[CrackMonkey] Vorbis to replace MP3 on Windows XP!

[Monkey Master]

begin  Jack Moffitt quotation:
> > 	1: both mp3 and vorbis are lossy, so doing a conversion from
> > 	one to another is not as simple as the gif2png stuff.
> 
> For practical purposes it looks like people don't care.  Our efforts
> to tell people that this is not very desireable backfired, and they
> did it anyway, without our help.  We should encourage this I guess.

	Weird.  Okay.  More power to 'em.

> > 	2: the gif to png conversion was largely taken on by system
> > 	administrators and web monkeys.  The MP3 to vorbis transition
> > 	will have to convince thousands upon thousands of skr1pt
> > 	k1ddi3z and napsteroids.
> 
> This is the problem.  Most of these people use napster and such.
> Most of those systems still don't allow trading of anything but mp3.
> People should write to jasta of gnapster fame, and request vorbis
> support asap, as well as the OpenNap guys.

	Once search queries start turning up ogg files, that's when
the meme will really begin to spread.

	The big message from burnallgifs was "if you want to use GIFs
on your web site, you need a lawyer, and that's bad".  If we want a
similar message here, we want it to be that to put mp3s up on your
site you need a lawyer.  Can this message be backed up in the same way
the GIF one was?  What has fraunhoffer been saying?  Do we need to
just say "this is what Unisys used to say, and then they changed their
mind!"?

> > 	3: the software to view png was usually already in peoples'
> > 	browsers.  With vorbis, people largely have to download
> > 	plug-ins and special software.
> 
> Not entirely true.  It's in sonique already.  It's in the mac
> players already.  It's in several of the jukebox programs already
> (although, not musicmatch).  You need a plugin for winamp.  Xmms has
> it built in as of 1.2.4.  KDE has it built into their multimedia
> stuff.
> 
> It mostly 'just works' right now.

	But what about the winamp folks, and their little toys?  We
have to convince proprietary software users as well.

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