path, just like all the other Slashdot individuals. > your little X86 machine and your mob indiced bias keep it to. Will take you Funny, the badge on the front of my workstation says Ultra 5. > no where. > Like it was said before "think out side the box" Like it was said before, "GET OFF MY LIST!" (BTW, am I allowed to say that?) -- Kevin Doherty, kdoherty@cosanostra.net "There's much to be said for laboring in obscurity" -- "Tilt-A-Whirl", Galactic Cowboys From danny at spesh.com Fri Dec 15 14:00:55 2000 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] British sue Prodigy over patent infringement. In-Reply-To: <00121515583204.05972@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:58:59PM -0500 References: <00121515583204.05972@workstation> Message-ID: <20001215220055.A39669@spesh.com> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:58:59PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > Apparently the British have managed to patent hyperlinks. Now they are > suing Prodigy, calming that Prodigy is violating their patent. > > Is this the end of the free Internet? Will I have to punch in my credit > card number before clicking on a link that leads to my own Website? > > Oh, it is to laugh. > > I think the Brits are finally learning the American > way. Sue, sue, sue. Claim. Sue. Sue. Heap my tribe in with those corporate multinational supra-imperial scumbuckets again, and I'll find a way to make you regret it. And don't think that without your puny Yankee hand-weapons we cannot execute our threats. The training the Bene Gesserit have provided our noble houses in The Accent will suffice for your swift devastation. d. -- "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to - Wait - What's this? Mechanical Men from the future? Materialising here, in the grounds of Monticello? Those Zaibatsu scum! Not enough constitutional power to fight them alone... Must reach the observatory - activate the Franklin Signal! Aiiieee!" - Thomas Jefferson From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 15 14:33:25 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canary yellow In-Reply-To: Don Marti's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 07:24:23 -0800" References: <20001214150014.R11926@zork.net> <20001215091304.F8442@flynn.zork.net> <20001215072423.B8063@zgp.org> Message-ID: <87hf45gvre.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "DM" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes: DM> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:13:04AM -0600, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: >> You'll be happy to know that the XFree86 Project is not >> infringing on MMM's "patent". DM> It's a trademark. Trademarks never expire, but patents do. They do if they're not defended. Patents remain in effect for their entire term, defended or not. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 15 14:35:09 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: Bernard's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:44:22 -0800" References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> Message-ID: <87d7etgvoi.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bernard <nutella@zork.net> writes: B> 14Dec2000 05:56PM (-0800) From [mr.bad@pigdog.org] mr.bad [Mr . Bad] >> OK, I'm hereby making a rule that everyone who speaks a crazy >> gubble-gubble moonman language B> I hope that includes you weirdos who speak Merkinese. Like switching B> to Esperanto would be, you know, like cool, dude. Not just cool, but HELLA COOL! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 15 14:36:18 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: George Moffitt's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:08:19 -0800" References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> <20001214193648.Y18589@zork.net> <20001214200819.B30000@zork.net> Message-ID: <878zphgvml.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "GM" == George Moffitt <zen@zork.net> writes: GM> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: >> If you take "y" as 0.5 vowel ("sometimes y"), then your last name has >> a higher average vowel density than his. GM> Wouldn't it be better to decide whether or not y is a vowel i GM> his name? It's not. Words where it is include fly, dragonfly and butterfly. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 15 14:39:33 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Re: [Tek] debian vs redhat] In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:51:04 -0800" References: <20001215100419.G87899@samurai.com> <20001216030226.M6829@aphid.net> <20001215105104.U11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <873dfpgvh6.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: >> "A Zero-copy and Delayed Fragment Reassembly Framework for Linux" MM> Don't tell me that Linux dorks are falling prey to this MM> fallacy as well. Christ. It's just a paper at conference, man. Everyone will clap, Linus will reject the patches and life will go on. Beaujolais! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 15 14:42:44 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] British sue prodigy over patent infingment....They own the patent to huperlonks.. In-Reply-To: "Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:58:59 -0500" References: <00121515583204.05972@workstation> Message-ID: <87wvd1fgrf.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> Apparently tthe british have managed to patent AVR> hyperlinks. Now they are suing prodigy calming that prodigy AVR> is violating thier patent. They should really be sueing Ted Nelson, Tim Berners-Lee and Richard Stallman. (If you can't figure out why I include rms, fuck off, okay?) -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 15 14:48:12 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: <878zphgvml.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:36:18PM +0000 References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> <20001214193648.Y18589@zork.net> <20001214200819.B30000@zork.net> <878zphgvml.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001215144812.C20291@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > GM> Wouldn't it be better to decide whether or not y is a vowel i > GM> his name? > > It's not. > > Words where it is include fly, dragonfly and butterfly. Er, no. constructions like "oy" and "ay" and "ey" are y in the vowel-sense. Constructions like "yo" and "ya" are y-consonant. Does it make a "yuh" sound or an open-mouthed "ay" sound? That's the test. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From zen at zork.net Fri Dec 15 16:48:02 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] British sue prodigy over patent infingment....They own the patent to huperlonks.. In-Reply-To: <00121515583204.05972@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:58:59PM -0500 References: <00121515583204.05972@workstation> Message-ID: <20001215164802.E30000@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: Who? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 15 17:42:51 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Do We Still Get to Vote on Where to Send Chris DiBona? In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "15 Dec 2000 22:35:09 +0000" References: <878zpilaqf.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214174911.X18589@zork.net> <874s06la6l.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001214184422.A635@zork.net> <87d7etgvoi.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <871yv9gmzo.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "PJC" == Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: PJC> Not just cool, but HELLA COOL! Eble vi volas diri, "INFERE FAJNA" au, "DIABLE FAJNA." ~S-o Malbona -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Dec 15 19:11:40 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001215155814.A21721@cosanostra.net>; from kdoherty@cosanostra.net on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:58:14PM -0500 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <0012132037590E.02136@workstation> <20001214121524.A7372@cosanostra.net> <00121415331303.03331@workstation> <20001215155814.A21721@cosanostra.net> Message-ID: <20001215221140.J87899@samurai.com> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:58:14PM -0500, Kevin Doherty <kdoherty@cosanostra.net> wrote: > (BTW, am I allowed to say that?) You lose. And you were doing so well up to this point, too. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From sirrmt at dingoblue.net.au Wed Dec 13 01:27:02 2000 From: sirrmt at dingoblue.net.au (Robert Thomson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] what the FUCK is that supposed to be? In-Reply-To: <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:19:55PM -0800 References: <20001212170425.E11926@zork.net> <00121301211100.01531@workstation> <20001212221955.L11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001213202702.A30085@quixote.quixote> Australian linux art: http://www.linux.org.au/projects/T-Shirt/winner.phtml Or more specifically: http://www.linux.org.au/projects/T-Shirt/designs/la-tux-brown.gif On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:19:55PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > Thes australian linux counterparts sure like abstract art....well if > > you can call it art. > > Any one know what it is??? > > To me it looks like some one screwd up and called it art. > > Austrian. It's Austrian. I'm amazed you can keep the > keyboard from short-circuiting, what with all the drooling you must > do. I envision the creature from Alien: drip, drip, drip, ooze... -- PGP Fingerprint: 0A 31 C9 3E 55 34 1C ED 4A D0 CD 47 2C EA E0 45 -- "An NT Server can be run by an idiot, and usually is" From aaronl at vitelus.com Sat Dec 16 14:14:47 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fwd: drawing performance Message-ID: <20001216141447.A22113@vitelus.com> ----- Forwarded message from Tomas Frydrych <tomas@frydrych.uklinux.net> ----- From: "Tomas Frydrych" <tomas@frydrych.uklinux.net> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:07:21 -0000 To: abiword-dev@abisource.com Subject: drawing performance X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) I think the the drawing performance could be significantly improved if the string library found in UT_strings is replaced with one hand-written in Assembler. Tomas ----- End forwarded message ----- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 16 16:05:32 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fwd: drawing performance In-Reply-To: Aaron Lehmann's message of "Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:14:47 -0800" References: <20001216141447.A22113@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <87lmtf6hf7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AL" == Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com> writes: AL> From: "Tomas Frydrych" <tomas@frydrych.uklinux.net> AL> Subject: drawing performance AL> To: abiword-dev@abisource.com AL> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:07:21 -0000 AL> I think the the drawing performance could be significantly improved AL> if the string library found in UT_strings is replaced with one AL> hand-written in Assembler. What the fuck is this supposed to signify? What the fuck is UT_strings? Who the fuck are you? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From jdub at aphid.net Sat Dec 16 16:09:49 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fwd: drawing performance In-Reply-To: <87lmtf6hf7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:05:32AM +0000 References: <20001216141447.A22113@vitelus.com> <87lmtf6hf7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001217110949.A32045@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <quote who="Paul J Collins"> > What the fuck is this supposed to signify? What the fuck is > UT_strings? Who the fuck are you? Looks like you left out, "GET THE FUCK OFF NICK'S LIST!" - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 16 16:36:38 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fwd: drawing performance In-Reply-To: Jeff Waugh's message of "Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:09:49 +1100" References: <20001216141447.A22113@vitelus.com> <87lmtf6hf7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001217110949.A32045@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <87itoj51ex.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@aphid.net> writes: JW> Looks like you left out, "GET THE FUCK OFF NICK'S LIST!" As far as I'm concerned, that's for Nick alone to demand. I know my place. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at namodn.com Sat Dec 16 16:46:10 2000 From: nick at namodn.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fwd: drawing performance In-Reply-To: <87itoj51ex.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:36:38AM +0000 References: <20001216141447.A22113@vitelus.com> <87lmtf6hf7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001217110949.A32045@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <87itoj51ex.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001216164610.B16031@claire.namodn.com> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:36:38AM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: > > As far as I'm concerned, that's for Nick alone to demand. I know my > place. > Get the FUCK off Nicks list! -- - Nick Jennings smtp: nick@namodn.com http: nick.namodn.com - From nick at namodn.com Sat Dec 16 17:06:38 2000 From: nick at namodn.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] In-Reply-To: <20000114200356.A15067@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 08:03:56PM -0800 References: <20000114105147.D29132@namodn.com> <Pine.LNX.4.04.10001141106450.24709-100000@spider.precognitive.com> <20000114200356.A15067@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001216170638.C16031@claire.namodn.com> On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 08:03:56PM -0800, Bernard wrote: > 14Jan2000 11:07AM (-0800) From [chris@dibona.com] chris [PopeMonkey] > > C'mon guys, I'm not popemonkey for nothing. > > Isn't this a cue for Nick II to come up with some kind of > comment about "kissing your ring"? > ok, it took me a while, but here it goes... "oh, so are we supposed to kiss your big fat ring now!?" Sorry for the delayed response, i've been thinking hard about this one. I was gonna fake to the left, but decided a right dip then cutting through the center would really take the opponent by surprise. touchdown! o o \ o o o \ o \ o \ o o \_______ / /--------- x-----/ -- - Nick Jennings smtp: nick@namodn.com http: nick.namodn.com - From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 17 15:02:27 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Egalitarian monkey health care Message-ID: <20001217150227.J20291@zork.net> http://www.nypress.com/content.cfm?content_id=3273 Grooming is clearly not solely part of the entertainment industry. Some fascinating research on capuchin monkeys of Central and South America by a Columbia University graduate student in anthropology, Ximena Valderrama, and several coauthors reveals that the animals have learned that if they smear their bodies with a kind of 4-inch millipede, the insects' chemicals with which they defend themselves also provide stronger insect repellency than any known human product. Since they live in an area afflicted with bountiful mosquitoes, their mastery of primate pharmacology provides remarkable benefit to their quality of life. These mosquitoes are not only as annoying as only mosquitoes can so vilely be, but also they carry the eggs of a miserable fly that lodges beneath the skin until they emerge as maggots, bringing infection and pain. To prevent all this, the capuchins rub the millipede over their entire bodies. They pass the desirable millipedes from one to the other, like a 1960s spliff. If an individual animal is unable to secure an insect of his own, he will rub his body against an already-repellent chum. While the animals are normally hierarchical about resources and grooming, in this matter they seem to be completely egalitarian. Everyone gets the medicine in a kind of universal monkey healthcare. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From whig at debian.org Mon Dec 18 07:51:39 2000 From: whig at debian.org (whig@debian.org) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] eToys fall down go boom Message-ID: <E1482Zf-0008PS-00@mirror.3dresearch.com> http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/001218/n18215996_2.html From bryanf at samurai.com Mon Dec 18 08:26:24 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] eToys fall down go boom In-Reply-To: <E1482Zf-0008PS-00@mirror.3dresearch.com>; from whig@debian.org on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:51:39AM -0500 References: <E1482Zf-0008PS-00@mirror.3dresearch.com> Message-ID: <20001218112624.Z87899@samurai.com> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:51:39AM -0500, whig@debian.org wrote: > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/001218/n18215996_2.html "Falling before the open was eToys Inc. (NasdaqNM:ETYS - news), which droped to 1/2 from $1-1/32." Droped, eh? Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 18 11:48:29 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Adobe forbids reading aloud. Message-ID: <20001218114829.L20291@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev@sleepycat.com> Forwarded-by: Adam Shand <larry@spack.org> From: Jon Callas <jon@callas.org> From: Art Medlar <art@brightmail.com> Subject: Adobe forbids reading aloud Glassbook [1] is Adobe's entry into the e-book sweepstakes. Downloading it, one finds a collection of free (beer) as well as non-free books available. Each book comes with a set of "permissions" outlining what may and may not be done with the book. These may be examined using the Glassbook's Info button. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is available [2]. Copyright expired who-all-knows how long ago. The etext was originally made freely (speech) available by Michael Hart at Project Gutenberg. It was reformatted for the Glassbook reader by VolumeOne (probably not the same organization as is at www.volumeone.com, but it's hard to tell). A set of restrictions was attached to the reformatted edition of the book. One may not copy, print, lend, or give the book away. But best of all, one is forbidden from reading the book aloud. A screen shot is here, containing both the standard copyright page (which explicitly acknowledges the debt to Project Gutenberg) as well as the "permissions" pop-up information: http://www.pigdogs.org/art/adobe.jpg Adobe replies to queries about the situation like this: "Unfortunately, we do not have enough information to correctly troubleshoot the issue. Please provide us with an exact copy of any errors that you are receiving so that we can properly assist you." I'm not familiar enough with the DMCA to tell if one of the standard tasks of parenthood is now a felony. --art [1] http://www.glassbook.com/ [2] http://bookstore.glassbook.com/store/product.asp?sku=09767748941 [Editor's note: I am familiar, and testified to Congress on it. The short answer is, "no." A longer answer would be that it would be a felony if you thwarted an effective technological means of protection. I can't think of anything that would be considered effective to prevent reading aloud. I'd even be willing to shout from an e-book in a public place to dare them to get me. However, a number of us who testified brought up the problem of content owners trying to get new, absurd rights. This one makes me rub my hands together with glee. When we talked about all the new, protected abuses the publishers might come up with, we never thought of this one. -- jdcc] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From schoen at loyalty.org Mon Dec 18 13:27:00 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:45 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Adobe forbids reading aloud. In-Reply-To: <20001218114829.L20291@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:48:29AM -0800 References: <20001218114829.L20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001218132700.J12328@zork.net> According to one account I heard, the "read aloud" permission refers to text-to-speech features of Adobe software: if the "read aloud" permission is granted, the text-to-speech features operated; if not, they don't. It doesn't have anything to do with _humans_ reading aloud from the screen. On the other hand, public performance of a copyrighted work is a copyright right. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/106.html -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 18 20:21:01 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! Message-ID: <20001218202101.M20291@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from "Mike, also known as a different Mike" <kupietz@greentortoise.com> ----- To: sf-caco@egroups.com, sf-caco-announce@egroups.com ============== Killer Game Dec. 18th, 8 pm. Meet at Vistouvios, located on Columbus @ Jack Kerouac Alley, North Beach Like to stalk your fellow man? Prey on their every more and then go in for the kill? Well is this the game for you! At the beginning of the game the players will meet and receive a picture, name, and phone number of another killer player who will be their 'prey'. Everyone hunts their target with plastic dart guns while also being hunted by someone else until only one person is left standing, winning a bottle of fine booze. We will meet at Vestuvios at 8pm and then move on to a secret location (just try to find us) at 8:20 (sharp) where the rules and regulations will be reviewed and each player will receive their mark. This Game could last a week or more, seeing that once it starts (on the 19th, after everyone's gone home from the meeting) there are no time outs, no defined playing field, no where to hide, no time to rest-- Who thought paranoia could be this much fun? Let the games begin! -- The San Francisco Cacophony Society http://www.zpub.com/caco/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From elharaty at utdallas.edu Mon Dec 18 23:12:29 2000 From: elharaty at utdallas.edu (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <20001218202101.M20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012190111040.5749-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from "Mike, also known as a different Mike" <kupietz@greentortoise.com> ----- > To: sf-caco@egroups.com, sf-caco-announce@egroups.com > > ============== > Killer Game > Dec. 18th, 8 pm. > Meet at Vistouvios, located on Columbus @ Jack Kerouac Alley, North Beach > so what happens when your local neighborhood psychopath decided to show and a stalk people there? they'll just think he's one of the players until he ends up killing them in the kitchen with a candlestick... -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Dec 18 23:21:32 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012190111040.5749-100000@apache.utdallas.edu>; from elharaty@utdallas.edu on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:12:29AM -0600 References: <20001218202101.M20291@zork.net> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012190111040.5749-100000@apache.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20001218232132.O20291@zork.net> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > so what happens when your local neighborhood psychopath decided to > show and a stalk people there? they'll just think he's one of the > players until he ends up killing them in the kitchen with a > candlestick... > > -- > Emad El-Haraty > If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. I'm afraid I'm going to have to report you to your professors. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From benb at iastate.edu Tue Dec 19 01:26:16 2000 From: benb at iastate.edu (Ben Brockert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! Message-ID: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> > Killer Game Ah, a fun one. I played it once, but the objective was to tap your target on the shoulder and whisper 'you're dead' without anyone else hearing you. This was at college five years ago or so, and bathrooms and the person's room were off- limits. It was called Assassination then, too. All you got was their name, and when you killed them they'd sign your piece of paper and give you theirs. You'd keep the signed paper for proof, then kill the next person. I was one of the last four or so players... then I couldn't go any further, because the person I was to kill found out that it was me, and so he always stayed in a big group of people... I've been contemplating starting a new round of it, for the fun of it, and to see if I can tick off the administration. I'm trying to decide the rules. I personally prefer the tap on shoulder thing, and the no bathroom or dorm room rules, just to keep it half civil. I'm thinking that everyone would pay, say, $5 to play, then get $3 or $4 for each person they kill. The final person would get the remainder (minus a small sum for me, for running the whole thing, of course). In Dave Barry's book 'Big Trouble' they played it, but they used waterguns, and the shooter had to have a witness. Good book, by the way, check it out some time. Ben From brian at collab.net Tue Dec 19 02:09:33 2000 From: brian at collab.net (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Fwd: Election Facts] Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012190208550.17906-100000@localhost> What happens when a president gets elected in a year with a "0" at the end? 1840: William Henry Harrison (Died in Office) 1860: Abraham Lincoln (Assassinated) 1880: James A. Garfield (Assassinated) 1900: William McKinley (Assassinated) 1920: Warren G. Harding (Died in Office) 1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Died in Office) 1960: John F. Kennedy (Assassinated) 1980: Ronald Reagan (Survived Assassination Attempt) From joakim at helixcode.com Tue Dec 19 06:35:07 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu>; from benb@iastate.edu on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:26:16AM +0000 References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:26:16AM +0000, Ben Brockert wrote: >> Killer Game > I've been contemplating starting a new round of it, for the fun of it, and to see > if I can tick off the administration. I'm trying to decide the rules. I > personally prefer the tap on shoulder thing, and the no bathroom or dorm room > rules, just to keep it half civil. I'm thinking that everyone would pay, say, $5 > to play, then get $3 or $4 for each person they kill. The final person would get > the remainder (minus a small sum for me, for running the whole thing, of course). I played Killer a few years ago, with rather liberal rules: Any replica weapon good enough to bring laughs, but bad enough to not be mistaken for the real thing was allowed, and no areas were off limits. I made a wonderful chainsaw out of cardboard, PVC tubing and pieces from an old mini vacuum cleaner, to make it roar suitably (sounded quite impressive since there was a lot of resonance in the main cardboard box). For the more subtle needs, I had a wooden katana. -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From pedro at flynn.zork.net Tue Dec 19 07:50:18 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com>; from joakim@helixcode.com on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 08:35:07AM -0600 References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> Message-ID: <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Joakim Ziegler: > >> Killer Game I ran a game when I was an RA in college, and I definitely irritated some of my superiors. In retrospect, I wish I would have played with "spoons", where you have to stab the subject with an ordinary table spoon. pedro From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Dec 19 09:34:58 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack Message-ID: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> Lapses in key discipline will no longer be tolerated. ----- Forwarded message from Dug Song <dugsong@MONKEY.ORG> ----- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:18:02 -0500 From: Dug Song <dugsong@MONKEY.ORG> Subject: sshmitm, webmitm To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Message-ID: <20001218101802.J26453@naughty.monkey.org> sshmitm and webmitm have been released as part of the new dsniff-2.3 package, available at: http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/ these tools perform simple active monkey-in-the-middle attacks against SSH and HTTPS, exploiting weak bindings in ad-hoc PKI. that is all. -d. --- http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From mdillon at standmed.com Tue Dec 19 09:51:31 2000 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0012190947020.4001-100000@prometheus.apt16.1525.russell.ci.berkeley.ca.us> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Don Marti wrote: > Lapses in key discipline will no longer be tolerated. > > ----- Forwarded message from Dug Song <dugsong@MONKEY.ORG> ----- > > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:18:02 -0500 > From: Dug Song <dugsong@MONKEY.ORG> > Subject: sshmitm, webmitm <snip> > that is all. > > -d. > > --- ^^^? i don't think this can be tolerated either (son of 1036 violation). i say we run this Dug Song character out on a rail. -md From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Dec 19 10:16:55 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0012190947020.4001-100000@prometheus.apt16.1525.russell.ci.berkeley.ca.us>; from mdillon@standmed.com on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:51:31AM -0800 References: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0012190947020.4001-100000@prometheus.apt16.1525.russell.ci.berkeley.