[CrackMonkey] Re: A cool problem
Seth David Schoen
schoen at loyalty.org
Sun Feb 13 20:16:05 PST 2000
Monkey Master writes:
> begin AOLMonkey quotation:
> > It kind of depends on how, exactly, the adversaries are going to
> > behave. Otherwise you could say loudly, "We'll just all guess RED!
> > That way half of our guesses are guaranteed to be right." Since the
> > adversary has sworn to kill the maximum number of people, they'll
> > put everyone in blue hats.
>
> I figured that I'd do this, originally.
>
> We all agree to answer red. The first person, upon seeing
> that all the hats are blue will answer "BLUE!" and hope that everybody
> gets the hint all the way down the line. Most people will see many
> blue hats and probably figure it out.
Remember that the adversary can hear this conversation. :-)
Actually, that gets into a sort of Newcomb's Paradox question. The
adversary has heard what is purportedly a complete description of a
strategy and intends to pre-arrange things so as to defeat that
strategy...
As I pointed out in mail to David, it wasn't specified whether the adversary,
in trying to maximize the number of people killed, is maximizing
- the minimum number of people guaranteed to be killed,
- the maximum number of people who _might_ be killed in some situation, or
- the expected number of people killed
The distinction only matters if there is some unpredictable or chance
element which isn't part of the communicated strategy.
Even with that distinction, I don't believe that there is any way of using
chance or intuitiion to improve a strategy beyond what can be communicated.
It might be that, by saying that, I have just taken a position on the
Church-Turing Thesis or the resolution of Newcomb's Paradox, but I was
mainly just trying to say that I don't think you can cheat the adversary by
leaving some part of your behavior unspecified, or using your intution to
deviate from what you said you would do.
--
Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org> | And do not say, I will study when I
Temp. http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | have leisure; for perhaps you will
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