[free-sklyarov] courses of action

Mon Sep 10 20:11:59 PDT 2001

I hear you loud and clear BUT....what did people do in 1776? They went home,
got their guns and "bought" their freedom. We might have to go some other
country to muster our forces tho.....let me know where you go and perhaps,
we can at least build a community of like minded "expatriates".

Later,

Mary E. Dixon

P.S. I almost feel that someone will be knocking on my door to haul me off
after saying what I just said. ....:-(
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Burger" <krburger at burger-family.org>
To: <free-sklyarov at zork.net>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] courses of action

> I dunno, but if this one gets passed, I'm leaving the US for another
> country.  Probably one of the Scandanavian countries.  I'll come back when
> the people are getting ready to start a civil war and join in that
movement,
> but in the mean time I'm not going to live under that kind of tyranny.
Once
> that step is taken there is NO limit to what the government can or can't
do
> and any and all of our freedoms will likely be gone within 10-15 years of
> that.  I will not live in a country with such oppressive laws.  Laws which
> prohibit innovation by individuals and small businesses.  I find it rather
> scary that America is supposed to be the beacon of freedom in the world
yet
> we have the second most restrictive laws regarding Internet use in the
world
> for first and second world countries.  The first of course is China.  I
will
> not live in a country controlled by businesses.  The constitution was NOT
> written for that.  It was meant to create a  government of the people for
> the people and by the people.  What it is creating now is an aristocracy
and
> I will NOT stand for it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tack" <tack at gaffle.com>
> To: <free-sklyarov at zork.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:12 PM
> Subject: [free-sklyarov] courses of action
>
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I was thinking that convincing our congresspersons through letters,
> > protests and petitions may fall on deaf ears.  After all, DMCA wasn't
> > passed in our best interests, who's to say that they care at all.
> >
> > So I was thinking of some other forms of action and some interesting
> > applications of the ones we've been using.  I would like to put them out
> > there for discussion, should others think they're good ideas.  More in
the
> > food for thought category.
> >
> > 1.  If the man will not listen to us, we should become the man.  Many
> > congresspersons run for reelection unopposed in their districts.  They
> > pretty much get reelected by default.  If you happen to be so inclined
and
> > are in a position to run for US Congress, I reccomend doing so.  I'm
sure
> > we can all help each other out.  Seeing the amount of effort put into
the
> > Free Dmitry movement, we may have the resources for a fair shot.  At
least
> > it will get the word out.  Imagine this issue going on every ballot in
> > your district.  Perhaps, if not in his district, we could ask for advice
> > from Rep. Boucher?
> >
> > 2.  Lets target the persons in question (Hatch, Feinstein, Hollings) and
> > start a fundraiser...maybe a-la linuxfund credit cards to act as a
> > war-chest to fund opposing candidates who are more sympathetic to civil
> > liberties.  Maybe "Fair Use Fund" cards.  At the very least, campaign
ads
> > are a great way to get our message accross, even if not in support for a
> > candidate but to point out flaws of another.
> >
> > 3.  A lot of us are content creators/copyright holders.  If a judge, law
> > enforcement person or lawyer uses our content in the discharge of their
> > duties, and such use violates DMCA/SSSCA, we should be filing criminal
> > and/or civil complaints where applicable.  I think that should get the
> > point across rather nicely...we should especially be doing this to
> > members of the senate and congress.  We can use their law against them.
> >
> > 4.  A letter writing campaign urging President Bush to veto the SSSCA
> > should it come to him for approval, before the bill even hits the senate
> > floor.  This should also emphasize the impact it will have on the tech
> > sector, and how much extra it would take out of the budget.  More cost
is
> > NOT something he wants right now.
> >
> > 5.  Protests at Disney stores to counter SSSCA.  "Mommy, why are those
> > people shouting"?  I think it's a grave enough law to mandate just up
and
> > having a sit in, sans permits if that's the only way, in front of the
> > entry to the store.  Most peole don't even know who Adobe is or even
care,
> > but they sure know what Disney is, and care.  This would be a prime
venue
> > to distribute Stallman's "Right to read".
> >
> > In any case, I'm putting these up as food for thought.  Broad spectrum
> > petitions, letter writing and protests are definitely a good idea.  My
> > idea is to supplement those initiatives with direct political opposition
> > to congresspersons who attempt this nature of law by opposing them in
> > election with both political and media campaigns coupled with giving
> > Disney the treatment we gave Adobe.  Both at their stores, and large
scale
> > protests at their parks (IE...sit in at their gates to DOS the park.
> > That ought to hit them squarely in the pocketbook).
> >
> > I don't know about everybodies ability or inclination to take part in
> > these actions, but I thought I'd pit them out in the open for discussion
> > to see if we can add a bit of bite to our bark.
> >
> > tack
> >
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