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001219101655.C17499@zgp.org> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:51:31AM -0800, mike dillon wrote: > i don't think this can be tolerated either (son of 1036 violation). i say we > run this Dug Song character out on a rail. "Be conservative in what you send, and liberal in what you accept." - Don Marti dmarti@linuxjournal.com Technical Editor, Linux Journal 650-962-9601 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 19 10:19:27 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> References: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200012191819.eBJIJWh27169@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:34:58 -0800, Don Marti opined: > Lapses in key discipline will no longer be tolerated. Oh yeah. http://www.citi.umich.edu/dsniff.html There is a short thread on misc@openbsd.org, spawned by an article by Kurt Seifried on securityportal.com. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From samp at aztech-cs.com Tue Dec 19 10:29:44 2000 From: samp at aztech-cs.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Fwd: Election Facts] In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012190208550.17906-100000@localhost>; from brian@collab.net on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:09:33AM -0800 References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012190208550.17906-100000@localhost> Message-ID: <20001219102944.A472@aztech-cs.com> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:09:33AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > > What happens when a president gets elected in a year with a "0" at the > end? > > 1840: William Henry Harrison (Died in Office) > 1860: Abraham Lincoln (Assassinated) > 1880: James A. Garfield (Assassinated) > 1900: William McKinley (Assassinated) > 1920: Warren G. Harding (Died in Office) > 1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Died in Office) > 1960: John F. Kennedy (Assassinated) > 1980: Ronald Reagan (Survived Assassination Attempt) > But what about 1800: Thomas Jefferson 1820: James Monroe -- Sam Phillips <samp@aztech-cs.com> http://www.dasbistro.com/sdp Aztech Cyberspace Reno, Nevada From mr.bad at pigdog.org Tue Dec 19 11:09:54 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Fwd: Election Facts] In-Reply-To: Sam Phillips's message of "Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:29:44 -0800" References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012190208550.17906-100000@localhost> <20001219102944.A472@aztech-cs.com> Message-ID: <874s00ns71.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SP" == Sam Phillips <samp@aztech-cs.com> writes: SP> But what about SP> 1800: Thomas Jefferson 1800: Thomas Jefferson Cursed by fellow Freemasons for betraying the principles of One World Bank, Jefferson was kidnapped in 1803 and slain execution style (musket-ball to the nape of the wig) in a Delaware swamp. His body was dragged through the streets of Charleston behind a team of cholera-maddened horses and then fed to a troupe of (now-extinct) North American mandrills. His skeleton was buried skull-down in a hive of fire ants -- except, of course, for the heel bones, which were worn as cufflinks by Aaron Burr for the rest of his life. SP> 1820: James Monroe 1820: James Monroe Monroe's administration was decimated in 1822 by an invasion of time-travelling killbots from the year 2112. His wife, Dolly Madison, is remembered for saving the White House silverware, VCR and stereo from the ravaging bot army -- at the cost of her own rather gruesome death. Monroe himself was publicly liquidized margarita-style by a Cuisin-bot on the White House lawn and served to horrified D.C. citizens in fancy glasses with little paper umbrellas in them. Not until the election of Zachary Taylor in 1844 as Provisional Commandante of the Underground Resistance were the bot overlords ultimately vanquished (by teaching them to love). ~Mr. Bad P.S. d00d, you were stoned during American History classes, weren't you? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From geoperry at iww.org Tue Dec 19 14:34:34 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ?Whither <godhatesfigs>... ?infringement... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012191431400.29925-100000@iww.org> ... ?may be my computer. ?What happened. -g From jdub at aphid.net Tue Dec 19 14:37:23 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:50:18AM -0600 References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001220093723.B622@aphid.net> <quote who="Peter A. Peterson II"> > In retrospect, I wish I would have played with "spoons", where you have > to stab the subject with an ordinary table spoon. "Why a spoon?" - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net ----------------------------- http://lazarus.aphid.net/ -- "One World, one Web, one Browser." - Microsoft promotion "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Dec 19 14:53:50 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <200012191819.eBJIJWh27169@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:19:27PM -0500 References: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> <200012191819.eBJIJWh27169@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001219145350.K7756@linuxmafia.com> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > There is a short thread on misc@openbsd.org, spawned by an article by > Kurt Seifried on securityportal.com. Which I hope pointed out in adequate detail what a nitwit Seifried is. I get really tired of Seifried's the-sky-is-falling articles, which upon examination always turn out to regurgitate something we already knew, and sprinkle the result with inflammatory and misleading introductory material. So the security of SSH and SSL hinges on key management. Big fuckin' bunch of hot news, there, Kurt. And for _that_, we needed a "SSH is vulnerable to man in the middle" article? -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From bob at ruptured-duck.com Tue Dec 19 15:41:22 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <20001219145350.K7756@linuxmafia.com> References: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> <200012191819.eBJIJWh27169@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001219145350.K7756@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <200012192341.eBJNfch27331@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:53:50 -0800, Rick Moen opined: > Which I hope pointed out in adequate detail what a nitwit Seifried is. It was implied. The thread was short, to the point, and noted: 1) nothing really new here other than Dug Song's new dsniff version. 2) these stories always have headlines that beg for attention and then fail to deliver. 3) you _can_ administer SSH in a secure fashion, and you don't _have_ to exchange keys at connection time. > I get really tired of Seifried's the-sky-is-falling articles, which upon > examination always turn out to regurgitate something we already knew, > and sprinkle the result with inflammatory and misleading introductory > material. Kurt's middle name has always been: self-promotion. He's a species of a type the Linux world seems peculiarly susceptible to, sort of a reborn Barnum and Bailey huckster who seemingly hoists himself by his bootstraps into the center of our field of vision, from which location he refuses to budge. The guys who really know this stuff don't splash their names all over the damn web; they don't have to. > Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell Do the commies on this list know who Thomas Sowell is? <g> -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From pedro at flynn.zork.net Tue Dec 19 21:06:57 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <20001220093723.B622@aphid.net>; from jdub@aphid.net on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:37:23AM +1100 References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> <20001220093723.B622@aphid.net> Message-ID: <20001219230657.G9197@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Jeff Waugh: > "Why a spoon?" "Because it's fun to think about killing someone with a spoon." pedro From pedro at flynn.zork.net Tue Dec 19 21:12:23 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <20001219145350.K7756@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:53:50PM -0800 References: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> <200012191819.eBJIJWh27169@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001219145350.K7756@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001219231222.H9197@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Rick Moen: > So the security of SSH and SSL hinges on key management. Big fuckin' > bunch of hot news, there, Kurt. Especially when some implementations directly WARN YOU that you may be vulnerable to "man in the middle" attacks. I guess I will just go back to using the TELNET protocol as defined in the D.O.D. RFC 854. pedro From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 19 21:23:29 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] MITM attack In-Reply-To: <20001219231222.H9197@flynn.zork.net>; from pedro@flynn.zork.net on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:12:23PM -0600 References: <20001219093458.A17320@zgp.org> <200012191819.eBJIJWh27169@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001219145350.K7756@linuxmafia.com> <20001219231222.H9197@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <20001219212329.X20291@zork.net> begin Peter A. Peterson II quotation: > I guess I will just go back to using the TELNET protocol as defined > in the D.O.D. RFC 854. Wow, the DOD! It must really be secure, then! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Tue Dec 19 23:23:39 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet Message-ID: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Hey, have any of youse guys seen the Pigdog Journal in Freenet? http://www.pigdog.org/auto/liberty/link/1894.html Just wondering. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 20 08:28:18 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet In-Reply-To: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:23:39PM -0800 References: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001220082817.A922@zgp.org> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:23:39PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote: > > http://www.pigdog.org/auto/liberty/link/1894.html http://localhost:8081/SSK@u1AntQcZ81Y4c2tJKd1M87cZvPoQAgE/pigdog+journal/sign.gif You put the fucking GIF in there just so you would know people read it by them telling you to burn the fucking GIF. Oh, wait, you can't burn shit on Freenet. Not even GIFs. Fuck. -- Don Marti Non aux Brevets Logiciels dmarti@zgp.org http://petition.eurolinux.org/ http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ No to Software Patents Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From nick at zork.net Wed Dec 20 10:43:48 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de: Re: [Pigdog] Hillbilly Science Question] Message-ID: <20001220104348.B20291@zork.net> You hear that? 40% is CANONICAL for vodka! FOLLOW THE CANON LAW OR PERISH. ----- Forwarded message from Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de ----- Ben Brockert wrote: > Actually, now that I think about it, I think you are right, but the > difference would be minimal. The water would go up because salt > water is more dense than fresh water. Mixing salt and fresh water is nonlinear in respect to volume. This is even more apparent if you mix alcohol and water. In fact Mendeleev did his Ph.D. on alcohol/water mixes, coming up with the canonical 40% for vodka. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From julesa at pcf.com Wed Dec 20 11:12:16 2000 From: julesa at pcf.com (Jules Agee) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de: Re: [Pigdog]Hillbilly Science Question] References: <20001220104348.B20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <3A410490.12F5678E@pcf.com> Ever seen a Commie drink water? POE. Nick Moffitt wrote: > > You hear that? 40% is CANONICAL for vodka! FOLLOW THE CANON > LAW OR PERISH. -- Jules Agee System Administrator O> Pacific Coast Feather Co. / ) julesa@pcf.com x284 X From nick at zork.net Wed Dec 20 13:29:57 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [geoperry@iww.org: [Pigdog] <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing12/18/gates.movie.idg/index.html>] Message-ID: <20001220132957.D20291@zork.net> Hahaha. CNN Hax0r3d. A note to the k2dd13: Gates is no longer CEO. That's Ballmer now. Thank you. ----- Forwarded message from "George J.P. Perry" <geoperry@iww.org> ----- I dunno' it *looks* like cnn. -g <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing> ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 20 13:40:43 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [geoperry@iww.org: [Pigdog] <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing12/18/gates.movie.idg/index.html>] In-Reply-To: <20001220132957.D20291@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:29:57PM -0800 References: <20001220132957.D20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001220134043.E20291@zork.net> Note the Zirc ad at the top, as well. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Dec 20 13:46:21 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [geoperry@iww.org: [Pigdog] <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing12/18/gates.movie.idg/index.html>] In-Reply-To: <20001220132957.D20291@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:29:57PM -0800 References: <20001220132957.D20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001220134621.F20291@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > ----- Forwarded message from "George J.P. Perry" <geoperry@iww.org> ----- > > I dunno' it *looks* like cnn. -g > > <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing> > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- Ahaaa. Okay, so now I see the @ sign in there. Lame as fsck. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Wed Dec 20 18:40:52 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet In-Reply-To: <20001220082817.A922@zgp.org> References: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001220082817.A922@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200012210240.eBL2ewh07418@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:28:18 -0800, Don Marti opined: > Oh, wait, you can't burn shit on Freenet. Not even GIFs. Fuck. Freenet == GIFs 4EVA -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From aaronl at vitelus.com Wed Dec 20 19:45:29 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] This judge is UNFAIR Message-ID: <20001220194529.A29975@vitelus.com> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1080000/1080639.stm From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Dec 20 23:20:39 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:46 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Unloved by ILUG Message-ID: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com> Hey, I've been flamed by Irish Linux users! My day is complete. From aaronl at vitelus.com Thu Dec 21 00:11:59 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Unloved by ILUG In-Reply-To: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:20:39PM -0800 References: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001221001159.A30948@vitelus.com> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:20:39PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > >From Gary.McCloskey@rte.ie Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:09:09 -0000 > >From brendan.halpin@ul.ie Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:18:11 +0000 (GMT) > >From wesley@blackstar.co.uk Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:32:29 +0000 > >From akawaka@csn.ul.ie Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:44:00 +0000 > >From fergal@esatclear.ie Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:17:39 +0000 > > [There you have it, folks: The OSD should be ignored whenever it's > inconvenient, and the term "open source" can be handily adapted to mean > whatever you wish it to.] [There you have it, folks: We should _never_ set the encode_from option to yes in our mutt configuration files.] From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Dec 21 04:15:14 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Unloved by ILUG In-Reply-To: <20001221001159.A30948@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 12:11:59AM -0800 References: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com> <20001221001159.A30948@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20001221041514.B2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Aaron Lehmann quotation: > [There you have it, folks: We should _never_ set the encode_from > option to yes in our mutt configuration files.] That was done by a downstream MUA, not by mutt. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Dec 21 05:39:26 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Unloved by ILUG In-Reply-To: <20001221041514.B2558@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 04:15:14AM -0800 References: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com> <20001221001159.A30948@vitelus.com> <20001221041514.B2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001221053926.D2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Rick Moen quotation: > That was done by a downstream MUA, not by mutt. ^ Make that MTA. (Lord, it's fuckin' early.) -- Cheers, Long ago, there lived a creature with a Rick Moen voice like a vacuum cleaner. We know little rick@linuxmafia.com about it, but we do know that it ate cats. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 21 08:53:54 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Unloved by ILUG In-Reply-To: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:20:39PM -0800 References: <20001220232039.D6409@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001221085354.L20291@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > >From akawaka@csn.ul.ie Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:36:36 +0000 > bejasus. HAW HAW HAW! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From schoen at loyalty.org Thu Dec 21 10:38:04 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Goddamn spaz-boy. In-Reply-To: <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:27:58AM -0800 References: <20001212223530.N11926@zork.net> <00121314160502.02136@workstation> <20001213111454.W11926@zork.net> <00121314214803.02136@workstation> <20001213112758.X11926@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001221103804.B23787@zork.net> Monkey Master writes: > begin Arie V. Rosa quotation: > > This like the matrix question....the blue pill or the red pilll > > hmmm..... > > No. No it is not. > > This blue pill/red pill shit is the biggest pile of postmodern > marketing bullshit I've seen in a LONG TIME. > > Purportedly, it's all about escape from everyday humdrum > existence, but it's all coming from a unified pop-culture source. > What the hell could POSSIBLY be more humdrum and everyday than a > big-ass mondo-budget MPAA flick? > > Sir, you have LOST. You have rebelled in the tiny box > provided, and there are no air holes. The researchers and pollsters > are scribbling on their clipboards AS I TYPE, and you'll soon find > yourself reduced to a DEMOGRAPHIC. "And if you must put me in a box Make sure it's a _big_ box..." -- Dan Bern, "Jerusalem" By the way, _Commodify Your Dissent: Salvos from The Baffler_ (edited by Thomas Frank, an interview with whom was linked to by Don recently) is _amazing_ -- and I speak as an _East Bay Express_-certified "former member of the Libertarian Party" (because it wasn't libertarian enough for me, doncha know). One of the very best books I've read all year. Hmmmm, maybe I should make a list -- the year is drawing to a close. I bought the last autographed copy of _One Market Under God_ at City Lights (Frank brags therein about being an Enemy of the Future). Speaking of which, Nick, come by if you can, because I still have a Christmas present for you. And City Lights has two _Commodify_s left: if you hurry, you can acquire one for that special leftist in your life. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 21 11:13:28 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Unsubscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001221111328.M20291@zork.net> nilpotent == impotent ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- silence-crackmonkey@nilpotent.org has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 21 11:16:44 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Xmas Puds can blow up home] Message-ID: <20001221111644.N20291@zork.net> Fucking English and their puds. ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: InfoSec News <isn@c4i.org> http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13253848 By JOHN SCOTT THURSDAY, 21 DECEMBER, 2000 CHRISTMAS puddings can explode if left too long in the microwave - causing a blast big enough to rip through a HOUSE, experts warn. Fruit, sugar and trapped water can react violently when over-heated and the bang can spark a major fire. A woman of 49 needed hospital treatment when her pud blew up, and fire crews have reported a string of blazes caused by people ignoring cooking instructions. David Jenkins, of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, said: "People must realise that they are dealing with a potential explosive when they put puddings in the microwave. "It seems comical but they could cause a blast capable of ripping through any home and leave a big hole in the festivities." Malcolm Westwood, of West Midlands fire service, added: "People leave puds to cook while they go and enjoy themselves but it's important to keep an eye on them. They can go into orbit if over-cooked." Lancashire fire spokesman John Taylor, said: "Most Christmas call-outs are cooking-related. There has been a spate involving puds." ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From smb23 at csufresno.edu Thu Dec 21 11:55:37 2000 From: smb23 at csufresno.edu (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Possible anti-DVD alias Message-ID: <2d17e32d44e0.2d44e02d17e3@scccd.org> "The movie studio is claiming that many of the fan Web sites violate its intellectual-property rights and is demanding the domain names be surrendered." http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2667273-2,00.html Now all we have to do is somehow get the 30 million Harry Potter readers to stand outside movie houses protesting against the evil studios. Steve From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 21 15:26:57 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] goddamn troll-boy Message-ID: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net> <aargh> alright, anyone know how to get rid of the top menubar in gnome-helix? <aaronl> aargh: yes <aaronl> aargh: get rid of all your gnome crap <aargh> aaronl: going to any conventions in the future? <aaronl> aargh: of gnome-haters? <aargh> no. i figure ill break my rule of never going to conventions so i can kick the shit out of you -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From kdoherty at cosanostra.net Thu Dec 21 15:55:33 2000 From: kdoherty at cosanostra.net (Kevin Doherty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The art of body modification in housepets Message-ID: <20001221185533.A2520@cosanostra.net> http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ Apparently the hatemail these guys receive is incredibly amusing. -- Kevin Doherty, kdoherty@cosanostra.net "There's much to be said for laboring in obscurity" -- "Tilt-A-Whirl", Galactic Cowboys From dtype at dtype.org Thu Dec 21 16:01:36 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Party like it's 1999... again Message-ID: <20001222000136.A21927@dtype.org> Party like it's 1999... again. I'd like to announce the place to be for those that feel they need a running start at the new millenium. There should be plenty of time to recover before heading off to the New Year's parties. Date: Saturday, December 30 (New Year's Eve-Eve) Time: 8pm until sometime on Sunday, Dec 31 Place: The house and bar of Drew, Dom, James, Brian, and Quentin 564 Alcalde Ct Fremont, CA 94539 510-226-6851 http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=564+Alcalde+Ct&city=Fremont&state=CA Attire: Yes, Please. There will be: * A fully stocked bar * Many liquored up bartenders * Guinness and Bass on tap ** Outdoor Jacuzzi (icing on the cake) * Pretty damn big house * Great music, lots of people, some of which don't even work in the Tech sector. Bring friends, spouses, and co-workers. Australians are discouraged but tolerated. Please bring a designated driver or plan to spend the night. Questions to 510.226.6851 or my cell at 408.621.7062. -drew -- ------- Drew Streib <d@valinux.com> 510.687.6725 Technical Marketing Manager, VA Linux Systems | <dtype@valinux.com> Founding Developer, SourceForge | <dtype@sourceforge.net> System Administrator, Linux International | <dtype@li.org> From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 21 16:02:32 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Party like it's 1999... again In-Reply-To: <20001222000136.A21927@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:01:36AM +0000 References: <20001222000136.A21927@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001221160232.U20291@zork.net> begin M. Drew Streib quotation: >http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=564+Alcalde+Ct&city=Fremont&state=CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dtype at dtype.org Thu Dec 21 16:09:55 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Party like it's 1999... again In-Reply-To: <20001221160232.U20291@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 04:02:32PM -0800 References: <20001222000136.A21927@dtype.org> <20001221160232.U20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001222000955.C21927@dtype.org> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 04:02:32PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > begin M. Drew Streib quotation: > >http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=564+Alcalde+Ct&city=Fremont&state=CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA! When life gives you lemons, make spiked lemonade. -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From aaronl at vitelus.com Thu Dec 21 16:46:52 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] goddamn troll-boy In-Reply-To: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:26:57PM -0800 References: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:26:57PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > <aargh> alright, anyone know how to get rid of the top menubar in > gnome-helix? > <aaronl> aargh: yes > <aaronl> aargh: get rid of all your gnome crap > <aargh> aaronl: going to any conventions in the future? > <aaronl> aargh: of gnome-haters? > <aargh> no. i figure ill break my rule of never going to conventions > so i can kick the shit out of you You're posting THAT when you missed my flamewar on GimpNET going on at the same time??? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 21 17:19:32 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] goddamn troll-boy In-Reply-To: <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com>; from aaronl@vitelus.com on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 04:46:52PM -0800 References: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net> <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <20001221171932.W20291@zork.net> begin Aaron Lehmann quotation: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:26:57PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > <aargh> no. i figure ill break my rule of never going to conventions > > so i can kick the shit out of you > > You're posting THAT when you missed my flamewar on GimpNET going on at > the same time??? Yeah, but Derek's such a sweetie, normally. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sirrmt at dingoblue.net.au Thu Dec 21 17:58:06 2000 From: sirrmt at dingoblue.net.au (Robert Thomson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The art of body modification in housepets In-Reply-To: <20001221185533.A2520@cosanostra.net>; from kdoherty@cosanostra.net on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 06:55:33PM -0500 References: <20001221185533.A2520@cosanostra.net> Message-ID: <20001222125806.A8650@quixote.quixote> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 06:55:33PM -0500, Kevin Doherty wrote: > http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ > > Apparently the hatemail these guys receive is incredibly amusing. The hatemail's terribly unjustified. My bonsai kitten is quite happy, and OH SO cute. I couldn't ever own an unmoulded cat ever again. Loving bonsaikitten.com, rmt. -- Bonsaiaj katidoj estas la oficialaj hejmbestoj de la esperanta movado. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Thu Dec 21 18:28:45 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] goddamn troll-boy In-Reply-To: <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com> References: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net> <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com> Message-ID: <200012220229.eBM2T1h12038@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:46:52 -0800, Aaron Lehmann opined: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:26:57PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > <aargh> alright, anyone know how to get rid of the top menubar in > > gnome-helix? > You're posting THAT when you missed my flamewar on GimpNET going on at > the same time??? Ok, we all give up. How do you get rid of it? