[free-sklyarov] Adobe Will Talk! July 23 Sklyarov Protest on Hold

[Jon O .]

How about you all show up and are silent during the talks? Even 
just sitting down. Wait for the talks to conclude and find out 
what to do next? 

Kind of like silent strength...

Adobe obviously want to save face. That is why they said
call off the dogs and we will talk. Well, compromise.
Bring the dogs, just keep them quite until you need 
them, if you do...

It seems like the other protests are directed at government 
offices. That doesn't effect Adobe so couldn't those protests
continue?





On 20-Jul-2001, Josh Richards wrote:
> * Will Doherty <wild at eff.org> [20010720 13:21]:
> > Adobe only agreed to meet with us if we would put
> > the Monday, July 23 protest on hold.
> > 
> > We would like to believe that Adobe will be
> > negotiating in earnest and it is not EFF's
> > style to engage in punitive protests when
> > there is hope of a negotiated solution.
> > 
> > If some folks go ahead and protest and antagonize
> > Adobe, that may escalate the situation,
> > preclude Adobe withdrawing their complaint,
> > and keep Dmitry in jail.
> 
> I respectfully completely disagree with you.  If Adobe is agreeing to talks
> in good faith because they've gotten the message than a little extra push 
> on Monday shouldn't hurt the negotiations at all.  'sides, like I said
> previously, even with Adobe on our side Sklyarov is still in jail and we've
> still got the DMCA.  I really don't see what has changed.  We've *not* met
> our objective, only made another (hopeful) step in the right direction.  
> 
> > I think should treat this as a partial victory...
> > we have succeeded in getting to the table in
> > a big way with Adobe! Let's use that leverage
> > to get some concrete action. And if they don't
> > budge, we can still protest. Those who offered
> > the favors once hopefully did so because we
> > have an important cause here, and will likely
> > do so again.
> 
> In an ideal world I'd agree.  Not everyone is so committed as many of the
> people on this list or whom are within the EFF.  While I'd like to think
> I'd show up even things were re-scheduled, I'd have a hard time stating
> that it wouldn't effect other people's commitment levels.
> 
> Regardless I'm not arguing against re-scheduling/holding off if there was a
> good reason -- I'm arguing that there isn't as good of a reason to do so as
> you seem to believe.
> 
> -jr
> 
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