begin kris at firstworld.net quotation: > Yes, well that is the basic difference between Pigdog and Crackmonkey. > See, Crackmonkey is geeks that drink. Pigdog is drunks that geek. I'll geek to that! (No, wait....) -- Cheers, Right to keep and bear Rick Moen Haiku shall not be abridged rick at linuxmafia.com Or denied. So there.