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From joakim at helixcode.com Thu Dec 21 19:32:04 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] goddamn troll-boy In-Reply-To: <200012220229.eBM2T1h12038@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:28:45PM -0500 References: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net> <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com> <200012220229.eBM2T1h12038@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001221213203.F8073@helixcode.com> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:28:45PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:46:52 -0800, Aaron Lehmann opined: >> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:26:57PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: >>> <aargh> alright, anyone know how to get rid of the top menubar in >>> gnome-helix? >> You're posting THAT when you missed my flamewar on GimpNET going on at >> the same time??? > Ok, we all give up. How do you get rid of it? Right click on it, select panel->remove this panel from the popup menu. -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From bob at ruptured-duck.com Thu Dec 21 20:11:46 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] goddamn troll-boy In-Reply-To: <20001221213203.F8073@helixcode.com> References: <20001221152657.R20291@zork.net> <20001221164651.A5306@vitelus.com> <200012220229.eBM2T1h12038@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001221213203.F8073@helixcode.com> Message-ID: <200012220411.eBM4Bsh12072@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:32:04 -0600, Joakim Ziegler opined: > Right click on it, select panel->remove this panel from the popup menu. Oh poo. I thought, since someone asked somewhere presumably cool since it got posted here if anyone knew how to do it that I would be let in on some arcane Gnomish mystery but noooo it turns out to be braindead simple but who cares since even thoughI was always annoyed by that top panel it was not so much so that I wanted to _ask_ someone how to get rid of it cause I'm sure I could have figured it out if I really wanted to, right? Right? But thanks for a civil reply that was intended to be helpful; what a rarity around here. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 22 08:16:57 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark Message-ID: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> HYPE OF THE YEAR: NAPSTER If you believed all the media hype (or Metallica) in Y2K, one fact seemed inevitable: Napster, "The Little Program That Could," was ready to bring the record industry to its knees. But if you actually sat down at a computer and tested that theory for yourself, you probably realized the only thing Napster was going to bring to its knees was its users -- in a torrent of frustrated tears and gnashing teeth. As even the Gobi Desert's most far-flung Bedouin knows by now, Napster is a file-sharing program that gives free access to music files on the hard drives of any of its users. "Any song. Any time. Free," as Time gushes -- yours just for the taking. All you need's a computer and modem. And the patience of a Cubs fan. And more time to kill than an inmate locked down in solitary. And, most importantly, a big-ass masochistic streak. To wit: You find that elusive track you'd give your left gonad (or ovary) for. You get 88% of it downloaded, at the speed of soil erosion. Almost home, heh heh! And then comes the phrase that's Napster's own version of "I like you a lot -- as a friend." In other words, "Transfer Error" -- and all your anticipation is time down the crapper. Nothing quite like it -- except trying it all over again and getting the exact same result. After the twentieth time, you find yourself wondering if some of your fellow Napsterites aren't just sick bastards who log off on purpose when they see they've got you on the hook for a song. As you sit there sobbing, some 15-year-old kid in Newark or Tokyo is laughing his ass off. If Napster's a game for some people, though, it's dead-ass serious for others. Just peek into the meticulously organized libraries of certain Napster users for a glimpse of the dark side. Yes, I appreciate all the hours they've spent uploading their entire CD collections for lazy, non-file-sharing hypocrites like me to swipe. But they remind me a little too much of the guys who spent years committing their whole vinyl collections to cassette. Remember them? Remember going to their houses, seeing the stacks and stacks of carefully hand-lettered tape boxes, and wanting to yak just thinking how much life they'd wasted? Remember wanting to shake them into submission, while screaming: "For Christ's sake, go outside and flash some kids! Make a new friend at the bus depot! Or stare into the sun! But STOP DOING THIS SHIT!" Of course, in a Napster world I can overlook the pathology -- if they've got that rare Scritti Politti track I need. If I can get it, that is. The days of the 88-percent Napster blue-balling will be with us for a while yet. But even the most cynical Luddite can't argue this point: 2000 was the year Napster caught the record industry with its fly open, and changed the music biz forever, for better or worse. I say for the better. Especially if I ever catch that little prick in Newark. -- Dan LeRoy From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 22 10:07:40 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <00122213074000.08543@workstation> Sounds like a rant more than somethig informative, heh that ok. I like napster..liek metallica to..well thier music.. Oh and this guy need to get a dsl line...napster wasn't meant to be a client on a 56K line. On Friday 22 December 2000 11:16, Peter A. Peterson II wrote: > HYPE OF THE YEAR: > NAPSTER > If you believed all the media hype (or Metallica) in Y2K, one fact > seemed inevitable: Napster, "The Little Program That Could," was ready > to bring the record industry to its knees. But if you actually sat down > at a computer and tested that theory for yourself, you probably realized > the only thing Napster was going to bring to its knees was its users -- > in a torrent of frustrated tears and gnashing teeth. > > As even the Gobi Desert's most far-flung Bedouin knows by now, Napster > is a file-sharing program that gives free access to music files on the > hard drives of any of its users. "Any song. Any time. Free," as Time > gushes -- yours just for the taking. All you need's a computer and > modem. And the patience of a Cubs fan. And more time to kill than an > inmate locked down in solitary. And, most importantly, a big-ass > masochistic streak. > > To wit: You find that elusive track you'd give your left gonad (or > ovary) for. You get 88% of it downloaded, at the speed of soil erosion. > Almost home, heh heh! And then comes the phrase that's Napster's own > version of "I like you a lot -- as a friend." In other words, "Transfer > Error" -- and all your anticipation is time down the crapper. > > Nothing quite like it -- except trying it all over again and getting the > exact same result. After the twentieth time, you find yourself wondering > if some of your fellow Napsterites aren't just sick bastards who log off > on purpose when they see they've got you on the hook for a song. As you > sit there sobbing, some 15-year-old kid in Newark or Tokyo is laughing > his ass off. > > If Napster's a game for some people, though, it's dead-ass serious for > others. Just peek into the meticulously organized libraries of certain > Napster users for a glimpse of the dark side. Yes, I appreciate all the > hours they've spent uploading their entire CD collections for lazy, > non-file-sharing hypocrites like me to swipe. But they remind me a > little too much of the guys who spent years committing their whole vinyl > collections to cassette. Remember them? Remember going to their houses, > seeing the stacks and stacks of carefully hand-lettered tape boxes, and > wanting to yak just thinking how much life they'd wasted? Remember > wanting to shake them into submission, while screaming: "For Christ's > sake, go outside and flash some kids! Make a new friend at the bus > depot! Or stare into the sun! But STOP DOING THIS SHIT!" Of course, in a > Napster world I can overlook the pathology -- if they've got that rare > Scritti Politti track I need. > > If I can get it, that is. The days of the 88-percent Napster > blue-balling will be with us for a while yet. But even the most cynical > Luddite can't argue this point: 2000 was the year Napster caught the > record industry with its fly open, and changed the music biz forever, > for better or worse. > > I say for the better. Especially if I ever catch that little prick in > Newark. > > -- Dan LeRoy > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- Missing In Action From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 10:33:43 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: "Peter A. Peterson II"'s message of "Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:50:18 -0600" References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <87itocmhko.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: PAP> In retrospect, I wish I would have played with "spoons", PAP> where you have to stab the subject with an ordinary table PAP> spoon. I find a sharpened spork an efficient way of dispatching a mark. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 22 10:53:42 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <87itocmhko.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 06:33:43PM +0000 References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> <87itocmhko.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001222105342.X20291@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > I find a sharpened spork an efficient way of dispatching a mark. I'll bust a cap in yo' ass. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 22 11:01:08 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122213074000.08543@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 01:07:40PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Sounds like a rant more than somethig informative, heh that ok. > I like napster..liek metallica to..well thier music.. > Oh and this guy need to get a dsl line...napster wasn't meant to be > a client on a 56K line. [70 lines of shit we ALREADY READ deleted] Listen up, you illiterate dipshit. We spent MONTHS house-training Deirdre to trim her e-mail quotations, and it took rather a lot out of us. If you're going to: 1) include large posts verbatim 2) act like an SUV-wielding mid-level manager and include your quotations at the fucking BOTTOM of your message 3) post inane gubble-gubble about what you like, don't like, and purchasing larger net pipes ...then GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 11:15:17 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:53:42 -0800" References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> <87itocmhko.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001222105342.X20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <87elz0mfne.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> begin Paul J Collins quotation: >> I find a sharpened spork an efficient way of dispatching a >> mark. MM> I'll bust a cap in yo' ass. You gutta punk, I'll have my homies on you so fast your dreads will fall off. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 11:19:33 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "20 Dec 2000 21:40:52 EST" References: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001220082817.A922@zgp.org> <200012210240.eBL2ewh07418@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87ae9omfga.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: BB> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:28:18 -0800, Don Marti opined: >> Oh, wait, you can't burn shit on Freenet. Not even GIFs. >> Fuck. BB> Freenet == GIFs 4EVA If no-one looks them up, they'll fall out of Freenet, won't they? Isn't that part of the way it works? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 22 11:34:30 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation Message-ID: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> All right, so we've discussed already the incredible problem of forbidden colors in the visible spectrum. I think we need to stop this creeping intellectual propertyism before it gets out of hand and we have to agree to blink-through-licenses in order to pass signals in the non-free spectrum from our rods and cones back through our optic nerves to our brains, where we are allowed to make one (1) copy of the color for archival purposes only. (Describing the color to another party is right out.) OK, so here's the plan: I intend to start a Free Software Foundation-style organization called the Free Color Foundation. Their goal would be to trademark as many colors as possible and allow them to be used freely with a GPL-style license. I'm thinking a good place to start would be the 216 browser-safe colors that everyone uses on the Web. Of course, to trademark anything, you need to use it for business. So, I'm thinking that the FCF makes and sells colored schwag, like T-shirts. The T-shirts say on the front something like: Cornflower is a trademark of the Free Color Foundation. It is licensed to you under a copyleft-style agreement. and on the back it says: Free Color Foundation Join Us Now and Share the Colors http://www.freecolor.org/ Of course, all trademarks would be vigorously defended in court. Comments or suggestions? ~Mr. Bad P.S. Yeah, I realize I'm running a few wack-ass projects behind. Bear with me! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From elisix at zork.net Fri Dec 22 12:08:51 2000 From: elisix at zork.net (Elise Shapiro) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:01:08AM -0800 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001222120851.A21715@zork.net> begin Monkey Master quotation: > > ...then GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST Yeah. Like Amy Abascal (who left as a result of .sig file trimming violations, or some such issue.) -elise. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 22 12:41:36 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122215413600.08772@workstation> On Friday 22 December 2000 14:01, Monkey Master wrote: MM> [70 lines of shit we ALREADY READ deleted] MM> MM> Listen up, you illiterate dipshit. We spent MONTHS MM> house-training Deirdre to trim her e-mail quotations, and it took MM> rather a lot out of us. If you're going to: MM> MM> 1) include large posts verbatim MM> 2) act like an SUV-wielding mid-level manager and include your MM> quotations at the fucking BOTTOM of your message MM> 3) post inane gubble-gubble about what you like, don't like, MM> and purchasing larger net pipes MM> MM> ...then GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST IS this better fo you dip-shit? Ok write me a blank check and enclose it in a wood box coverd in titanium foil with plutonium stuffign inside. Then address it to me. That might get me of your list, but i think i will send it back iritating you is worth more to me than any amount of money. Oh don't like SUV's and for the managment thing ehh rather stick to being the owner. my little fortune 000 company.... Can't belive you really counted the lines...hehe have a coupel of these http://www.turds.com Call em in the morning. -- Missing In Action From pedro at flynn.zork.net Fri Dec 22 12:40:41 2000 From: pedro at flynn.zork.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: <87elz0mfne.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:15:17PM +0000 References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> <87itocmhko.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001222105342.X20291@zork.net> <87elz0mfne.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001222144041.V9197@flynn.zork.net> Quoting Paul J Collins: > You gutta punk, I'll have my homies on you so fast your dreads will > fall off. http://crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q2/010091.html pedro From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 22 13:00:48 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:47 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122215413600.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:41:36PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> Ariel V. Rosa writes: > IS this better fo you dip-shit? Ok write me a blank check and enclose it in a > wood box coverd in titanium foil with plutonium stuffign inside. Then address > it to me. I don't think you want Nick to send you plutonium. At least, not in a wood box. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 22 13:06:13 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122215413600.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:41:36PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222130613.A20291@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > On Friday 22 December 2000 14:01, Monkey Master wrote: > MM> 3) post inane gubble-gubble about what you like, don't like, > MM> and purchasing larger net pipes > MM> > MM> ...then GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST [...] > Oh don't like SUV's and for the managment thing ehh rather stick to > being the owner. BZZT. Now where's that unsubscribe notice? > Can't belive you really counted the lines...hehe "Never send a man to do a computer's job." See, I don't know about your precious little clicky-clicky KDE mailer, but I happen to write everything in vim. And when I do, I keep line numbers on. So, I moved to line 21 and hit d}, which deleted the next paragraph (since it was a quotation, it was all one paragraph in vim's eyes). It then told me, "70 lines deleted". -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From dhd at eradicator.org Fri Dec 22 13:03:09 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <87wvcsi2ya.fsf@monolith.cepstral.com> "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: > Can't belive you really counted the lines...hehe Well, if you were in the habit of paying attention to the mail you send and receive, you'd notice a funny little thing called the 'Lines' header. Kind of like this: Lines: 74 Then, since the actual *body* of your message was so short: > Sounds like a rant more than somethig informative, heh that ok. > I like napster..liek metallica to..well thier music.. > Oh and this guy need to get a dsl line...napster wasn't meant to be a client > on a 56K line. ...anyone can see that there were 4 lines of actual text. So, you could simply subtract the number of lines of *actual* text from the number of lines of *quoted* text, using simple arithmetical techniques they may have taught you in elementary school. If necessary, you could use pen and paper, or even a calculator (after all, you're being tested on your comprehension of the concepts involved, not on rote number-crunching ability). On the other hand, we all know that Nick has no life, so yes, he probably used his abacus to meticulously count every line of quoted text in your message. Have a nice day. (and please fix your keyboard, the frequency of missing and incorrect letters is very distracting) -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@eradicator.org From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 13:15:52 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Killer! In-Reply-To: "Peter A. Peterson II"'s message of "Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:40:41 -0600" References: <200012190726.BAA06022@mailhub.iastate.edu> <20001219083507.A2280@helixcode.com> <20001219095018.D9197@flynn.zork.net> <87itocmhko.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001222105342.X20291@zork.net> <87elz0mfne.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001222144041.V9197@flynn.zork.net> Message-ID: <873dfgma2f.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "PAP" == Peter A Peterson <pedro@flynn.zork.net> writes: PAP> Quoting Paul J Collins: >> You gutta punk, I'll have my homies on you so fast your dreads >> will fall off. PAP> http://crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q2/010091.html But I'm trying to invoke stereotypes, not avoid them. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 13:18:04 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation In-Reply-To: Mr.Bad's message of "22 Dec 2000 11:34:30 -0800" References: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87y9x8kveb.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> writes: B> OK, so here's the plan: I intend to start a Free Software B> Foundation-style organization called the Free Color B> Foundation. Their goal would be to trademark as many colors as B> possible and allow them to be used freely with a GPL-style B> license. I'm thinking a good place to start would be the 216 B> browser-safe colors that everyone uses on the Web. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt is a more complete starting point. Those fools at the X Consortium! All those colours, left lying innocently in the complacent shade of the public domain! HAHAHAHAHA! -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 22 13:55:27 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation In-Reply-To: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:34:30AM -0800 References: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001222135527.V2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Mr . Bad quotation: > P.S. Yeah, I realize I'm running a few wack-ass projects behind. > Bear with me! I believe you misspelled "Beer with me". HTH. HAND. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 22 14:00:19 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122215413600.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:41:36PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222140019.X2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > hehe Get off my planet. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 22 14:06:40 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: Rick Moen's message of "Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:00:19 -0800" References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <20001222140019.X2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <873dfg9klr.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes: AVR> hehe RM> Get off my planet. "If they elect Rick Moen as Planetary Jefe, I'm moving to Alpha Centauri." -- Alec Baldwin ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From stu at brainfood.com Fri Dec 22 14:08:48 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 01:00:48PM -0800 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> Ariel V. Rosa writes: > IS this better fo you dip-shit? Ok write me a blank check and enclose it in a > wood box coverd in titanium foil with plutonium stuffign inside. Then address > it to me. plutonium stuffing, eh? let's look up the atomic weight of plutonium.. 244 grams per 6.02e23 representative particles. hardly qualifies as stuffing, dumb ass. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 14:22:52 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: Mr.Bad's message of "22 Dec 2000 14:06:40 -0800" References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <20001222140019.X2558@linuxmafia.com> <873dfg9klr.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <87itocjdtv.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> writes: B> "If they elect Rick Moen as Planetary Jefe, I'm moving to Alpha B> Centauri." -- Alec Baldwin Since stars have no solid surface as such, that should be fun to watch, if regrettably brief. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 22 14:23:23 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation In-Reply-To: Rick Moen's message of "Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:55:27 -0800" References: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001222135527.V2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <87elz0jdt0.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes: RM> begin Mr . Bad quotation: >> P.S. Yeah, I realize I'm running a few wack-ass projects behind. >> Bear with me! RM> I believe you misspelled "Beer with me". HTH. HAND. Have another nice doughnut? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Fri Dec 22 14:41:22 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation In-Reply-To: <87elz0jdt0.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:23:23PM +0000 References: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001222135527.V2558@linuxmafia.com> <87elz0jdt0.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001222224122.D443@ummagumma> * Paul J Collins (sneakums@sto-kerrig.org) wrote: > >>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes: > > RM> begin Mr . Bad quotation: > >> P.S. Yeah, I realize I'm running a few wack-ass projects behind. > >> Bear with me! > > RM> I believe you misspelled "Beer with me". HTH. HAND. > > Have another nice doughnut? Have ANother Drink. Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ '-------------------------------------------------------' From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 22 14:54:03 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation In-Reply-To: <87elz0jdt0.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:23:23PM +0000 References: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001222135527.V2558@linuxmafia.com> <87elz0jdt0.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001222145403.Z2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > Have another nice doughnut? http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/ascii/junkyard/techstuff/tables/acronyms.txt From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Dec 22 16:29:31 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <87wvcsi2ya.fsf@monolith.cepstral.com>; from dhd@eradicator.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 04:03:09PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <87wvcsi2ya.fsf@monolith.cepstral.com> Message-ID: <20001222162931.P23787@zork.net> David Huggins-Daines writes: > So, you could simply subtract the number of lines of *actual* text > from the number of lines of *quoted* text, using simple arithmetical > techniques they may have taught you in elementary school. If > necessary, you could use pen and paper, or even a calculator (after > all, you're being tested on your comprehension of the concepts > involved, not on rote number-crunching ability). d(00|h)d, how about an abacus? - No post-consumer waste - No fossil fuels - No batteries to recycle -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 22 16:56:47 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222140019.X2558@linuxmafia.com> References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <20001222140019.X2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <00122219564701.08772@workstation> On Friday 22 December 2000 17:00, Rick Moen wrote: RM> Get off my planet. Thats creative....... -- Missing In Action From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 22 16:54:15 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122219564701.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:56:47PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <20001222140019.X2558@linuxmafia.com> <00122219564701.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222165415.C20291@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Thats creative....... You would know? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 22 17:06:33 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <00122220063302.08772@workstation> On Friday 22 December 2000 17:08, Robert Edmonds wrote: RE> plutonium stuffing, eh? let's look up the atomic weight of plutonium.. 244 RE> grams per 6.02e23 representative particles. hardly qualifies as stuffing, RE> dumb ass. Lets hope you get given a sense of humor it might allow you to do two things your not doing. 1)Luagh at humor 2)maek others luagh pssssttt....yo it is safe to leve the laboratory walls. -- Missing In Action From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 22 17:09:44 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122220063302.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:06:33PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> <00122220063302.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222170944.D20291@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Lets hope you get given a sense of humor it might allow you to do > two things your not doing. > 1)Luagh at humor > 2)maek others luagh This is like watching epileptic children finger-paint. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 22 17:10:05 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net>; from stu@brainfood.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 05:08:48PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <00122213074000.08543@workstation> <20001222110108.Y20291@zork.net> <00122215413600.08772@workstation> <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <20001222171005.E20291@zork.net> begin Robert Edmonds quotation: > plutonium stuffing, eh? let's look up the atomic weight of > plutonium.. 244 grams per 6.02e23 representative particles. hardly > qualifies as stuffing, dumb ass. Hey! Who's not sharing his LFPs? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Fri Dec 22 17:57:49 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122220063302.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:06:33PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> <00122220063302.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001223015749.F443@ummagumma> * Ariel V. Rosa (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2000 17:08, Robert Edmonds wrote: > RE> plutonium stuffing, eh? let's look up the atomic weight of plutonium.. 