[free-sklyarov] Adobe Will Talk! July 23 Sklyarov Protest on Hold

[Victor Piterbarg]

Hello,

I've read all the replies to this, and I have to say that the tone seems
pretty uniform. The general consensus is that WE STILL NEED TO PROTEST.
There are no concrete promises from Adobe, all their offer could accomplish
is kill our protest, that's unacceptable. I think EFF is a tremendous
organization, and it's support is essential in order for out action to be
successful. I hope that you will reconsider calling off the protest, and
take off this "Hold."

-Victor

P.S. I will still be there.

-----Original Message-----
From: free-sklyarov-admin at zork.net
[mailto:free-sklyarov-admin at zork.net]On Behalf Of Will Doherty
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:16 PM
To: Klepht; wild at eff.org
Cc: free-sklyarov at zork.net
Subject: Re: [free-sklyarov] Adobe Will Talk! July 23 Sklyarov Protest
on Hold


Adobe only agreed to meet with us if we would put
the Monday, July 23 protest on hold.

We would like to believe that Adobe will be
negotiating in earnest and it is not EFF's
style to engage in punitive protests when
there is hope of a negotiated solution.

If some folks go ahead and protest and antagonize
Adobe, that may escalate the situation,
preclude Adobe withdrawing their complaint,
and keep Dmitry in jail.

I think should treat this as a partial victory...
we have succeeded in getting to the table in
a big way with Adobe! Let's use that leverage
to get some concrete action. And if they don't
budge, we can still protest. Those who offered
the favors once hopefully did so because we
have an important cause here, and will likely
do so again.

I am glad to hear everyone's comments about
this and look forward to working together to
get Dmitry out of jail and end further unfair
DMCA prosecutions.

Free Dmitry,

Will Doherty
Online Activist / Media Relations
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)
Web http://www.eff.org

Electronic Frontier Foundation - Protecting rights in the digital age
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At 01:00 PM 7/20/2001 -0700, Klepht wrote:
> >>>>> "WD" == Will Doherty <wild at eff.org> writes:
>
>     WD> Congratulations folks!  The pressure we all have put on Adobe
>     WD> has resulted in an agreement to meet with representatives from
>     WD> the Electronic Frontier Foundation on this Monday morning,
>     WD> July 23.
>
>     WD> For that reason, EFF has decided to:
>
>     WD> PUT THE JULY 23 PROTEST ON HOLD
>
>Will,
>
>We are NOT going to be able to get this kind of momentum behind us
>again if we pull the plug now. It's just NOT going to happen.
>
>So PLEASE be VERY confident that there will be CONCRETE
>results.
>
>Frankly, this is the best of all worlds for Adobe: they get a couple
>of eggheads to come into the office, they blow smoke up your asses for
>a couple of hours, and then show you the door.
>
>In other words, you're neutralized. Everyone who's pulled in favors to
>get this event publicized will be unable to make that happen again. I
>know I will.
>
>It seems like a REALLY BAD idea to me, so I hope you have a better
>feeling about the meeting than I do. If I were you, I'd wait until
>AFTER Monday to meet with Adobe. But that's just me.
>
>~Klepht
>
>--
>klepht at eleutheria.org
>http://www.eleutheria.org/



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