[CrackMonkey] OS/X Beta

Deirdre Saoirse deirdre at deirdre.net
Sun Sep 17 21:30:22 PDT 2000


On 17 Sep 2000, Paul J Collins wrote:

> >>>>> "Deirdre" == Deirdre Saoirse <deirdre at deirdre.net> writes:
> 
>     Deirdre> I don't believe MacOS/X will ship with a compiler, but
>     Deirdre> MOSXS does (gcc).  It also ships with its gcc extensions
>     Deirdre> to allow building GUIs via Interface Builder, which is a
>     Deirdre> *very very* cool piece of software and worth implementing
>     Deirdre> for GNUstep.
> 
> As far as I know, GNUstep has this, and more. 

I know they're working on it.

> The definitely have the code that loads the .nib files, and their own
> format for interfaces called gmodel (maybe they convert to gmodel and
> load those; I'm not sure).  Progress meters here:
> 
> http://www.gnustep.org/information/progress.html

Yes, they have the back end, but what I was meaning was the FRONT end of
Interface Builder. While I haven't been reading many of the progress
reports, I do follow GNUstep from time to time. Still, they are much
further than the last time I looked.

> They are also working on implemeting the Apple extensions to OpenStep.
> One NeXT-specific thing they don't support is the mixing of C++ and
> Objective C in the same translation unit.  I am unsure of the utility
> of this feature.

I think it'd be cool -- Objective C tends to generate very large jump
tables as it is late bound and the possibilities are not as set as they
are in C++. So I can see that one might prefer a blend of the approaches.

> Absolutely; free software is not a business model.  There are business
> models based upon the sale of free software.  Indeed, Stallman's
> position is that you can charge as much as people will pay:
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
> 
> And people call this man a communist.  Sheesh.

And I am willing to pay to support such a business model. Downloading "for
free" ignores the fact that, really, TAANSTAFL. Someone has to pay for
operating and maintaining the site.

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"More damage has been caused by innocent program crashes than by 
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