244 > RE> grams per 6.02e23 representative particles. hardly qualifies as stuffing, > RE> dumb ass. > > Lets hope you get given a sense of humor it might allow you to do two things > your not doing. > 1)Luagh at humor > 2)maek others luagh > > pssssttt....yo it is safe to leve the laboratory walls. Mailing lists really are better suited to people who can type, spell, form sentences and format emails. Perhaps you would be better off on a phone chat-line heavy breathing and exchanging credit card numbers with bald, fat old men and aaronl. Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ '-------------------------------------------------------' From zen at zork.net Fri Dec 22 18:53:08 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] that prick in newark In-Reply-To: <00122220063302.08772@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:06:33PM -0500 References: <20001222101657.T9197@flynn.zork.net> <20001222130048.L23787@zork.net> <20001222170848.A14068@stu.ddts.net> <00122220063302.08772@workstation> Message-ID: <20001222185308.A31999@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Lets hope you get given a sense of humor it might allow you to do two things > your not doing. > 1)Luagh at humor > 2)maek others luagh Why did you even subscribe to this list? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From zen at zork.net Fri Dec 22 18:58:01 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free Color Foundation In-Reply-To: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:34:30AM -0800 References: <87wvcs9rnd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001222185801.B31999@zork.net> begin Mr . Bad quotation: > OK, so here's the plan: I intend to start a Free Software > Foundation-style organization called the Free Color Foundation. Their > goal would be to trademark as many colors as possible and allow them > to be used freely with a GPL-style license. I'm thinking a good place > to start would be the 216 browser-safe colors that everyone uses on > the Web. Sounds like this warrants its own list. Where do I sign up? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bob at ruptured-duck.com Fri Dec 22 20:00:14 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet In-Reply-To: <87ae9omfga.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us><20001220082817.A922@zgp.org><200012210240.eBL2ewh07418@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87ae9omfga.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <200012230400.eBN40Nh13855@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 22 Dec 2000 19:19:33 +0000, Paul J Collins opined: > BB> Freenet == GIFs 4EVA > > If no-one looks them up, they'll fall out of Freenet, won't they? > Isn't that part of the way it works? I was hoping someone who knew something about this and/or cared would answer. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From bob at ruptured-duck.com Fri Dec 22 20:25:32 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Fw: [Galeon-devel] Galeon 0.8.3 Message-ID: <200012230425.eBN4Pdh13873@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Not exactly drop-dead excitement, but... --- Forwarded Message --- From: galeon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: galeon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 22 Dec 2000 18:36:41 CET Subject: [Galeon-devel] Galeon 0.8.3 Galeon is going to be released Sunday. Please do not change any translatable string. Thanks Hi Marco _______________________________________________ Galeon-devel mailing list Galeon-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/galeon-devel -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 23 05:05:24 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "22 Dec 2000 23:00:14 EST" References: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001220082817.A922@zgp.org> <200012210240.eBL2ewh07418@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87ae9omfga.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012230400.eBN40Nh13855@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87k88r1e5n.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: BB> On 22 Dec 2000 19:19:33 +0000, Paul J Collins opined: BB> Freenet == GIFs 4EVA >> If no-one looks them up, they'll fall out of Freenet, won't >> they? Isn't that part of the way it works? BB> I was hoping someone who knew something about this and/or BB> cared would answer. This is CrackMonkey, not the "help Bob avoid doing his own research" list. Grow up. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Dec 23 11:20:07 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Pigdog In Freenet In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "22 Dec 2000 23:00:14 EST" References: <87d7enzhc4.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001220082817.A922@zgp.org> <200012210240.eBL2ewh07418@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <87ae9omfga.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <200012230400.eBN40Nh13855@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <87snnfhrmg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: >> If no-one looks them up, they'll fall out of Freenet, won't >> they? Isn't that part of the way it works? BB> I was hoping someone who knew something about this and/or BB> cared would answer. Yes, that's exactly the way it works. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sat Dec 23 16:06:18 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [ie.general] Re: Five Pakistanis Have Not Used Return Tickets Message-ID: <871yuyznr9.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: "Howard Beale" <howard.beale@REMOVEoceanfree.net> Newsgroups: ie.general,soc.culture.irish,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: Five Pakistanis Have Not Used Return Tickets Shane van Vocht <shane.vanvocht@postbox#SPAMBLOWSGOATS#.ie> wrote in message news:98i029.uh2.ln@postbox.ie... > Well we still have about 100,000 unemployed. I'm guessing not all of > them are physically unable to work. They obviously either don't have > the skills for the jobs on offer or the jobs aren't paying enough. > Hopefully FAS can give them skills and training so that they cash in > on a bit of the celtic tiger. Anything (including spending money on > FAS) is better than letting people fester on the dole for generations > to come. Damn. Another Irish tradition destroyed by the celtic tiger. -- Howard Beale "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" -------------------- End of forwarded message -------------------- -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From schoen at loyalty.org Sat Dec 23 18:36:01 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [schoen@loyalty.org: Re: [linux-elitists] An Open Letter to Don Marti] Message-ID: <20001223183601.A23787@zork.net> I know somebody will smite me for crossposting, but this might belong here more than there. I would also accept patches. (I've changed this a little.) ----- Forwarded message from Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> ----- From: Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> To: Star Track <linux-elitists@zgp.org> Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] An Open Letter to Don Marti Aaron Lehmann writes: > When are you going to start battling the Evil Hard Disk Cabal (As Seen > On Slashdot(TM))? When Don Marti battled the CPRM standard He wrote an open letter to the ATA T13 Committee And made the OEMs keep John Hoy out of my hard drive or again (with slight elaboration, & with feeling): When CP came to Austin-land (Let ATA go!) O working group, this cannot stand. (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go "Thus spoke John G.", bold Marti said: "Let ATA go! If not I'll crash your hard drives' heads. Let ATA go!" Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go No more shall they in bondage toil: (Let ATA go!) Let this come out with CP spoiled. (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go John G. told Marti what to do: (Let ATA go!) To keep stored bits in _cleartext_ -- Gnu. (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go O come on Marti, you'll not get lost (Let ATA go!) You'll get the random access point across. (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go When T13 heard the other side (Let ATA go!) CPRM commands all fell aside (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go When they fled the committee floor (Let ATA go!) We sang a song of triumph o'er (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go John Hoy said he should be the boss (Let ATA go!) Of ATA, but then he lost! (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go O let us all from bondage flee (Let ATA go!) And open hardware keep us free (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go You need not always weep and mourn (Let ATA go!) Nor DRM make ye forlorn (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go LMI can't against you stand (Let ATA go!) And you shall win OEMs' hand! (Let ATA go!) Go Don, Marti Way down in Austin-land Tell old John Hoy To let ATA go -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 _______________________________________________ linux-elitists http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From deirdre at deirdre.net Sat Dec 23 19:29:55 2000 From: deirdre at deirdre.net (Deirdre Saoirse) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/new.html -- _Deirdre * http://www.sfknit.org * http://www.deirdre.net "Our society has not yet gone so far as to place blind faith in machines. In almost all endeavors, humans routinely correct the errors of machines." - Florida Supreme Court From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Dec 23 19:59:28 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org>; from deirdre@deirdre.net on Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 07:29:55PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> Message-ID: <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Dire Red quotation: > http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/new.html So _that's_ where that defective clone got off to. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Dec 23 20:03:15 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: Rick Moen's message of "Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:59:28 -0800" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes: RM> begin Dire Red quotation: >> http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/new.html RM> So _that's_ where that defective clone got off to. Rick: just as a note, they're easier to track if you give them a numerical suffix on the first name, like Rick-4 Moen, Rick-17 Moen, etc. I know you're using the George Foreman model, but look where that got him: barbecuing salmon on late night TV. Rick, avoid this destiny like the plague! SRB, ~Mr.-8 Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 24 11:21:28 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] SCIENTIFIC PROOF of the VIC 20's superiority Message-ID: <20001224112128.G20291@zork.net> "Shatner's Wardrobe by Botany 500" http://www.sbrowning.com/vintage/index.php3?p=35 -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 24 11:26:06 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 08:03:15PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > I know you're using the George Foreman model, but look where that > got him: barbecuing salmon on late night TV. Rick, avoid this > destiny like the plague! http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/rick.jpg No way. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 24 11:27:41 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 07:59:28PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001224112741.I20291@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > begin Dire Red quotation: > > http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/new.html > > So _that's_ where that defective clone got off to. Dude, he's consortin' with SQRATs! http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/gsquirel.jpg This is our pet squirrel who lives around the Center. She has been visiting with us since 1995, and each year brings her new babies to be introduced to us. When she gets hungry she will sit on the hood of Chuck's car and look into the Center until someone comes out to feed her. Although she is quite tame with us, she runs when anyone else comes near. She is still wild which is good. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From rick at linuxmafia.com Sun Dec 24 11:47:16 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:26:06AM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001224114715.G2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Monkey Master quotation: > http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/rick.jpg > > No way. Somebody's going to have to rescue that poor, suffering clone from Minnesota. I mean, he obviously has been driven to self-punishment: Otherwise, how could one account for that moustache? -- Cheers, "Besides, Debian runs Web sites, Red Hat runs Rick Moen Quake, and Windows runs Half-Life." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Bryce Kerley (on Slashdot) From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Dec 24 14:02:23 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! Message-ID: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> ----- Forwarded message from "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> ----- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:25:00 -0500 From: "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [nylug-talk] linux related buttons To: "Stephen Adler" <adler@bnl.gov>, nylug-talk@nylug.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Message-Id: <0012211025000B.01991@workstation> Man just do a search on google for linux http://www.google.com go to as many sites as you please and rip images off good luck, Ariel V. Rosa On Wednesday 20 December 2000 21:17, Stephen Adler wrote: > I'm looking for some button's to adorn the bottom edge of my website. > gnu buttons, tux buttons, linux buttons whatever. (I've go the > powered by redhat one.) Apache button would be good too. can you guys > point me to some web sites which have some Free Software related > buttons? > > Thanks. Steve. -- Missing In Action ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Don Marti dmarti@linuxjournal.com Technical Editor, Linux Journal 650-962-9601 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sun Dec 24 19:59:20 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122422592000.03560@workstation> On Sunday 24 December 2000 14:26, Monkey Master wrote: > begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > http://www.littlefeathercenter.com/rick.jpg > > No way. Looks like a good example of an in breeding. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From stu at brainfood.com Sun Dec 24 21:17:22 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:02:23PM -0800 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001225001722.A8091@stu.ddts.net> > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:25:00 -0500 > From: "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> from the crackmonkey archives: > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:51:05 -0500 > From: Arie V. Rosa bambamm20@mindspring.com ^^^^ anyone else notice that this mouth-breathing KDE-using misanthrope has been misspelling its own name for several weeks? -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Sun Dec 24 22:27:48 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001225001722.A8091@stu.ddts.net> References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <20001225001722.A8091@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <00122501274801.03560@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 00:17, Robert Edmonds wrote: > > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:25:00 -0500 > > From: "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> > > from the crackmonkey archives: > > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:51:05 -0500 > > From: Arie V. Rosa bambamm20@mindspring.com > > ^^^^ > RE> anyone else notice that this mouth-breathing KDE-using misanthrope has > been RE> misspelling its own name for several weeks? Actually you mouth breathing proprietary application user. The idiots who post the comment and reply to it seem to chop the letter "l" of. I wouldn't call that a quote, especially if you change it. So i think some people need to learn how to quote better. Oh and If you had aome common sense and good inference skill you would have looked back at the original message. there you would find the original writing. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Dec 25 00:51:12 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122422592000.03560@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:59:20PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225005112.J2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Looks like a good example of an in breeding. Get out of my galaxy. -- Cheers, "Besides, Debian runs Web sites, Red Hat runs Rick Moen Quake, and Windows runs Half-Life." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Bryce Kerley (on Slashdot) From stu at brainfood.com Mon Dec 25 07:56:15 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <00122501274801.03560@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:27:48AM -0500 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <20001225001722.A8091@stu.ddts.net> <00122501274801.03560@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225105615.A10025@stu.ddts.net> On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:27:48AM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: ^^^^^ http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q4/015501.html ... http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q4/015850.html then we see these two: http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q4/015867.html http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q4/015870.html then we see these: http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q4/015905.html ... http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2000q4/016027.html > Actually you mouth breathing proprietary application user. Actually? Actually what? Nice sentence fragment. $ cat /usr/share/doc/mutt/copyright This package was originally debianized by Stephen Pitts <pitts2@memphisonline.com> on Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:04:20 -0600. The next debian maintainer was J.H.M. Dassen <jdassen@wi.LeidenUniv.nl>. Current debian maintainer is Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> (since sept. 1998). Original source has been downloaded from ftp://ftp.guug.de/pub/mutt/. Copyright: Copyright (C) 1996-8 Michael R. Elkins <me@cs.hmc.edu> Copyright (C) 1997-8 Thomas Roessler <roessler@guug.de> Copyright (C) 1998 Werner Koch <wk@isil.d.shuttle.de> Copyright (C) 1998 Ruslan Ermilov <ru@ucb.crimea.ua> A copy of the GNU General Public License, version 2, can be found in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL . $ > The idiots who > post the comment and reply to it seem to chop the letter "l" of. " From ArieV.Rosabambamm20 at mindspring.com Sun Dec 3 05:51:05 2000 From: ArieV.Rosabambamm20 at mindspring.com (ArieV.Rosabambamm20@mindspring.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Google Message-ID: <mailman.54.1120873728.1299.crackmonkey@frotz.zork.net> " hrmm, yes, i do see how gpm maliciously chops the "l" off your name when pasting headers from only your posts prior to 15 december. " From ArielV.Rosabambamm20 at mindspring.com Fri Dec 15 12:58:59 2000 From: ArielV.Rosabambamm20 at mindspring.com (ArielV.Rosabambamm20@mindspring.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] British sue prodigy over patent infingment....They own the patent to huperlonks.. Message-ID: <mailman.55.1120873728.1299.crackmonkey@frotz.zork.net> " > I wouldn't call that a quote, especially if you change it. hrmm you do know that nowadays MUAs are so advanced that they quote a message being replied to _without you having to manually type their message back in_. > So i think some > people need to learn how to quote better. Oh and If you had aome common sense ^^^^ yes, us proprietary mutt-using bastards need to quote better. maybe if we use the "R" key instead of the "r" key mutt won't maliciously remove letters from your name. $ dict aome dict aome No definitions found for "aome", perhaps you mean: web1913: Come Dome Gome Home Mome Nome Pome -some Tome Acme Alme Ayme wn: come dome home Lome pome Rome some tome acme A-one gazetteer: Home Nome Rome Acme jargon: Acme foldoc: rome/)}. ACME ASME AOCE easton: Rome hitchcock: Rome $ > and good inference skill you would have looked back at the original message. > there you would find the original writing. > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > Come the millennium, month 12, > In the home of greatest power, > The village idiot will come forth > To be acclaimed the leader. we're fucked. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Mon Dec 25 08:00:02 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122422592000.03560@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:59:20PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:59:20PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > -- > Missing In Action.......... > > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > > >> > In the home of greatest power, > > >> > The village idiot will come forth > > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. > -- is there any particular fucking reason for the fucked up formatting of your 'signature'? or do you eagerly await the 2.x rewrite of kmail which will include support for the keys labelled "backspace" and "delete"? -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From schoen at loyalty.org Mon Dec 25 10:05:03 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <00122501274801.03560@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:27:48AM -0500 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <20001225001722.A8091@stu.ddts.net> <00122501274801.03560@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225100503.C19552@zork.net> Ariel V. Rosa writes: > On Monday 25 December 2000 00:17, Robert Edmonds wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:25:00 -0500 > > > From: "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> > > > > from the crackmonkey archives: > > > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 08:51:05 -0500 > > > From: Arie V. Rosa bambamm20@mindspring.com > > > > ^^^^ > > > RE> anyone else notice that this mouth-breathing KDE-using misanthrope has > > been > RE> misspelling its own name for several weeks? > > Actually you mouth breathing proprietary application user. The idiots who > post the comment and reply to it seem to chop the letter "l" of. > I wouldn't call that a quote, especially if you change it. So i think some > people need to learn how to quote better. Oh and If you had aome common sense > and good inference skill you would have looked back at the original message. > there you would find the original writing. In Arthur Koestler's _Darkness at Noon_ there is a fairly moving use of the phrase Arie, ye wretched of the earth! pp. 120, 124, 142, Macmillan ed. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 11:32:14 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225005112.J2558@linuxmafia.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225005112.J2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <00122514321400.00758@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 03:51, Rick Moen wrote: RM> Get out of my galaxy. Why do you jump into an alternate universe whee your my bitch. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 11:35:30 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001225105615.A10025@stu.ddts.net> References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122501274801.03560@workstation> <20001225105615.A10025@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <00122514353001.00758@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 10:56, Robert Edmonds wrote: RE> we're fucked. Speak for your self. So whats nex my dear english teacher. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 11:37:28 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <00122514372802.00758@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 11:00, Robert Edmonds wrote: > is there any particular fucking reason for the fucked up formatting of your > 'signature'? or do you eagerly await the 2.x rewrite of kmail which will > include support for the keys labelled "backspace" and "delete"? Actually this is the first smart thing you ask, and yes there is. ITy is meant to annoy the crap out of you. Seems like your expiriencing what they call "sig-envy" develop your own. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From stu at brainfood.com Mon Dec 25 11:37:48 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <00122514353001.00758@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:35:30PM -0500 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122501274801.03560@workstation> <20001225105615.A10025@stu.ddts.net> <00122514353001.00758@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225143748.A22980@stu.ddts.net> On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:35:30PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > Speak for your self. ^ > So whats nex my dear english teacher. ^ ^ ^ Figure it out yourself, dumbass. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Mon Dec 25 11:40:34 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122514372802.00758@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:37:28PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225144034.A22995@stu.ddts.net> On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:37:28PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > Seems like your expiriencing what they call "sig-envy" > develop your own. envy this. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. -- Robert A. Heinlein (Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love) From nick at zork.net Mon Dec 25 11:55:41 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:48 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Oy... Message-ID: <20001225115541.K20291@zork.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:16:03 -0800 From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com> To: cryptography@c2.net, gnu@toad.com Subject: IBM&Intel push copy protection into ordinary disk drives The Register has broken a story of the latest tragedy of copyright mania in the computer industry. Intel and IBM have invented and are pushing a change to the standard spec for PC hard drives that would make each one enforce "copy protection" on the data stored on the hard drive. You wouldn't be able to copy data from your own hard drive to another drive, or back it up, without permission from some third party. Every drive would have a unique ID and unique keys, and would encrypt the data it stores -- not to protect YOU, the drive's owner, but to protect unnamed third parties AGAINST you. The same guy who leads the DVD Copy Control Association is heading the organization that licenses this new technology -- John Hoy. He's a front-man for the movie and record companies, and a leading figure in the California DVD lawsuit. These people are lunatics, who would destroy the future of free expression and technological development, so they could sit in easy chairs at the top of the smoking ruins and light their cigars off 'em. The folks at Intel and IBM who are letting themselves be led by the nose are even crazier. They've piled fortunes on fortunes by building machines that are better and better at copying and communicating WHATEVER collections of raw bits their customers desire to copy. Now for some completely unfathomable reason, they're actively destroying that working business model. Instead they're building in circuitry that gives third parties enforceable veto power over which bits their customers can send where. (This disk drive stuff is just the tip of the iceberg; they're doing the same thing with LCD monitors, flash memory, digital cable interfaces, BIOSes, and the OS. Next week we'll probably hear of some new industry-wide copy protection spec, perhaps for network interface cards or DRAMs.) I don't know whether the movie moguls are holding compromising photos of Intel and IBM executives over their heads, or whether they have simply lost their minds. The only way they can succeed in imposing this on the buyers in the computer market is if those buyers have no honest vendors to turn to. Or if those buyers honestly don't know what they are being sold. So spread the word. No copy protection should exist ANYWHERE in generic computer hardware! It's up to the BUYER to determine what to use their product for. It's not up to the vendors of generic hardware, and certainly not up to a record company that's shadily influencing those vendors in back-room meetings. Demand a policy declaration from your vendor that they will build only open hardware, not covertly controlled hardware. Use your purchasing dollars to enforce that policy. Our business should go to the honest vendors, who'll sell you a drive and an OS and a motherboard and a CPU and a monitor that YOU, the buyer, can determine what is a valid use of. Don't send your money to Intel or IBM or Sony. Give your money to the vendors who'll sell you a product that YOU control. John ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Dec 25 11:56:51 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122514321400.00758@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:32:14PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225005112.J2558@linuxmafia.com> <00122514321400.00758@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225115651.K2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Why do you jump into an alternate universe whee your my bitch. Get out of my local group. