[free-sklyarov] Time of Adobe/EFF meeting?

[Will Doherty]

Hey Paul,

My take on our conversation was that it consisted of
a lot more than just "Trust me".

If anyone else would like to chat, I am available,
as many of you already know since I'm pretty sure
I've spoken and/or emailed with dozens of you at
this point.

Free Dmitry and Reform the DMCA,

Will

Will Doherty
Online Activist / Media Relations
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)
Web http://www.eff.org

Electronic Frontier Foundation - Protecting rights in the digital age
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At 04:56 PM 7/22/2001 -0600, Paul Gowder wrote:

>>It could easily be 1, whether planned by the EFF or no.  No very subtle
>>tactic, just the standard, almost necessary for structural reasons, tactic
>>of:
>>
>>The more middle of the road reformer/revolutionaries are inside negotating
>>with the oppressors while outside the crazies can barely be held in check.
>>
>>oo--JS.
>
>
>The problem with good cop/bad cop is that the bad cop has to be involved 
>in the planning too.  Otherwise (s)he might listen.  There will be a lot 
>less crazies running about outside, now that the EFF has publicly put its 
>credibility behind the idea of "negotiating" with Adobe.
>
>I don't think the EFF realizes what it takes to get an action going.  The 
>fact that I, for example, called a friend in Seattle (and a veteran of the 
>WTO wars) and asked him to try and turn out people for Seattle, would be 
>damaging to _me_ and my friend if Seattle had agreed to delay like 
>Portland did.
>
>I did call Will, and heard only "trust me."  Well, sorry, but I don't -- 
>not without a convincing explanation.
>
>         -Paul
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