[free-sklyarov] Slogan/Propaganda

Goran Thyni goran at kirra.net
Fri Jul 20 07:49:04 PDT 2001


I wrote a messsage in this web form:
http://www.adobe.se/misc/annat.html
No answer yet (2 days).

I think people especially Adobe customers should put 
pressure on the local Adobe offices. Search for
contacts adresses/form on your local site:
http://www.adobe.<country code>/

regards,
--
Göran Thyni
Kiruna, Sweden

On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 04:38:53PM +0200, Kågedal Simon wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Nice to see other Swedes on the list.  
> 
> (I was actually myself going to write a similar message, I think 
> the use of the "hammer and sickle" is quite distasteful for many
> reasons.  Except for the ones you mention, I would like to point
> out that if the idea is to associate to the Stalin regime,
> remember that Stalin killed millions of people.  This is clearly
> out of proportion with what Adobe has done.  Similar argument as
> the one RMS makes about the word "piracy":
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html )
> 
> But back to the case.
> 
> What do you think could be done for Sklyarov from a Swedish point 
> of view?  (or what do people outside US do in general?)
> 
> I was going to write Adobe's Swedish office and ask them to ask
> their bosses to drop the charges.  I couldn't find an appropriate
> address to write to on the www.adobe.se pages though, only some PR
> guy, maybe that will do?
> 
> I did notify the Swedish section of Amnesty International on their
> web page.
> 
> I wish everybody the best of luck in protests and I really hope
> Dmitry Sklyarov is set free really soon.  This is horrible.
> 
> Simon.
> 
> -----Original message-----
> Från: Goran Thyni [mailto:goran at kirra.net]
> Skickat: den 20 juli 2001 15:25
> Till: free-sklyarov at zork.net
> Kopia: Victor Piterbarg
> Ämne: Re: [free-sklyarov] Slogan/Propaganda
> 
> 
> But,
> 
> outside USA the symbol for many people represent not stalinist Sovjet Union,
> but the struggle against oppression and feudalism.
> The "Hammer and Sickle" represent the struggle of workers and farmers.
> 
> Since in this case we fight misconduct of big business the symbol 
> creates confusion, especially since the victim is Russian.
> 
> Many people support this cause, use of this symbol is hinting a
> wider polical agenda which will alienate supporters.
> 
> best regards,
> --
> Göran Thyni
> Sweden
> 
> 
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