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From zen at zork.net Mon Dec 25 14:43:14 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001224114715.G2558@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:47:16AM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> <20001224114715.G2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001225144314.A10565@zork.net> begin Rick Moen quotation: > Somebody's going to have to rescue that poor, suffering clone from > Minnesota. I mean, he obviously has been driven to self-punishment: > Otherwise, how could one account for that moustache? He's a Hick Rick. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From zen at zork.net Mon Dec 25 14:46:06 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122514372802.00758@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:37:28PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Seems like your expiriencing what they call "sig-envy" > develop your own. Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From schoen at loyalty.org Mon Dec 25 15:35:38 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net>; from zen@zork.net on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 02:46:06PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001225153538.F19552@zork.net> George Moffitt writes: > begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > > Seems like your expiriencing what they call "sig-envy" > > develop your own. > > Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really > paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. > > Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really > paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. Is that where they teach you about this "." command we hear so much about? -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Mon Dec 25 15:45:42 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: George Moffitt's message of "Mon, 25 Dec 2000 14:43:14 -0800" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001223195928.C2558@linuxmafia.com> <87u27u79fg.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20001224112606.H20291@zork.net> <20001224114715.G2558@linuxmafia.com> <20001225144314.A10565@zork.net> Message-ID: <87elywgj4p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "GM" == George Moffitt <zen@zork.net> writes: GM> begin Rick Moen quotation: >> Somebody's going to have to rescue that poor, suffering clone >> from Minnesota. I mean, he obviously has been driven to >> self-punishment: Otherwise, how could one account for that >> moustache? GM> He's a Hick Rick. As opposed to Slick Rick? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From bryanf at samurai.com Mon Dec 25 18:13:38 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Oy... In-Reply-To: <20001225115541.K20291@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:55:41AM -0800 References: <20001225115541.K20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001225211337.P87899@samurai.com> On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:55:41AM -0800, Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:16:03 -0800 > From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com> > To: cryptography@c2.net, gnu@toad.com > Subject: IBM&Intel push copy protection into ordinary disk drives > > The Register has broken a story of the latest tragedy of copyright > mania in the computer industry. [...] > ----- End forwarded message ----- URL? Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From zen at zork.net Mon Dec 25 20:34:24 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225153538.F19552@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 03:35:38PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122422592000.03560@workstation> <20001225110002.A10147@stu.ddts.net> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net> <20001225153538.F19552@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001225203424.A16181@zork.net> begin Seth David Schoen quotation: > > Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really > > paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. (2) > > Is that where they teach you about this "." command we hear so much > about? That's what they didn't teach me about switching out of insert mode and instantly saving. I must've hit 2 before O. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 20:55:38 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225144034.A22995@stu.ddts.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> <20001225144034.A22995@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <00122523553800.01067@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 14:40, Robert Edmonds wrote: RE> envy this. Well, seems like your staring to develop a punch line. Keep on tigger jusat a little more. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 20:57:09 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001225143748.A22980@stu.ddts.net> References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122514353001.00758@workstation> <20001225143748.A22980@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <00122523570901.01067@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 14:37, Robert Edmonds wrote: RE> Figure it out yourself, dumbass. Im starting to like you, dont' make Rick jelious. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 21:01:23 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225115651.K2558@linuxmafia.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122514321400.00758@workstation> <20001225115651.K2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <00122600012302.01067@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 14:56, Rick Moen wrote: RM> Get out of my local group. Scroll back a couple postings earlier. Im that little itch next to your anus, the one your ashamed to scrath. heh NO! -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 21:03:46 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122600034603.01067@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 17:46, George Moffitt wrote: GM> Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really GM> paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. GM> GM> Wow. Those Fox specials on NetSurfSavvy2000 must've really GM> paid off, man. You are sharp. SHARP like a goddamn tack. I see were developing a stuttering problem here, I know some one who can help you with that. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 21:06:00 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <87elywgj4p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001225144314.A10565@zork.net> <87elywgj4p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00122600060004.01067@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 18:45, Paul J Collins wrote: PJC> As opposed to Slick Rick? I dont' see any gold teeth and fat chains. nope nopey nope. I do see a standard mulet haircut though, do all hicks go to the same barber? Even the women too? -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Mon Dec 25 21:10:51 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Oy... In-Reply-To: <20001225211337.P87899@samurai.com> References: <20001225115541.K20291@zork.net> <20001225211337.P87899@samurai.com> Message-ID: <00122600105105.01067@workstation> On Monday 25 December 2000 21:13, Bryan Fullerton wrote: BF> URL? BF> BF> Bryan http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15684.html Theres the link to the story -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Dec 25 21:34:09 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122600012302.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:01:23AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122514321400.00758@workstation> <20001225115651.K2558@linuxmafia.com> <00122600012302.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225213409.N2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Scroll back a couple postings earlier. Im that little itch next to > your anus, the one your ashamed to scrath. heh Get out of my supercluster. -- Cheers, "Reality is not optional." Rick Moen -- Thomas Sowell rick@linuxmafia.com From zen at zork.net Mon Dec 25 22:03:40 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122600034603.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:03:46AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122514372802.00758@workstation> <20001225144606.B10565@zork.net> <00122600034603.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225220340.A17921@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > I see were developing a stuttering problem here, I know some one who can help > you with that. Really? That's fan-FUCKING-tastic! Hook me up, as the kids say! I'm a regular PORKY FUCKING PIG! That's FUNNY! Really? That's fan-FUCKING-tastic! Hook me up, as the kids say! I'm a regular PORKY FUCKING PIG! That's FUNNY! -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From zen at zork.net Mon Dec 25 22:06:16 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122600060004.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:06:00AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001225144314.A10565@zork.net> <87elywgj4p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122600060004.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001225220616.B17921@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > I dont' see any gold teeth and fat chains. nope nopey nope. > I do see a standard mulet haircut though, do all hicks go to the same barber? > Even the women too? I don't get it. One minute you're spouting ish about how we all scratch our butts and are too dumb to notice that your name suddenly and mysteriously gained an L a week or two ago, and now you're trying (or so it seems) to FIT IN, in your own sick way. Which is it, Chauncey? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 04:55:52 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225213409.N2558@linuxmafia.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600012302.01067@workstation> <20001225213409.N2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <00122607555206.01067@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 00:34, Rick Moen wrote: RM> Get out of my supercluster. Some one is in denial...... LEAVE THAT MACHINTOSH ALONE!! -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 04:57:52 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225220340.A17921@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600034603.01067@workstation> <20001225220340.A17921@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122607575207.01067@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 01:03, George Moffitt wrote: GM> Really? That's fan-FUCKING-tastic! Hook me up, as the kids GM> say! I'm a regular PORKY FUCKING PIG! That's FUNNY! GM> Gm> Really? That's fan-FUCKING-tastic! Hook me up, as the kids GM> say! I'm a regular PORKY FUCKING PIG! That's FUNNY! Yep Yep, My diagnosis was correct. This is goingt to be your new "thing" Not that corny little sig. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 05:03:06 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001225220616.B17921@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600060004.01067@workstation> <20001225220616.B17921@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122608030608.01067@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 01:06, George Moffitt wrote: GM> I don't get it. One minute you're spouting ish about how we GM> all scratch our butts and are too dumb to notice that your name GM> suddenly and mysteriously gained an L a week or two ago, and now GM> you're trying (or so it seems) to FIT IN, in your own sick way. GM> Which is it, Chauncey? Here we go... http://www.sonicnet.com/artistinfo/16378.html That is slick RTick the "artist", mind you I put artist in quotes. Im not trying to fit is. just lettin my natural self come to light. Yes im an ashole by trade. Some people do like being that way. heh. Im a nice guy in real life though, I think you have ran into before I just keep a low profile. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 06:53:55 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: "Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 00:06:00 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <20001225144314.A10565@zork.net> <87elywgj4p.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122600060004.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <87n1djp724.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> I do see a standard mulet haircut though [...] http://www.wesleywillis.com/files/Wesley%20Willis%20-%20cut%20the%20mullet.mp3 -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Dec 26 07:47:39 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122607555206.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 07:55:52AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600012302.01067@workstation> <20001225213409.N2558@linuxmafia.com> <00122607555206.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226074739.O2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Some one is in denial...... > LEAVE THAT MACHINTOSH ALONE!! Get out of my universe. Right, then. Into ~/.procmail/rc.twit you go. -- Cheers, "Besides, Debian runs Web sites, Red Hat runs Rick Moen Quake, and Windows runs Half-Life." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Bryce Kerley (on Slashdot) From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 08:01:09 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226074739.O2558@linuxmafia.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122607555206.01067@workstation> <20001226074739.O2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <00122611010900.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 10:47, Rick Moen wrote: RM> Get out of my universe. RM> RM> Right, then. Into ~/.procmail/rc.twit you go. That line "get out of my XXXXX" is tired develop somethign new. I take back that thing about the machintosh, he doesn't own a computer. He owns a shell account on a linux machine which he gets access to by telnetign to it from a windows 2000 machine. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 08:02:40 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: "Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:01:09 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122607555206.01067@workstation> <20001226074739.O2558@linuxmafia.com> <00122611010900.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <87ae9jp3vj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> I take back that thing about the machintosh, he doesn't own a AVR> computer. He owns a shell account on a linux machine which he AVR> gets access to by telnetign to it from a windows 2000 AVR> machine. So, does he own this putative Win2K box or not? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 08:21:45 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <87ae9jp3vj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611010900.01366@workstation> <87ae9jp3vj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00122611214502.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:02, Paul J Collins wrote: PJC> So, does he own this putative Win2K box or not? No he uses it when he visits his prind down at the local patent office. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 08:24:23 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen..correction In-Reply-To: <00122611214502.01366@workstation> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <87ae9jp3vj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <00122611242303.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:21, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:02, Paul J Collins wrote: > PJC> So, does he own this putative Win2K box or not? > > No he uses it when he visits his friends down at the local patent office. ^^^^^^ -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 08:32:16 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: "Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:21:45 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611010900.01366@workstation> <87ae9jp3vj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <871yuvp2i7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:02, Paul J Collins wrote: PJC> So, does he own this putative Win2K box or not? AVR> No he uses it when he visits his prind down at the local AVR> patent office. Get the fuck out of my inbox, asshole. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 08:44:51 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <871yuvp2i7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> <871yuvp2i7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00122611445104.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:32, Paul J Collins wrote: > Get the fuck out of my inbox, asshole. errrmmmm........ corny I have a solution, learn How to write some nice scripts to bounce messages from me out of your in-box. Other than that, you will be reading my text on your screen once more. bite me (and no..thats not original an excerpt from the simpsons) -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Dec 26 08:45:55 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122611445104.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:44:51AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> <871yuvp2i7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122611445104.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226114555.Q87899@samurai.com> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:44:51AM -0500, "Ariel V. Rosa" <bambamm20@mindspring.com> wrote: > I have a solution, learn How to write some nice scripts to bounce messages > from me out of your in-box. Other than that, you will be reading my text on > your screen once more. <plonk> Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From jmorris at intercode.com.au Tue Dec 26 08:55:00 2000 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:49 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122611445104.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > bite me (and no..thats not original an excerpt from the simpsons) If I bite all of your fingers off, will you stop posting? - James -- James Morris <jmorris@intercode.com.au> From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 09:02:41 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> Message-ID: <00122612024105.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:55, James Morris wrote: JM> If I bite all of your fingers off, will you stop posting?> <jmoron@intercode.com.au> No i will resort to pushing the keys on my keyboard with a pencil in my mouth. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 09:00:36 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: "Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:44:51 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> <871yuvp2i7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122611445104.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <87wvcnnmmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> I have a solution, learn How to write some nice scripts to AVR> bounce messages from me out of your in-box. Other than that, AVR> you will be reading my text on your screen once more. They're already being bounced into "losers.spool". You're in good company. AVR> bite me (and no..thats not original an excerpt from the AVR> simpsons) It was established long ago that originality was not your forte. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 09:01:08 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: James Morris's message of "Wed, 27 Dec 2000 03:55:00 +1100 (EST)" References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> Message-ID: <87snnbnmln.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "JM" == James Morris <jmorris@intercode.com.au> writes: JM> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: >> bite me (and no..thats not original an excerpt from the simpsons) JM> If I bite all of your fingers off, will you stop posting? Fucker'll just use his feet. This calls for decapitiation. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 09:13:47 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <87wvcnnmmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611445104.01366@workstation> <87wvcnnmmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00122612134708.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 12:00, Paul J Collins wrote: PJC> They're already being bounced into "losers.spool". You're in good PJC> company. thank you, im honored to take up realestate on yoru hard drive PJC> It was established long ago that originality was not your forte. never claimed it was. but unlike you im not copy cat ----a quote from PJC's concience------ "derrrrr doy doy deerrrr??????" -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 09:14:08 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: "Ariel V. Rosa"'s message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:13:47 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611445104.01366@workstation> <87wvcnnmmj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122612134708.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <87ofxznlzz.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "AVR" == Ariel V Rosa <bambamm20@mindspring.com> writes: AVR> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 12:00, Paul J Collins wrote: PJC> They're already being bounced into "losers.spool". You're in PJC> good company. AVR> thank you, im honored to take up realestate on yoru hard drive Not really. That's just my lack of trust in procmail and my ability to script it correctly. Your ultimate fate is to be marked with `#' and deleted with `B DEL'. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 09:22:37 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <87ofxznlzz.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122612134708.01366@workstation> <87ofxznlzz.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <00122612223709.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 12:14, Paul J Collins wrote: PJC> Not really. That's just my lack of trust in procmail and my ability PJC> to script it correctly. Your ultimate fate is to be marked with `#' PJC> and deleted with `B DEL'. Ah even better, good to know you needed a couple calories out of your day to pay attention to little old (young) me. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From kdoherty at cosanostra.net Tue Dec 26 10:15:36 2000 From: kdoherty at cosanostra.net (Kevin Doherty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <87snnbnmln.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 05:01:08PM +0000 References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <87snnbnmln.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001226131535.A15343@cosanostra.net> And thus spake Paul J Collins, on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 05:01:08PM +0000: > >>>>> "JM" == James Morris <jmorris@intercode.com.au> writes: > > JM> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > >> bite me (and no..thats not original an excerpt from the simpsons) > JM> If I bite all of your fingers off, will you stop posting? > > Fucker'll just use his feet. This calls for decapitiation. What makes you think his head is at all involved in the process of posting? -- Kevin Doherty, kdoherty@cosanostra.net "There's much to be said for laboring in obscurity" -- "Tilt-A-Whirl", Galactic Cowboys From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Tue Dec 26 11:41:03 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: Kevin Doherty's message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:15:36 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <87snnbnmln.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001226131535.A15343@cosanostra.net> Message-ID: <87vgs76kds.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "KD" == Kevin Doherty <kdoherty@cosanostra.net> writes: KD> And thus spake Paul J Collins, on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 05:01:08PM +0000: >> Fucker'll just use his feet. This calls for decapitiation. KD> What makes you think his head is at all involved in the KD> process of posting? From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 11:59:54 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen..correction In-Reply-To: <00122611242303.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:24:23AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <87ae9jp3vj.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> <00122611242303.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226145954.A22477@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:24:23AM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:21, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 11:02, Paul J Collins wrote: > > PJC> So, does he own this putative Win2K box or not? > > > > No he uses it when he visits his friends down at the local patent office. > ^^^^^^ who's changing quotes now, eh? "the lo"? oh, waiting for fixed-width font support in the 2.x rewrite of kmail? -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From geoperry at iww.org Tue Dec 26 12:01:13 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Banner <http://www.legalcannabis.com/images/banner.jpg> In-Reply-To: <002b01c06f41$783d1400$5c730a3f@user> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012261147470.28990-100000@iww.org> Banner-quality imagery at <http://www.legalcannabis.com/images/banner.jpg>. Thanks to who'll direct traffic to <http://www.legalcannabis.com/index.html>. -g... compost-attendant in a cyber-garden p.s... image-footprint shoe-sizer sez 176v100h From geoperry at iww.org Tue Dec 26 12:06:30 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] !Dude (Was: [Pigdog] surprise.) In-Reply-To: <20001226102917.B24894@dolphy.geekhive.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012261204110.28990-100000@iww.org> You spell conservative as vicious. -g. p.s... we could trick computers into doing this, ?yes On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ocho Ha wrote: [...] > There is no liberal bias in the media except maybe in the minds > of concervatives... From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Tue Dec 26 12:07:24 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122612223709.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:22:37PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122612134708.01366@workstation> <87ofxznlzz.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122612223709.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226200724.A23531@ummagumma> * Ariel V. Rosa (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 12:14, Paul J Collins wrote: > > PJC> Not really. That's just my lack of trust in procmail and my ability > PJC> to script it correctly. Your ultimate fate is to be marked with `#' > PJC> and deleted with `B DEL'. > > Ah even better, good to know you needed a couple calories out of your day to > pay attention to little old (young) me. You take PRIDE in being such a sad specimen that you fuck people off on a mailing list specifically FOR fucking people off, not by being smart or deft or even interestingly obscene, but by being fuckwittingly stupid and inane while not even taking time to SPELL your repulsive outbursts to a 3rd grade level? The only thing that makes the phrase "presence of mind" attributable to you is your damn email address. It's people like you that make me very, very happy to think that some day, we all have to die, usually painfully and alone, and more often than not by drowning in our own vomit. Happy yuletide greetings, fuckface. Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ `-------------------------------------------------------' From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Tue Dec 26 12:14:59 2000 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <00122523570901.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:57:09PM -0500 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122514353001.00758@workstation> <20001225143748.A22980@stu.ddts.net> <00122523570901.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma> * Ariel V. Rosa (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: > On Monday 25 December 2000 14:37, Robert Edmonds wrote: > > RE> Figure it out yourself, dumbass. > > Im starting to like you, dont' make Rick jelious. ^ ^ ^ That HAS to be deliberate, right? Right? Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source hacker, advocate | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ `-------------------------------------------------------' From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 12:24:04 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226200724.A23531@ummagumma>; from gilbertt@linuxbrit.co.uk on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 08:07:24PM +0000 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122612134708.01366@workstation> <87ofxznlzz.