[free-sklyarov] The Anti-DMCA Index -- Libraries, Ebooks and the DMCA

[Jon O .]

On 13-Aug-2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 11:13:57AM -0700, Jon O . (jono at microshaft.org) wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 13-Aug-2001, Kurt Foss wrote:
> > > At 10:23 AM -0700 8/13/01, Jon O . wrote:
> > > >I think you are right about this.
> > > 
> > > Just to confirm -- he is indeed correct. While the term "Read Aloud"
> > > is one of the eBook permissions that a publisher can choose, the
> > > meaning is not what it seems. There's also a technological component
> > > involved as to whether a user can make use of "Read Aloud" even when
> > > permission is enabled.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, and it seems very interesting that the Gutenberg Project who
> > converted the work allows for such restrictions to be placed on their
> > works. I wonder if a modification to the Gutenberg "Terms of Use" or
> > something would help, stating that use of this text is permitted so
> > long as other restrictions are not applied...?
> 
> As (most) Gutenberg Project works are public domain, no restrictions may
> be placed on them, including the restriction not to place restrictions
> (technical or legal) on distributions of the same (or derived) works.
> 
> GP could apply terms as you suggest to the work as a whole including the
> GP material added to the work -- this creates a new (derived) work, a
> component of which GP has copyright to.
> 
> Public domain is just that:  no one owns the work, no one can specify
> rights of others.

I totally agree, but this screen shots proves otherwise:
http://www.pigdogs.org/art/adobe.html

It's also the source referenced in the Index.

So these corpotations seem to think if you take a GP book, wrap it in eB00k format, 
suddenly you have all kinds of rights and restrictions you can place on the book.

Look at the verbage in the link above:

VolumeOne (Ironic?) is grateful to PG for its contribution to this work.
VolumeOne holds harmless and indemnifies PG of any liability arising from
the use of their text in this printed embodiment...

Now, that's like me saying, "thanks for to use of this freeway. I won't sue
those who built it if I get in a wreck."

How can they even attempt to do such a thing?





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