[free-sklyarov] street permits

Chad Horton kupek at ntplx.net
Sat Jul 21 10:27:44 PDT 2001


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Eakins" <admin at seattle-chat.com>
To: <free-sklyarov at zork.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: [free-sklyarov] street permits


> Yes there are laws like this in different city's, however the Constitution
> says different, it says we have the RIGHT to peaceably assemble, it
doesn't
> say we have to have a permit first.
>
Actually, I would say this is similar to firearms. Yes, we have the right to
bear arms, but the constitution doesn't say anything about the necessary
permits. And having unlicenced firearms is definitely illegal. Better to
keep things legal and save ourselves the trouble of a WTO-style mess.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: free-sklyarov-admin at zork.net
> [mailto:free-sklyarov-admin at zork.net]On Behalf Of Declan McCullagh
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 9:34 AM
> To: phr-2001 at nightsong.com
> Cc: free-sklyarov at zork.net
> Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] street permits
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 08:46:54PM -0000, phr-2001 at nightsong.com wrote:
> > Some people have been asking about whether they need street permits to
> > protest.  IANAL, but from other protest experiences, and basic knowledge
> > of how the first amendment works, I believe the answer is:
> >
> > You do NOT need a street permit to protest in the US.  Protesting
> > political issues on the sidewalk is protected free speech of the
> > highest order and you have the absolute right to do it with nobody's
> > permission, as long as you stay off the street, you don't use
> > amplified sound, you keep moving (if you stay in one spot, that's
> > loitering--that's the reason picketers walk back and forth), and you
> > don't block pedestrian traffic.
>
> My fuzzy recollection of DC law says that the above is incorrect, or
> at least incomplete. Laws vary by city, and your general advice is not
> specific enough and could get people in trouble if they blindly follow it.
>
> For instance, one article I wrote quoted Capitol Police as saying
> 20 people or more require a permit:
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42676,00.html
>
> I once got a permit from U.S. Park Police for a 50-person gathering
> for a presidential campaign I worked on in 1992.
>
> -Declan


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