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122612223709.01366@workstation> <20001226200724.A23531@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20001226152404.A22697@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 08:07:24PM +0000, Tom Gilbert wrote: > * Ariel V. Rosa (bambamm20@mindspring.com) wrote: [some stupid shit] > It's people like you that make me very, very happy to think that some > day, we all have to die, usually painfully and alone, and more often > than not by drowning in our own vomit. also he uses KDE, forever to be shunned by true windows and true linux users alike. harlan ellison made this quote JUST FOR PEOPLE LIKE "arie v. rosa" who cannot spell his own name: "Why do people keep insisting that I join the 21st Century? I *LIVE* in the 21st Century! I just don't want to be bothered by the shitheads on the internet!" -- Harlan Ellison -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From mej at valinux.com Tue Dec 26 12:24:47 2000 From: mej at valinux.com (Michael Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma>; from gilbertt@linuxbrit.co.uk on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 08:14:59PM +0000 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122514353001.00758@workstation> <20001225143748.A22980@stu.ddts.net> <00122523570901.01067@workstation> <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20001226122447.C17374@valinux.com> On Tuesday, 26 December 2000, at 20:14:59 (+0000), Tom Gilbert wrote: > > Im starting to like you, dont' make Rick jelious. > ^ ^ ^ > > That HAS to be deliberate, right? > > Right? No amount of optimism will endow intelligence on one with the collective brain power of a toilet brush and used leg wax. Besides, everyone knows this is just aaronl finding new and even more pathetic ways of trolling. Now where did I put that can of Lysol.... Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <mej@eterm.org> Software Engineer, VA Linux Systems Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'll be leaving soon; it's hard to say when I'll return, and I don't want to lead you on. So if you feel the need, close your eyes and share this dream. It will be Eternity." -- Blessid Union of Souls, "Forever for Tonight" From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 13:09:19 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122612024105.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:02:41PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <00122612024105.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226160919.A23362@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:02:41PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > No i will resort to pushing the keys on my keyboard with a pencil in my > mouth. i hope you choke! and, holy crap, you managed to spell all the words in this post correctly! even your name! -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 26 14:26:41 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [inetgw1@microsoft.com: Mail could not be delivered] Message-ID: <20001226142641.C5138@zork.net> HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ----- Forwarded message from "Automated Virus Gateway (do not reply)" <inetgw1@microsoft.com> ----- From: "Automated Virus Gateway (do not reply)" <inetgw1@microsoft.com> To: crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org Subject: Mail could not be delivered Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 00:51:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) ****** Message from InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT ****** The following mail could not be delivered. Reason: Exceeded Maximum Delivery Attempts. Verify that the recipient address is correct. ***************** End of message *************** ----- Message-ID: <20001225005112.J2558@linuxmafia.com> From: Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> Sender: crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org To: crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org Subject: Re: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 00:51:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) x-webtv-stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black errors-to: crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org in-reply-to: <00122422592000.03560@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:59:20PM -0500 x-mailman-version: 1.1 x-beenthere: crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org user-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i list-id: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks. <crackmonkey.crackmonkey.org> x-fnord: +++ath x-cabal: There is no CABAL. x-cabal-url: There is no http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/ x-eric-conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. x-eric-regex-matching: There are no stealth members of the conspiracy. begin 600 Ariel V. Rosa quotation_ ` end ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 26 14:28:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122608030608.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 08:03:06AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600060004.01067@workstation> <20001225220616.B17921@zork.net> <00122608030608.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226142818.D5138@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Yes im an ashole by trade. ...and a moron by birthright! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 26 14:30:09 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122611445104.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:44:51AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122611214502.01366@workstation> <871yuvp2i7.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <00122611445104.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226143009.E5138@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > I have a solution, learn How to write some nice scripts to bounce > messages from me out of your in-box. Other than that, you will be > reading my text on your screen once more. Capital idea, old chum! Ariel, meet garvilk. Garvilk, meet ariel! -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 26 14:41:47 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey Subscribe Notification] Message-ID: <20001226144147.F5138@zork.net> Ah, bliss. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- garvilk@zork.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From zen at zork.net Tue Dec 26 15:06:17 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122607575207.01067@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 07:57:52AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600034603.01067@workstation> <20001225220340.A17921@zork.net> <00122607575207.01067@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Yep Yep, My diagnosis was correct. This is goingt to be your new "thing" Not > that corny little sig. May I ask why that was CC'd to Robert Edmonds? -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 15:12:21 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net>; from zen@zork.net on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:06:17PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122600034603.01067@workstation> <20001225220340.A17921@zork.net> <00122607575207.01067@workstation> <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001226181221.A26374@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:06:17PM -0800, George Moffitt wrote: > begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > > Yep Yep, My diagnosis was correct. This is goingt to be your new "thing" Not > > that corny little sig. > > May I ask why that was CC'd to Robert Edmonds? modifying fields won't be supported in kmail until the 2.x rewrite. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 26 15:21:04 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Officer, San Francisco Lodge #120 F&AM Message-ID: <20001226152104.G5138@zork.net> http://www.advogato.org/person/arthurtyde/ -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From aaronl at vitelus.com Tue Dec 26 15:51:13 2000 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001226122447.C17374@valinux.com>; from mej@valinux.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:47PM -0800 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122514353001.00758@workstation> <20001225143748.A22980@stu.ddts.net> <00122523570901.01067@workstation> <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma> <20001226122447.C17374@valinux.com> Message-ID: <20001226155113.A9824@vitelus.com> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:47PM -0800, Michael Jennings wrote: > Besides, everyone knows this is just aaronl finding new and even more > pathetic ways of trolling. I wish. I'm on vacation so I missed these posts but I'm reading them now and annoying the hell out of my relatives with uncontrollable laughter. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 18:45:32 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226200724.A23531@ummagumma> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122612223709.01366@workstation> <20001226200724.A23531@ummagumma> Message-ID: <0012262145320D.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 15:07, Tom Gilbert wrote: > It's people like you that make me very, very happy to think that some > day, we all have to die, usually painfully and alone, and more often > than not by drowning in our own vomit. > > Happy yuletide greetings, fuckface. > > Tom. So you are a masaquist. heh. Oh listen up if you can dirt bag(means read carefully): There is no pride in putting an idiot liek you down and reminding you of those high school memories when you used to get shoved in lockers and your head flushed in the tiolet, only pure joy. Dumb fuck. Leave lin4win alone. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 18:46:35 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma> References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122523570901.01067@workstation> <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma> Message-ID: <0012262146350E.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 15:14, Tom Gilbert wrote: > That HAS to be deliberate, right? > > Right? > > Tom. You on to something, you aren't as dumb and narrow minded as I though. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 18:50:27 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226160919.A23362@stu.ddts.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <00122612024105.01366@workstation> <20001226160919.A23362@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <0012262150270F.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 16:09, Robert Edmonds wrote: > i hope you choke! and, holy crap, you managed to spell all the words in > this post correctly! even your name! I willhave my girlfriend standing by waiting to save me. Hey some times people do things which other people have a petpive about on purpose, just to get a reaction from them. heh grow up, hold on you are grown...no..no... Get smarter. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 18:56:04 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122607575207.01067@workstation> <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net> Message-ID: <0012262156040G.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 18:06, George Moffitt wrote: > May I ask why that was CC'd to Robert Edmonds? Hmm pure chance, some how the moon and the starts affected the way the electron in my computer move about. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 18:54:28 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <0012262150270F.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:50:27PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <00122612024105.01366@workstation> <20001226160919.A23362@stu.ddts.net> <0012262150270F.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226215428.A30009@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:50:27PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > I willhave my girlfriend standing by waiting to save me. eh, so you're a lesbian? -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 18:56:30 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <0012262156040G.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:56:04PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122607575207.01067@workstation> <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net> <0012262156040G.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226215630.A30030@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:56:04PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 18:06, George Moffitt wrote: > > May I ask why that was CC'd to Robert Edmonds? > > Hmm pure chance, some how the moon and the starts affected the way the > electron in my computer move about. eh, more likely because you're being pimped by trolltech by using KDE software. only mouth-breathing windows-users trying to be 'l33t' use KDE. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From stu at brainfood.com Tue Dec 26 18:58:56 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Graphics are theft! Stick it to the Man! In-Reply-To: <0012262146350E.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:46:35PM -0500 References: <20001224140223.B4160@zgp.org> <00122523570901.01067@workstation> <20001226201459.B23531@ummagumma> <0012262146350E.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226215856.B30030@stu.ddts.net> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:46:35PM -0500, Ariel V. Rosa wrote: > On Tuesday 26 December 2000 15:14, Tom Gilbert wrote: > > That HAS to be deliberate, right? > You on to something, you aren't as dumb and narrow minded as I though. ^1 ^2 ^3 1) this sentence no verb 2) comma splice 3) neglected comma has to be deliberate... or as "arie with an l" would put it.. "diljberit". -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From nutella at zork.net Tue Dec 26 19:01:10 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Officer, San Francisco Lodge #120 F&AM In-Reply-To: <20001226152104.G5138@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:21:04PM -0800 References: <20001226152104.G5138@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001226190110.A11610@zork.net> 26Dec2000 03:21PM (-0800) From [nick@zork.net] nick [Nick Moffitt] > http://www.advogato.org/person/arthurtyde/ So, are you gonna certify him as Apprentice? (or are there sooper seekrit masonic advogato levels?) Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 19:07:05 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226215428.A30009@stu.ddts.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <0012262150270F.01366@workstation> <20001226215428.A30009@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <0012262207050I.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 21:54, Robert Edmonds wrote: > eh, so you're a lesbian? Well at least i dont' have to resort to havong a porn riddled computer in a porn infested cubicle with napkins at the ready in the drawer. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From jdub at aphid.net Tue Dec 26 19:15:32 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <0012262145320D.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:45:32PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122612223709.01366@workstation> <20001226200724.A23531@ummagumma> <0012262145320D.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001227141532.H426@aphid.net> <quote who="Ariel V. Rosa"> > So you are a masaquist. heh. ____ _ _ _ _____ _ _ ____ _ __ __ __ / ___| ___| |_ | |_| |__ ___ | ___| | | |/ ___| |/ / ___ / _|/ _| | | _ / _ \ __| | __| '_ \ / _ \ | |_ | | | | | | ' / / _ \| |_| |_ | |_| | __/ |_ | |_| | | | __/ | _| | |_| | |___| . \ | (_) | _| _| \____|\___|\__| \__|_| |_|\___| |_| \___/ \____|_|\_\ \___/|_| |_| _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ __ | \ | (_) ___| | _( )___ | (_)___| |_ / \ _ __(_) ___ / / | | \ \ | \| | |/ __| |/ /// __| | | / __| __| / _ \ | '__| |/ _ \ | | | | | | | |\ | | (__| < \__ \ | | \__ \ |_ _ / ___ \| | | | __/ | | | | | | |_| \_|_|\___|_|\_\ |___/ |_|_|___/\__( ) /_/ \_\_| |_|\___| | | |_| | | |/ \_\ /_/ __ __ ____ _ _ _ \ \ / / / ___|___ ___| | _____ _ __ ___ | |_| | \ \ / / | | / _ \ / __| |/ / __| '_ \ / _ \| __| | \ V /_ | |__| (_) | (__| <\__ \ | | | (_) | |_|_| \_/(_) \____\___/ \___|_|\_\___/_| |_|\___/ \__(_) - Jeff (when all else fails, figlet) -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- We're kind of like Canada, only we hate ourselves more, and it's wetter around the edges. From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 19:26:57 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001227141532.H426@aphid.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <0012262145320D.01366@workstation> <20001227141532.H426@aphid.net> Message-ID: <0012262226570J.01366@workstation> On Tuesday 26 December 2000 22:15, Jeff Waugh wrote: > ____ _ _ _ _____ _ _ ____ _ __ __ __ > / ___| ___| |_ | |_| |__ ___ | ___| | | |/ ___| |/ / ___ / _|/ _| > > | | _ / _ \ __| | __| '_ \ / _ \ | |_ | | | | | | ' / / _ \| |_| |_ > | |_| | __/ |_ | |_| | | | __/ | _| | |_| | |___| . \ | (_) | _| _| > > \____|\___|\__| \__|_| |_|\___| |_| \___/ \____|_|\_\ \___/|_| |_| > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ __ > > | \ | (_) ___| | _( )___ | (_)___| |_ / \ _ __(_) ___ / / | | \ > | \ \| | |/ __| |/ /// __| | | / __| __| / _ \ | '__| |/ _ \ | | | | > | | | > | > | |\ | | (__| < \__ \ | | \__ \ |_ _ / ___ \| | | | __/ | | | | | > | | | > | > |_| \_|_|\___|_|\_\ |___/ |_|_|___/\__( ) /_/ \_\_| |_|\___| | | |_| | > | | > | > |/ \_\ > | /_/ > > __ __ ____ _ _ _ > \ \ / / / ___|___ ___| | _____ _ __ ___ | |_| | > \ \ / / | | / _ \ / __| |/ / __| '_ \ / _ \| __| | > \ V /_ | |__| (_) | (__| <\__ \ | | | (_) | |_|_| > \_/(_) \____\___/ \___|_|\_\___/_| |_|\___/ \__(_) > Quiclky soem one get the archeologist, we need to decipher this message. We think it is modern hiorgliphics.(now thats one word i spelled wrong, heh) Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From nutella at zork.net Tue Dec 26 19:25:49 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] SCIENTIFIC PROOF of the VIC 20's superiority In-Reply-To: <20001224112128.G20291@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:21:28AM -0800 References: <20001224112128.G20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001226192549.C11610@zork.net> 24Dec2000 11:21AM (-0800) From [nick@zork.net] nick [Nick Moffitt] > "Shatner's Wardrobe by Botany 500" > > http://www.sbrowning.com/vintage/index.php3?p=35 I notice that the ZX81 ad (http://www.sbrowning.com/vintage/index.php3?p=25) claims that Sinclair Research was "the world's largest manufacturer of personal computers." I am surprised. Was that really the case? I am assuming by "largest" they are refering to the number of boxes shipped so the ZX80 put them in front. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 26 22:37:49 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <0012262207050I.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:07:05PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <0012262150270F.01366@workstation> <20001226215428.A30009@stu.ddts.net> <0012262207050I.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226223749.H5138@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Well at least i dont' have to resort to havong a porn riddled > computer in a porn infested cubicle with napkins at the ready in the > drawer. You wear napkins? -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Dec 26 22:40:39 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] SCIENTIFIC PROOF of the VIC 20's superiority In-Reply-To: <20001226192549.C11610@zork.net>; from nutella@zork.net on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 07:25:49PM -0800 References: <20001224112128.G20291@zork.net> <20001226192549.C11610@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001226224039.I5138@zork.net> begin Bernard quotation: > I notice that the ZX81 ad > (http://www.sbrowning.com/vintage/index.php3?p=25) claims that > Sinclair Research was "the world's largest manufacturer of personal > computers." I am surprised. Was that really the case? I am > assuming by "largest" they are refering to the number of boxes > shipped so the ZX80 put them in front. Most likely. The ZX8 series were incredibly straightforward. The power supply was separate, so you could send the same box all over the world and still only charge 50 pounds sterling. It was a miracle of belt-tightening surpassed only by the Apple II disk drive controller (which went from 35 chips down to six or something like that). -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From nick at zork.net Tue Dec 26 22:43:09 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] "I can't be the first person to have noticed this, but..." Message-ID: <20001226224309.J5138@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- Forwarded-by: John Schultz <jschultz@coin.org> From: Matt Blaze <mab@research.att.com> To: cryptography@c2.net The (now expired) RSA patent number, 4,405,829, is prime. -matt [-- http://patents.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+PATBIB-ALL+0+992884+0+1+177277+OF+1+1+1+PN%2f4%2c405%2c829 United States Patent 4,405,829 Rivest, et. al. Sept. 20, 1983 Cryptographic communications system and method Abstract A cryptographic communications system and method. The system includes a communications channel coupled to at least one terminal having an encoding device and to at least one terminal having a decoding device. A message-to-be-transferred is enciphered to ciphertext at the encoding terminal by first encoding the message as a number M in a predetermined set, and then raising that number to a first predetermined power (associated with the intended receiver) and finally computing the remainder, or residue, C, when the exponentiated number is divided by the product of two predetermined prime numbers (associated with the intended receiver). The residue C is the ciphertext. The ciphertext is deciphered to the original message at the decoding terminal in a similar manner by raising the ciphertext to a second predetermined power (associated with the intended receiver), and then computing the residue, M', when the exponentiated ciphertext is divided by the product of the two predetermined prime numbers associated with the intended receiver. The residue M' corresponds to the original encoded message M. Inventors: Rivest; Ronald L. (Belmont, MA); Shamir; Adi (Cambridge, MA); Adleman; Leonard M. (Arlington, MA). Assignee: Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA). Appl. No.: 860,586 Filed: Dec. 14, 1977 ] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From deirdre at deirdre.net Tue Dec 26 22:50:22 2000 From: deirdre at deirdre.net (Deirdre Saoirse) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Officer, San Francisco Lodge #120 F&AM In-Reply-To: <20001226190110.A11610@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012262247320.16189-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Bernard wrote: > 26Dec2000 03:21PM (-0800) From [nick@zork.net] nick [Nick Moffitt] > > http://www.advogato.org/person/arthurtyde/ > > So, are you gonna certify him as Apprentice? > (or are there sooper seekrit masonic advogato levels?) Actually, the funniest thing is on his home page. The first item is "Download my resume." Who the FUCK has PDF resumes anyway? Geez! -- _Deirdre * http://www.sfknit.org * http://www.deirdre.net "Our society has not yet gone so far as to place blind faith in machines. In almost all endeavors, humans routinely correct the errors of machines." - Florida Supreme Court From schoen at loyalty.org Tue Dec 26 23:03:50 2000 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] "I can't be the first person to have noticed this, but..." In-Reply-To: <20001226224309.J5138@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:43:09PM -0800 References: <20001226224309.J5138@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001226230350.T19552@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- > Forwarded-by: John Schultz <jschultz@coin.org> > > From: Matt Blaze <mab@research.att.com> > To: cryptography@c2.net > > The (now expired) RSA patent number, 4,405,829, is prime. Someone could make a movie about a mathematician who discovers this, and its implications for geopolitics. -- Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will down: http://www.loyalty.org/ (CAF) | not have leisure. -- Pirke Avot 2:5 From zen at zork.net Tue Dec 26 23:07:25 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <0012262226570J.01366@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:26:57PM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <0012262145320D.01366@workstation> <20001227141532.H426@aphid.net> <0012262226570J.01366@workstation> Message-ID: <20001226230725.A17849@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Quiclky soem one get the archeologist, we need to decipher this message. We > think it is modern hiorgliphics.(now thats one word i spelled wrong, heh) What have we told you about fixed-width fonts, man? Get the fuck off this list. What have we told you about fixed-width fonts, man? Get the fuck off this list. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From joakim at helixcode.com Wed Dec 27 00:13:17 2000 From: joakim at helixcode.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] "I can't be the first person to have noticed this, but..." In-Reply-To: <20001226230350.T19552@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:03:50PM -0800 References: <20001226224309.J5138@zork.net> <20001226230350.T19552@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001227021317.A6933@helixcode.com> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:03:50PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > Nick Moffitt writes: >> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> ----- >> Forwarded-by: John Schultz <jschultz@coin.org> >> From: Matt Blaze <mab@research.att.com> >> To: cryptography@c2.net >> The (now expired) RSA patent number, 4,405,829, is prime. > Someone could make a movie about a mathematician who discovers this, > and its implications for geopolitics. Does it end with him taking an electric drill to his own head? -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From jdub at aphid.net Tue Dec 26 23:26:06 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] "I can't be the first person to have noticed this, but..." In-Reply-To: <20001227021317.A6933@helixcode.com>; from joakim@helixcode.com on Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 02:13:17AM -0600 References: <20001226224309.J5138@zork.net> <20001226230350.T19552@zork.net> <20001227021317.A6933@helixcode.com> Message-ID: <20001227182606.J426@aphid.net> <quote who="Joakim Ziegler"> > Does it end with him taking an electric drill to his own head? And therefore slide perfectly into the role of a Ghostbusters prequel? - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "A rest with a fermata is the moral opposite of the fast food restaurant with express lane." - James Gleick, Faster From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 23:48:20 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226223749.H5138@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0012270349040.21259-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <0012262207050I.01366@workstation> <20001226223749.H5138@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122702482000.02428@workstation> On Wednesday 27 December 2000 01:37, Monkey Master wrote: MM> You wear napkins? Oh the lost, just let this one pass you by. To complex for the paint fume damaged brain of yours. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From bambamm20 at mindspring.com Tue Dec 26 23:51:27 2000 From: bambamm20 at mindspring.com (Ariel V. Rosa) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:51 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226230725.A17849@zork.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <0012262226570J.01366@workstation> <20001226230725.A17849@zork.net> Message-ID: <00122702512701.02428@workstation> On Wednesday 27 December 2000 02:07, George Moffitt wrote: GM> What have we told you about fixed-width fonts, man? Get the GM> fuck off this list. GM> GM> What have we told you about fixed-width fonts, man? Get the GM> fuck off this list. Your stuttering problem seesm to be getting worst. im getting wooried for you. -- Missing In Action.......... > >> > In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: > >> > Come the millennium, month 12, > >> > In the home of greatest power, > >> > The village idiot will come forth > >> > To be acclaimed the leader. -- From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 28 12:02:16 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Zork's cut off Message-ID: <20001228120215.L5138@zork.net> So Zork isn't broken, but the slomkowski DSL has been disconnected by either gross negligence or vast conspiracy. Zork should be moved over to a new location shortly. Stay tuned... -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Dec 28 12:11:19 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20001226230725.A17849@zork.net>; from zen@zork.net on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:07:25PM -0800 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <0012262145320D.01366@workstation> <20001227141532.H426@aphid.net> <0012262226570J.01366@workstation> <20001226230725.A17849@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001228121119.M5138@zork.net> begin Zen-O-Phobia quotation: > What have we told you about fixed-width fonts, man? Get the > fuck off this list. > > What have we told you about fixed-width fonts, man? Get the > fuck off this list. Your font is: Proportional Monospaced ^ -- Crack 01234567 <-- The amazing Indent-o-Meter Monkey ^ Indentation will soon be too cheap to meter! From nick at zork.net Thu Dec 28 12:30:52 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Twinkle twinkle little troll. Message-ID: <20001228123052.N5138@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from <Mailer-Daemon@zork.net> ----- This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: bambamm20@mindspring.com: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<bambamm20@mindspring.com>: host mx04.mindspring.com [207.69.200.198]: 550 User unknown ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ [not on MY watch, it isn't!] