[free-sklyarov] Adobe Hackers: We're Immune

[Christopher R. Maden]

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At 23:52 4-03-2002, Vladimir Katalov wrote:
>First, "US financial instutution" (as I understand, you mean the
>billing service company that accepts credit card payments) is not much
>different from any bank. If, for example, I'll make wire transfer from
>my bank account in Russia to some account in Mexico, and by bank
>doesn't have a corresponding account in that mexican bank, the money
>will pass through at least one US bank (in 99% cases). It is not
>possible to transfer money directly from one person (or company) to
>another, without some "man in the middle". That US company worked just
>as a "postman".

There is a difference, I think.  In your example, you initiated a transfer 
from Russia to Mexico - in other words, you voluntarily caused a 
transaction in each nation.  If it happened to go through the US, it wasn't 
because you asked it to.  But in this case, you asked a US credit card 
company to accept US credit cards and transfer the funds to you.  You 
voluntarily requested that a transaction take place in the US.

>Second, they didn't care about delivery at all. Delivery (electronic
>one, i.e. the registration code -- read the official court documents)
>has been done solely by ElcomSoft, directly to the customer (throught
>the Internet, of course -- by email).

If you cared about US law (not that you should, but if you did) you could 
have asked your customers to warrant that they were not in the US before 
delivering the key.  This is similar to what downloaders of encryption 
products used to have to do.  They can lie, of course, but then the onus is 
on them, not you.

BTW, does your lawyer know you're posting here?  I'm glad you're talking 
freely about this, but if I were your lawyer I think I'd be pitching a fit 
right about now.

~crism
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