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bob at ruptured-duck.com Thu Dec 28 13:14:39 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Twinkle twinkle little troll. In-Reply-To: <20001228123052.N5138@zork.net> References: <20001228123052.N5138@zork.net> Message-ID: <200012282114.eBSLEth08326@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:30:52 -0800, Nick Moffitt opined: > bambamm20@mindspring.com: I thought bambamm was run out of town on a rail. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From bob at ruptured-duck.com Wed Dec 27 19:20:58 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but Message-ID: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Is it me or does sourceforge.net just suck all the time for downloads? What's the problem over there? What's the skinny? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From zen at zork.net Thu Dec 28 23:33:05 2000 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <00122702512701.02428@workstation>; from bambamm20@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 02:51:27AM -0500 References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <0012262226570J.01366@workstation> <20001226230725.A17849@zork.net> <00122702512701.02428@workstation> Message-ID: <20001228233305.A427@zork.net> begin Ariel V. Rosa quotation: > Your stuttering problem seesm to be getting worst. im getting wooried for you. Why? Is it dangerous? Damn it, now I'm concerned. Why? Is it dangerous? Damn it, now I'm concerned. Why? Is it dangerous? Damn it, now I'm concerned. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From dmarti at electriclichen.com Thu Dec 28 17:06:02 2000 From: dmarti at electriclichen.com (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] which is it? Message-ID: <20001228170602.B21347@zgp.org> World's dumbest spammer, or world's sleaziest colo salesperson? Received: from mail-man.activematrix.net ([206.165.212.121]) by barley.electriclichen.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA06209 for <dmarti@electriclichen.com>; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:48:32 -0500 (Windows box, btw) -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From geoperry at iww.org Wed Dec 27 16:59:00 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: Word Warp (Was: [CrackMonkey] !Dude (Was: [Pigdog] surprise.) In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012261204110.28990-100000@iww.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012271658080.23253-100000@laser.catch22.com> Coercitives. -g On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, George J.P. Perry wrote: > You spell conservative as vicious. -g. p.s... we could trick computers > into doing this, ?yes > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ocho Ha wrote: > [...] > > There is no liberal bias in the media except maybe in the minds > > of concervatives... From geoperry at iww.org Wed Dec 27 16:45:14 2000 From: geoperry at iww.org (George J.P. Perry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [geoperry@iww.org: [Pigdog] <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing12/18/gates.movie.idg/index.html>] In-Reply-To: <20001220132957.D20291@zork.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012271643290.23253-100000@laser.catch22.com> And now I've learned yet another trick. -g On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Hahaha. CNN Hax0r3d. > > A note to the k2dd13: > > Gates is no longer CEO. That's Ballmer now. > > Thank you. > > ----- Forwarded message from "George J.P. Perry" <geoperry@iww.org> ----- > > I dunno' it *looks* like cnn. -g > > <http://www.cnn.com@1061324811/cnn/?News/TopStories/12-16-00/2000/TECH/computing> [...] From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Dec 27 17:22:24 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] SCIENTIFIC PROOF of the VIC 20's superiority In-Reply-To: <20001226224039.I5138@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:40:39PM -0800 References: <20001224112128.G20291@zork.net> <20001226192549.C11610@zork.net> <20001226224039.I5138@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001227172224.F7493@zgp.org> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:40:39PM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Most likely. The ZX8 series were incredibly straightforward. > The power supply was separate, so you could send the same box all over > the world and still only charge 50 pounds sterling. All real computers have the power supply as a separate unit. I'm going to build my next box in 2 cases: "loud stuff" and "quiet stuff" and run long-ass SCSI and power cables from room to room. (Of course that would mean I need to move to some place where the walls aren't acoustically transparent...I hear everything from my neighbors, but no audio pr0n surprisingly enough.) -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 29 09:41:00 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 10:20:58PM -0500 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 10:20:58PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Is it me or does sourceforge.net just suck all the time for downloads? > > What's the problem over there? > > What's the skinny? Unfortunately, one of the two main download servers (an experimental fibre channel one) bit the dust a couple of weeks ago. SourceForge downloads now come only from ftp2.sourceforge.net. ftp1 and ftp3 are coming online in the next couple of weeks. ftp1 is the replacement for the blown up server, and ftp3 is entirely new. Hopefully there will be an ftp4 and ftp5 soon. With ftp3, SourceForge will push more bandwidth than cdrom.com or freesoftware.com. It is already the largest free software archive in the world by a pretty wide margin with 800GB of data and over 3 million files. I know it is crippled for a little while, and for that I apologize. Should be fixed soon. -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 29 09:43:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +0000 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> begin M. Drew Streib quotation: > I know it is crippled for a little while, and for that I apologize. He apologizes for the inconvenience! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 09:52:22 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:43:18AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:43:18AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > He apologizes for the inconvenience! Big Servers are so twentieth-century. Why not just put your warez on Freenet? -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 29 09:54:47 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:52:22AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:52:22AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 09:43:18AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > > > He apologizes for the inconvenience! > > Big Servers are so twentieth-century. Why not just put your warez on > Freenet? As soon as the default cache size in freenet is even 1/10 the 800GB of data I need to mirror, I'll consider it. heh. Thought of putting it on Akamai, too. Just too much damn data... -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 10:09:52 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 05:54:47PM +0000 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 05:54:47PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > As soon as the default cache size in freenet is even 1/10 the 800GB > of data I need to mirror, I'll consider it. heh. But the neato thing about Freenet is that documents are distributed automagically among nodes. As a matter of fact, inserting all of SourceForge into Freenet might help Freenet's self-organization process, and make it _faster_. You wouldn't need to do much fancy indexing at all -- just put Freenet links on the download pages. "No match for" of the day: No match for "HIJAKAMAI.ORG". -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 29 10:22:09 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:09:52AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:09:52AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > But the neato thing about Freenet is that documents are distributed > automagically among nodes. As a matter of fact, inserting > all of SourceForge into Freenet might help Freenet's self-organization > process, and make it _faster_. We discussed this briefly on the freenet-dev list as well. Another problem that arises is one of inserting the actual files. The insertion process itself would be very difficult with such a large file set. (This discussion was actually of putting debian mirrors on freenet.) I'm not against it, and will gladly make the insertion. I just want to make sure it would actually work, at least a little... Other immediate problem becomes one of malicious programs. Would have to put md5sums somewhere for verification, likely. (I know it is OSS and all, but when is the last time you went through all of the code of a tarball before typing './configure; make; make install'?) -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 29 10:24:29 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Zork's cut off In-Reply-To: <20001228120215.L5138@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 12:02:16PM -0800 References: <20001228120215.L5138@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001229102429.H14879@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > So Zork isn't broken, but the slomkowski DSL has been disconnected by > either gross negligence or vast conspiracy. Zork should be moved over > to a new location shortly. Stay tuned... As you may have noticed, it has returned! Beaujolais! -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 10:36:18 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 06:22:09PM +0000 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 06:22:09PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > We discussed this briefly on the freenet-dev list as well. Another > problem that arises is one of inserting the actual files. The insertion > process itself would be very difficult with such a large file set. Hmmm, maybe Mr. Bad would come down from his secret mountain lab and help you out... > Other immediate problem becomes one of malicious programs. Would have > to put md5sums somewhere for verification, likely. (I know it is OSS > and all, but when is the last time you went through all of the code > of a tarball before typing './configure; make; make install'?) You could just link to the CHK from the download page. "The CHK is unique by nature and provides tamperproof content." http://freenet.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=keys FTP servers are not only a seventeeth-century archaic technological embarassment, but also a _cost center_! Think outside the box! Get a Corporate Quality Award! Larry Ellison saved a billion dollars with Oracle -- you can save a trillion dollars with Freenet! -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 29 10:42:42 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:36:18AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:36:18AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > FTP servers are not only a seventeeth-century archaic technological > embarassment, but also a _cost center_! Think outside the box! Get > a Corporate Quality Award! Larry Ellison saved a billion dollars with > Oracle -- you can save a trillion dollars with Freenet! You are correct, sir! Just have to make sure to balance the experimental with the known and tested. I tried to get rid of ftp altogether in favor of http a year ago (is really no advantage to ftp, and has more security implications, is slower, etc...) but the community wasn't happy with that, so ftp came back. Note that of >100 CPAN mirrors, we're the only one that is exclusively listed as http (relic of my attempt a year ago). I'll make strives for the better things, but have to listen to community as well. (Damn that community thing...) heh. -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 29 10:41:59 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: "M. Drew Streib"'s message of "Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:41:00 +0000" References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> Message-ID: <87zohfysqw.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MDS" == M Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org> writes: MDS> Unfortunately, one of the two main download servers (an MDS> experimental fibre channel one) bit the dust a couple of MDS> weeks ago. Not to be a snot, but don't the people in the next room MAKE giganto-hugic hosts for a living? Or am I thinking that you have different sponsors than the ones you actually have? I mean, you should be able to get a new server in like 32 seconds. MDS> I know it is crippled for a little while, and for that I MDS> apologize. Should be fixed soon. OK. Hey, I'm going to take La Diablo Blanka (my fabulous Citroen wagon) down to Fremont tomorrow night for your party. It seats me + 6, so anyone in the City who wants a ride should talk to me. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 29 10:45:16 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <87zohfysqw.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:41:59AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <87zohfysqw.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001229184516.F7086@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:41:59AM -0800, Mr . Bad wrote: > Hey, I'm going to take La Diablo Blanka (my fabulous Citroen wagon) > down to Fremont tomorrow night for your party. It seats me + 6, so > anyone in the City who wants a ride should talk to me. And in true geek style, the party has a URL now. http://dtype.org/2001/ We're expecting between 50-100 now. -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From laz at clustermonkey.org Fri Dec 29 10:46:24 2000 From: laz at clustermonkey.org (Adam Lazur) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] stoopid gpl violation Message-ID: <20001229134624.A30776@lazur.org> http://www.flygroup.org/eb/gpl-violation.html Note to self: when stealing GPL'd code be sure to pass through sed at least once... .adam -- Adam Lazur, Cluster Monkey 5FE0 559F 37E9 B8BB 8354 B5BF B70C 7A33 F7E9 0FF1 From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 29 10:54:55 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 06:42:42PM +0000 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001229105455.A2558@linuxmafia.com> begin M. Drew Streib quotation: > I tried to get rid of ftp altogether in favor of http a year ago (is > really no advantage to ftp, and has more security implications, is slower, > etc...) but the community wasn't happy with that, so ftp came back. If you could ever manage to phase out non-anonymous ftp access, then I can happily recommend oftpd, http://www.time-travellers.org/oftpd/ for its security and performance characteristics. I played with pftpd (still just a bit too buggy), Troll-ftpd (doesn't yet support ASCII transfers), and Ranum's aftpd (too BSD-bound and difficult to port to Linux). oftpd is a winner. Scp is now available so universally that there's really no excuse for non-anonymous ftp: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ssh-clients You might also have use for my ftpd survey, http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ftp-daemons , newly annotated for the particular benefit of Daniel J. Bernstein fans. -- Cheers, "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a Rick Moen little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider rick@linuxmafia.com price only are this man's lawful prey." - J. Ruskin (attr.) From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 10:56:49 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 06:42:42PM +0000 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001229105649.A31576@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 06:42:42PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > Just have to make sure to balance the experimental with the known > and tested. Brawk! Brawk-buk-buk-buk! Brawk! -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 29 10:59:22 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229105455.A2558@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:54:55AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> <20001229105455.A2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001229105922.I14879@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > You might also have use for my ftpd survey, > http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ftp-daemons , newly annotated > for the particular benefit of Daniel J. Bernstein fans. From the survey: > Note: Dan Kegel is doing a "performance back-off" of ftp daemons > for Linux: http://www.kegel.com/dkftpbench/bakeoff.html Yeah, I know how that feels. Let's back off on performance for a bit and work for a while on instability instead. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 29 11:04:44 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] Portals] Message-ID: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net> HAW HAW HAW! ----- Forwarded message from Egad <egad@dasbistro.com> ----- Wow... going through a filing cabinet here I found a crapload of emails (printed) and notes about some project of years ago (4 to be exact.) The goal was to write a s00p3r neato keen OS that washed the dishes and changed the baby. The main parts I remember now were that the windows were all curvy (none of that square crap), they were called portals (not windows, and instead of "icons" we had "godheads". Also there's something here about a Filesystem that Ken Manz came up with for the whole thing call gznfs (which stood for g-something z-something nifty filesystem.) Damn was I idealistic. And all I needed was a Geocities account... http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7044/ -- |(o)(0) E http://www.dasbistro.com/egad HB | > G egad@dasbistro.com SRB | (~) A Reno, Nevada DD +-------D------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ dasbanter mailing list dasbanter@dasbistro.com http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 29 11:11:51 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ESCAPE Message-ID: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from "Mr.Bad" <mr.bad@pigdog.org> ----- >>>>> "SSHM" == Snatcherus Spockitus Hillbillicus Maximus <snatcher@pigdog.org> writes: SSHM> Agh. I'm alone here in Iowa, trapped down in the cellar. Holy crap! Are they having tornadoes and crap, per Bernard Vonnegut? Or is there some kind of pogrom occuring in the streets of Ioway City!? You gotta get outta there, man! Get out while the getting's good. Whatever you do, don't head for the Quad Cities. They're a pack of murderous thieves there who would strip a blond California boy like you and make you their secret sweet honey bitch. They'd probably keep you naked on a chain in the backyard like an animal, only letting you out of the icy cold for buggery and occasional shearings. SSHM> for the people in Indiana, it's earlier, I think. But I SSHM> don't know. Indiana does not partake in American time due to their slavish devotion to International Communism. SSHM> Tonight we had some new arivals from Indiana, and they are SSHM> pretending to be fast asleep. They are probably having a Communist cell meeting by telepathy. As you know, the Soviet Union perfected telepathic communication in the 1950s and worldwide Communists use the technique to distribute spy information while appearing to talk about basketball. I recommend that you cloud your brainwaves with strong whiskey to prevent intrusion. Using GPG for all intrabrain communication is also recommended. Need I remind you that Bob Crane's killer was never brought to justice? SSHM> i've been hiding all day, trying not to get involved in all SSHM> the grand super shit, and end up the focus of someone's SSHM> family politics. They are just waiting for that. "You, sir, are stupendously fat. I would conjecture that, with your immense glutenous torso and tiny waving vestigial arm limbs, you're unable to wipe your own ass. Am I correct?" SSHM> Yet there is no escape. I've set myself up for this. I SSHM> can't complain! No, that is the one thing you CAN do. I suggest that you revel in it. SSHM> Ugh. I can't even smoke anymore. I've convinced myself SSHM> that all the things that ground me and give any sort of SSHM> confort are deadly evilness killers -- which just goes to SSHM> show... You're farther gone than I had feared. SSHM> Fuck! I just realized, you people all hate me. Yes, but we OWE you. That makes us the most dangerous factor in your life at the moment, but RIGHT NOW WE'RE THE ONLY HOPE YOU HAVE. You must follow these directions TO THE LETTER or all is lost. 1.) CLEANSE YOUR BOWELS. Impacted bowels are an impediment to the crystal clear thinking and lightning reflexes which you will need over the next 8 hours if you are to survive. I cannot emphasize this strongly enough. 2.) DISGUISE. You must disguise your pasty features, because they stand out like a beacon. Take a black magic marker and blacken your face and hands COMPLETELY. Leave no unmarked areas, however small. If any other flesh around your waist or ankles is exposed, it must be disguised, also. NOTE*NOTE*NOTE: DO NOT I repeat DO NOT use one of those magic markers that smells like licorice. This will attract the dogs and disclose your whereabouts. 3.) PREEMPTIVE STRIKE. In order to stay one step ahead of the enemy you *must* take the initiative. Climb up the drainpipe on the outside of the building (do not take the stairs! That's what they EXPECT you to do) and into the bedroom of the Indiana Communists. Plunge a mechanical pencil with a swift, wrist-twisting motion into the right ear of each Communist in turn, starting with the largest and working your way down to the smallest. ONE STROKE is all you get. You must disable their telepathy centers before they can awaken and warn their colleagues or notify their taskmasters in Moscow. Do NOT use a Bic ballpoint pen, as they lack structural integrity and will shatter on impact. I recommend if at all possible you practice on the leftover turkey in the kitchen refridgerator before executing this maneuver. Plunge... and TWIST! Plunge... and TWIST! It should become as second nature to you. It may help to do some capoeira exercises to calm your mind and strengthen your resolve. 3.) ESCAPE. Run with all your might to the West, where you have allies. Keep to the fields and avoid human habitation such as farmhouses and townlets -- remember, William Pickard was turned in by a bucktoothed farmer. Country people hate our kind. Live off the land. Think like a wild beast. Clothe yourself in furs and corn husks. The day is your enemy and the night is your friend. Keep moving at all times. SSHM> So fuck an a. There will be time for that later. Now, you must act! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 11:43:44 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ESCAPE In-Reply-To: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:11:51AM -0800 References: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001229114344.A32169@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:11:51AM -0800, Nickels Moffitt, King of the Low Rollers wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from "Mr.Bad" <mr.bad@pigdog.org> ----- ...snip... > Indiana does not partake in American time due to their slavish > devotion to International Communism. Bullshit. It's much more complicated than that. $ locate zoneinfo | grep Indiana | wc -l 24 http://www.mccsc.edu/time.html -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 29 11:48:04 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ESCAPE In-Reply-To: <20001229114344.A32169@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:43:44AM -0800 References: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net> <20001229114344.A32169@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001229114804.P14879@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > > ----- Forwarded message from "Mr.Bad" <mr.bad@pigdog.org> ----- > > Indiana does not partake in American time due to their slavish > > devotion to International Communism. > > Bullshit. It's much more complicated than that. > > http://www.mccsc.edu/time.html Look, we've all been to the Merkin Center for Crushing Socialist Communism before. We've all received the indoctrinations, and we all know how Indiana is subject to the domino effect. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 29 11:47:33 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ESCAPE In-Reply-To: Don Marti's message of "Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:43:44 -0800" References: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net> <20001229114344.A32169@zgp.org> Message-ID: <87ito3yppm.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "DM" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes: >> Indiana does not partake in American time due to their slavish >> devotion to International Communism. DM> Bullshit. It's much more complicated than that. DM> $ locate zoneinfo | grep Indiana | wc -l 24 DM> http://www.mccsc.edu/time.html OK, OK! You found me out! Not everybody in Indiana is a telepathic World Communist! There may even be some other factual errors in that message. I refuse to stand by my statements at any time! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 29 11:51:22 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Secret Life of Rick Moen In-Reply-To: Robert Edmonds's message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:56:30 -0500" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012231929250.6573-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> <00122607575207.01067@workstation> <20001226150617.A6949@zork.net> <0012262156040G.01366@workstation> <20001226215630.A30030@stu.ddts.net> Message-ID: <87puibj9ad.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds <stu@brainfood.com> writes: RE> only mouth-breathing windows-users trying to be 'l33t' use RE> KDE. Actually, they use LiteStep. For a short time only; the usual consequence of discovery of LiteStep's text config files is a brain haemhorrage and death, resulting in a small rise the average quality of computer users. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 12:05:24 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:52 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ESCAPE In-Reply-To: <20001229114804.P14879@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:48:04AM -0800 References: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net> <20001229114344.A32169@zgp.org> <20001229114804.P14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001229120524.A32559@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:48:04AM -0800, Monkey Master wrote: > Look, we've all been to the Merkin Center for Crushing > Socialist Communism before. We've all received the indoctrinations, > and we all know how Indiana is subject to the domino effect. Indiana is a hotbed of LISP, dammit. Just ask AltaVista: +indiana +lisp 3,745 +california +lisp 3,552 +massachusetts +lisp 2,133 Put that in your pipe and smoke it. -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Dec 29 12:06:37 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Year In Review Message-ID: <87ae9fyotu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> OK, my favorite review so far, from Need To Know: ---8<--- _ _ _____ _ __ <*the* weekly high-tech sarcastic update for the uk> | \ | |_ _| |/ / _ __ __2000-12-29_ o join! mail an empty message to | \| | | | | ' / | '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / / o ntknow-subscribe@lists.ntk.net | |\ | | | | . \ | | | | (_) \ v v / o website (+ archive) lives at: |_| \_| |_| |_|\_\|_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/ o http://www.ntk.net/ >> REVIEW OF THE YEAR, 2000 << It was shit. Give us another one. ---8<--- This is so blazingly accurate that it makes my eyes water. I HATED the year 2000. Beaujolais for NTK! ~Mr. Bad P.S. How come NTK gets away with punting like this? Hunh? How come? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bob at ruptured-duck.com Fri Dec 29 12:06:12 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229105649.A31576@zgp.org> References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> <20001229105649.A31576@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200012292006.eBTK6Th26582@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:56:49 -0800, Don Marti opined: > Brawk! Brawk-buk-buk-buk! Brawk! Kudos! Auteur! Auteur! -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Dec 29 12:10:02 2000 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Year In Review In-Reply-To: <87ae9fyotu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:06:37PM -0800 References: <87ae9fyotu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001229151002.K87899@samurai.com> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:06:37PM -0800, "Mr . Bad" <mr.bad@pigdog.org> wrote: > Beaujolais for NTK! I concur. > P.S. How come NTK gets away with punting like this? Hunh? How come? Because They Can. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 29 12:41:07 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ESCAPE In-Reply-To: Don Marti's message of "Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:05:24 -0800" References: <20001229111151.L14879@zork.net> <20001229114344.A32169@zgp.org> <20001229114804.P14879@zork.net> <20001229120524.A32559@zgp.org> Message-ID: <878zozj6zg.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "DM" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes: DM> Indiana is a hotbed of LISP, dammit. Just ask AltaVista: DM> +indiana +lisp 3,745 DM> +california +lisp 3,552 DM> +massachusetts +lisp 2,133 +ireland +lisp 2,139 We beat Massachusetts. Not bad considering that we have a population of only three and a half million and a permanent hangover. DM> Put that in your pipe and smoke it. <?xml version="1.0" charset="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE puff PUBLIC "-//Paul Collins//DTD Smoke that Pipe//EN" "pjdc/pipe.dtd"> <puff repeat="3" /> -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 29 12:45:24 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Year In Review In-Reply-To: Mr.Bad's message of "29 Dec 2000 12:06:37 -0800" References: <87ae9fyotu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <874rznj6sb.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> writes: B> P.S. How come NTK gets away with punting like this? Hunh? How B> come? Mr. O'Brien has clearly been taking lessons from Crackmonkey. Why do you think he joined? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From nick at zork.net Fri Dec 29 13:28:59 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] TMBG IN SF] Message-ID: <20001229132859.Q14879@zork.net> I suppose the tickets are already gone, no? ----- Forwarded message from Egad <egad@dasbistro.com> ----- They Might Be Giants will be performing at the Fillmore January 31st. Hoorah! -- |(o)(0) E http://www.dasbistro.com/egad HB | > G egad@dasbistro.com SRB | (~) A Reno, Nevada DD +-------D------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ dasbanter mailing list dasbanter@dasbistro.com http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From danny at spesh.com Fri Dec 29 13:36:34 2000 From: danny at spesh.com (Danny O'Brien) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Year In Review In-Reply-To: <874rznj6sb.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:45:24PM +0000 References: <87ae9fyotu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <874rznj6sb.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001229213634.B4814@spesh.com> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:45:24PM +0000, Paul J Collins wrote: > >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> writes: > > B> P.S. How come NTK gets away with punting like this? Hunh? How > B> come? > > Mr. O'Brien has clearly been taking lessons from Crackmonkey. Why do > you think he joined? GRARRGH! FSTHING SHARAARGH THAR LOT OF YOU! BOSHA DEBIAN CRASHOTICKERS! [Falls over in street] BOW-JAH-LAY, MUSHHERFCKERS! From dhd at eradicator.org Fri Dec 29 13:39:22 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] The Year In Review In-Reply-To: Danny O'Brien's message of "Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:36:34 +0000" References: <87ae9fyotu.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <874rznj6sb.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001229213634.B4814@spesh.com> Message-ID: <87elyqhppx.fsf@monolith.cepstral.com> Danny O'Brien <danny@spesh.com> writes: > GRARRGH! FSTHING SHARAARGH THAR LOT OF YOU! BOSHA DEBIAN CRASHOTICKERS! Speak up, Cthulhu can't hear you! -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@eradicator.org From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Dec 29 14:28:07 2000 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] Portals] In-Reply-To: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:04:44AM -0800 References: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001229142807.G2558@linuxmafia.com> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > Damn was I idealistic. And all I needed was a Geocities account... > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7044/ Love that FAQ page. -- Cheers, "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a Rick Moen little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider rick@linuxmafia.com price only are this man's lawful prey." - J. Ruskin (attr.) From jdub at aphid.net Fri Dec 29 14:42:48 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] Portals] In-Reply-To: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:04:44AM -0800 References: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001230094248.C29468@giardia.yourweb.com.au> "The major contendahs, Windows 95, Windows NT, and to a limited extent, OS/2 all ship on CD-ROMs and gobble up around 50 to 100 megs of disk space." Who's the black perky penguin that's the IPO machine to all the geeks? ===> TUX! "Enter two boys from Reno with a common vision: A multitasking, protected memory OS that you can boot to a command line from a floppy disk." Who'da thunk it? Two boys from RENO! "We say we wanna revolution, well ya know, we all wanna change the world. And with Portals, it will be.... alright." Make up your mind: Kernel or Beatle? - Jeff <quote who="Nick Moffitt"> > HAW HAW HAW! > > ----- Forwarded message from Egad <egad@dasbistro.com> ----- > > The goal was to write a s00p3r neato keen OS that washed the dishes and > changed the baby. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI. From dtype at dtype.org Fri Dec 29 15:22:09 2000 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229105649.A31576@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:56:49AM -0800 References: <200012280321.eBS3LLh05496@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> <20001229105649.A31576@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20001229232209.A9496@dtype.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:56:49AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > > Just have to make sure to balance the experimental with the known > > and tested. > > Brawk! Brawk-buk-buk-buk! Brawk! Heh... Keep that in mind when I declare my intent to store all of the project CVS trees on this "new and cool" drewfs filesystem. ;) -drew -- M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>, http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Dec 29 15:28:23 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] I don't want to get off on a rant but In-Reply-To: <20001229232209.A9496@dtype.org>; from dtype@dtype.org on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:22:09PM +0000 References: <20001229174100.A7086@dtype.org> <20001229094318.F14879@zork.net> <20001229095222.D29776@zgp.org> <20001229175447.B7086@dtype.org> <20001229100952.F29776@zgp.org> <20001229182209.C7086@dtype.org> <20001229103618.A31293@zgp.org> <20001229184242.E7086@dtype.org> <20001229105649.A31576@zgp.org> <20001229232209.A9496@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20001229152823.A2541@zgp.org> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:22:09PM +0000, M. Drew Streib wrote: > Keep that in mind when I declare my intent to store all of the project > CVS trees on this "new and cool" drewfs filesystem. ;) Now you're getting it! -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From samp at aztech-cs.com Fri Dec 29 14:46:51 2000 From: samp at aztech-cs.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] Portals] In-Reply-To: <20001230094248.C29468@giardia.yourweb.com.au>; from jdub@aphid.net on Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 09:42:48AM +1100 References: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net> <20001230094248.C29468@giardia.yourweb.com.au> Message-ID: <20001229144651.C27148@aztech-cs.com> On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 09:42:48AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > "We say we wanna revolution, well ya know, we all wanna change the world. > And with Portals, it will be.... alright." > > > Make up your mind: Kernel or Beatle? I once again repent for being a ignorant youth ... actually no I don't. -- Sam Phillips <samp@aztech-cs.com> http://www.dasbistro.com/sdp Aztech Cyberspace Reno, Nevada From samp at aztech-cs.com Fri Dec 29 16:34:37 2000 From: samp at aztech-cs.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] Portals] In-Reply-To: <20001229142807.G2558@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:28:07PM -0800 References: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net> <20001229142807.G2558@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20001229163437.E27148@aztech-cs.com> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:28:07PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > > > Damn was I idealistic. And all I needed was a Geocities account... > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7044/ > > Love that FAQ page. A project so great no one had ANY questions. -- Sam Phillips <samp@aztech-cs.com> http://www.dasbistro.com/sdp Aztech Cyberspace Reno, Nevada From samp at aztech-cs.com Fri Dec 29 16:35:48 2000 From: samp at aztech-cs.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] TMBG IN SF] In-Reply-To: <20001229132859.Q14879@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:28:59PM -0800 References: <20001229132859.Q14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001229163548.F27148@aztech-cs.com> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:28:59PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > I suppose the tickets are already gone, no? > Tickets go on sale this weekend. The 31st IIRC. > ----- Forwarded message from Egad <egad@dasbistro.com> ----- > > They Might Be Giants will be performing at the Fillmore January 31st. > > Hoorah! > > -- > |(o)(0) E http://www.dasbistro.com/egad HB > | > G egad@dasbistro.com SRB > | (~) A Reno, Nevada DD > +-------D------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > dasbanter mailing list > dasbanter@dasbistro.com > http://www.dasbistro.com/mailman/listinfo/dasbanter > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > -- Sam Phillips <samp@aztech-cs.com> http://www.dasbistro.com/sdp Aztech Cyberspace Reno, Nevada From nutella at zork.net Fri Dec 29 17:40:32 2000 From: nutella at zork.net (Bernard) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Officer, San Francisco Lodge #120 F&AM In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012262247320.16189-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org>; from deirdre@deirdre.net on Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:50:22PM -0800 References: <20001226190110.A11610@zork.net> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012262247320.16189-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> Message-ID: <20001229174032.A31430@zork.net> 26Dec2000 10:50PM (-0800) From [deirdre@deirdre.net] deirdre [Deirdre] > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Bernard wrote: > > > 26Dec2000 03:21PM (-0800) From [nick@zork.net] nick [Nick Moffitt] > > > http://www.advogato.org/person/arthurtyde/ > > > > So, are you gonna certify him as Apprentice? > > (or are there sooper seekrit masonic advogato levels?) > > Actually, the funniest thing is on his home page. The first item is > "Download my resume." Who the FUCK has PDF resumes anyway? Geez! [raises hand] 'Twas required for one application. OTOH although it is publicly accessible I don't have a link for it anywhere. Guess I'm still contaminated. Bernard -- Bernard P. Murray, Ph.D. nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Fri Dec 29 17:56:21 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Officer, San Francisco Lodge #120 F&AM In-Reply-To: Deirdre Saoirse's message of "Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:50:22 -0800 (PST)" References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012262247320.16189-100000@rockhopper.deirdre.org> Message-ID: <87elyqfz96.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "DS" == Deirdre Saoirse <deirdre@deirdre.net> writes: DS> Actually, the funniest thing is on his home page. The first DS> item is "Download my resume." Who the FUCK has PDF resumes DS> anyway? Geez! The last job I applied for, I sent my CV as HTML and plain text (courtesy of lynx). Everything was peachy. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Dec 29 21:21:23 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [egad@dasbistro.com: [Dasbanter] Portals] In-Reply-To: <20001229144651.C27148@aztech-cs.com>; from samp@aztech-cs.com on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 02:46:51PM -0800 References: <20001229110444.K14879@zork.net> <20001230094248.C29468@giardia.yourweb.com.au> <20001229144651.C27148@aztech-cs.com> Message-ID: <20001229212123.S14879@zork.net> begin Sam Phillips quotation: > I once again repent for being a ignorant youth ... actually no I > don't. Yeah, but can *your* new OS free Tibet? http://pliant.cx -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Sat Dec 30 13:06:09 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] nwall Message-ID: <20001230130609.W14879@zork.net> Weu. Nwall version 1.10 is done. It's got autoconf. Can anyone tell me what the deal is with localstatedir? I want this to install in /usr/local/var if prefix is /usr/local, /var if it's /usr, and so forth. Do people just have to specify --localstatedir= if they don't want it to be ${prefix}/var/ ? -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Sat Dec 30 14:25:07 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] nwall In-Reply-To: <20001230130609.W14879@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 01:06:09PM -0800 References: <20001230130609.W14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20001230142507.X14879@zork.net> http://zork.net/nwall/ for those of you who missed it. weu. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From nick at zork.net Sat Dec 30 14:57:28 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] History of microprocessor architecture. Message-ID: <20001230145728.Y14879@zork.net> This is a pretty nice run-down of the history of PC microprocessors. Makes a better case for why superscalar architecture beat out RISC than that old ars technica article did, though that's not its purpose. http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Dec 30 20:13:35 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] We Put the FREE in FREMONT Message-ID: <87g0j5ut1s.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Hey, I'm heading out to M. Drew Streib's party RIGHT NOW! OK, well, after a tactical stop at Taqueria Cancun. Hopefully I'll see at least one person I know there. If not, I'm gonna do NAKED LIMBO on the PATIO AREA. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dmarti at zgp.org Sat Dec 30 21:13:34 2000 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] evil "Snowhite" joke spam Message-ID: <20001230211334.D13608@zgp.org> So what's the punch line to the "Snowhite" spam joke? There's got to be _somebody_ who's opened this stupid-ass thing on a (co-worker's) proprietary OS machine? Free the punch line! And there's the joke that ends "If this is going to be that kind of party, I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." (The Beastie Boys sampled someone telling it.) What's the beginning? Speaking of parties, I'm sick and I can't make it to Drew's. Dammit. Enjoy the potatoes anyway. ----- Forwarded message from Hahaha <hahaha@sexyfun.net> ----- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:40:56 -0800 (PST) From: Hahaha <hahaha@sexyfun.net> Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story! To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-Id: <20001230134056.539043FC21@capsicum.zgp.org> Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a *huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the Seven Dwarfs enter... ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Don Marti "I've never sent or received a GIF in my life." dmarti@zgp.org -- Bruce Schneier, Secrets and Lies, p. 246. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ (Free the Web: http://burnallgifs.org/) From jdub at aphid.net Sat Dec 30 21:48:47 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. Message-ID: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> This is why I'm _Scared of America_. http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/finalmeals.htm See #235 and #157 especially. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "In addition to these ample facilities, there exists a powerful configuration tool called gcc." - Elliot Hughes, author of lwm From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 31 16:55:57 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux Message-ID: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 10312 freenet 0 0 11452 11M 300 S 0 0.0 8.9 0:04 Kaffe 28189 stephane 0 0 7688 7688 1036 S 0 0.0 5.9 0:02 mutt 7193 sneakums 0 0 6164 5648 1424 S 0 0.0 4.4 0:05 emacs 16032 woot 0 0 5184 4948 928 S 0 0.0 3.8 0:13 emacs Fuck EMACS, man. Freenet is fuqn HUGE. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 31 16:58:49 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] We Put the FREE in FREMONT In-Reply-To: <87g0j5ut1s.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 08:13:35PM -0800 References: <87g0j5ut1s.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20001231165849.I14879@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > Hey, I'm heading out to M. Drew Streib's party RIGHT NOW! OK, well, > after a tactical stop at Taqueria Cancun. Typical Evan: he didn't show. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 31 17:00:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net>; from jdub@aphid.net on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 04:48:47PM +1100 References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> Message-ID: <20001231170018.J14879@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > This is why I'm _Scared of America_. Remember: David Bowie is more afraid of you than you are of him. DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sun Dec 31 17:04:15 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:00:18 -0800" References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> <20001231170018.J14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <87bstsrskw.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> Remember: David Bowie is more afraid of you than you MM> are of him. DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT. David Bowie can smell fear. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nick at zork.net Sun Dec 31 17:05:19 2000 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [andrew@sulli.org: [rescuemuni-announce] Ride Muni Free tonight!] Message-ID: <20001231170519.K14879@zork.net> Yeah, baby. ----- Forwarded message from Andrew Sullivan <andrew@sulli.org> ----- Dear Rescue Muni Member: You probably already know this - but New Year's Eve is a great time to take advantage of SF's transit-first policy, with FREE Muni service after 8 pm. Read all about it at Muni's web site: http://www.sfmuni.com/routes/tempindx.htm And Happy New Year from your Steering Committee! Cheers, Andrew Sullivan Chair, RM You have received this email because you are a member of (or a subscriber to) Rescue Muni, a transit riders' association for San Francisco. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: rescuemuni-announce-unsubscribe@egroups.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sun Dec 31 17:16:42 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: Nick Moffitt's message of "Sun, 31 Dec 2000 16:55:57 -0800" References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes: NM> Fuck EMACS, man. Freenet is fuqn HUGE. The Java VM is the bloat factor there. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I can't figure out if I'm shy, or just lazy." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sun Dec 31 17:25:48 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] If This is Going to be THAT Kind of Party... Message-ID: <87y9wwqd0j.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Hey, so, I used to look this kind of stuff up in the fine site, Beastie Boys Annotated, which had incredible notes on ALL the samples and ALL the references in practically ALL the Beastie Boys songs. Damn, I looked really smart, man. But Beastie Boys Annotated is DOWN DOWN DOWN. I dunno if the lawyers at Grand Royal put the shithammer on them, or what, but they're dead! It's a travesty. I dunno what to say now. Maybe it's like the Tootsie Pop problem -- the world will never know. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 31 17:29:12 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org>; from sneakums@sto-kerrig.org on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 01:16:42AM +0000 References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net> begin Paul J Collins quotation: > NM> Fuck EMACS, man. Freenet is fuqn HUGE. > > The Java VM is the bloat factor there. Yeah, and it's LISP for EMACS and all the libs for GNOME apps. So what? Javur was a design decision like any other: static arrays, linked lists, mmap, dancing baloney, inline pixmaps, etc. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From jdub at aphid.net Sun Dec 31 17:39:38 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 05:29:12PM -0800 References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010101123938.I31315@aphid.net> <quote who="Monkey Master"> > Yeah, and it's LISP for EMACS and all the libs for GNOME apps. > So what? aaronl's linked list is smaller than your linked list. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- I get my kicks above the .sigline, sunshine. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 31 17:42:46 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: <20010101123938.I31315@aphid.net>; from jdub@aphid.net on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 12:39:38PM +1100 References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net> <20010101123938.I31315@aphid.net> Message-ID: <20001231174246.N14879@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > aaronl's linked list is smaller than your linked list. He got rid of all the bloat caused by those damn pointers. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From jdub at aphid.net Sun Dec 31 18:03:19 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: <20001231174246.N14879@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 05:42:46PM -0800 References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net> <20010101123938.I31315@aphid.net> <20001231174246.N14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <20010101130319.J31315@aphid.net> <quote who="Monkey Master"> > He got rid of all the bloat caused by those damn pointers. The outrage. Wasting good memory on directions to other good memory. Just you wait - next he'll remove the line numbers from his code. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- It's depressing to see such useful code wasted on such a useless license. From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sun Dec 31 18:34:11 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: Monkey Master's message of "Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:29:12 -0800" References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net> Message-ID: <87snn4ova4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "MM" == Monkey Master <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes: MM> Javur was a design decision like any other: static arrays, MM> linked lists, mmap, dancing baloney, inline pixmaps, etc. All of those are implementation decisions. Java has nothing to do with the design of FreeNet. -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I can't figure out if I'm shy, or just lazy." From dhd at eradicator.org Sun Dec 31 18:39:32 2000 From: dhd at eradicator.org (David Huggins-Daines) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Freenet sux In-Reply-To: Paul J Collins's message of "01 Jan 2001 02:34:11 +0000" References: <20001231165557.H14879@zork.net> <8766k0qdfp.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> <20001231172912.L14879@zork.net> <87snn4ova4.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> Message-ID: <8766k0c7x7.fsf@monolith.cepstral.com> Paul J Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> writes: > -- > "I can't figure out if I'm shy, or just lazy." I vote for lazy. -- David Huggins-Daines - dhd@eradicator.org From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sun Dec 31 19:06:12 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> Message-ID: <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 16:48:47 +1100, Jeff Waugh opined: > http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/finalmeals.htm No booze or ciggies? That's cruel and unusual. Can you tell us what you were doing when you happened on that page? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From jdub at aphid.net Sun Dec 31 19:21:39 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 10:06:12PM -0500 References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20010101142139.L31315@aphid.net> <quote who="Bob Bernstein"> > Can you tell us what you were doing when you happened on that page? Wondering how Mr. Bad's Mum is doing. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- It's not just a song! It's a document of my life! From sneakums at sto-kerrig.org Sun Dec 31 19:21:55 2000 From: sneakums at sto-kerrig.org (Paul J Collins) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "31 Dec 2000 22:06:12 EST" References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <874rzkot2k.fsf@sto-kerrig.org> >>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <bob@ruptured-duck.com> writes: BB> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 16:48:47 +1100, Jeff Waugh opined: >> http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/finalmeals.htm BB> Can you tell us what you were doing when you happened on that BB> page? You've heard the phrase, ``Man, I'd KILL for a good Texan steak!''? -- Paul Collins <sneakums@sto-kerrig.org> - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I can't figure out if I'm shy, or just lazy." From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sun Dec 31 19:38:14 2000 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr.Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: Jeff Waugh's message of "Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:21:39 +1100" References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org> <20010101142139.L31315@aphid.net> Message-ID: <87u27kosbd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@aphid.net> writes: >> Can you tell us what you were doing when you happened on that >> page? JW> Wondering how Mr. Bad's Mum is doing. Get off my list. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> \ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad* | (X \x) ( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it. \ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bob at ruptured-duck.com Sun Dec 31 20:53:08 2000 From: bob at ruptured-duck.com (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <87u27kosbd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net><200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org><20010101142139.L31315@aphid.net> <87u27kosbd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <200101010453.f014rNh20079@robert.ruptured-duck.org> On 31 Dec 2000 19:38:14 -0800, Mr.Bad opined: > Get off my list. I'm confused. Who is throwing who off of who's list? -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Dec 31 20:56:18 2000 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <200101010453.f014rNh20079@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 11:53:08PM -0500 References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net><200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org><20010101142139.L31315@aphid.net> <87u27kosbd.fsf@roy.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <200101010453.f014rNh20079@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20001231205618.O14879@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > On 31 Dec 2000 19:38:14 -0800, Mr.Bad opined: > > Get off my list. > > I'm confused. Who is throwing who off of who's list? "throwing whom" -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From jdub at aphid.net Sun Dec 31 21:16:02 2000 From: jdub at aphid.net (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:53 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 10:06:12PM -0500 References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20010101161602.M31315@aphid.net> <quote who="Bob Bernstein"> > > http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/finalmeals.htm > > No booze or ciggies? That's cruel and unusual. No bubblegum either. Harsh. Very harsh. - Jeff -- jdub@aphid.net --------------------------------- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "In addition to these ample facilities, there exists a powerful configuration tool called gcc." - Elliot Hughes, author of lwm From ajensen at direct.ca Sun Dec 31 00:33:54 2000 From: ajensen at direct.ca (Arne Jensen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:54 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] evil "Snowhite" joke spam In-Reply-To: <20001230211334.D13608@zgp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001231003230.24998A-100000@localhost> Which Beasties album was that? I've bought almost all of them, and couldn't find it. Been wanting to find that snippet again for ages. Arne On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Don Marti wrote: > And there's the joke that ends "If this is going to be that kind of > party, I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes." (The Beastie > Boys sampled someone telling it.) What's the beginning? From stu at brainfood.com Sun Dec 31 21:12:36 2000 From: stu at brainfood.com (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:55 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Dem spuds aren't done without the dick, Don. In-Reply-To: <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org>; from bob@ruptured-duck.com on Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 10:06:12PM -0500 References: <20001231164847.G31315@aphid.net> <200101010306.f0136Xh17636@robert.ruptured-duck.org> Message-ID: <20010101001236.A20108@stu.ddts.net> On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 10:06:12PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > No booze or ciggies? That's cruel and unusual. or bubble gum! fucking republicRATS.... -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com